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    Holly Suzanne Courtier (38) missing from Zion National Park, UT since 10/6/2020

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    I read about this and honestly don't think she's coming back. Because of the wildfires, the wildlife have retreated to other areas and this is the time when Mountain Lions have cubs in tow. Anyone going out to these trails alone either is really dumb or doesn't intend on returning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I read about this and honestly don't think she's coming back. Because of the wildfires, the wildlife have retreated to other areas and this is the time when Mountain Lions have cubs in tow. Anyone going out to these trails alone either is really dumb or doesn't intend on returning.
    Did you see the video that came out this week of the dude who was stalked/chased by a mountain lion for SIX MINUTES? It's terrifying.


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    Great news to hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Seems to be lots of doubt and suspicion out there in comments that she was ever really missing in the first place.
    What do you mean?

    I find it weird she survived for 12 days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    What do you mean?

    I find it weird she survived for 12 days.
    Eh, not really. If the weather was decent and there was water available. She's probably hungry and maybe dehydrated, but people can survive that long without food. I just find it strange that she went out there by herself. I know people who do it, but I can't even imagine going hiking or whatever, alone. Guess it was drilled into me when I was a Girl Scout... you don't head off into the wilds alone. If fact even 2-3 people is a bad idea. You need at least four. That way, when you fall and break your leg, one person can stay with you and 2 go to get help. Of course, this was before cell phones, so you really were counting on your companions.

    But anyway, yeah, I have to wonder if she wasn't meaning to just disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    What do you mean?

    I find it weird she survived for 12 days.
    Since she lost her job shes been traveling/camping out. I thought maybe she had supplies with her and she was camping out in her van until I read that she will need medical care.

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    Hm. I am going with this is legit, since I am sure the hospital would be able to confirm she was dehydrated. Unless that was done on purpose, but I don't see why someone would do that to themselves. I have seen some pretty crazy people, though


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    I'm so confused...what was she drinking the whole time she was missing? You can only go 3 days without drinking water.

    Was she hospitalized or not? I guess she could be in a mental facility.

    How could she have walked out of the woods on her own if she was super weak from not eating for 2 weeks?

    Why would her family lie about the head injury?

    So many questions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    I'm so confused...what was she drinking the whole time she was missing? You can only go 3 days without drinking water.

    Was she hospitalized or not? I guess she could be in a mental facility.

    How could she have walked out of the woods on her own if she was super weak from not eating for 2 weeks?

    Why would her family lie about the head injury?

    So many questions...
    I don't think she was there, not the whole time, at least. I think her family is trying to come up with stories because they are embarrassed..?


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    This reminds me of the runaway bride story. I think the bride pretended to be kidnapped, but it turned out that she didn't want to get married.
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    I don't buy her story and it's super shitty of her to use up resources for a publicity stunt.
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    I found the case I was talking about.
    On cell.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/people....ow/%3famp=true
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    Okay, for one I find it highly unlikely that she would survive that long without water. People will experience organ failure within three days without it and we're supposed to believe she went almost two weeks? For two, it still doesn't explain people spotting her and not helping. Especially with the state she would have obviously been in after that long without food and water.

    Not buying it. They're making excuses for her because people are upset that resources were wasted on her. She was in areas where people normally venture and the search crews couldn't find her? I'd be willing to accept that she had mental issues going on and hid on purpose with supplies, but lying just makes this look intentional for other reasons.
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    Yeah. at first she claimed she drank the water. Once investigators said that wasn't possible, she changed it to now she didn't. Um, suuuuuure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Yeah. at first she claimed she drank the water. Once investigators said that wasn't possible, she changed it to now she didn't. Um, suuuuuure.
    I was wondering if anyone else caught that. Plus, I don't think she would have lived if she just wet her mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I was wondering if anyone else caught that. Plus, I don't think she would have lived if she just wet her mouth.
    Definitely not and she would have still gotten sick. TWELVE days without water. We'll say even 8 days assuming she rationed out what she had. 3 to 4 days TOPS before complete organ shutdown and death. We're supposed to believe she went twice that time and was still able to not only walk out, but have authorities let her family take her.

    NOPE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Definitely not and she would have still gotten sick. TWELVE days without water. We'll say even 8 days assuming she rationed out what she had. 3 to 4 days TOPS before complete organ shutdown and death. We're supposed to believe she went twice that time and was still able to not only walk out, but have authorities let her family take her.

    NOPE
    Yeah. If she had a supply of water she could survive this OK. Without water, even saying she caught some rain water or had snow to melt? She'd be in bad shape. Absent rain or snow? She's not telling the truth.
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    This story reminds me of that Sherri Papini case. Except this chick didn't say she was kidnapped.

    I google the Papini case and apparently the case is still "open". What a joke.


    Now they are saying she didn't eat for a couple of days before she went missing for religious reasons? She would be dead.

    I wonder where she really was this whole time and why she went back to the park?

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    She apparently brought a hammock but no food or water

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://abc7.com/holly-courtier-zion...zanne/7262577/





    Still thinking it was a stunt to raise money, because unless she had adequate water she isn't going to survive that long.
    It absolutely was a stunt to raise money. I'm convinced that the whole family are scammers and judging by the response from the authorities, we aren't the only ones thinking this.
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    Her own family said she "scooped up the water swished it around in her mouth, and spit it out."

    Whatever I dont know if it was a hoax but I dont think people should harrass her family. Thats fucked up.

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    Nobody should be getting death threats, but these people are straight up lying. There's no possible way she survived without water that long. You can survive without food, but not without water.

    Liars.
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