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    14 Right Wing extremists charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

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    DETROIT (FOX 2) - Federal authorities have arrested six men who they said were conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

    In a complaint filed in federal court, authorities announced the charges against six men, Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta, all are accused of conspiring to kidnap Whitmer.

    All men with the exception of Croft are residents of Michigan. Croft lives in Delaware.

    Federal authorities and Michigan Attorney General held a press conference at 1 p.m. on Thursday to discuss the operation and arrests of seven other men connected to a Michigan militia group, Wolverine Watchmen.



    DETROIT (FOX 2) - Federal authorities have arrested six men who they said were conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

    In a complaint filed in federal court, authorities announced the charges against six men, Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta, all are accused of conspiring to kidnap Whitmer.

    All men with the exception of Croft are residents of Michigan. Croft lives in Delaware.

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    Federal authorities and Michigan Attorney General held a press conference at 1 p.m. on Thursday to discuss the operation and arrests of seven other men connected to a Michigan militia group, Wolverine Watchmen.

    According to the complaint, Croft, Fox, and about 13 other men gathered in Dublin, Ohio, on June 6 to form a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights in an effort to be self-sufficient. The group discussed ways to achieve this through violent means, the complaint says, and discussed plans.

    "Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," the FBI wrote. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message. "

    The FBI said Fox then reached out to a Michigan-based militia group and was focusing on Governor Whitmer.

    "Fox said he needed '200 men' to storm the Capitol building in Lansing, Michigan, and take hostages, including the Governor. Fox explained they would try the Governor of Michigan for 'treason,' and he said they would execute the plan before the November 2020 elections," according to federal officials.

    Governor Gretchen Whitmer said she will hold a press conference to discuss the arrests at 3 p.m. on Thursday.

    According to the FBI, it learned of the plan through confidential sources and undercover agents over several months who attended militia group meetings. The FBI said the militia group would hold field training exercises on private property in remote areas of Michigan, where they would engage in firearm training and tactical drills.

    At one point, the FBI said the group had a meeting in Grand Rapids in the basement of a shop that was accessed through a trap door hidden under a rug on the main floor. At that business, the FBI said they discussed the plan for the Capitol and planned to use "Molotov cocktails" to destroy police cars.

    The FBI said Fox called Whitmer a "tyrant b****" and asked the group to be linked with other systems and asked for ideas of what they can do.

    The militia group also met in Ohio and Wisconsin, the FBI reported, and on July 11 in Wisconsin, Croft and another member tried to make an improvised explosive device using black powder, balloons, a fuse, and BBs for shrapnel.

    According to the FBI, there are recordings of a discussion to attack a Michigan State Police facility and shooting up the Governor's vacation home. Fox said in a recording that the best opportunity was to "kidnap her outside her vacation home", the FBI said.

    "Snatch and grab, man. Grab the f*****? Governor. Just grab the b****. Because at that point, we do that, dude -- it?s over,? the FBI quoted Fox as saying.

    The FBI also said they would take her somewhere in Wisconsin for a "trial."

    On July 27, 2020 Fox asked in an encrypted group chat, which included Garbin, Harris and Franks ?Okay, well how?s everyone feel about kidnapping?? No one responded to the question. On July 28, 2020, Fox told CHS-2 over the phone that he had narrowed down his attack targets to the vacation home and the summer residence. The call was not recorded. The same day, Fox posted the following to a private Facebook page: ?We about to be busy ladies and gentlemen . . . This is where the Patriot shows up. Sacrifices his time, money, blood sweat and tears . . . it starts now so get f---ing prepared!!?

    According to the FBI, the group found her vacation home in late August, took pictures and video as they drove by, and found out how close police were to the home.

    In a mid-September meeting, the group met, made, and detonated an IED that was surrounded by human silhouette targets, the FBI said, and planned to put an IED under an overpass to divert police from the vacation home along M-31.

    According to documents, Fox wondered whether the group just needed to ?party it out, make a cake and send it,? in what CHS-2 believed was a coded reference to sending a bomb to the Governor.

    Fox spoke about explosives, saying ?In all honesty right now . . . I just wanna make the world glow, dude. I?m not even f---ing kidding. I just wanna make it all glow dude. I don?t f---ing care anymore, I?m just so sick of it. That?s what it?s gonna take for us to take it back, we?re just gonna have to everything?s gonna have to be annihilated man.

    "We?re gonna topple it all, dude. It?s what great frickin? conquerors, man, we?re just gonna conquer every f---ing thing man.? Fox and Garbin further discussed the need for the government to collapse because it has become so tyrannical."

    During the planning, the group had a conversation with an undercover officer that it would cost about $4,000 to get the explosives they want to blow up the bridge leading to the vacation home and they agreed to use the next few weeks to raise money, the FBI said.

    In a recorded call, Fox told an FBI source that he bought an 800,000-volt taser that he was planning to use in the kidnapping, the FBI said.

    On Wednesday, Oct. 7, Fox allegedly made plans to meet with an undercover officer to pay for explosives and exchange tactical gear.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/polit...mer/index.html

    Thirteen people were charged Thursday in an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, federal and state officials announced.

    The alleged scheme included plans to overthrow several state governments that the suspects "believe are violating the US Constitution," including the government of Michigan and Whitmer, according to a federal criminal complaint.

    Six people were charged federally with conspiracy to kidnap, and seven other people, associated with the militia group "Wolverine Watchmen," were charged by the state, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced.

    "The individuals in (state) custody are suspected to have attempted to identify the home addresses of law enforcement officers in order to target them, made threats of violence intended to instigate a civil war, and engaged in planning and training for an operation to attack the capitol building of Michigan and to kidnap government officials, including the governor of Michigan," Nessel said at a press conference.

    The arrests are likely to draw additional attention to the political tensions roiling the nation in the closing weeks of the 2020 election season, and underline warnings from law enforcement officials, members of Congress and groups that track extremism about the increasing threat of militia and far-right groups. Whitmer at times has been the focus of extreme vitriol from far-right groups over her handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

    In televised remarks Thursday afternoon, Whitmer said she "knew this job would be hard, but I'll be honest, I never could've imagined anything like this." She specifically blamed President Donald Trump, who has repeatedly declined to condemn far-right groups.

    "Just last week, the President of the United States stood before the American people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two Michigan militia groups," she said. "'Stand back and stand by,' he told them. 'Stand back and stand by.' Hate groups heard the President's words not as a rebuke, but as a rallying cry, as a call to action. When our leaders speak, their words matter. They carry weight."

    In response, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Whitmer is "sowing division."

    "President Trump has continually condemned white supremacists and all forms of hate," McEnany said in a statement to CNN. "Governor Whitmer is sowing division by making these outlandish allegations. America stands united against hate and in support of our federal law enforcement who stopped this plot."

    The six charged by the federal government are Michigan residents Adam Fox, 37, Ty Garbin, 24, Kaleb Franks, 26, Daniel Harris, 23, Brandon Caserta, 32, and Delaware resident Barry Croft, 44.

    The seven people charged by the state are Paul Bellar, 21, Shawn Fix, 38, Eric Molitor, 36, Michael Null, 38, William Null, 38, Pete Musico, 42, Joseph Morrison, 42. They face a variety of firearm and terror charges.

    The FBI became aware of the scheme, first reported by The Detroit News, in early 2020 through a social media group of individuals, according to the federal criminal complaint.

    Court documents say the FBI planted a confidential informant to travel to Dublin, Ohio, on June 6 for a meeting with Croft, Fox and about 13 others.

    "They discussed different ways of achieving this goal from peaceful endeavors to violent actions ... Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," according to the complaint.

    At one point during the meeting, the group discussed increasing their members and Fox reached out to a "Michigan-based militia group," according to the complaint.

    By June 14, a second confidential informant confirmed that Fox was introduced to the leader of the militia group and they met in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The informant audio-recorded conversations with Fox in which he allegedly said he needed "200 men" to storm the Capitol building in Lansing and take hostages, including Whitmer, according to the criminal complaint.

    Fox allegedly explained they would try the governor of Michigan for "treason" and he said they would execute the plan before the November 2020 elections.

    On June 20, Fox, Garbin and others met at Fox's business in Grand Rapids where attendees met in the basement accessed by a trap door hidden under a rug on the main floor, according to the criminal complaint. Attendees turned over their cell phones, which were brought upstairs to "prevent any monitoring."

    "The attendees discussed plans for assaulting the Michigan State Capitol, countering law enforcement first responders, and using 'Molotov cocktails' to destroy police vehicles. The attendees also discussed plans for an additional meeting during the first weekend of July when they also would conduct firearms and tactical training," according to the criminal complaint.

    In a video Fox live-streamed to a private Facebook group that included a confidential informant, he complained about the judicial system and the state of Michigan controlling the opening of gyms.

    Fox referred to Whitmer as "this tyrant b****," adding, "I don't know, boys, we gotta do something. You guys link with me on our other location system, give me some ideas of what we can do," according to authorities. The video was preserved by the FBI and a Facebook spokesperson told CNN the company is cooperating with the investigation.

    The conspirators conducted surveillance of Whitmer's vacation home on two occasions in late August and September, the complaint said. Croft and Fox discussed detonating explosive devices to divert police from the vacation home area, according to the FBI.

    Earlier this month, Fox confirmed to others in the group that he purchased a taser, which he had previously discussed doing so for use in the kidnapping plot, the court document says. The FBI said Fox, Garbin, Harris and Franks had planned to meet on Tuesday to pay for explosives and swap tactical gear.

    The five federal defendants who are Michigan residents made court appearances on Thursday afternoon and requested court-appointed attorneys. Bond hearings are scheduled for Tuesday.

    Croft, who is from Delaware, made an initial appearance in federal court there and remains in custody.

    He is expected to be extradited to Michigan after his detention hearing which has not been scheduled, officials said.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...ement-n1242670

    Whitmer conspiracy allegations tied to boogaloo movement

    Several of the six men charged in federal court Thursday with a conspiracy to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer have histories of anti-government organizing, as well as interest in countering what they saw as an "uprising" against President Donald Trump, according to their online profiles and comments.

    In addition, several of the seven men facing separate state terrorism charges for their activity with a group called the Wolverine Watchmen also posted pro-Trump and anti-government content.

    The men have not yet appeared in court or entered pleas.

    A senior federal law enforcement official said federal agents found that the group of seven tied to the Wolverine Watchmen believes in the "boogaloo" movement, which is largely dedicated to eradicating the government and killing law enforcement officers. Their social media profiles showed connections to a wide variety of known anti-government groups.

    Around the country, self-described members of the boogaloo movement have committed acts of violence and killed police officers in recent months, often in attempts to ignite what they believe will be a second civil war. Authorities said a California man accused of killing a police officer and a federal agent in June scrawled the word "Boog" in blood on the hood of a car during a standoff with police. Federal agents arrested two other members of the boogaloo movement whom they accused of offering to work with the terrorist group Hamas last month.

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    Some of the Mugshots are now released. At this point these Trump terrorists are basically the like people that assassinated congressman Leo Ryan because Jim Jones told them to do that or in this case because Donald Trump Ordered them to do that.


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    https://www.wxyz.com/news/michigan-l...every-american

    The Whitmer Cabinet has issued a response on the assassination/kidnapping attempt on the Governor

    (WXYZ) — In the wake of the thwarted plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, state leaders are calling out President Trump's inability to denounce white supremacy and its possible connection to domestic terrorism.

    Whitmer on kidnapping plot: 'This is not a militia, this is a domestic terror organization'
    Thursday night, Lt. Governor Garlin Gilchrist II took to twitter in response to the president's tweets saying Whitmer's "done a terrible job."

    "Governor Whitmer of Michigan has done a terrible job. She locked down her state for everyone, except her husband’s boating activities," President Trump tweeted. "The Federal Government provided tremendous help to the Great People of Michigan. My Justice Department and Federal Law Enforcement announced...today that they foiled a dangerous plot against the Governor of Michigan. Rather than say thank you, she calls me a White Supremacist—while Biden and Democrats refuse to condemn Antifa, Anarchists, Looters and Mobs that burn down Democrat run cities..."

    Photo shows two suspects in alleged kidnapping plot targeting Governor Whitmer inside Michigan Capitol
    Gilchrist tweeted blatantly: "Just stop. Enough is enough. You are a threat to the safety of every American."


    A few of the men arrested in the kidnapping plot were photographed were frequently seen at local demonstrations, including at a rally in protest of Governor Whitmer’s stay-at-home order held in Grand Rapids last May.


    After doubling down on her assertion that President Donald Trump is complicit in extremist behavior during a GMA interview Friday morning, the governor tweeted the men behind the plot were not a militia, but "domestic terrorists endangering and intimidating their fellow Americans."

    The Lt. Governor joined 7 Action News This Morning for an interview on the aftermath of the kidnapping plot and President Trump's response. Watch the full interview below:






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    Update Rumors of the 25th Amendment is floating on Trump

    https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/pe...endment-talks/

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is questioning President Donald Trump’s fitness to serve, announcing legislation Thursday that would create a commission to allow Congress to intervene under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution and remove the president from executive duties.

    Just weeks before the Nov. 3 election, Pelosi said Trump needs to disclose more about his health after his COVID-19 diagnosis. She noted Trump’s “strange tweet” halting talks on a new coronavirus aid package — he subsequently tried to reverse course — and said Americans need to know when, exactly, he first contracted COVID as others in the White House became infected. On Friday, she plans to roll out the legislation that would launch the commission for review.

    “The public needs to know the health condition of the president,” Pelosi said, later invoking the 25th Amendment, which allows a president’s cabinet or Congress to intervene when a president is unable to conduct the duties of the office.

    Trump responded swiftly via Twitter.

    “Crazy Nancy is the one who should be under observation. They don’t call her Crazy for nothing!” the president said.
    The president’s opponents have discussed invoking the 25th Amendment for some time, but are raising it now, so close to Election Day, as the campaigns are fast turning into a referendum on Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic. More than 210,000 Americans have died and millions more infected by the virus that shows no signs of abating heading into what public health experts warn will be a difficult flu season and winter.

    Trump says he “feels great” after being hospitalized and is back at work in the White House. But his doctors have given mixed signals about his diagnosis and treatment. Trump plans to resume campaigning soon.

    Congress is not in legislative session, and so any serious consideration of the measure, let alone votes in the House or Senate, is unlikely. But the bill serves as a political tool to stoke questions about Trump’s health as his own White House is hit by an outbreak infecting top aides, staff and visitors, including senators.

    In a stunning admission, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Thursday that he had stopped going to the White House two months ago because he disagreed with its coronavirus protocols. His last visit was Aug. 6.

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    “My impression was their approach to how to handle this was different from mine and what I insisted we do in the Senate, which is to wear a mask and practice social distancing,” McConnell said at a campaign stop in northern Kentucky for his own reelection.

    On Friday, Pelosi along with Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., a constitutional law professor, plan to roll out the legislation that would create a commission as outlined under the 25th Amendment, which was passed by Congress and ratified in 1967 as way to ensure a continuity of power in the aftermath of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination.

    It says the vice president and a majority of principal officers of the executive departments “or of such other body as Congress” may by law provide a declaration to Congress that the president “is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” At that point, the vice president would immediately assume the powers of acting president.

    Trump abruptly halted talks this week on the new COVID aid package, sending the economy reeling, his GOP allies scrambling and leaving millions of Americans without additional support. Then he immediately reversed course and tried to kickstart talks.

    It all came in a head-spinning series of tweets and comments days after he returned to the White House after his hospitalization with COVID-19.

    First, Trump told the Republican leaders in Congress on Tuesday to quit negotiating on an aid package. By Wednesday he was trying to bring everyone back to the table for his priority items — including $1,200 stimulus checks for almost all adult Americans.

    Pelosi said Thursday that Democrats are “still at the table” and her office resumed conversations with top negotiator Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

    She said she told Mnuchin she was willing to consider a measure to prop up the airline industry, which is facing widespread layoffs. But that aid, she said, must go alongside broader legislation that includes the kind of COVID testing, tracing and health practices that Democrats say are needed as part of a national strategy to “crush the virus.”

    Normally, the high stakes and splintered politics ahead of an election could provide grounds for a robust package. But with other Republicans refusing to spend more money, it appears no relief will be coming with Americans already beginning early voting.

    Democrats have made it clear they will not do a piecemeal approach until the Trump administration signs off on a broader, comprehensive plan they are proposing for virus testing, tracing and other actions to stop its spread. They have scaled back a $3 trillion measure to a $2.2 trillion proposal. The White House presented a $1.6 trillion counter offer. Talks were ongoing when Trump shut them down.

    “There’s no question that the proximity to the election has made this much more challenging,” McConnell said.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/polit...der/index.html

    Trump's law-and-order mantra goes missing in wake of domestic terror plot against Democratic governor

    Over the summer, as racial justice demonstrations swept through American cities, President Donald Trump warned he would wield the powers of government to suppress violence. Embracing a "law and order" mantle, Trump himself announced from the East Room a surge of federal agents and castigated groups such as Black Lives Matter as cultivating "hate."

    "My first duty as President is to protect the American people, and today I'm taking action to fulfill that sacred obligation," he declared.
    A few months later, Trump's only acknowledgment of his government taking down an alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap the Democratic governor of Michigan was to wonder why he hadn't been thanked.

    How Trump chooses to promote his administration's efforts to enforce "law and order" follow a clear pattern of political calculation; in instances when the Justice Department finds cases that bolster his claims of fraudulent voting, rampant urban crime or deep state corruption, Trump is eager to participate. He's likely to reinforce the message about quelling violence on Saturday when he delivers remarks on "law and order" from a White House balcony to a crowd on the South Lawn.

    But when the government has worked to combat extremist anti-government groups -- which even his own FBI says present the most pressing threat to the nation -- Trump has at best ignored the efforts and at worst used them to fan the very resentments held by the groups' followers.
    The situation could only become more fraught as the election nears and as some extremist groups seek to retaliate against continued lockdown orders. Trump himself has railed against continued restrictions and has pointedly refused to call for post-election calm, even as he makes false claims about a rigged vote.

    Former officials and others familiar with the situation say Trump has demonstrated little interest in making efforts to combat domestic terrorism a priority for his administration, despite warnings from law enforcement officials, members of Congress and groups that track extremism about the increasing threat of extremist and far-right groups. Some have claimed White House officials attempted to suppress use of the phrase "domestic terrorism" altogether over the course of the Trump administration.

    Others said it was evident Trump recognized his own supporters were among those being labeled "domestic terrorists" and believed it would damage his standing with his base to warn of their danger.

    Animated instead by immigration enforcement and a crackdown on urban crime -- issues he believes galvanize his voters -- Trump has publicly downplayed the threat posed by armed militia groups and sought to focus attention elsewhere.

    After the FBI investigated whether local officials in Pennsylvania improperly discarded ballots, Trump was briefed personally on the matter by Attorney General Bill Barr and revealed details of it during a Fox interview before they were made public.

    He has also taken enthusiastic and at times furious interest in the department's work probing the origins of the Russia investigation, publicly encouraging Barr to "move" this week to bring criminal charges as the presidential election nears.

    But he hasn't made broad or vocal appeals on combating domestic terrorism. In the hours of phone-in television interviews he conduced after the Michigan plot was revealed, Trump made barely a passing mention of it -- and only to bemoan the fact he wasn't getting credit.
    "The President always wants to pick a side, and he wants to pick the side that supports him," said Miles Taylor, a former Homeland Security official in Trump's administration who now opposes the President and is a CNN contributor. "But Donald Trump has created, in my opinion, the favorable conditions that have allowed these domestic terrorist groups to rise."

    "The White House wanted to cover its eyes and wanted to cover its ears when it heard about domestic terrorism because they didn't want to pay attention to the right-wing extremists that they saw as a potential base of support," Taylor said. "As a consequence, the President's rhetoric has served as a loaded gun for those groups who have since taken his words as sort of permission to do what they're doing."

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    Update 2 of the accused served in the Marines.

    DETROIT (AP) — The U.S. Marine Corps confirmed Saturday that two men charged in plots against Michigan’s governmentspent time in the military.

    Officials are “aware of the circumstances surrounding” Daniel Harris and Joseph Morrison and will assist in any way in the investigation, the Marine Corps said in an emailed statement.

    Harris is one of six men charged federally with conspiring to kidnap Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer before the Nov. 3 elections. Morrison, 26, is one of seven men charged under the state’s anti-terrorism law for allegedly seeking to storm the Michigan Capitol and ignite a “civil war.” Authorities say he was a founding member of the “anti-government, anti-law enforcement” Wolverine Watchmen.

    Harris’s military file shows he was a rifleman, serving from 2014 until last year. He attained the rank of corporal E-4 in 2019 and his final duty assignment was at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

    Morrison was a lance corporal and served in the Marine Corps Reserve from 2015 until Thursday, the day he was arraigned on state charges. The Marine Corps said his departure from the reserves is “unrelated to (his) current situation.”

    Morrison’s last assignment was with the 4th Marine Logistics Group in Battle Creek, Michigan.

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    GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — Accused conspirators charged in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer also discussed "taking" Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, an FBI agent testified at a court hearing Tuesday.

    During the hearing here in Grand Rapids to discuss the charges filed last week against members of a self-proclaimed militia accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor, FBI Special Agent Richard Trask revealed that months ago some of the suspects met in Dublin, Ohio, where Northam, also a Democrat, was discussed as a potential target.

    “At this meeting they discussed possible targets, taking a sitting governor, specifically issues with the governors of Michigan and Virginia, based upon the lockdown orders,” Trask told the court, referring to state-mandated restrictions implemented to combat the spread of coronavirus.

    No one has been charged with plotting to kidnap Northam, but like Whitmer, Virginia’s governor was the target of intense criticism from some conservatives over the summer. President Trump has been sharply critical of both governors, tweeting all-caps demands that their states be “liberated.”
    Northam spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky said the FBI “alerted key members of the Governor’s security team throughout the course of their investigation,” but to keep tight control of information about such a sensitive matter, neither the governor nor other members of his staff were told.

    “At no time was the Governor or his family in imminent danger,” said Yarmosky, adding that extra security measures “have been in place for Governor Northam and his family for quite some time, and they will remain.”

    The spokeswoman also faulted Trump for fueling anger.

    “Here’s the reality: President Trump called upon his supporters to ‘LIBERATE VIRGINIA’ in April — just like Michigan. In fact, the President regularly encourages violence against those who disagree with him. The rhetoric coming out of this White House has serious and potentially deadly consequences. It must stop,” said Yarmosky.
    Tuesday’s hearing is to determine if some of those charged in the alleged Whitmer plot can be released on bond. Separately, seven others are charged by state authorities in Michigan with providing support to terrorist acts.

    Trask, the FBI agent, described in great detail how federal agents became concerned about the accused, particularly after a June meeting in Dublin, Ohio, where self-styled militia members from four or five states gathered to discuss possible plans.

    It was at that meeting, Trask said, that the notion of grabbing governors was raised, specifically mentioning the governors of Virginia and Michigan. One of the suspects, Adam Fox, then returned to Michigan and began recruiting possible accomplices for such a kidnapping, Trask said.

    Fox and others conducted surveillance on the governor’s lakeside vacation home, Trask said, and at one point Fox told the others that he wanted to abduct the governor, take her away from the home by boat, and then “leave her out in the boat” so others would have to come rescue her, according to testimony at the hearing. Another option discussed was to take Whitmer to a secret location where they would put her “on trial,” Trask said, possibly in Wisconsin.

    From left, Kaleb James Franks, 26; Daniel Joseph Harris, 23; Brandon Caserta, 32; Adam Dean Fox, 37; Ty Gerard Garbin, 24. All are charged with conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
    From left, Kaleb James Franks, 26; Daniel Joseph Harris, 23; Brandon Caserta, 32; Adam Dean Fox, 37; Ty Gerard Garbin, 24. All are charged with conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. (Kent County Sheriff/Handout/EPA-EFE/REX/Shutterstock)
    The hearing began with five of the defendants being led into the courtroom in handcuffs, all but Fox wearing masks due to the coronavirus.

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    Trask also detailed the ways in which the half-dozen suspects repeatedly discussed plans to attack law enforcement. At one point, a member of the group mentioned the possibility of attacking Michigan State Police buildings.

    At another point, one of the defendants, Brandon Caserta, became irate that he had been pulled over and ticketed for driving without insurance.

    “An injustice just happened to me,” Caserta messaged the other suspects, according to evidence introduced at the hearing, and he wrote he could find out where the two police officers lived and “tap them,” which the FBI agent said was slang for killing them.

    Even as the FBI closed in on the group, the defendants became increasingly concerned they might be under investigation by federal agents. At one point, the accused collaborators scanned each other’s bodies for radio signals, to see if anyone was wearing a recording device, the agent said. While the scans turned up nothing, the group’s alleged plot was infiltrated by two informants and two undercover agents, Trask said, and the FBI secretly recorded more than 100 hours of the suspects’ conversations.

    Laura Vozzella and Gregory S. Schneider in Richmond contributed to this report.

    Update Governor Northam of Virginia was also a target of kidnapping too besides Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...er-up-michigan

    Trump goes on a rant against Whitmer.

    Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan who was the subject of a rightwing plot to kidnap and possibly kill her over coronavirus lockdown measures, has accused Donald Trump of “inspiring and incentivising domestic terrorism”.


    Whitmer spoke after Lara Trump, a campaign surrogate for her father-in-law, insisted the president was merely “having fun” when he attacked Whitmer and responded to chants of “Lock her up!” at a rally in Muskegon.

    “Lock ’em all up,” the president said.

    On Sunday, on NBC’s Meet the Press, Whitmer was asked about the coronavirus situation in her state and Trump’s encouragement of the chants against her.

    “It’s incredibly disturbing,” she said, “that the president of the United States, 10 days after a plot to kidnap me, put me on trial and execute me was uncovered, the president is at it again and inspiring and incentivising and inciting this kind of domestic terrorism.

    “It is wrong. It’s got to end. It is dangerous not just for me and my family, but for public servants everywhere who are doing their jobs and trying to protect their fellow Americans. People of goodwill on both sides of the aisle need to step up and call this out and bring the heat down.

    “This is the United States of America. We do not tolerate actions like he has given comfort to and that’s why we all have to be in this together.”

    In Muskegon, Trump targeted Whitmer several times, criticising state rules on the coronavirus, calling the governor “dishonest” and making light of the plot that was foiled by the FBI.

    Thirteen men have been charged in connection with the plot, which included plans to storm the state capitol and hold some kind of trial. Trump took credit for federal law enforcement’s role in foiling the plot.

    “They said she was threatened,” he said. “And she blamed me. Hopefully you’ll be sending her packing pretty soon.”

    The chant of “Lock her up!” was a reprise of chants Trump supporters aimed at Hillary Clinton throughout the 2016 campaign.

    Whitmer’s digital director, Tori Saylor, responded on Twitter, writing: “Every single time the president does this at a rally, the violent rhetoric towards her immediately escalates on social media. It has to stop. It just has to.”

    Lee Chatfield, the Republican speaker of the Michigan house, wrote: “Trump didn’t chant ‘lock her up’ about our governor. But others did and it was wrong. She was literally just targeted. Let’s debate differences. Let’s win elections. But not that.”

    But Lara Trump told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday the president “wasn’t doing anything I don’t think to provoke people to threaten this woman at all. He was having fun at a Trump rally and quite frankly, there are bigger issues than this right now for everyday Americans people … he wasn’t encouraging people to threaten this woman, that’s ridiculous.”

    The president’s daughter-in-law also said: “Well gosh I would like to show people my social media and the threats against me, the threats against my children.”

    Michigan added 1,791 new Covid-19 cases on Saturday, bringing its seven-day total past 10,000, a record. Wisconsin, where Trump campaigned later, reported 3,861 new cases on Friday, also a record. Trump slammed anti-coronavirus measures.


    “You got to get your governor to open your state and get your schools open,” he said in Muskegon. “The schools have to be open, right?”

    More than 8 million people have been infected in the US and nearly 220,000 have died. Joe Biden continues to hammer Trump for his response.

    “All President Trump is offering the people of Michigan is more lies and distractions,” the Democratic nominee said. “No plan to get the virus under control, no strategy for pulling our economy out of this recession, no vision for uniting the country.”

    Trump told both his rallies Biden would “shut down the country, delay the vaccine and prolong the pandemic”, and insisted the country was turning the corner.

    Michigan and Wisconsin are key battleground states in the fight for the electoral college. Trump won both as he took the presidency despite losing the national popular vote to Clinton by nearly 3m ballots. He is behind in both states this year.



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    Update a 14th person has been charged with Terrorism

    CNN)A 14th person has been charged in the alleged domestic terrorism plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, according to the Michigan attorney general's office.

    Brian Higgins, 51, of Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin, has been charged with material support of an act of terrorism for his "alleged participation in a plan of domestic terrorism that included storming the Michigan Capitol building and harming government officials," Attorney General Dana Nessel's office said in a release.
    Seven other people, all associated with the extremist group Wolverine Watchmen, were charged by the state of Michigan last week, and the federal government has charged an additional six people.
    "While the political rhetoric in our nation may at times be divisive, I am encouraged by the united front our law enforcement community has displayed in response to this indescribable act of terror," Nessel said.
    "These were very credible and very serious threats to our elected officials and the public in general, and the swift actions taken by state and federal authorities this past week are nothing short of heroic," she said.
    Higgins has been charged with "material support or resources to a terrorist organization," according to the arrest warrant.
    Higgins is thought to have "provided material support and resources in the furtherance of terrorist acts," according to the affidavit.
    Higgins provided his night-vision goggles for surveillance of Whitmer's vacation home and used a dash camera in his vehicle to record the surveillance "to aid in kidnapping plans," the affidavit said.
    Those charged in Michigan last week are suspected of attempting to identify the addresses of law enforcement officers "in order to target them," Nessel said after those arrests.

    They "made threats of violence intended to instigate a civil war, and engaged in planning and training for an operation to attack the capitol building of Michigan and to kidnap government officials, including the governor of Michigan," Nessel said.
    CNN is trying to determine whether Higgins has an attorney.
    Higgins and seven other individuals were charged with a total of 20 state felony charges filed by Nessel.
    If convicted, Higgins faces up to 20 years in jail for the act of terrorism charge.
    Higgins was arrested in Wisconsin on Thursday and will be extradited to Michigan, according to the news release.
    No court dates have been scheduled yet, according to the release.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/us/mi...soh/index.html

    Lawyer for accused domestic terrorist says suspect was just 'playing army'

    It's a late summer weekend in northwestern Michigan, and leaves have started to turn from green to shades of yellow and orange in the village of Luther, home to about 320. A mile or so off the main road, deep in the woods, a few people live in mobile homes parked atop a hill. There's no running water or electricity and the best way to get there is four-wheel-drive.

    Just past one mobile home, neat piles of seven or eight tires stretch out 15 feet. Beyond them, wooden pallets have been stacked to form a C-shaped wall. Human silhouettes have been spray-painted in red on some of them. They are pocked with bullet holes.

    And on that mid-September weekend, there was a large explosion.

    "We heard a big boom, a big one," said Cliff Demos, who lives about a mile away with his wife and horses. "It was right over there," he said, pointing up the road. "It was huge. It was huge."

    The FBI says a September 12 field training exercise there included making a bomb as part of a domestic terrorist plot against Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that has led to six men being charged at the federal level and eight more with state crimes.

    The FBI says the Luther property belongs to Ty Garbin, and he along with eight others were training there for a possible attack.


    But Garbin's lawyer, Mark Satawa, says there is much still to learn.

    In an exclusive interview with CNN, Satawa said the FBI's account of that weekend omitted details about his client's reaction and willingness to participate.

    He confirmed that Garbin, 24, who has been charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping, was at his property with others and there was an explosion.

    The government's case states one of Garbin's guests, Barry Croft, had brought what he called his "chemistry set," which included components to build an improvised explosive device with a firework, black powder, and pennies as shrapnel. Later that same day, the group put the device in the clearing by the wooden targets featuring human silhouettes, according to the FBI, and Croft set it off.

    According to Satawa, that was a breaking point for Garbin.

    "He had a smoke bomb in a balloon set off on his property that he quickly disavowed, took away, and said 'we're not doing this anymore' to the people that were doing it," Satawa said of Garbin, adding he questions whether his client was even aware of the bomb plans.

    "Did anyone tell him in advance that they were bringing explosives? Did Ty Garbin say to anyone, 'You can't bring explosives'? Did they do it with his consent or with his wishes or against his wishes? Did they do it with his knowledge or despite his knowledge, without his knowledge?" Satawa asked.

    But the FBI's account states that two months earlier, at another training exercise, Garbin had already helped Croft build a homemade bomb -- that time with a fuse. It was faulty and did not detonate, the FBI said.

    The federal criminal complaint against Garbin and five others also details a message Garbin sent in response to an informant in an encrypted chat that alludes to what a bomb would do to a bridge close to Whitmer's vacation home, if they wanted to use an explosion to delay the arrival of law enforcement.

    Satawa says the paid informant is relied heavily upon in the government's initial case. He adds that, in general, there is a trust deficit when it comes to paid informants.
    The case against the 14 men follows a monthslong investigation using informants and undercover operatives to gather evidence.

    The weekend in Luther is critical to the FBI's building of its case because after the bomb test on Saturday, the men drove about an hour and a half to conduct surveillance on Whitmer's vacation home, the complaint says.

    Satawa paints a different picture. "This was, in many ways, a campout," he said. "There were bonfires and cookouts and barbecues and so even the government's evidence suggests that only a small fraction of the people that were there were part of the conversation (about kidnapping Whitmer)."

    He rejects allegations that the men, whom he calls "a group of guys in the woods playing army," would have carried out any plan to overthrow the government.

    "Saying things like, I hate the government, I hate the President, I hate the governor, you know, even more offensive things like Whitmer is a tyrant or Whitmer is a tyrannical you-know-what does not mean that they seriously were planning to overthrow the government, or even seriously planning to kidnap her, put her on a boat, and set her adrift in the middle of Lake Michigan," Satawa said.

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    "Playing Army". Right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/us/mi...soh/index.html

    Lawyer for accused domestic terrorist says suspect was just 'playing army'
    Ends with "I was just Sarcastic" type rants.

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    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ys/6060368002/

    A Delaware man accused of plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer also threatened to hang President Donald Trump and posted a hit list on Facebook targeting other elected leaders, including former President Barack Obama, according to an unsealed search warrant affidavit obtained by The Detroit News.

    The affidavit provides new details about how the FBI thwarted the alleged plot to kidnap Whitmer, a Democrat, and kill police officers by enlisting the help of confidential informants. One of the informants was a militia member who met a group of men accused in the kidnapping plot and became so concerned that the individual agreed to become an FBI confidential informant, according to the court filing.

    The affidavit gave federal agents permission to search a Facebook account belonging to Barry Croft, 44, of Bear, Delaware, who was one of six men charged in federal court with conspiracy to kidnap. Evidence collected by FBI agents portrays his Facebook account as a virtual bulletin board filled with violent imagery, including a noose and a list of grievances in which he mulled killing Democrats and Republicans including South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster, Muslims and liberals.

    "I say we hang everything currently governing us, they're all guilty!!!," Croft wrote in May on his Facebook page, which also included an image of Trump. "Wanna hang this mf'er too..."

    The affidavit helps trace the roots of an investigation that drew national attention earlier this month when FBI agents said they thwarted a plot to violently overthrow the government as well as kidnap and harm Whitmer. The conspiracy included surveillance visits to the governor's home in northern Michigan and training with firearms and explosive devices.

    The FBI started investigating in March after an unidentified police department learned about members of the militia group who were trying to obtain the home addresses of local police officers, according to court filings.

    “At the time, the FBI interviewed a member of the militia group who was concerned about the group’s plans to target and kill police officers, and that person agreed to become a (confidential human source),” FBI Special Agent Kristopher Long wrote.

    • Adam Fox, 37, of Potterville, known as "Alpha F--- You"

    * Kaleb Franks, 26, of Waterford, known as "Red Hot."

    • Ty Garbin, 25, of Hartland Township, known as "Gunney"

    • Daniel Harris, 23, known as "Beaker"

    • Brandon Caserta, 32, known as "Debased Tyrant"

    The 40-page filing gave FBI agents permission to search a Facebook account belonging to Croft.

    In late June, Croft posted a photo of a noose and a caption that listed people and groups that should "hang." The list included references to Obama; former President Bill Clinton and his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; Democratic U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York; as well as Democrats, liberals, Muslims and "all anti-Americans."
    On May 8, the FBI obtained a federal search warrant to go through Croft’s Facebook account. The review found messages “plotting potential acts of violence.” On May 3, Croft messaged another user “he may be first.” The user responded, “SC.” The FBI contends that the individual referenced was McMaster, the Republican governor of South Carolina.

    Yup. I’m going. With Sword,” Croft replied.

    The following day, Croft wrote “I’ll die in defense of the constitution” and “I’ll be in Columbia, SC, on Friday. They say they want their governor in custody.”

    “I want to grab them all and hold trial,” he added.

    McMaster spokesman Brian Symmes declined comment, citing a practice of not commenting about the governor's security issues.

    McMaster is the third governor linked to the alleged conspirators. During a bond hearing earlier this month in federal court, an FBI agent testified that plotters discussed "taking out" Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, a Democrat.

    Croft’s social media posts could be viewed as constitutionally protected free speech but likely would raise concerns within the law enforcement community, said Jon Lewis, a research fellow at the Program on Extremism at George Washington University.

    “It certainly looks like what you would expect from a typical anti-government extremist ideology where, to them, anyone who represents the government is inherently a bad actor and someone acting in bad faith,” Lewis said.

    On May 17, Croft targeted 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in a Facebook post, saying her noose “for war crimes against humanity awaits.”

    “Please, don’t get me twisted, I want to hang them all, not 1 or a picked 10, all of them. They all victimize God’s people.”

    On May 25, he posted, “Which governor is going to end up dragged off and hung for treason first? It’s really a spin the bottle match at this point, and I’m sure a few mayors are in the running.”

    The post included the image of a noose, according to the FBI.

    On or about June 24, Croft posted, “I’m for hanging Democrats, Republicans and Libertarians.”

    Croft often expressed on social media the desire to hang Trump, Obama, the Clintons and anyone else serving in government, according to the FB
    “Please, don’t get me twisted, I want to hang them all, not 1 or a picked 10, all of them. They all victimize God’s people.”

    On May 25, he posted, “Which governor is going to end up dragged off and hung for treason first? It’s really a spin the bottle match at this point, and I’m sure a few mayors are in the running.”

    The post included the image of a noose, according to the FBI.

    On or about June 24, Croft posted, “I’m for hanging Democrats, Republicans and Libertarians.”

    Croft often expressed on social media the desire to hang Trump, Obama, the Clintons and anyone else serving in government, according to the FB

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    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ys/6060368002/

    This group is going on a Reign of Terror and a new name has popped up the Governor of South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster was named in a Kidnapping threat by the same group planning to go after Governor Whitmer of Michigan.

    He wanted to “go to war against the government of North Carolina,” while also discussing making a citizen’s arrest of McMaster, according to the search warrant affidavit.

    “There is not one ------------ serving in this bull---- government that I don't want to take, stick to a ------------- tree, and dangle...," Croft said in a Facebook video on May 28, according to the FBI.

    The Delaware suspect first came to the attention of the FBI in October 2019, when he “attempted to provide support to Kevin Massey, who had been convicted of firearms offenses following his involvement in a ‘militia patrol’ on the border of Texas and Mexico,” according to the affidavit.

    “Massey’s status as a fugitive became a symbol of government oppression for individuals, like Croft, who harbored anti-government and anti-federal law enforcement views," the FBI agent wrote.

    Croft and Massey conversed several times on Facebook after Massey failed to appear for a supervised release hearing and became a fugitive, the FBI agent wrote.

    “In those messages, Croft stated ‘They will have to pay for what they have done’ and ‘I don't care if we destroy this whole planet in the fight that is coming, but a reckoning is necessary."

    In an exchange with someone identified by the government as “Facebook User #2,” Croft further expressed disdain for Trump. He also said a "total offensive" was planned for April 25.

    Facebook closed Croft’s account for violating its “policy prohibiting certain speech or actions” in late April, according to the affidavit.

    Croft opened a new account and continued posting anti-government rhetoric, the FBI said.

    https://www.wistv.com/2020/10/28/rep...igan-governor/

    CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCSC) - Gov. Henry McMaster was one of several people allegedly targeted by a group suspected of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, according to The Detroit News.

    The newspaper published an article on Wednesday detailing 44-year-old Barry Croft’s alleged plans to target additional elected leaders including South Carolina’s governor.

    The report cited an unsealed search warrant affidavit that detailed other targets including former President Barack Obama.

    This past May, the FBI obtained a federal search warrant to look through Croft’s Facebook account and found a message by Croft to another user saying,"he may be first." The user then responded “SC,” which the FBI said referenced McMaster.

    In addition, the Detroit News reported that Croft wrote the following day,"I’ll die in defense of the constitution" and “I’ll be in Columbia, SC on Friday. They say they want their governor in custody.”

    Paul Edward Bellar, one of the people charged with the plot to kidnap Whitmer was arrested in South Carolina. It’s unclear if Bellar was a part of the plan to target McMaster.

    Earlier this month, prosecutors provided enough evidence to move toward trial for five Michigan men accused of plotting to kidnap Whitmer.

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    Rudy Giuliani accused of inciting beheadings

    Rudy Giuliani suggested someone 'cut the head off' Democratic leaders in Fox News interview
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    Mere hours after an embarrassing press conference, President Donald Trump?s attorney Rudy Giuliani suggested that someone should ?cut the head off? Democrat leaders.

    Speaking to Fox News host Sean Hannity, Giuliani used a throat-slitting gesture after making baseless claims about the electoral process, including a conspiracy that a German company coordinated with the Biden campaign to ?come up? with votes.

    ?Somebody?s gotta cut the head off,? Giuliani said as he made the gesture on the show, aired Thursday night.

    His comments during the segment bear a resemblance to the falsehoods he made during the press briefing Thursday, which was held at the Republican National Committee headquarters on Capitol Hill. Throughout, he alleged he had evidence of ?voter fraud? despite not having proof.

    The press briefing went viral, in large part due to an apparent mishap in which Giuliani's hair dye leeched off his scalp.

    Critics roast Rudy Giuliani for apparent hair dye mishap: 'Hire union hair and makeup professionals'

    A day after the conference, his son and a Trump staffer, Andrew Giuliani, tested positive for COVID-19.

    ?If we don?t fix this, Sean, we?ll never have a free and fair election ? at least for the next 30 or 40 years,? he said.

    Giuliani added: "Somehow the Democrat party was hijacked by Clinton and since then it's gone more corrupt.?

    Soon after, Hannity cut Giuliani off mid-sentence ? and quickly apologized: ?I?m not trying to cut you off.?

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    I'm just here to post the obligatory fuck Trump and all of his supporters. He's made America hate again. Not that there wasn't hate before Trump, then they seemed to keep it confided to their own homes, churches and online groups. Now it's just a shit show of hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queena View Post
    I'm just here to post the obligatory fuck Trump and all of his supporters. He's made America hate again. Not that there wasn't hate before Trump, then they seemed to keep it confided to their own homes, churches and online groups. Now it's just a shit show of hate.
    I'll also say we were in the leading stages for having a Genocide in this country. We need to learn how other countries faced Genocide and it came from hate speech like this. Yes an influential Rwandan media mogul was accused of spreading hate on their airwaves prior to the 1994 Rwandan Genocide.


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