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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLanders View Post
    Hope nobody you know drinks the Trump Kool-Aid.
    I don't associate with people that drink the Trump Kool-aid. However, he went to an airport where lots of people were working and/or traveling, and these people will be coming into contact with other employees and family/friends in the community, so it really doesn't matter whether you drink the Trump Kool-aid or not, he and his super spreader entourage potentially exposed a bunch of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I don't associate with people that drink the Trump Kool-aid. However, he went to an airport where lots of people were working and/or traveling, and these people will be coming into contact with other employees and family/friends in the community, so it really doesn't matter whether you drink the Trump Kool-aid or not, he and his super spreader entourage potentially exposed a bunch of people.
    I was thinking of you during that rally. Let's see how many end up with it or better yet, dead. We need Darwin to do his work.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I was thinking of you during that rally. Let's see how many end up with it or better yet, dead. We need Darwin to do his work.
    The problem with Darwin is that he won't confine his "work" to those at the rally. We see it here as well, lots of not so careful people went to the Sturgis Bike Rally. Next week they went back to their regular lives, working at jobs where they come into contact with all manner of less insane people. Now, two months after the rally cases have spread every where. If we could only (what is the phrase I'm looking for?) Oh yes. Lock them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    The problem with Darwin is that he won't confine his "work" to those at the rally. We see it here as well, lots of not so careful people went to the Sturgis Bike Rally. Next week they went back to their regular lives, working at jobs where they come into contact with all manner of less insane people. Now, two months after the rally cases have spread every where. If we could only (what is the phrase I'm looking for?) Oh yes. Lock them up.
    This is exactly what I am worried about. Lots of people work and pass through this airport every day, and if there is an incubation period of 2 weeks, who knows how many people will be exposed, and then in turn expose other people. I'm super pissed that he is doing these rallies in person. If we could limit it to the dumb non-mask wearing GOP that get sick, then fine...but we all know that isn't how it works. And since Gov DeSansBrains lifted all the restrictions right before this happens, everyone will have even more opportunity to not wear masks and to congregate in large groups and spread it more. Yay!

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...19/3656978001/

    Barron Trump has been tested positive for COVID-19

    Melania Trump said Wednesday that after an initial negative test, 14-year-old Barron Trump tested positive for COVID-19.

    "It was two weeks ago when I received the diagnosis that so many Americans across our country and the world had already received—I tested positive for COVID-19," the first lady said in a statement. "To make matters worse, my husband, and our nation’s Commander-in-Chief, received the same news."

    She continued: "Naturally my mind went immediately to our son. To our great relief he tested negative, but again, as so many parents have thought over the past several months, I couldn’t help but think “what about tomorrow or the next day?”

    My fear came true when he was tested again and it came up positive. Luckily he is a strong teenager and exhibited no symptoms. In one way I was glad the three of us went through this at the same time so we could take care of one another and spend time together. He has since tested negative."

    Stephanie Grisham, the first lady's chief of staff and spokeswoman, told USA TODAY on Oct. 2 that Barron "has tested negative, and all precautions are being taken to ensure he’s kept safe and healthy."

    Before departing for a campaign rally in Des Moines Wednesday, President Donald Trump told reporters on the White House South Lawn that Barron is doing "fine."

    The president was discharged from Walter Reed National Medical Center Monday, four days after he and Melania tested positive for COVID-19. Trump has tested negative for COVID-19 on “consecutive days,” White House physician Sean Conley said in a memo released Monday. The first lady said Wednesday she, too, has since tested negative.

    At least 20 people, including top administration officials, have tested positive since Trump announced his positive results Oct. 2. Many attended Judge Amy Coney Barrett's nomination ceremony Sept. 26 at the White House Rose Garden, where few people wore masks.

    More:More than two dozen administration officials, associates and others have tested positive

    Barron's private school, St. Andrew's Episcopal, was set to begin "a phased transition to hybrid learning" this week.

    Asked back in July about sending his son and grandchildren back to school, Trump said he would be "comfortable" with it. At the time, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said that it would be a "personal decision" by the president and first lady.

    The first lady also detailed her experience with the virus Wednesday, saying though she experienced "minimal" symptoms, "a roller coaster of symptoms" hit her "all at once" in the days after her diagnosis.

    "I experienced body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time. I chose to go a more natural route in terms of medicine, opting more for vitamins and healthy food," she said.

    The first lady said her convalescence gave her time to "reflect."

    "When my husband was taken to Walter Reed as a precaution, I spent much of my time reflecting on my family. I also thought about the hundreds of thousands of people across our country who have been impacted by this illness that infects people with no discrimination," she said.

    Melania also thanked the staff that nursed her back to health. "It was an unfamiliar feeling for me to be the patient instead of a person trying to encourage our nation to stay healthy and safe. It was me being taken care of now, and getting first-hand experience with all that COVID-19 can do," she said.

    "To the medical staff and the residence staff who have been taking care of our family—thank you doesn’t say enough," she added.

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    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-embrace...200322727.html

    In the days following President Trump’s apparent recovery from COVID-19, he and his administration have returned to pushing the notion that America should fight the pandemic by attempting to achieve so-called herd immunity, rather than trying to stop the spread through the use of masks and by reducing in-person contacts.

    On Sunday, one day after his doctors cleared his return to the campaign trail, Trump posted a tweet that was quickly flagged on Twitter as spreading misinformation.

    “A total and complete sign off from White House Doctors yesterday. That means I can’t get it (immune), and can’t give it. Very nice to know!!!” the president wrote.

    In fact, some people — very few — who have recovered from COVID-19 have been infected a second time, apparently with a mutated strain of the virus. The idea behind herd immunity is that if a high enough percentage of a population, upwards of 60 to 70 percent, is exposed to a virus and produces antibodies for it, the chain of infection will be broken.

    Vaccination is one way that communities can help achieve herd immunity — which is why doctors urge patients young and old to get the flu shot each year — because it introduces a small amount of the virus into the human body, triggering the production of antibodies.

    But for now, at least, a COVID-19 vaccine remains elusive and the U.S. is nowhere close to herd immunity. The number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 is a little less than 8 million; the actual number is believed to be considerably higher, but epidemiologists estimate that 85 to 90 percent of Americans are still susceptible to catching the disease. There have been more than 216,000 confirmed deaths from the disease in the U.S., implying a case fatality rate that could be as high as 2.74 percent. But even a much lower rate, applied to the population range still susceptible to contracting COVID-19, could result in a staggering death toll, far exceeding current fatalities.

    Never in the history of public health has herd immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak, let alone a pandemic,” World Health Organization director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a Monday briefing. “It is scientifically and ethically problematic.”

    The same day Tedros made his latest comments about herd immunity, Trump mischaracterized a statement by another WHO official in order to bolster his position that lockdowns put in place to slow the spread of the coronavirus should be lifted.

    In fact, the WHO has not shifted its position, and has always stated that lockdown restrictions, while sometimes necessary, should be used as a measure of last resort.

    Seizing on that apparent contradiction, the Trump administration convened a call with reporters to promote the idea that the U.S. should look to herd immunity to help put an end to the pandemic, the New York Times reported Wednesday. During that call, two officials who requested anonymity cited a petition called the Great Barrington Declaration, which calls for states to lift coronavirus restrictions for the bulk of American citizens.

    “The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection,” the document states.

    It is unclear how far Trump and his administration will go to push states to adopt a herd immunity approach to the virus, but as his mass campaign rallies have resumed in defiance of some state guidelines, the number of U.S. cases of COVID-19 is on the rise. Over the past two weeks, new cases have risen by 21 percent, according to the New York Times, a statistic that seems lost on the president.

    “Now they say I’m immune. I feel so powerful I’ll walk into that audience,” Trump said at a Monday rally in Florida, adding, “I’ll kiss everyone in that audience.”

    Yet Trump himself seemed to have been persuaded that doing nothing to stem the spread of the coronavirus was unethical. One of his favorite anecdotes over the past several months has been to take credit for reducing COVID-19 deaths that would have resulted in simply letting the virus roam free.

    “Think of the number — potentially 2.2 million people if we did nothing, if we didn’t do the distancing, if we didn’t do all of the things that we’re doing,” Trump said in April.

    At the same time, he has seemed enticed by the example set by Sweden, which refused to enact strong measures to slow the spread of the virus.

    “You’ll develop herd — like a herd mentality,” Trump said during a town hall in Pennsylvania days before he, too, contracted COVID-19. “It’s going to be — it’s going to be herd developed, and that’s going to happen.”

    Herd immunity (not herd mentality) is a tried and true epidemiological concept. A study published Tuesday in the journal Immunity concluded that COVID-19 antibodies could protect a person from reinfection by the same strain of the disease for five to seven months. But in order to achieve herd immunity for COVID-19, the U.S. must either produce vaccine or be content with letting millions more Americans contract the disease and hundreds of thousands more die from it.

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    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Thursday urged Americans to wear masks to fight the coronavirus that put him in intensive care for seven days, and warned the virus is "something to take very seriously."

    Christie was one of a number of people with ties to the White House who tested positive for the coronavirus at around the same time as President Donald Trump.

    "I believed that when I entered the White House grounds, that I had entered a safe zone, due to the testing that and I and many others underwent every day. I was wrong. I was wrong to not wear a mask at the Amy Coney Barrett announcement and I was wrong not to wear a mask at my multiple debate prep sessions with the President and the rest of the team," Christie said in a statement obtained by NBC News.

    The government's top infectious disease doctor, Anthony Fauci, last week called the Rose Garden event, where few attendees wore masks, a "superspreader event."

    The longtime Trump ally said he's now recovered from his illness and appeared to distance himself from the president, who said he felt better that he's felt in decades after getting treated for the virus.

    "No one should be happy to get the virus and no one should be cavalier about being infected or infecting others," Christie said. "It is something to take very seriously. The ramifications are wildly random and potentially deadly."

    He also said public officials "have not treated Americans as adults, who understand truth, sacrifice and responsibility."


    "When you have seven days in isolation in an ICU though, you have time to do a lot of thinking," Christie said, advocating that people "follow CDC guidelines in public no matter where you are and wear a mask to protect yourself and others."

    "Every public official, regardless of party or position, should advocate for every American to wear a mask in public, appropriately socially distance and to wash your hands frequently every day. At the same time, we should be reopening in every corner of this nation under these guidelines," Christie said.

    "I believe that these two steps can bring our country together while our pharmaceutical companies invent the therapeutics and vaccines which will rid us of this virus," he added.

    "While we may seem very divided today, I do believe we can use this public health tragedy to bring us together. It is never too late to start," he said, but "It will take leadership that both challenges and trusts the American people.
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    So Christie isn't as batshit as Cheeto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    So Christie isn't as batshit as Cheeto.
    So it seems. I think he saw the grim reaper sitting on the foot of his bed. Hopefully he keeps singing this new song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    So it seems. I think he saw the grim reaper sitting on the foot of his bed. Hopefully he keeps singing this new song.
    You know they moved heaven and earth to get him well, and he still spent over a week in the ICU...telling. I'm pretty sure you are correct.

    He should get his ass out and stand with Fauci and put out commercials on the dangers and how we should all wear a mask. I am sure Cheeto will be pissed over his recent comments, lets see if Christie walks them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    You know they moved heaven and earth to get him well, and he still spent over a week in the ICU...telling. I'm pretty sure you are correct.

    He should get his ass out and stand with Fauci and put out commercials on the dangers and how we should all wear a mask. I am sure Cheeto will be pissed over his recent comments, lets see if Christie walks them back.
    I hope the Lincoln Project gets on that cause people need to here it. Again and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    I hope the Lincoln Project gets on that cause people need to here it. Again and again.
    They did but on deaf ears of Trump but Biden voters get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    I hope the Lincoln Project gets on that cause people need to here it. Again and again.


    Is Trump voters going to watch stuff from the Lincoln Project no! Sure I agree with them politically except this whole COVID-19 fiasco is about Trump wanting his supporters to take anything as Kool-aid.

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    Anyone that supports either one of these two candidates is an idiot and get what you deserve.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/b...ronavirus.html

    In the latest episode of Eric Bolling’s show from the Sinclair Broadcast Group, “America This Week,” the conservative broadcaster perpetuated misinformation about the origin of the coronavirus pandemic and measures that help slow its spread.

    In the episode, which was posted to several Sinclair station websites this week, Mr. Bolling made claims, which scientists have widely disputed, that the coronavirus was manipulated in a Chinese laboratory. He also questioned the effectiveness of face coverings and lockdowns, despite evidence that they are instrumental in limiting transmissions.

    “It’s damn near certain this virus has to have been altered in a Chinese lab,” Mr. Bolling said in his monologue. “No way this is your routine ‘guy and girlfriend chow down on an uncooked bat turned into a virus.’”

    Mr. Bolling, a former Fox News host, also said that “closing down cities and economies and wearing your tube socks around your face hasn’t slowed the virus down.”

    In an interview on Friday, after the liberal media watchdog group Media Matters for America raised concerns about the episode, Mr. Bolling said the segment was being edited to remove some of his statements before airing this weekend on dozens of Sinclair stations. Sinclair, which is known for its conservative stances, owns or operates nearly 200 television stations across the country and reaches 39 percent of American households.
    Ronn Torossian, a Sinclair spokesman, said in a statement on Friday that Mr. Bolling “did not provide necessary context when providing commentary about the recent rise in new coronavirus cases.”

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    “Eric remains committed to discussing important issues, but in this instance recognizes that his words may be misinterpreted. As a result, we have decided to edit the episode and remove the portion in question,” Mr. Torossian said.

    Mr. Bolling stood by his unsubstantiated claims that Chinese scientists had tampered with the virus. He did not cite studies to support his belief but said, “I read a lot,” adding, “Some of my closest friends are doctors.” On Friday, an online version of the show still included his claims that the virus was altered in a lab.

    Mr. Bolling’s claim followed similar statements by a guest last month on the Fox News show hosted by Tucker Carlson. Scientists have concluded that the coronavirus “is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus” and linked it to bats. Suggestions that the virus was engineered at some point to become more dangerous are “just nonsense,” other scientists said.

    Mr. Bolling has been a conduit for virus-related misinformation before. In a July segment of his Sinclair show, he interviewed the discredited scientist Judy Mikovits, who was featured in a debunked video called “Plandemic.” Ms. Mikovits shared false claims linking Dr. Anthony Fauci, the national infections-disease expert, to the creation of the coronavirus. Sinclair pulled the segment, saying on Twitter that it was “not appropriate to air.”

    In the interview, Mr. Bolling said his comment on face coverings was not meant seriously. “For two years, I’ve worn masks on airplanes,” he added. “I believe in masks. I believe masks save lives, and I always have.”

    President Trump, whom Mr. Bolling is scheduled to interview in a Sinclair town-hall-style event next week, has said of face coverings: “Maybe they’re great, and maybe they’re just good. Maybe they’re not so good.”

    Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said last month that the pandemic could be controlled in six to 12 weeks if all Americans wore face coverings, calling them “the most important, powerful public health tool we have.” The use of masks has also been backed by health experts from the Mayo Clinic Health System; Stanford University; the University of California, San Francisco; and Johns Hopkins Medicine. They say they reduce the number of respiratory droplets expelled into the air and limit the risk of coronavirus exposure.

    Mr. Bolling began hosting “America This Week” last year. He was was ousted from Fox News in 2017 after a report that he had sent lewd photographs via text message to three female colleagues, allegations he denied.


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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...covid-n1244671

    Update 4 members of Mike Pence's staff have been tested positive for COVID-19

    Four of of Vice President Mike Pence's advisers, including his chief of staff and senior political adviser, have tested positive for Covid-19.

    Pence's office said in a statement Saturday night that his chief of staff, Marc Short, "began quarantine" after learning of the diagnosis and was cooperating with a contact-tracing effort.

    “Vice President Pence and Mrs. Pence both tested negative for COVID-19 today, and remain in good health," vice presidential spokesman Devin O'Malley said in the statement.

    “While Vice President Pence is considered a close contact with Mr. Short, in consultation with the White House Medical Unit, the Vice President will maintain his schedule in accordance with the CDC guidelines for essential personnel," he said.

    Pence still plans to travel to North Carolina on Sunday, his office said.

    Additionally, a source familiar with the matter told NBC News that Pence’s senior political adviser, Marty Obst, also tested positive.

    Obst was at the debate in Salt Lake City with Pence Oct. 7, posing maskless with him and others after the event. Obst is not a government employee.

    On Sunday morning, a person familiar with the matter told NBC News that two additional aides tested positive for the coronavirus in recent days.

    The vice president wore a mask Saturday while traveling on Air Force Two for his campaign events in Lakeland and Tallahassee, Florida, and he took it off for his remarks.

    Pence said during the Tallahassee event that he would be on the floor for Monday night’s Senate confirmation vote for Judge Amy Coney Barrett.

    “As vice president I'm President of the Senate. And I'm gonna be in the chair because I wouldn't miss that vote for the world," he said. "And I'll make you a prediction, come this Monday night, Judge Amy Coney Barrett is going to be Justice Amy Coney Barrett. We're gonna fill that seat.”

    Over the last several weeks, Pence has only on occasion worn a face covering, including Friday while early voting indoors.

    At the beginning of October, President Donald Trump announced he had the virus and, after being treated at Walter Reed Medical Center, said he had fully recovered days later.

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    Wow now a Spokesman for a mask company has got a front row seat to the politicizing of N95 Masks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quint75 View Post
    Anyone that supports either one of these two candidates is an idiot and get what you deserve.


    Lookie here, guise, a lurker who came out to play!!


    Here's the way it works, noob. We gets choices, see...and sometimes these choices ain't the greatest, see...but we gotta pick one.

    And anyone who claims to be "intelligent" or a "patriot" an votes for Trump, doesn't know the meaning of those two words.

    Voters, by and large, are uninformed and selfish, greedy and downright ignorant to a fault. They wouldn't recognize their privilege even if it smacked them in the face, daily.

    As a result, we get what we've had the last four years, a douchebag wannabe porn actor, horrifically greedy business "tycoon", amoral sack of dog shit to sit in the Oval Office for the last 4 years.

    I don't vote for myself, I vote for those who need someone on their side.

    I vote for candidates who extend social programs to people who fucking need it.

    I vote to make sure that the kid I take care of in the hospital also has food when he gets home. And if you vote otherwise, you are dog shit with a pulse and you can fucking die with that knowledge.

    I have it good. Good jobs, good pay, days off, healthcare...expensive but still, good. But when I pay more in taxes than a "billionaire businessman", then there is something seriously fucking wrong with this country and the way things are done.

    And so, if they're both so bad, what do you suggest? Both candidates are beholden to donors, and we can thank the High Court in this country for that.

    Neither of our candidates are stellar, but these are our choices. And not voting means fuck you and your ability to complain. If you didn't take part in the process, you don't get to complain about the results.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...796af20f6c3e16

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Mike Pence plans to maintain an aggressive campaign schedule this week despite an apparent outbreak of the coronavirus among his senior aides, the White House says.

    Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, and “a couple of key staff surrounding the vice president” have tested positive for the virus, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said Sunday.

    The vice president, who along with his wife, Karen, tested negative on Sunday, according to his office, is considered a “close contact” of the aides under Centers for Disease Control and Prevention criteria but will not quarantine, his spokesman said.

    Devin O’Malley said Pence decided to maintain his travel schedule “in consultation with the White House Medical Unit” and “in accordance with the CDC guidelines for essential personnel.” Those guidelines require that essential workers exposed to someone with the coronavirus closely monitor for symptoms of COVID-19 and wear a mask whenever around other people.

    O’Malley said Pence and his wife, Karen, both tested negative on Saturday “and remain in good health.”

    President Donald Trump commented on Short early Sunday after his plane landed at Joint Base Andrews, outside Washington. “I did hear about it just now,” he said. “And I think he’s quarantining. Yeah. I did hear about it. He’s going to be fine. But he’s quarantining.”

    Saskia Popescu, an infectious disease expert at George Mason University, called Pence’s decision to travel “grossly negligent” regardless of the stated justification that Pence is an essential worker.

    “It’s just an insult to everybody who has been working in public health and public health response,” she said. “I also find it really harmful and disrespectful to the people going to the rally” and the people on Pence’s own staff who will accompany him.

    “He needs to be staying home 14 days,” she added. “Campaign events are not essential.”

    After a day of campaigning in Florida on Saturday, Pence was seen wearing a mask as he returned to Washington aboard Air Force Two shortly after the news of Short’s diagnosis was made public. He is scheduled to hold a rally on Sunday afternoon in Kinston, North Carolina, with travel planned to Minnesota on Monday and North Carolina once again on Tuesday.

    Pence, who has headed the White House coronavirus task force since late February, has repeatedly found himself in an uncomfortable position balancing political concerns with the administration’s handling the pandemic that has killed more than 220,000 Americans. The vice president has advocated mask-wearing and social distancing, but often does not wear one himself and holds large political events where many people do not wear face-coverings.

    By virtue of his position as vice president, Pence is considered an essential worker. The White House did not address how Pence’s political activities amounted to essential work.

    Short’s diagnosis comes weeks after the coronavirus spread through the White House, infecting Trump, the first lady, and two dozen other aides, staffers and allies.

    Short, Pence’s top aide and one of his closest confidants, did not travel with the vice president on Saturday. Top Pence political adviser Marty Obst tested positive for the coronavirus earlier this week, a person familiar with the matter said.

    Pence’s handling of his exposure to a confirmed positive case stands in contrast to how Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris responded when a close aide and a member of her campaign plane’s charter crew tested positive for the virus earlier this month. She took several days off the campaign trail, citing her desire to act out of an abundance of caution.

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    This version corrects in the news summary that Pence tested negative.

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    https://apnews.com/article/election-...efc324cdeb3a5e

    LONDONDERRY, N.H. (AP) — The coronavirus has reached the upper echelons of the White House again, with an outbreak among aides to Vice President Mike Pence just over a week from Election Day. A top White House official declared: “We’re not going to control the pandemic.”

    Officials on Sunday also scoffed at the notion of Pence dialing back in-person campaigning despite positive tests among several people in his office. Pence, who leads the White House’s coronavirus task force, was back out on the road Sunday and has an aggressive travel schedule planned for the final days of the campaign.

    White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, pressed to explain why the pandemic cannot be reined in, said, “Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu.” He told CNN’s ”State of the Union” that the government was focused on getting effective therapeutics and vaccines to market.

    Pence, who tested negative on Sunday, according to his office, held a rain-soaked early evening rally in Kinston, North Carolina, a state that Trump won in 2016 and is crucial to his reelection hopes.

    The vice president had a shout-out for supporters who braved what he called “this night of tempest, to stand in the rain and stand firm” for Trump. He gave no nod to the coronavirus infection rippling through his staff, and dismissed Democrat Joe Biden’s description of the COVID-19 threat as an unwarranted dose of gloom and doom.

    The president, for his part, rallied backers in New Hampshire and visited an orchard in Levant, Maine, where he signed autographs and assured a crush of mostly unmasked supporters that a “red wave” was coming on Nov. 3. He and first lady Melania Trump wrapped up the busy weekend by hosting costumed children for a socially distanced Halloween trick-or-treating on the White House grounds.

    Biden attended church and participated in a virtual get-out-the-vote concert. He said in a statement that Meadows was effectively waving “the white flag of defeat” and “a candid acknowledgement of what President Trump’s strategy has clearly been from the beginning of this crisis.”

    In a brief exchange with reporters before the orchard visit, Trump demurred when asked if Pence should step off the campaign trail as a precaution. “You’d have to ask him,” Trump said.

    The White House said none of the staff traveling with Trump on Sunday had been in close contact with any individuals in the vice president’s office who had tested positive. But public health experts said that Pence’s decision to keep up in-person campaigning was flouting common sense.

    Lawrence Gostin, a public health expert at Georgetown University’s law school, said Pence in his decision to forgoing quarantine was violating his own task force’s recommendations.

    “It’s one standard for the vice president and another for all the rest of us,” Gostin said.

    The U.S. set a daily record Friday for new confirmed coronavirus infections and nearly matched it Saturday with 83,178, data published by Johns Hopkins University shows. Close to 8.6 million Americans have contracted the coronavirus since the pandemic began, and about 225,000 have died; both totals are the world’s highest. About half the states have seen their highest daily infection numbers so far at some point in October.

    Trump, campaigning in Londonderry, New Hampshire, said the rising rate of infections was nothing to be concerned about. ”You know why we have cases so much?”′ Trump asked a shoulder-to-shoulder crowd. “Because all we do is test.”

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    Entering the final full week before the Nov. 3 election, it’s clear the Trump team remains committed to full-throttle campaigning. Trump himself has resumed a hectic schedule since recovering from his own recent coronavirus case, and planned to campaign Monday in Pennsylvania. Pence will campaign in Minnesota that day and return to North Carolina on Tuesday.

    Despite the rising virus numbers, the White House says the U.S. economy needs to fully reopen and it has tried to counter Biden’s criticism that Trump is not doing enough to contain the worst U.S. public health crisis in more than a century.

    Trump and his aides again on Sunday lashed out on Biden, falsely asserting Biden was determined to lock down the economy, while the president is centering his attention on getting therapies and vaccines to market.

    “We want normal life to resume,” Trump said. “We just want normal life.”

    Biden, in fact, has said he would only shut down the country if that is what government scientists advise. He has said that if elected he would make the case for why a national mask mandate might be necessary and would go to the governors to help increase Americans’ mask-wearing.

    Pence’s office says there are no plans to curtail campaigning. In addition to chief of staff Marc Short, who tested positive Saturday, a “couple” other aides also have also contracted the disease, Meadows said.

    Meadows said Pence will wear a mask — “because the doctors have advised him to do that” — but take it off when he gives a speech, as the vice president did on Sunday in North Carolina.

    Even with Pence’s latest negative test, symptoms, including fever, cough and fatigue, may appear two to 14 days after exposure to the virus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Some asymptomatic individuals test positive two to three days before developing symptoms.

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    The White House says Pence was considered in “close contact” with Short under CDC guidelines. The guidelines require that essential workers exposed to someone with the coronavirus closely monitor for symptoms of COVID-19 and wear a mask whenever around other people.

    After consulting with the White House Medical Unit, Pence intended to maintain his schedule “in accordance with the CDC guidelines for essential personnel,” said Devin O’Malley, a Pence spokesman.

    Meadows sidestepped questions about whether Pence’s campaigning fit into the spirit of the CDC’s guidelines for essential work. “He’s not just campaigning, he’s working,” Meadows said.

    The candidates have demonstrated remarkably different attitudes about what they see as safe behavior in the homestretch of a campaign that, as with all aspects of American life, has been upended by the pandemic.

    Trump emerged from his own illness with even greater certitude that the nation has gone too far with efforts to stem the virus, and has spoken out repeatedly that children should be in school and healthy Americans should get back to normal life with limited restrictions. Biden has relied on virtual events and small, socially-distanced gatherings to make his case to voters.

    “We’re not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation areas,” Meadows said on CNN. He added: “We are making efforts to contain it.”

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    Jaffe reported from Wilmington, Delaware, and Madhani from Washington.

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    Warning there are reports that the Trump Campaign will have a rally in the Reno area and questions over how they will comply with COVID-19 rules is yet to be seen which I doubt will happen

    President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign has once again tapped a privately owned hangar at the Reno Tahoe International airport to host a late-campaign rally in Northern Nevada, this time hosted by Vice President Mike Pence.

    And once again, airport authorities say they’ve “informed the tenant and the Vice President’s security team that there is a 250 person limit on social gatherings, with masks and proper social distancing.”

    All of which raises the specter that Pence’s planned appearance on Thursday could turn into a repeat of Trump’s last-second scramble to secure a new rally venue after airport authorities scuttled a pair of similar events planned in September.

    Gatherings of more than 250 people must have a plan approved by state and local health officials, according to Gov. Steve Sisolak’s latest COVID-containment directive.

    Officials at the Nevada Department of Business and Industry and the Washoe County Health District on Tuesday confirmed they had not yet received such a plan for Pence’s latest Northern Nevada appearance.

    Health district spokesman Scott Oxarart also pointed out that the district is not currently approving plans for events of more than 250 people, “with the exception of case-by-case consideration of outdoor events with fixed seating and strict COVID-19 mitigation measures in place.”

    The Trump campaign did not immediately return requests for comment on how many people were expected to attend Thursday’s event and whether or not it had drawn up a plan in the event that total exceeds 250 people.

    The campaign was forced to rally in Minden last month after Reno airport authorities determined a planned 5,000-person rally at an airport hangar owned by a private company “may not proceed” because it would violate state and local COVID-containment directives.
    Publicly available business filings show Hangar 9, LLC — the company that had agreed to host the event — is co-managed by Ranson Webster, chairman of the right-leaning Nevada Policy Research Institute, and Charles Mathewson, the former chairman of IGT.

    It’s not clear if Webster owns the hangar slated to host Pence’s visit on Thursday. Airport officials did not name the hangar’s owner in a statement to the Reno Gazette Journal. Webster did not immediately return requests for comment.
    Airport authorities in September warned Webster that the terms of the company's hangar lease required that operations do not interfere with or impede the operations of the airport. In a statement, the airport said the possibility of political demonstrations and counter-demonstrations near active runways was "a cause of serious concern."

    The decision prompted outrage from Webster and other Trump supporters who accused officials of canceling the event for partisan political reasons.

    Nevada OSHA on Monday slapped Douglas County and the company that manages the Minden-Tahoe International Airport with more than $5,000 in fines for eventually agreeing to host the event.

    Xtreme Manufacturing, which hosted an indoor rally for the president, also was fined $3,000 from city officials in Henderson. The company was accused of six separate business license violations, including running afoul of Sisolak’s statewide ban on large gatherings.

    It’s unclear what consequences Carson City, it’s airport or the Trump campaign could face for violating those rules during last week’s rally in the state capital.

    Days ahead of the rally, the Carson City Health District referred questions about the campaign’s large gathering plan to the City Manager’s office, which said it had “no information to share” on the rally.

    Nevada's Department of Business and Industry later confirmed they too had not received a plan from the Trump campaign ahead of the event.

    At least for now, Pence plans to speak at 5 p.m. Thursday at the Reno-Tahoe International Airport.



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    Here is an update on Regeneron Yes the one Trump took

    Regeneron Pharmaceuticals has decided to halt enrollment of very sick patients with COVID-19 in its trial studying antibody cocktail REGN-COV2, a treatment previously touted as a “cure” by President Donald Trump after he received the experimental therapy for his COVID-19 infection in October.

    The decision to halt critically ill patients was made in response to Regeneron’s independent safety board finding a potential safety signal and an unfavorable risk-benefit profile of the monoclonal antibody therapy in a subgroup of patients requiring high-flow oxygen or mechanical ventilation. These patients are generally sicker and hospitalized because they are in the advanced stages of the disease.

    The Tarrytown, N.Y.-based pharmaceutical company says it is blinded to the trial data. As such, the company did not provide specific details in their Friday morning statement on what the safety signal was or in which group experienced the unexpected event. The hold on enrollment will stay in place until the independent data monitoring committee can collect and evaluate further data on severely ill patients currently enrolled in Regeneron’s trial.

    Regeneron also says it has informed the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) of the safety signal and the decision to halt new enrollment of critically ill patients. The agency is currently evaluating the therapy for a possible emergency use authorization (EUA) in mild-to-moderate patients with COVID-19 who are at high risk for poor outcomes.

    While patients with severe disease will be excluded from the trial from this point forward, Regeneron will continue enrolling other types of patients. These will include non-hospitalized patients as well as hospitalized patients who require either no or minimal levels of supplemental oxygen.

    Under recommendations from Regeneron’s safety board, outpatients will not be affected by the enrollment hold, allowing the company to continue evaluating longer safety and efficacy of REGN-COV2 in this potentially less-vulnerable population.

    REGN-COV2 is also under investigation in the UK-based RECOVERY trial, which includes hospitalized patients. Another study is examining the use of REGN-COV2 for as a prophylactic measure for people at high COVID-19 exposure risk.

    News of the enrollment hold immediately follows positive findings from Regeneron’s ongoing Phase II/III trial, which show REGN-COV2 significantly reduced viral load and need for additional medical care in 524 outpatients with COVID-19. Similar findings in 275 non-hospitalized patients were previously reported and provided hope that the therapy could be fast-tracked to EUA approval.

    Regeneron recently reported it currently has only enough doses of REGN-COV2 for 50,000 people. Additionally, the company says it has an approximate manufacturing capacity of just 50,000 doses per month. Since the current numbers of available doses are insufficient to meet the demand, the antibody drug will likely be administered directly as a preventative agent for healthcare workers and at-risk patients, like the elderly and patients with comorbidities and/or immunosuppression.

    Just three days before Regeneron’s enrollment hold announcement, Eli Lilly and Company said it also halted its clinical trial of its antibody therapy, LY-CoV555, in hospitalized patients with COVID-19. LY-CoV555 is a potent neutralizing IgG1 monoclonal antibody, and just like Regeneron’s REGN-COV2, the therapy has since now been considered unlikely to help hospitalized patients with COVID-19 recover from advanced disease.

    Lilly is continuing to study their antibody therapy in patients with mild-to-moderate COVID-19 as well as in patients with even less advanced disease. Lilly has also requested an EUA for LY-CoV555 based on data suggesting the antibody cocktail helps non-hospitalized patients.

    Unlike Regeneron, Lilly said it can supply hundreds of thousands of doses of its therapy, per an agreement with the U.S. government. This $375 million agreement will help Lilly to supply up to 300,000 vials of LY-CoV555, with the potential for purchase of an additional 650,000 vials. Patients will face no out-of-pocket costs for the treatment, if approved and distributed.

    https://www.biospace.com/article/reg...-ii-iii-trial/

    Results from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals’ ongoing Phase II/III trial shared Thursday with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) show the company’s antibody cocktail, REGN-COV2, significantly reduced viral load and need for additional medical visits in outpatients with COVID-19. The positive findings were shared as part of the company’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) submission for its investigational COVID-19 therapy.

    “Today's analysis, involving more than 500 additional patients, prospectively confirms that REGN-COV2 can indeed significantly reduce viral load and further shows that these viral reductions are associated with a significant decrease in the need for further medical attention," George D. Yancopoulos, M.D., Ph.D., Regeneron’s president and chief scientific officer, said in a press release.

    The company’s investigational COVID-19 antibody cocktail consists of two non-competing antibodies that bind non-competitively to the receptor binding domain of spike protein on the SARS-CoV-2 virus. This may reduce the ability of mutant viruses to circumvent therapy.

    Previously, the company reported positive findings from a descriptive analysis of its randomized, double-blind trial involving its first 275 patients dosed with REGN-COV2. Results from this analysis showed the therapy also reduced viral levels and improved symptoms in non-hospitalized patients with COVID-19. The greatest improvements were observed in patients who did not have an immune response prior to therapy. "The first job of an antiviral therapeutic drug is to lower the viral load, and our initial data in 275 patients strongly suggested that the REGN-COV2 antibody cocktail could lower viral load and thereby potentially improve clinical outcomes,” Yancopoulos said.

    The new findings shared with the FDA involve an additional 524 patients and show the trial met all of its first nine virologic endpoints as well as the key clinical endpoint of COVID-19-related medically attended visits.

    For the primary endpoint, there was a 0.68 log10 copies/mL greater reduction in the mean daily change in viral load through day seven in patients with high viral load treated with REGN-COV2 compared with patients treated with placebo (p<0.0001). Patients treated with REGN-COV2 also had a greater than 10-fold reduction in viral load by day five compared with patients treated with placebo.

    In addition, the mean daily reduction in viral load through day seven in patients with detectable virus at baseline was greater in patients treated with REGN-COV2 (p=0.0003). Patients who had a higher viral load at baseline and/or no detectable antibodies at baseline experienced greater benefit from Regeneron’s antibody cocktail, the company noted.

    Overall, in 799 patients in the trial, treatment with REGN-COV2 was associated with a 57% reduction in COVID-19-related medical visits through day 29, which was significantly greater than that observed in the placebo group (p=0.024).

    In the overall population, patients with one or more risk factor for poor outcomes, including overweight and having a comorbidity, experienced a significantly greater reduction in COVID-19-related medical visits if they were treated with REGN-COV2 (p=0.0065). The reduction in the need for medical visits related to the virus was 72% in patients treated with the antibody cocktail.

    "We continue to see the strongest effects in patients who are most at risk for poor outcomes due to high viral load, ineffective antibody immune response at baseline, or pre-existing risk factors,” Yancopoulos said.

    Regeneron’s antibody cocktail has been hot news for months, but received a bolstering in publicity after President Trump, who received a COVID-19 diagnosis in October, received eight grams of the experimental drug early in the course of the infection.

    Sean Conley, President Trump’s physician, stated several days later that the president’s lab results showed “detectable levels” of antibodies in the blood. While these findings were met with skepticism, President Trump urged regulators in a Twitter video message to approve the EUA for Regeneron as well as Eli Lilly’s antibody therapies.

    While the new results from Regeneron’s Phase II/III trial appear promising, the company has stated it currently has only 50,000 available for public distribution and an approximate manufacturing capacity of 50,000 per month. If approved, the therapy will likely be initially administered as a prophylactic therapy for at-risk patients, including the elderly, patients with comorbidities, and medical personnel.

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