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    Charges:

    -Driving while using cell phone
    -Driving outside of lane when it wasn't safe
    -Careless driving

    All misdemeanor charges. No hit-and-run or second-degree manslaughter.

    Sovell says Ravnsborg was on his phone BEFORE the crash, not during it. She says he was driving outside the lane during the crash.

    Sovell said his action didn't meet the definition of "reckless" needed for second-degree manslaughter, which is a higher standard than "negligence."

    Sovell said vehicular homicide doesn't work since Ravnsborg wasn't intoxicated.

    Attorney Emily Sovell states that all 3 charges for @SDAttorneyGen
    Ravnsborg are misdemeanor and have a maximum of 30 days in county jail and/or a $500 fine.
    more at link
    https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/lo...home-top-story
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    SD Rep. @WillMortenson
    a Republican from Pierre, has filed two articles of impeachment which would remove South Dakota AG Jason Ravnsborg from his office. The resolution has bipartisan support- Democrat @RepJamieSmith
    of Sioux Falls is sponsoring it
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    SD Rep. @WillMortenson
    a Republican from Pierre, has filed two articles of impeachment which would remove South Dakota AG Jason Ravnsborg from his office. The resolution has bipartisan support- Democrat @RepJamieSmith
    of Sioux Falls is sponsoring it
    I am disgusted with the charges, but not surprised. I hope they can at least impeach and remove him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I am disgusted with the charges, but not surprised. I hope they can at least impeach and remove him.
    Yeah. Not holding my breath, and if they do remove him our covidiot gov will get to pick his replacement, so that's not good news, but better then nothing I guess.

    Victims family is planning to sue, so the states insurance will have to pay up, but I can't say as I blame them.
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    Last edited by puzzld; 02-24-2021 at 07:04 AM.
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    http://dakotafreepress.com/2021/02/2...comment-283704


    Son of a... go to minute 55 in the second video. At 10:20 p.m. the night of the accident, Jason Ravnsborg's phone log shows he checked his Yahoo mail. At 10:20:49, he accessed Dakota Free Press. A minute later, he checked Real Clear Politics. A minute later, he checked Just the News and accessed something related to an anti-Biden film called "Riding the Dragon." At 10:24, he called 911.

    After the investigators show Ravnsborg the log, he insists he set his phone down to get rid of distractions and think about cases before the accident happened. He insists he was not looking at his phone "when it happened." He does not clearly recall looking at the information on his phone, but he insists he clearly remembers setting the phone down, shutting the radio off, looking at his speedometer, "and then wham."

    Second video, 1 hr 3 min, investigator notes that Ravnsborg had been called out before for tweeting while driving. Ravnsborg insists, "I set the phone down. I know I did."
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Video 2, 1:06:40: Ravnsborg says, "Like I said, I glance at headlines, at best."
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Ravnsborg insists he was getting rid of distractions so he could think about two cases" while driving" the moment before he hit and killed a man he did not see on the road on which his eyes were not.
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Video 2, 1:08:40: Ravnsborg admits he was looking at articles on his phone on the drive up to Redfield earlier in the day. He had a couple of books on tape, but he didn't like either of them.
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Now the horror unfolds: Video 2, 1:11:00: investigator asks Ravnsborg if he saw the glasses next to where Ravnsborg had looked for and checked in detail his insurance card Ravnsborg had the wherewithal to notice that the first insurance card he grabbed was a year out of date, but, Ravnsborg says no, he didn't see the glasses until the investigator showed them earlier.

    "They're Joe's glasses' so that means his face came through the windshield."
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Ravnsborg insists he did not see the man, did not see the glasses of the man he killed in his car.
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Video 2 1:13:40: "One of the other things we know, Jason, is we know you weren't in the middle of the road. You were on the shoulder."

    The investigators says they have three witnesses who said Boever was in the grass.
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    1:14:32: "part of the evidence that is really convincing is that there is bone scrape on the inside of the rumble bars. That's where his leg was likely broke. That's where the pieces were at."

    The other investigator says the man was in his windshield, dragged along and lays out pretty much the gruesome scenario I deduced from the crime scene evidence that Boever's cousin Nick Nemec provided us right after the accident.
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Video 2, 1:16:30: "We know that his face came through your windshield. We also have the imprint on the hood where his body, or at least part of his body, likely was riding. At some point in time he rolls off, takes out the mirror, and slides into the ditch."
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    V2 1:17:10: Did you see the flashlight he was carrying? We went out and tested it. We picked up the flashlight. The flashlight was still on when Joe and I got to the scene. It had not been touched. We picked it up, and the light was still in. We talked to a witness that had just seen the light, had seen him walking with the light. After the crash, did you see that light in the dark?

    The flashlight was on. Joe Boever was carrying a functional, illuminated flashlight when Jason Ravnsborg hit him on the shoulder of the road and killed him.
    Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-02-23

    Jason tells the investigators he is absolutely certain he did not see the flashlight glowing in the ditch. The investigators say it was hard to miss when they did their reconstructions in the dark. "That flashlight was like a beacon."
    A lot more at the link
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    And of course with the delay we'll never know what his BAC was on top of looking at his phone. How convenient that he decided to be responsible right before he accidentally killed someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    And of course with the delay we'll never know what his BAC was on top of looking at his phone. How convenient that he decided to be responsible right before he accidentally killed someone.
    A lot of people are calling for his job, his law license, planning to file lawsuits... all with good cause. People want the sheriff to step down too. But I haven't heard anyone calling the DA that filed the misdemeanor charges to answer questions about any of this. It's clear that he was driving distracted. It's clear that we'll never know if he was drunk or high. (People at the event he attended said he wasn't drinking, but hey my trust that those folks were being 100% forthright is shaky.

    It is all too convenient, as you say. Shameless.
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    Victim's glasses found in car of South Dakota AG who said he hit a deer

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/24/victim...he-hit-a-deer/

    South Dakota's attorney general ' who said he hit a deer after fatally striking a pedestrian last year ' allegedly had the victim's glasses inside his car, according to newly-released interviews.

    The state's Department of Public Safety on Tuesday released recordings of investigators questioning Jason Ravnsborg about the Sept. 12 crash that left 55-year-old Joseph Boever dead.

    The footage shows how, during a Sept. 14 interview, detectives told Ravnsborg that they had discovered a pair of broken glasses on the front passenger floorboard of his vehicle.

    During a second sit-down on Sept. 30, interviewers asked about the glasses again, telling Ravnsborg that they had belonged to the victim.

    'They're Joe's glasses,' an agent says, referring to Boever. 'So that means his face came through your windshield.'

    Upon hearing that, Ravnsborg looked down and sighed deeply, before shaking his head, the footage shows.

    'I did not see those glasses until you showed them to me,' he said.

    The agent told Ravnsborg that 'the only way for them to get there is through the windshield.'


    'His face was in your windshield, Jason. Think about that.'

    Ravnsborg maintained that he hadn't seen the glasses until investigators showed them to him ' and that he truly didn't realize he'd hit a person at the time of the crash.

    'I did not see him. I did not see anything,' Ravnsborg insisted. 'I did not know it was a human until the next day.'

    An investigator replied that: 'You think you had an idea it was something other than a deer, though''

    'I just believed it was a deer.' Ravnsborg replied. 'I do.'

    After the crash, Ravnsborg told authorities that he thought he had plowed his 2011 Ford Taurus into a deer or another large animal as he drove on US Highway 14 at about 10:30 p.m.

    He was on his way home from a GOP fundraiser at Rooster's Bar and Grill, where attendees were offered the chance to win a handgun engraved with then-President Trump's name, according to the South Dakota GOP's website.

    The 44-year-old Republican was charged in the incident last week and faces three counts of careless driving, operating a motor vehicle while using a mobile electronic device and veering out of his lane.

    Authorities said the evidence didn't support more serious felony raps, and that Ravnsborg was not intoxicated at the time of the incident.

    Ravnsborg, who was elected to his first term in 2018, was distracted when he swerved into Boever, who was walking on the highway's shoulder, according to crash investigators.

    South Dakota House lawmakers began impeachment proceedings against Ravnsborg on Tuesday, following the release of the interviews and other investigative materials.

    Lawmakers argued in the impeachment resolution that Ravnsborg should be removed from office for 'his crimes or misdemeanors in office causing the death' of Boever.

    Gov. Kristi Noem, also a Republican, called for Ravnsborg to resign shortly before the impeachment resolution was filed.

    'Now that the investigation has closed and charges have been filed, I believe the Attorney General should resign,' she tweeted. 'I have reviewed the material we are releasing, starting today, and I encourage others to review it as well.'

    But Ravnsborg's will not be stepping down, according to his spokesman Mike Deaver.

    'As an attorney and a Lt. Colonel in the Army Reserves, AG Ravnsborg has fought for the rule of law and personal liberties and would hope that he is afforded the same right and courtesy,' Deaver said in a statement.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...fatal-n1258938

    Judge stops Gov. Kristi Noem from releasing records in AG's fatal crash

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    https://twitter.com/jayfug/status/1365391509466583041

    We're usually a fairly divided state. Rs and Ds and Ls don't see things the same way for the most part. But we all seem pretty united in the idea the Ravnsborg needs to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...fatal-n1258938
    Judge stops Gov. Kristi Noem from releasing records in AG's fatal crash
    https://twitter.com/jayfug/status/1365415006599282689
    The Ravnsborg videos were taken down, but not before probably half the state had watched them and potentially downloaded them (I'm only partially joking here). (24/x)
    Just one of the places you can find the "removed" videos has 22K views.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK..._cfRpCv4LTdWf4
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    https://twitter.com/jayfug/status/1365415006599282689

    Just one of the places you can find the "removed" videos has 22K views.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK..._cfRpCv4LTdWf4
    Good. Everyone should watch them!

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    Gov. Kristi Noem regularly extols the virtues of transparency, but when the light shines in her direction, our opaque guv is no Ms. Cellophane.

    The most recent example is Noem?s refusal to disclose security expenses on junkets across the U.S. ?representing? the people of South Dakota. Never mind that her representation isn?t sought or required in Georgia, Florida, Texas or other states. The trips, to be clear, are all about Noem (seen above with Ravnsborg in a photo from Dakota Radio Group) and her political ambitions. But mum?s the word on security costs, even to ranking members of state appropriations committees.

    All of which is strange when more than three hours of investigatory tapes were posted online on Feb. 23. The tapes became all the buzz. They showed a pair of North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigation special agents grilling South Dakota Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg about his driving on the evening of Sept. 12 when he ran down Joe Boever of Highmore.

    In his 911 emergency call, Ravnsborg told the operator he ?hit something.? Hyde County Sheriff Mike Volek arrived at the scene and took the accident report. Ravnsborg borrowed the sheriff?s personal car and drove home while his car was towed away.

    Somehow, all involved missed Boever, whose damaged and lifeless body was found the next day. No blood-alcohol test was taken until nearly 15 hours later. The accident reports conjured stomach-churning images of an injured man left to die alone in a roadside ditch.

    In mid-February, Ravnsborg was finally charged with three class 2 misdemeanors in Boever?s death. Everything about this case has had the odor of deception and cover-up, and last week the governor?s office added to the stink.

    On Feb. 23, Noem asked for Ravnsborg?s resignation. Later that same day, her office posted the shocking and unprecedented interrogation videos.

    The thudding noise that followed the video release was the collective sound of reporters? jaws hitting their desktops. Prior to retirement, I spent nearly 10 years as a reporter in South Dakota and double that time elsewhere and I?ve never seen this level of disclosure in an active case. I?m certain most colleagues would agree.

    Lately, reporters are hard-pressed to get the timely release of the names of those in auto crashes, never mind more substantive information. South Dakota government is not as transparent as some might think.

    Noem has made it no secret that, like her orange-haired mentor, she?s at war with the press for its alleged unfair coverage of her and her administration, but she has no problem using the press for her own purposes.

    Regardless of one?s feelings about Ravnsborg?s part in Boever?s death, the latter?s family as well as the attorney general deserve their day in court.

    Instead of letting matters play out in a court of law, Noem has injected herself and tainted the process.

    Soon after the video release, Ravnsborg attorney Tim Rensch of Rapid City called Noem?s actions unfair and prejudicial and filed a motion in Hyde County court to prevent disclosure of criminal investigation information. On Feb. 25, retired Sixth Circuit Judge John Brown upheld that motion and ordered Noem to remove all video postings and not to produce or release to the public any further information about the case.

    Noem?s actions can?t be excused on the basis of ignorance or even stupidity. Hyde County Deputy State?s Attorney Emily Sovell asked Noem not to release the videos but she did so anyway.

    All of which begs the question, ?Why did she choose to taint the Ravnsborg-Boever case and ignore South Dakota?s legal processes??

    The answer lies in Noem?s populist thinking.

    Ravnsborg, now facing impeachment after the filing of charges in the Boever case, has become a statewide pariah. With public sentiment rising against the attorney general, Noem chose to inflame that sentiment and ride the righteous wave. She decided to pile on, and to hell with the law.

    Noem had every right to request the AG?s resignation, he had become an embarrassment, but she couldn?t leave it at that. Instead, she chose to abuse her power.

    Her interference will not serve the Boever family well.

    The only thing transparent in this case is how the governor has ignored the law and used the tragic death of a citizen to serve her own ambitious agenda.
    https://www.sdstandardnow.com/home/n...-investigation
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