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    Jumping to conclusions here, but I guess these NFL players didn't save their BIG paychecks for a rainy (coronavirus) day.
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    My friend works at a Mavericks. The other night a couple of women came in with 1/2 dozen kids. Let them run all over the store touching things, kids are sniffy and snotty and coughing, as kids do. Friend asked if one of the women couldn't pay for the gas and make purchases for the whole carload, while the other one took the kids back to the car to wait. The commenced... but at least friend didn't get shot or punched. She did spend the rest of her shift wiping down candy bars and anything else the party touched.
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    What is this shit I'm hearing that COVID isn't easily spread through contaminated surfaces? I thought it lived on surfaces for days?

    I don't even know what to believe anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    What is this shit I'm hearing that COVID isn't easily spread through contaminated surfaces? I thought it lived on surfaces for days?

    I don't even know what to believe anymore.
    I swear, I have heard so many things (like it's not even airborne) that contradict everything I have learned about it. It's so hard to know what is true and what isn't. I am still going to continue acting as if it's super contagious in every way. Better safe than sorry.


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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...id=recommended

    A man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after opening fire on a Waffle House employee who told him he needed to wear a mask, authorities in Colorado said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    What is this shit I'm hearing that COVID isn't easily spread through contaminated surfaces? I thought it lived on surfaces for days?

    I don't even know what to believe anymore.
    Outside. If it's out in the sunshine it seems to be much less contagious. Inside still considered to be risky. Or so I've heard.
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    Social distancing is a joke.
    My brother and his gf are in town so we went out to eat.
    We were sitting outside on this super long bench and this family sat less than 4 feet from my baby's carrier. There was still room on the bench much further down. I kept wanting to move, but my husband acted like I was dumb for freaking out.
    Also, this restaurant said they were doing limited seating and following the 6 feet apart rule.
    Yeah right. We were sat outside right next to another table. Also, every table inside was filled.
    I think Governor Kemp should have to go to each business and personally train them for several weeks on the reopening guidelines.
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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9513346.html

    Disgraced former British doctor Andrew Wakefield is at the forefront of efforts by anti-vaccine activists in the US to use the coronavirus pandemic to try and persuade Americans vaccines are unsafe.

    As the number of global infections from the coronavirus passes 4.3 million and the death toll approaches 300,000, dozens of drug companies and nonprofits are searching for a vaccine. Most officials agree access to a safe and effective treatment is the only way to end the pandemic, restore public confidence and restart the economy.

    Yet the virus and the search for a vaccine are being used as a rallying cry by activists who claim, contrary to the evidence, that vaccines are unsafe, that they can cause autism, and that the likes of Bill Gates, co-founder of the Gates Foundation, are part of a global, self-serving partnership to hype the dangers of the disease and gain financially from finding a vaccine.

    Last month, activists held an online “Health Freedom Summit” at which Wakefield and other prominent figures in the anti-vaccine world spoke, denouncing vaccines and suggesting people were exaggerating the danger represented by Covid-19.

    The summit was organised by Alana Newman and Stephanie Lind, who said they brought together 30 activists, writers and medical professionals.

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    According to The Washington Post, Wakefield told those watching: “One of the main tenets of the marketing of mandatory vaccination has been fear. And never have we seen fear exploited in the way that we do now with the coronavirus infection.”




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    He added: “We are seeing a destruction of the economy, a destruction of people and families, and unprecedented violations of health freedom. And it’s all based upon a fallacy.”

    Newman, who has three children, told The Independent that if a vaccine for the coronavirus was found, she would not take it herself or give it to her children. If they became infected, she said she would be rather take therapeutics, which she claimed included a high dose of vitamin C, and the controversial anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, which Donald Trump has touted as a treatment, despite his own experts saying there is little evidence it works.

    “We’re not in this for money. We’re trying to keep our kids healthy,” said Newman, who lives in Louisiana.




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    “If they don’t want it, you can’t force them to take it. It’s medical rape. It’s not cool to force people to inject something into their bodies or the bodies of their children against their will. You’re going to get a war if you try to do that.”

    Asked if she was talking about peaceful protests or actual violence, she said: “Americans are prepared to fight physically for things that they feel are important.”


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    The campaign against vaccines is nothing new, yet it has gained more traction since Trump was elected to office. During a Republican Party primary debate in 2015, the then candidate raised doubts about the safety of vaccines, saying: “You take this little, beautiful baby and you pump – I mean it looks just like it’s meant for a horse, not for a child.”

    After he was elected, Trump met with four high profile anti-vaccine campaigners at his estate in Florida, inducing Wakefield. For a period, it appeared Trump was set to announce a commission into vaccine safety, which was to be chaired by another anti-vaccine activist, Robert F Kennedy.

    Wakefield is known in the UK as the paediatrician who in 1998 used a press conference called to publicise a paper published in The Lancet, to claim researchers had found a link between autism and the MMR vaccine, given to children to guard against measles, mumps, and rubella.

    The claims caused a firestorm. Trust in the vaccine and its subsequent use plunged. Yet other experts were unable to match the results. The Lancet later retracted the paper and Wakefield was subsequently found guilty by the British General Medical Council (GMC) of three dozen charges, including dishonesty and abuse of children, and struck off the medical register.

    Twenty years on, Wakefield has remade himself in the US, where he lives in Texas, and continues to press his debunked claims. He does so despite overwhelming evidence and the publication of more than 18 peer-reviewed papers that found no link.

    The Centres for Disease Control (CDC), the US’s pre-eminent health body, says vaccines are safe and that only a small number of children, such as those known to have a weakened immune system, should not get the MMR jab.

    Wakefield has been linked to several outbreaks of measles in the US, including one in 2018 among the Somali-American population of Minneapolis, to whom he spoke and showed his film Vaxxed, which claims to expose a case of fraud at the CDC.

    Other activists are also using the pandemic as a chance to push their anti-vaccine message. Ty and Charlene Bollinger, from Oregon, have made a series of films in which they claim vaccines are dangerous.

    In episode nine of The Truth About Vaccines, they claim Gates, 64, the former Microsoft CEO and co-founder of the Gates Foundation, is set to gain financially by the discovery of a vaccine. They also suggest the public is being misled about the true death toll from the virus.

    The couple did not immediately respond to enquiries. Wakefield also did not respond to questions. In a 2018 interview he told The Independent: “I was discredited in the eyes of those who wanted to see me discredited. In other words, those who had an interest in maintaining the status quo.”

    Mark Suzman, CEO of the Gates Foundation, said in a statement, he was concerned about “conspiracy theories being spread online and the damage they could cause to public health”.

    “At a time like this, when the world is facing an unprecedented health and economic crisis, it’s distressing that there are people spreading misinformation when we should all be looking for ways to collaborate and save lives,” he said. “Right now, one of the best things we can do to stop the spread of Covid-19 is spread the facts.”

    Washington state has emerged as one of the front lines in the debate about vaccines. Until last year, parents could claim one of three exemptions to demand their child not be given the MMR vaccine and still attend state schools.

    Yet amid an outbreak of measles in Clark County on the southwest border with Oregon, state legislators passed a law stopping a parent citing personal or philosophical reasons for their child to be exempt. Medical exemptions are still permitted.

    State legislator Monica Stonier, one of the sponsors of the bill and whose district includes the Washington state city of Vancouver, which was struck by the measles outbreak, said it was frustrating that people were seeking to undermine efforts to try and combat the pandemic.

    “They talk about health freedom. I don’t have any problems with that except when it undermines the freedom of others,” she said. “People feel the government should not be telling them what they should be doing to stay healthy, and certainly not mandating a vaccine. However, in the absence of herd immunity in a global pandemic, the broader community, which include [people] that have compromised immune systems, its freedoms are highly imposed upon. For some reason that is lost in the conversation.”




    Damn Andrew Wakefield is now named as a leader of the COVID-19 conspiracy theory.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/5220726002/

    Now 100k Deaths are reported in the USA.

    Coronavirus deaths in the United States have surpassed 100,000, more than any other country in the world, according to the Johns Hopkins University data dashboard.

    The death toll has led to one somber question: What could the country's leaders have done to prevent this from happening?

    While many doctors, scientists and epidemiologists may have their own answers, the truth is that not much was known about COVID-19 when U.S. cases were first recorded in February. The models, studies and data we have now were simply nonexistent three to four months ago, which made it difficult to understand what we were up against.

    When combating a new disease, information is everything. Here are 10 facts we wish we would have known 100 days ago.
    1. The virus was spreading faster than we realized

    SARS-CoV-2 is an extremely transmissible virus, as models and reports from China have made clear.

    Similar to influenza, the coronavirus can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air.

    However, one key difference is that COVID-19 can also "spread through the airborne route," according to Johns Hopkins Medicine. This means tiny droplets remaining in the air could infect someone even after the sick person isn't around, its website said.

    The coronavirus incubation period, the time between infection and the appearance of symptoms, is also longer. Influenza's incubation period is about three days, while the coronavirus is about five days. More research is needed to confirm if it's possible to shed the virus presymptomatically, but a study form China published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature found that patients were more contagious one or two days before symptoms appeared.

    "This damn virus is going to keep going until it infects everybody it possibly can," Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, said May 11 during a meeting with the USA TODAY Editorial Board. "It surely won’t slow down until it hits 60 to 70%" of the population, the number that would create herd immunity and halt the spread of the virus.

    Early studies from China have also indicated the R0 (pronounced R-nought), or the number of people one sick person can infect, was as high as 5.7 in late January. It's important to note that R0 is not a constant number.

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    2. The virus can live on surfaces for days, but it's not easily spread that way

    While respiratory droplets continue to be the virus' preferred method of transmission, researchers discovered that it could also live on surfaces for days introducing another possibility for infection.

    A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in March found that the coronavirus could be detected up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has always warned that "it may be possible" to become infected with the coronavirus by touching contaminated surfaces or objects.

    It just "does not spread easily" in that manner, the agency now says.

    "COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads," says the CDC's recently updated guidelines. "It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads."

    Although the likelihood of infection is minimal, the NEJM study increased hand hygiene awareness and underscored the importance of not touching your eyes, nose and mouth.

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    3. Pets can test positive, too

    As coronavirus cases climbed, another COVID-19-related concern came to light: What about my pets? Although animal transmission is still unclear, officials have reported a few cases.

    The most famous case was reported out of the Bronx Zoo. Nadia, a 4-year-old Malayan tiger, was tested after her sister Azul, two Amur tigers and three African lions developed a dry cough. Officials believed the animals became sick after being exposed to a zoo employee who was "actively shedding virus."

    A few weeks later, a pug from North Carolina tested positive for COVID-19, possibly the first dog in the United States to be diagnosed with the virus. The family said their pet, Winston, didn't display any severe symptoms, but he was coughing a lot and didn't eat his breakfast one morning.

    Both Nadia and Winston have since recovered.

    While a study published May 13 found that cats can get infected by the coronavirus and transmit it to other cats, most veterinarians say there isn't too much for owners to worry about when it comes to the family pet and the coronavirus.

    Jessica Romine, DVM specialist in small animal internal medicine at Specialty and Emergency Pet Hospital in Southfield, Michigan, said the risk of any pet having a severe case of the coronavirus, the way humans are experiencing, is low.

    "There seems to be no evidence that pets can be giving it to people, so they shouldn't be a risk for them licking us or getting it from them," she said. "If anything, it would be the other way around, that a sick person could give it to their own cat or dog potentially."
    4. People can shed the virus without any symptoms

    Another late discovery was the possibility of transmission via asymptomatic patients, or people who are infected with the virus but don't exhibit any symptoms.

    Mass testing at a state prison in Goldsboro, North Carolina, found that more than 90% of the newly diagnosed inmates displayed no symptoms, meaning the deadly virus could have remained hidden had the state followed federal guidelines that largely reserve testing for people displaying common symptoms.

    “We would never have known,” North Carolina Department of Public Safety spokesman John Bull said.

    According to officials at Marion Correctional Institution in Ohio, 152 prisoners were tested in one dormitory and 39% tested positive for COVID-19 even though they displayed no symptoms.

    Experts quickly realized scanning, testing and public regulations needed to be changed to accommodate the possibility that people can transmit the virus without having any common symptoms.
    5. Wearing masks: CDC said no, then yes

    This led to changing mask recommendations.

    For months, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention urged the mass public not to wear a mask unless they were sick or caring for a COVID-19 patient, citing concerns about supply and effectiveness.

    They reversed that guidance in early April. Now, the CDC recommends people wear homemade or cloth masks in public.

    "With increasing evidence for asymptomatic and presymptomatic transmission of COVID-19, the argument for wearing a face covering is becoming more compelling," said Dr. Robert Glatter, emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.

    Officials recommend wearing masks in public settings where social distancing measures are difficult to maintain, such as grocery stores and pharmacies. Many cities and states require masks in public, including New York, New Jersey and Los Angeles.

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    https://abc7.com/health/when-will-we...cases/6217478/

    SAN FRANCISCO -- Health officials have long been warning of a second wave of coronavirus cases to come sometime in the fall, but a global spike may come even sooner.

    While new infections may be on the decline in Europe, Asia and North America, the World Health Organization's Dr. Mike Ryan warned that trend may change with loosened restrictions.

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    Ryan predicted we may see a "second peak" even before the expected second wave in the fall.

    "We need also to be cognizant of the fact that the disease can jump up at any time. We cannot make assumptions that just because the disease is on the way down now, it is going to keep going down," he said. "We may get a second peak in this (first) wave."

    He advised leaders to "continue to put in place the public health and social measures, the surveillance measures, the testing measures and a comprehensive strategy to ensure that we continue on a downwards trajectory and we don't have an immediate second peak," as reported by Reuters.

    In addition to a potential more imminent peak, epidemiologists also believe we'll see a wave of new COVID-19 infections in the fall and winter, as is typical with other strains of coronavirus.

    Marc Lipsitch, a Harvard epidemiology professor, said in an interview with the American Medical Association he expects warm, summer weather to contribute to a decline in coronavirus transmission, but only by about 20%.

    "That's only enough to slow it down, but not enough to stop it," said Lipsitch. "We will have a harder time controlling coronavirus in the fall ... and we will all be very tired of social distancing and other tactics. The hard thing will be to keep enough of it to protect our ICUs and keep the number of cases from flaring up."

    In California, Gov. Gavin Newsom has emphasized the state is prepared to return to stricter stay-at-home measures if the rate of COVID-19 transmission increases.

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    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/an-...d-19-quackery/

    A partial list of COVID-19, SARS-COV-2 quackery that has come out since the pandemic has started.

    The COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic is the most significant public health event of a generation. Its worldwide spread has totally disrupted our old (early 2020) way of life. At time of writing there are 5.5 million confirmed cases and 350,000 deaths, across 217 countries. A vaccine, if an effective one is ever developed, is many months (more likely years) away. This is the most frightening event many people may ever have experienced. While we now understand a lot about the structure of virus itself, there are many aspects of COVID infections that remain unclear, including transmission and treatment. Uncertainty is frightening, but that is what we are dealing with. Different countries are taking different approaches. It is not surprising that in the absence of robust science and consistent public health advice, COVID pseudoscience has exploded.

    Quackery, or health fraud, is a health practice that is ignorant or fraudulent. It can include a diagnosis, a test, or a treatment. A quack is someone that promotes these types of therapies. However, just because something is unproven does not make it quackery. An absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence. Plausibility matters. The contributors to this blog are Bayesians which in short means that our assessment of “new” data, evidence, or claims is informed by the existing evidence; this includes, in the case of medicine, our understanding of basic science. In evaluating a medical claim, we ask, “Is this plausible, based on what we already know?” It is no different in a pandemic with a novel virus. In the case of COVID, while much is unknown about the infection, there is also a tremendous amount that is known – including human biochemistry, physiology, coronaviruses (in general), and how virus-based infections are transmitted or can be prevented.

    Plausible therapies that are unproven may not be quackery. They could be considered experimental until better evidence emerges. However, many therapies that are currently being promoted for COVID-19 are clearly quackery. Unbound by evidence and driven by a combination of ignorance, hyperbole and usually grift, the number of products and interventions touted as useful to prevent or treat COVID infections continues to grow. Here is a list of what I’ve encountered so far, and a bit about each one where there is some information to share. If I missed anything, please leave it in the comments, and I’ll do a follow-up or add to this list over time.
    Hydroxychloroquine

    If you asked me in March, I wouldn’t have put this on the list. Hydroxychloroquine started out as perhaps weakly plausible based on poor, but promising, evidence. But as more and more evidence has emerged, it is now difficult to accept that there is any “there” there. Not only is there no evidence of benefit, there is now increasingly convincing evidence of harm. If this therapy was simply abandoned given it is ineffective, it wouldn’t be quackery. While some clinical trials are being shut down, it continues to be prescribed and promoted despite the lack of any convincing evidence it can prevent or treat COVID infections. That’s why it’s becoming quackery. David Gorski has more in posts here and here.
    Bear bile and other forms of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)

    Despite the Chinese government’s endorsement and promotion of bear bile injections and other forms of TCM, there is no credible evidence that it is effective. Bear bile extraction is exceptionally cruel, as Jann Bellamy documents, and there is no proven role for TCM in COVID. The tactics on display by the Chinese government are part of an ambitious strategy by the Chinese government to build the reputation of TCM as equal to “Western” medicine. Yes there are papers in the scientific literature that tout TCM. Regrettably, one of the biggest enablers and promoters of TCM outside China is the World Health Organization.
    Bleach (when ingested)

    I’ll set aside the more obvious warning about injecting disinfectant to mention a more pernicious quackery that has been around for some time. Chlorine dioxide is an industrial bleach product that has been promoted for years as a medical product. Branded as “Miracle Mineral Solution” or “MMS“, this blog has covered this quackery extensively. It is now being promoted as a COVID treatment by conspiracy theorists and grifters. The FDA has issued warning letters to vendors.
    Colloidal silver

    Colloidal silver has been covered previously at Science-Based Medicine. Silver is used medicinally in some drug products and devices, but when consumed will not have any beneficial antiviral properties. It can, however, turn you blue.
    Chaga mushroom blends

    I had a delicious tea today. It contained chaga mushrooms. I bought it for an alternative to all the coffee I’ve been drinking, and didn’t realize it’s also touted as some sort of anti-viral. Even for a fungi, chaga doesn’t look that attractive, and I gather it has a long history of unwarranted fame as some sort of health panacea (spoiler alert: probably not). While some manufacturers claim chaga will help with your immunity, there is no credible evidence to substantiate these claims.
    Oil of oregano

    Oil of oregano has been a perennial quack remedy for more than a decade. It is perhaps not surprising that it’s being positioned as an antiviral. Which I supposed it could be, if you dripped the oil directly on a virus. I get emails regularly touting how oil of oregano is effective, based on in vitro (petri dish) studies. But by that argument, drinking margaritas should be an effective COVID strategy, because alcohol-based hand sanitizers are indeed antiviral, when used properly. Doses matter. The delivery method matters. By consuming it, we dilute it, and it’s not going to have any meaningful effects. Save your oregano for your pizza.
    Homeopathy

    Homeopathy is the air guitar of medicine – it looks like a drug, but it’s usually just pure water (sometimes sprayed on little balls of sugar). Not surprisingly, it hasn’t been shown to be effective for any medical condition, except perhaps thirst. Despite its German origins, homeopathy is big in Cuba. Edzard Ernst noted that homeopathy is being given in Cuban eldercare facilities, apparently to protect against COVID infection.
    Aquarium water (drinking it)

    Despite a CBC story that cautions against it, I couldn’t find any other endorsements of this admittedly bizarre strategy. It may be referring to the consumption of the drug chloroquine which is sold for the treatment of various fish infections. Consumption can be fatal. Chloroquine is not the same as hydroxychloroquine, but both seem ineffective at treating COVID infections. See also the tonic water, below.
    Zinc

    Zinc has been touted as a cold remedy for decades, but the evidence supporting these claims is mixed. If it does work, the effectiveness is modest and side effects are common. A chiropractor made a video touting tonic water (see the next item) and zinc which apparently garnered 21 million views. There is no credible evidence to support the claim that zinc has any role in preventing or treating COVID infections.
    Tonic water

    This may be based on confusion between chloroquine (no evidence for COVID) and quinine, a completely distinct drug. Both have roots as anti-malarial medications but your more common exposure to quinine is the tiny amount added to tonic water. Interestingly, tonic water used to be medicinal, but there is no reason to expect that today’s tonic water will have any health benefits, unless you derive medicinal benefits from its combination with gin.
    Chiropractic adjustments

    Jann Bellamy covered this in a prior post. In some jurisdictions, regulators have taken action against chiropractors who are making claims about the effectiveness of chiropractic adjustments for preventing COVID infections. You can’t “boost” your immune system with chiropractic, or any other physical intervention, for that matter.
    Elderberry

    Harriet Hall blogged about this at the end of December 2019 (how long ago that feels now) and she felt the evidence for elderberry product was promising, but that more research was required. Like a lot of natural-based products, the active ingredient (if there is one) hasn’t been identified, and the products may not be free of side-effects. While some cold viruses are coronaviruses, there is no research that examines elderberry and COVID.
    Juice fasting

    Juice can be delicious but existing solely on juice sounds like some form of punishment. Depriving your body of a balanced diet isn’t a good idea even when there isn’t a pandemic. Why put your body at risk through dietary deficiencies?
    Methanol

    Drinking methanol is a bad idea for any reason. Methanol is not ethanol. This quackery has killed over 700 Iranians so far. If it doesn’t kill you, it may leave you blind.

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    I don't have a thousand dollars hanging around to buy a fart in a jar lol.

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    https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-620/


    Jon Yewdell returns to explain studies on detection of antibodies and T cell epitopes in patients who have recovered from COVID-19.

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pennsyl...irus-exposure/

    A Democratic state lawmaker in Pennsylvania released a profanity-laced video Wednesday accusing several Republican colleagues of covering up their COVID-19 status, potentially putting others at risk. He called for those GOP legislators to be investigated and prosecuted by the state attorney general.


    State Representative Brian Sims claims Democrats weren't told that a Republican lawmaker they served with tested positive and that four others had self-quarantined after being exposed.

    "Holy s****. Holy s****, exposing all of us up here to this crap," Sims said in a 12-minute video he posted on his Facebook page. "While covering up what was going on, while simultaneously telling people, telling families that it was safe to be outside, that it was safe to be interacting with other people, while you were testing positive, while you were quarantining the people around you, while you were doing contact tracing."

    Sims, who represents a district in Philadelphia, said that some of the GOP lawmakers who hid their exposure to the virus are the same ones pushing for Pennsylvania's economy to reopen and insisting it's safe for the public.

    "I never ever, ever knew that the Republican leadership of this state would put so many of us at risk for partisanship to cover up a lie," he said. "And that lie is that we're all safe from COVID."

    Sims disclosed that he had donated a kidney earlier this year, which could leave him more susceptible to coronavirus complications.

    "I didn't donate my kidney to save somebody's life so that I could die at the hands of Republicans who are being callous liars," he said.

    In the video, Sims said Democrats learned that at least one Republican had tested positive for coronavirus but kept coming to the state capitol for at least a week afterward.
    Republican state Representative Andrew Lewis announced Wednesday that he had tested positive for coronavirus earlier this month, but said he had stopped coming to the capitol a week before, CBS Philly reports. He said he "only interacted with a couple of people" and he did not reveal his diagnosis earlier because he wanted to "protect their privacy."

    Lewis told CBS Harrisburg affiliate WHP he had a "very light" case of the virus, and that his experience supports the calls from Republicans for reopening workplaces during the pandemic.

    "If anything, my experiences have shown that this is something that is doable — to get back to work," Lewis said.

    He added that he informed human resources about his diagnosis before alerting the public.

    Sims also singled out Republican state Representative Russ Diamond, whom he said had been quarantining for weeks even as he led the push for reopening the state.

    Diamond responded on Twitter: "Lefties whine because I self-quarantined but didn't get tested after possible COVID 'contact.' Confirmed by my doc: No reason for testing, even if I could get tested without symptoms."

    Sims said the Republican House leader should resign and there should be a "full-blown" investigation by Attorney General Josh Shapiro. Another Democrat, state Representative Kevin Boyle, sent a letter to Shapiro asking him to investigate House GOP leadership and "any other potentially infected House Republican members who failed to duly notify Members and staff."

    The state's attorney general has not announced an investigation.

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    I think we need a mask tutorial for people. I literally saw a guy at McDonalds drive thru wearing a mask like the first person. Can people be that dumb? The answer is yes.
    The majority of people I see are wearing them like the 2nd person.

    I went to the dermatologist today for my 6 month skin check (3 spots removed, yay Florida sun!) and they require you to wear a mask. In addition to that, they have a sign saying you are not allowed to use your cell phone in the waiting area. A lady was in there talking on the phone, and had her mask pulled down and hanging off one ear while she bellowed into her phone. Do people not realize that you can talk with a mask on? I led a 2 hour meeting last week with a mask on, surely you can talk for your 5 minute phone call with the mask on.

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    I love when people take their mask off when they can't hear you. Like what's that going to fix?! Lol!
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    Social distancing is a joke.
    My brother and his gf are in town so we went out to eat.
    We were sitting outside on this super long bench and this family sat less than 4 feet from my baby's carrier. There was still room on the bench much further down. I kept wanting to move, but my husband acted like I was dumb for freaking out.
    Also, this restaurant said they were doing limited seating and following the 6 feet apart rule.
    Yeah right. We were sat outside right next to another table. Also, every table inside was filled.
    I think Governor Kemp should have to go to each business and personally train them for several weeks on the reopening guidelines.
    The restaurant decided to close due to an employee being found to have the coronavirus.
    Serves them right for not following guidelines and exposing their employees.
    The employee should sue!
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    https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavi...243663267.html



    The Sacramento County Sheriff?s Office will not be enforcing the statewide order Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Thursday requiring masks and face coverings in public as coronavirus cases continue to increase in California.

    In a statement Friday, the Sheriff?s Office recommended people should be ?exercising safe practices? during the pandemic, including wearing masks, but said it would be ?inappropriate? to criminally enforce the governor?s order, or target people and businesses for failing to do so.

    ?Due to the minor nature of the offense, the potential for negative outcomes during enforcement encounters, and anticipating the various ways in which the order may be violated, it would be inappropriate for deputies to criminally enforce the Governor?s mandate,? a statement from Sheriff Scott Jones said.


    Instead, deputies will be operating ?in an educational capacity? ? an enforcement stance that the office has maintained for months with regard to social distancing protocols, even as various health orders locally and statewide have come down in an effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

    Sheriff?s Office employees will comply with Newsom?s new order ?to the extent feasible,? according to Jones? statement.

    Sacramento County public health officials have observed a recent spike in coronavirus activity, which contact tracers have attributed to large gatherings like parties inside people?s homes where attendees have not worn masks or maintained physical distance.


    As of Friday morning, the county had recorded 1,976 lab-positive cases of COVID-19 and 67 deaths. More than 475 cases and 22 deaths have occurred in unincorporated county areas or in Rancho Cordova, areas where Sheriff?s Office deputies have routine patrols.

    Across California, more than 160,000 people have tested positive for COVID-19 and nearly 5,300 have died, state health officials said in a Thursday update.
    A few other local law enforcement agencies in the Sacramento area aside from the Sheriff?s Office have explicitly said that they won?t enforce the order.

    The Placer County Sheriff?s Office will not be enforcing Newsom?s new order, according to spokeswoman Angela Musallam.

    ?We do hope (people) will take the rule to heart, but we have no interest in arresting or penalizing people who aren?t wearing masks in any way,? she said.

    The Sheriff?s Office will be directing residents with concerns about businesses or groups that are out of compliance to the governor?s office, Musallam said.

    The Placerville Police Department, in a Facebook post Thursday shortly after the government?s announcement, asked residents not to call police dispatch to report mask violations and to ?use common sense and keep yourself safe.?

    ?This is not a police issue,? the Placerville Police Department wrote.

    The mask order, as issued Thursday by Newsom and the state Department of Public Health, does not list or recommend any criminal penalties or enforcement protocols for violators.

    Some agencies have indicated they will likely not be enforcing Newsom?s new order, such as Roseville Police Department.

    ?No law enforcement agency wants to be responsible for shutting down a gathering or citing people who are out of compliance,? the department wrote in a Facebook post Thursday. ?If the need arises, we?ll work with our partners in Placer County Health and Human Services and City of Roseville Code Enforcement to ensure everyone understands the requirements and is working towards compliance.?

    Officials with Yolo County, which has had its own mask requirement in place since late April, said that enforcement will still only be taken against non-complying businesses rather than individuals. Education is still the main approach to getting people to stay safe, however.

    ?The regular person on the street is likely not going to be given a citation,? said county spokeswoman Jenny Tan. ?Businesses must make a good faith effort. When someone comes into a business or restaurant or gym, they have to say, ?Hey, please wear a face covering.? ?

    Representatives with the El Dorado County Sheriff?s Office did not respond to The Bee?s requests for comment.

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    I'm still being careful in public, but I'm over this pandemic. I've hung out with a few people recently. No more than 7-8 people including my husband, son, and myself.
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    One of the guys I serve on a committee with appears to have it. He is running a high fever and has all the symptoms. He's just waiting for the official test results. We had a meeting less than 2 weeks ago, and I was the only one wearing a mask.

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    https://www.wsmv.com/news/zanies-clo...9b7a8a547.html

    NASHVILLE (WSMV) - Zanies Nashville took to social media after learning that D.L. Hughley has tested positive for COVID-19 after performing here for two nights in a row.

    Hughley was performing at the comedy club Thursday and Friday, but collapsed on stage during his performance on Friday night.

    Hughley was taken to St. Thomas Hospital where he was treated for exhaustion according to his publicist, but also learned that he was positive for COVID-19.

    On a video posted to Hughley's Facebook account, he told everyone that he was tested for COVID-19 and learned that he was asymptomatic, showing no symptoms whatsoever for the virus.

    After hearing this report, Zanies has closed their doors and will be completing a comprehensive cleaning process conducted by a specialist.

    Zanies also encouraged each of their attendees for both nights to contact Metro Health if they feel some risk of exposure from being in attendance either night.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...es/3231509001/

    The coronavirus has drastically affected the sports world, leading to cancellations and postponements from major pro leagues and NCAA events as the world attempts to slow the spread of COVID-19. But as college football players and other athletes across the country have started returning to campus for workouts, many are testing positive for the virus.

    Here's a look at several schools who have reported positive COVID-19 tests among their student-athletes. Several schools have decided not to publicly release test results.

    Alabama: At least eight Crimson Tide football players have tested positive, according to media reports. The school has said it would not release numbers or details of test results, citing privacy laws, AL.com reported.

    Arkansas: One unspecified Razorbacks athlete tested positive, the school announced June 4. Football workouts began June 8.

    Arkansas State: Seven athletes for the Red Wolves, across three different (unspecified) sports, have tested positive. An Arkansas State spokesman said he didn’t know how many athletes have been tested since they began returning to campus for voluntary workouts, which also began June 8.

    Auburn: Three football players for the Tigers have tested positive, a team spokesman confirmed to the Montgomery Advertiser on June 7. All three were asymptomatic

    Baylor: Three unspecified athletes tested positive of 59 who were tested, the school announced June 16. One was symptomatic and all three are in self-isolation.

    Central Florida: Of the 60 Knights football players who returned to campus on June 1, three positive tests were announced by the school on June 9.

    Clemson: A majority of the 28 members of the athletic department who tested positive were football players and staff, according to the school. It didn’t break down numbers by sport. Clemson said June 19 that 315 tests had been conducted in June. Previously it said two football players and one men’s basketball player had tested positive.


    East Central: Three East Central University football players have tested positive for coronavirus, the school announced on June 19.

    Florida State: The Seminoles have had one football player test positive, a school spokesman confirmed to the Tallahassee Democrat on June 9.

    Houston: The Cougars suspended voluntary workouts on June 12 after at least six symptomatic student-athletes tested positive for COVID-19. The sports the athletes played were not identified.

    Iowa: One member of the athletic department — it was not specified if it was a player, coach or staff member — was positive in the first round of tests. The department announced an additional two positive tests on June 15 for a total of three positive tests and 343 negative tests.

    Iowa State: The Cyclones revealed on June 12 that 10 student-athletes had tested positive, including two football players.

    Kansas: The Kansas athletic department on June 20 announced that an athlete on the Jayhawk football team has tested positive for the coronavirus. Eighty-six athletes and 110 staff members on the Jayhawk football team have been tested through June 20, according to the release.

    Kansas State: Fourteen members of the athletic department tested positive out of 130 tests as of June 19, according to the school. Kansas State is pausing all voluntary football workouts for 14 days.

    Louisiana: Three Ragin' Cajun athletes in unspecified sports have tested positive, the school reported June 20. An additional seven student-athletes are also in quarantine.

    LSU: At least 30 football players for the defending national champions have recently been quarantined because they either tested positive for COVID-19 or had contact recently with someone who had.


    Louisiana Tech: A Louisiana Tech football player has tested positive for COVID-19, the school announced June 15.

    Marshall: Two Thundering Herd football players as well as one unspecified student-athlete have tested positive. The school also had a positive test from an employee.

    Michigan: There were two positives returned after 221 tests in the athletic department, the school announced June 18. Michigan said both players were asymptomatic.

    Michigan State: One unidentified student-athlete tested positive out of 124 members of the football, volleyball, men's and women's basketball teams.

    Mississippi: Ole Miss had one positive student-athlete test, with nine others going into quarantine after contact with the positive case. One Rebels staff member also tested positive, as did one athlete who tested positive before arriving on campus.

    Mississippi State: Four Bulldogs football players have tested positive, a school spokesman confirmed to the Clarion Ledger on June 12. Approximately 100 football players were tested. Voluntary workouts resumed June 8.

    North Dakota State: The FCS football powerhouse announced that a student-athlete (sport unspecified) tested positive on June 15.

    North Texas: Three Mean Green football players were reported to have tested positive on June 11.

    Oklahoma State: Three Cowboys football players have tested positive. Senior linebacker Amen Ogbongbemiga took his diagnosis public on June 2 to “make people aware (COVID-19) is still out there."

    South Florida: Two Bulls football players tested positive, the school reported on June 17.

    Southern Methodist: SMU athletics reported five positives out of 75 student-athlete tests on June 17.


    Tennessee: The Volunteers' men's basketball team reported one positive coronavirus case on June 19.

    Texas: Thirteen new football players tested positive or were presumed positive for COVID-19, while 10 more are asymptomatic and in self-quarantine, the school announced June 18. This is on top of the two positive cases that Texas reported the prior week, bring the number to 15 total Longhorns that have been diagnosed with the coronavirus.

    Texas A&M: Less than five Aggies student-athletes were initially reported to have coronavirus, but athletic director Ross Bjork told The Bryan-College Station Eagle the number of cases among athletes has increased.

    Texas Tech: The school did not specify a number, but athletes from the Red Raiders' football team, the men's and women's basketball teams and track and field have tested positive.

    Texas State: Five Bobcats football players were announced to have tested positive on June 17.

    Troy: Athletic director Brent Jones announced on June 18 that several football coaches and players have tested positive for COVID-19.

    UTSA: Three University of Texas at San Antonio football players have tested positive for COVID-19 since June 4.

    West Virginia: Two Mountaineers football players have tested positive for the coronavirus. The school reported the first virus case among its football players on June 15, the first day of voluntary workouts. The second reported case came June 20.


    Here are colleges reporting COVID-19 tests as of today.

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