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    https://abc7.com/woman-resists-offic...ocol/10414153/

    . GALVESTON, Texas -- Just a day after Texas rolled back COVID-19 restrictions, including those mandating face coverings in public, a woman's arrest has emerged stemming from her refusal to wear a mask.

    Body camera footage released by Galveston police shows officers confronting the woman inside a Bank of America branch.

    The footage, recorded on Thursday, begins with an officer being directed by a bank manager to the woman. The officer encounters the woman who expresses frustration over being told to wear a mask, invoking the state's lifted mandate.

    However, the officer is heard reminding the woman that businesses can refuse service to anyone that does not comply with masking policies, which is something that Gov. Greg Abbott still allowed.

    After the woman said she wants to take her money out from the bank, the officer tells her to go get a mask and come back to do so.

    With the woman giving pushback, the officer says, "Ma'am, listen, we can do this the easy way or the hard way."

    What are you going to do? Arrest me?" she asks. "That's hilarious."

    The confrontation escalates with the woman raising her voice at other bank customers, and that's when it becomes physical.

    The woman is taken down to the ground and arrested.

    Police identified the woman as 65-year-old Terry White, who was arrested on a charge of resisting arrest and criminal trespass. Officers added she sustained minor injuries and was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.
    In an interview Friday with KTRK-TV, White said she traveled to Galveston in an RV to cross off items off her bucket list. She was at the bank to close her account and the Central City location was the only one that was open to her.

    She said she would have preferred to go through a drive-thru but couldn't with her RV. Still, she says, she's glad she stood her ground, adding that she is "very opposed" to masks and doesn't believe in the pandemic.


    "I won't wear that diaper on my face!" she told KTRK.

    White's arrest came a day after Texas officially lifted mandates statewide over virus prevention protocols. In lifting those mandates, Abbott put controls over protections back in the hands of individual businesses, but reminded Texans that personal responsibility is key with the coronavirus still rampant.

    Legally, individual businesses are allowed to set their own safety protocols against the coronavirus, and, like in White's case, can refuse service to patrons who don't abide by policy.

    KTRK has reached out to Bank of America for comment on the arrest.

    The Governor of Texas should be blamed for this stuff.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/polit...ine/index.html

    Trump, estranged from Presidents Club, excluded from predecessors' PSA

    (CNN)When President Donald Trump received his Covid-19 vaccine at the White House in January, it was not recorded by official photographers or videographers, according to a person familiar with the matter, who said it wasn't clear there was any photographic documentation of the moment.

    That alone would have made it difficult for Trump to be included in the public service announcement of all living former presidents and their wives receiving vaccine shots.

    Discussions about Trump being involved in the spot never gained traction given his estrangement from the Presidents Club at the end of his term and the bitter way in which he departed Washington on Inauguration Day, people familiar with the matter said.

    It was a conversation on that January day between former Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama that formed the basis of the vaccination campaign, which debuted Thursday. Because Trump made the decision to not join his predecessors in that historic moment, a person close to the project said, he wasn't asked to be involved in the public service announcement.

    Trump expressed little interest in joining his predecessors to promote the vaccine, and the team that organized the PSA did not view it as likely that the 45th president would participate, leaving little opening for his inclusion.

    "He has made no signals of wanting to be included in these types of moments," an aide to a former president told CNN.
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    Holy too much text! TL:DR

    No one is going to read something like that-it makes my eyes hurt.

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    My husband and I are eligible for the vaccine in my state and we're going to get it on Wednesday.
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    Why?

    Because I don't like anal penetration sex between men, I don't.

    Just because I don't like anal sex, doesn't make me any less gay or unable to be loved.

    I can't be the only one out here, I'm just not. Don't worry about it. Mind your fucking business.

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    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...-bank-76453888

    GALVESTON, Texas -- An arrest warrant was issued for a woman who refused to wear a mask at a Texas bank, saying to a police officer: “What are you going to do, arrest me?”

    Police have issued a warrant for the arrest of Terry Wright, 65, of Grants Pass, Oregon. The incident on Thursday at a Bank of America in Galveston was captured by the officer's body camera, The Galveston County Daily News reported.
    Police say they've obtained an arrest warrant on resisting arrest and criminal trespassing charges.

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday ended statewide orders requiring people to wear face masks in public places, declaring that businesses should decide for themselves what COVID-19 precautions to take on their properties. Many businesses have kept their own mask rules in place.

    Police said a bank manager called police after Wright refused to wear a mask while inside, and then refused to leave the building when asked.

    The police department on Friday released the officer's body camera video footage. In the video, Wright can be seen standing in the middle of the bank’s lobby, surrounded by other customers, all of whom were wearing masks.

    Wright told the officer she had come to the bank to make a withdrawal. The officer asked her to go outside or put on a mask. She refused.

    “What are you going to do, arrest me?” she asked.

    He replied: “Yes, for intruding on premises.” And then she said: “That’s hilarious.”

    Wright then told the officer the law said she didn’t have to wear a mask. As the officer took out handcuffs, she pulled away and began to walk toward the door. The officer stopped her and forced her to the ground. After she was handcuffed, she complained that her foot was injured.

    “Police brutality right here people,” she said to the other customers at the bank. Replies of “no” and “no, it's not” could be heard.

    Police said she suffered minor injuries during the struggle and was taken to a hospital for treatment.

    Wright told The Washington Post that she has never covered her face inside stores, even when the statewide mandate was in place. She said she was in an RV park across the bay from Galveston in Hitchcock, Texas.

    She told the newspaper she was “attacked” and compared mask requirements to the way that Nazi Germany forced Jewish people to identify themselves with a Star of David. She also said she believed in a “plandemic” in a reference to a documentary-style video in which an anti-vaccine activist promotes a string of questionable, false and potentially dangerous coronavirus theories.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/post-v...ry?id=75524209

    When a Florida doctor died just weeks after receiving a coronavirus vaccine, his story whipped around the internet and spurred fears that the COVID-19 vaccine might have had something to do with his death. But scientists warn that these isolated cases, while tragic, do not mean the vaccines are to blame.

    “These vaccines have had incredible safety profiles in the trials and post-authorization. So far, there has been nothing to confirm these awful events," said Dr. John Brownstein, an epidemiologist at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor.

    In fact, an average of 8,000 people die each day in the United States. Some of them may have just received a coronavirus vaccine.

    MORE: COVID-19 live updates: Fauci says next 6 weeks will be 'full-court press' on variants
    “We have to be very careful about causality," Brownstein said. "There are going to be spurious relationships, especially as the vaccine is targeting elderly or those with chronic conditions. Just because these events happen in proximity to the vaccine does not mean the vaccine caused these events."

    "Nursing home centers and hospices are of particular concern, because they are homes to incredibly frail populations," Brownstein pointed out, "and you have to look at the background rate of these events within those populations.”

    Scientists say it's human nature to draw a connection between events -- especially when they happen close together -- but it doesn't mean one caused the other.

    “These medical events occur every single day, including unexplained illnesses," said Dr. William Schaffner, professor of medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. "The question really is, do they occur at a greater rate in the vaccinated population than they do in the general population?”

    Every time someone gets sick or dies shortly after getting a vaccine, government agencies investigate to ensure there's no link.

    “The CDC, FDA, CMS and the Department of Defense are all collaborating on a series of surveillance activities for medical events that occur after vaccination," Schaffner said. "They are looking for these events, gathering and investigating them in a very systematic fashion."

    "These events are taken very seriously," Schaffner said, adding that authorities conduct autopsies and also hunt for patterns, to ensure there's no association.

    So far, more than 26 million people in the United States have received a dose of the vaccine for COVID-19. The CDC estimates that out of every 1 million people, two or three who receive the Moderna vaccine and around 11 who receive the Pfizer vaccine may suffer a severe allergic reaction. Some people experience side effects like fever, fatigue and a sore arm. But so far, the CDC hasn't identified a single case in which the vaccine caused a person's death.

    Schaffner said that though these isolated deaths shortly after vaccination sound scary, we should all try to resist the temptation of assuming these events are related.

    "We all know that the rooster crows before the dawn, but we don’t think the rooster makes the sun come up, simply because they are related in time," he said.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...ts/ar-BB1e4DvJ

    Feb. 27—California state Sen. Richard Pan, D-Sacramento, is calling on Twitter and Facebook to ban high-profile anti-vaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. from their platforms as part of a national campaign to encourage vaccination against COVID-19.


    Pan told supporters of his Ready to Vaccinate campaign in a Wednesday email that Kennedy should be stripped of his accounts for using them to "spread lies about COVID-19 vaccines and trying to drive fear in communities of color."

    "Sadly, COVID-19 isn't the only disease we're fighting," Pan wrote in the email inviting subscribers to sign a petition for Kennedy's social media removal. "We're also up against the disease of misinformation, perpetuated by high-profile anti-vaxxers like Robert F. Kennedy Jr."

    Ready to Vaccinate is a project under the umbrella of ProtectUs Now, a nonprofit launched in January that Pan works with to combat misinformation around health policy.

    The organizations were set up to "provide spaces for people to speak up" and have deep discussions on public health issues like COVID-19 and vaccines, said Crystal Strait, founder and board member. The group has not started taking donations yet, Strait said.

    Kennedy is an environmental attorney and the son of former U.S. Attorney General and New York Sen. Robert F. Kennedy. He's also known for his advocacy as the founder of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine group that has promoted false information on immunizations, including the COVID-19 vaccines.

    Because of his online rhetoric, Instagram removed Kennedy Jr.'s account in February as part of a multi-month sweep by social media companies to eradicate COVID-19 and vaccine falsehoods on their platforms.

    "We removed this account for repeatedly sharing debunked claims about the coronavirus or vaccines," a spokesperson for Facebook, which owns Instagram, said at the time.

    But Kennedy's Facebook and Twitter accounts, with 309,000 and 227,000 followers, respectively, remained active.

    In an interview, Kennedy said Pan's campaign was an attempt to quell debate.

    "The idea of a government official advocating for censorship of Americans for criticizing a pharmaceutical product is anti-American," he said.

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration determined authorized COVID-19 vaccines to be safe and effective after enduring rigorous scientific reviews. The vaccines will also continued to be monitored for any safety concerns, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention notes.

    This is not the first time Pan and Kennedy have publicly clashed over vaccines.

    The legislator is the author of California's two strict vaccine laws, which Kennedy lobbied against when they were written in 2015 and 2019. The rules limit when kids can skip their shots in order to enroll in school as a way to maintain high vaccination rates against deadly diseases in California's classrooms.

    Pan said the platforms need to ban accounts like Kennedy's in order to "curtail the influence of anti-vaxxer information online."

    "They've been undermining science for years," Pan wrote, "and today, we say: No more."

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    https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotec...cular-partners

    Novartis is kick-starting a new trial with Molecular Partners for an experimental COVID-19 drug just a few months after another partnered attempt flopped.

    The U.S.-Swiss major was a little late to the COVID-19 R&D game, but has in recent months tried to ramp things up, penning a pandemic vaccine manufacturing pact with Pfizer/BioNTech and CureVac while also pairing with two biotechs on new drugs against the disease.

    The first of these partnerships, with Australian cell therapy specialist Mesoblast, hasn’t gone so well: The pair inked a $50 million upfront deal in November last year for global rights to remestemcel-L in COVID-19, reinvigorating a project that had been hit by FDA rejection as a treatment for children with steroid-resistant graft-versus-host disease just a few weeks earlier.

    The deal also included $505 million in development milestones and $750 million in sales milestones, plus tiered double-digit royalties. But a month later, a phase 3 test flopped when data experts looked at remestemcel-L in ventilator-dependent patients with moderate to severe acute respiratory distress syndrome due to COVID-19 and said it was unlikely to show a benefit.

    This saw Mesoblast’s shares crater, and Novartis looked like it had backed the wrong horse. There’s still a chance that remestemcel-L could show a benefit on some of these other endpoints, and, alongside Novartis, it will keep following up the patient cohort through 60 days to explore that further, with the data expected soon.


    Novartis did not, however, put all its eggs in one basket, and also penned a deal with Molecular Partners for a different approach. That $69 million deal was for MP0420 and MP0423, two antivirals out of the biotech’s so-called DARPin tech.

    Today, the pair said ensovibep (the new name for MP0420) is “expected to be included in a global phase 3 randomized, controlled clinical trial as part of the National Institutes of Health’s Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV) program.”

    This trial, ACTIV-3, is set up to assess the safety and efficacy of various therapies for the treatment of adults hospitalized with a COVID-19 diagnosis. This also comes after the National Institutes of Health had to can several other experimental meds from its COVID-19 drug program, including candidates from Eli Lilly, GSK/Vir and Brii Biosciences, after initial data showed they were unlikely to benefit patients.

    Should Novartis hit up its option to fully license these meds, it would then be responsible for all further development and sales. The pair will also work together to scale up manufacturing capacity in collaboration with Novartis’ generics and biosimilar biz Sandoz.

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    https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufac...ahead-december

    The issue boils down to whether Pfizer and BioNTech's commercial manufacturing was up to par. EMA scientists had misgivings about “truncated and modified mRNA species present in the finished product," and as a result, filed two major objections with Pfizer and raised a slew of additional questions, the report says.

    In an email to Fierce Pharma, Pfizer noted that discussions with regulators about vaccine quality are a "normal component of the regulatory review process."

    Having a complete, intact mRNA molecule is essential to the performance of an mRNA vaccine, and “[even] a minor degradation reaction, anywhere along a mRNA strand, can severely slow or stop proper translation performance of that strand and thus result in the incomplete expression of the target antigen," Daan J.A. Crommelin, professor of biopharmaceutics, and colleagues wrote in The Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences last year, as quoted by BMJ.

    For the Pfizer product, mRNA integrity for clinical batches came in at about 78%, compared with 55% for the proposed commercial batches, an EMA email dated November 23 states. That difference led to the concerns that Pfizer and the regulators worked through.

    Vaccine efficacy does depend on the presence of appropriate levels of intact mRNA, according to the EMA. The regulators and Pfizer haven't said what level of mRNA integrity is acceptable.

    "It’s important to note that each batch of vaccines is tested by the official medicinal control laboratory (OMCL)—the Paul-Ehrlich Institute in Germany—before final product release," Pfizer said in its emailed statement.

    "As a result, the quality of all vaccine doses that are placed on the market in Europe has been double tested to ensure compliance with the specifications agreed upon with the regulatory authorities. Should a batch not meet these required specifications, the product wouldn’t be released for use in Europe."

    In another leaked email dated November 25, an undisclosed source from the U.S. said that the "latest lots indicate that % intact RNA are back at around 70-75%, which leaves us cautiously optimistic that additional data could address the issue.”

    Meanwhile, Pfizer told Fierce Pharma its EMA authorization indicates "that all the questions raised during the procedure were addressed satisfactorily and the efficacy, safety and quality of the vaccine could be demonstrated on the data submitted." Regulators in Canada, the U.S. and many other countries have also authorized the shot.

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    Paul Thomas M.D. under investigation for being an anti-vaxxer.

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    https://www.everythinglubbock.com/ne...u-police-said/

    Man held 11 National Guard Soldiers Transporting Vaccine at Gunpoint


    Let me guess...Qanon?
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    Oh look Puzz, someone who actually sees your and my governor for what they are:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/opini...itz/index.html

    Ron DeSantis' Florida boast rings hollow
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Oh look Puzz, someone who actually sees your and my governor for what they are:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/opini...itz/index.html

    Ron DeSantis' Florida boast rings hollow
    I had never realized before this just how expendable we were all considered to the PTB. As long as sales tax money keep coming in, what does it matter if a few hundred or even a few thousand "nonproductive" folks die? By that measure, yeah Covid Kristi has been quite a success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    I had never realized before this just how expendable we were all considered to the PTB. As long as sales tax money keep coming in, what does it matter if a few hundred or even a few thousand "nonproductive" folks die? By that measure, yeah Covid Kristi has been quite a success.
    He has literally been the worst during the pandemic. Even TX governor Abbott looks like a rock star compared to him, which is why I was so floored when I saw the recent CNN article crowning him king of the pandemic handling. Somebody had to have been high when they wrote that.

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    https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/im...doses-on-maui/

    Maui is reporting compromised vaccine batch.

    HONOLULU (KHON2) — Maui Health officials confirmed that approximately 1,300 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were compromised on Monday, March 22, due to a refrigerator door that did not seal properly.

    Current and future vaccination appointments will not be affected by the issue, according to Maui Health.

    Maui Health immediately contacted Pfizer and determined the doses needed to be removed and discarded appropriately. The Department of Health and the Healthcare Association of Hawaii (HAH) were also notified. The president and CEO of HAH said, he appreciates Maui Health’s transparency.

    “It’s certainly not intentional or malicious, no one tried to inactivate these vaccines. The device was still working the refrigerator was still working, unfortunately, it was a few degrees higher than it should have been,”

    HILTON RAETHEL, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATION OF HAWAII
    Raethel says the refrigerator is still usable and Maui Health is moving it to an area that is constantly monitored.

    It turns out that this is not the first time vaccine doses have gone to waste here in Hawaii.

    LIST: Hawaii advances to Phase 1C, here’s where you can get your COVID-19 vaccine
    Hawaii has lost a total of 2,400 doses since the start of distribution. In 881 of those cases they had to be tossed out when a vial or syringe broke. However, this is the first time a large batch of doses was lost all at once.

    Despite that, this should not impact any upcoming appointments.

    “Fortunately we do have enough vaccine on Maui to thaw out this week and we are working to replace that tray for next week,” Raethel said.

    Increased supply from the federal government will also help, though it’s still a loss for the state.

    “We just got word from the federal government that we will be receiving more trays next week than what we received this week so we can make it up from that perspective, but instead of adding 3 or 4 additional trays or another 4,000 people or vaccinations next week, we are short we’d have to make up that tray,”

    Click here to learn about Maui Health’s walk-up vaccine clinic being offered to kupuna ages 70 and older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    He has literally been the worst during the pandemic. Even TX governor Abbott looks like a rock star compared to him, which is why I was so floored when I saw the recent CNN article crowning him king of the pandemic handling. Somebody had to have been high when they wrote that.
    There are apparently two measures of success for a pandemic gov. 1.Did your people mostly survive. 2. Did the economy survive. 2. is obviously the one that matters in SD and Fl.
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    https://www.kron4.com/health/coronav...after-us-rift/

    (AP) – AstraZeneca insisted Wednesday that its COVID-19 vaccine is strongly effective even after counting additional illnesses in its disputed U.S. study, the latest in an extraordinary public rift with American officials.

    In a late-night press release, AstraZeneca said it had recalculated data from that study and concluded the vaccine is 76% effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, instead of the 79% it had claimed earlier in the week.

    Santa Clara County reports increase in how long COVID patients are hospitalized
    Just a day earlier, an independent panel that oversees the study had accused AstraZeneca of cherry-picking data to tout the protection offered by its vaccine. The panel, in a harsh letter to the company and to U.S. health leaders, said the company had left out some COVID-19 cases that occurred in the study, a move that could erode trust in the science.

    Data disputes during ongoing studies usually remain confidential but in an unusual step, the National Institutes of Health publicly called on AstraZeneca to fix the discrepancy.

    Pfizer begins trials for oral COVID-19 treatment
    AstraZeneca had been counting on findings from a predominantly U.S. study of 32,000 people to help rebuild confidence in a vaccine that, despite being widely used in Britain, Europe and other countries, has had a troubled rollout. Previous studies have turned up inconsistent data about its effectiveness, and then last week a scare about blood clots had some countries temporarily pausing inoculations.

    Now the question is whether the company’s newest calculations end the tension.

    Earlier Wednesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. infectious disease expert, told reporters he hoped that when all the data was publicly vetted by federal regulators, it would dispel any hesitancy caused by the spat. He predicted it would “turn out to be a good vaccine.”

    CDC shares how many are missing their second COVID-19 vaccine dose
    AstraZeneca’s newest calculations were based on 190 COVID-19 cases that occurred during the study, 49 more than it had included earlier in the week. The vaccine appears especially protective against the worst outcomes, with no severe illnesses or hospitalizations among vaccinated study volunteers compared to eight severe cases among those given dummy shots, the company said. It didn’t provide a breakdown of the rest of the cases.

    European authorities had questioned how protective the vaccine is in older adults. In the U.S. study, it was 85% effective in volunteers 65 and older, the company said. The study didn’t turn up safety concerns.

    The updated information “confirms that our COVID-19 vaccine is highly effective in adults, including those aged 65 years and over,” AstraZeneca research chief Mene Pangalos said in a statement. He said the company looks forward to “the rollout of millions of doses across America.”

    The study hasn’t ended so additional COVID-19 cases can accrue. AstraZeneca cautioned that 14 additional possible cases already are being examined, which could lead to further changes in the data.

    The company intends to seek Food and Drug Administration clearance of the vaccine within a few weeks. The FDA will publicly debate all the evidence with its outside advisers before making a decision.

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    Okay. Georgia's governor just said everyone 16+ can get the vaccine. Which one do you all like? I know everyone reacts differently, but which one has the least bad side effects?
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    I don't have a thousand dollars hanging around to buy a fart in a jar lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouscat View Post
    Okay. Georgia's governor just said everyone 16+ can get the vaccine. Which one do you all like? I know everyone reacts differently, but which one has the least bad side effects?
    AFAIK only one of us here has gotten the vaccine. I get mine today. It's Pfizer. I will let you know. Florida is opening it up to everyone (as I suspected they would) in just over a week. They were saying on the news yesterday that in Florida you can register but to be patient because it's going to be awhile. Definitely go get it though as soon as you can. Most places don't let you pick, so if you want the first appt you take what you get. It's very hard to find the J&J (one and done) down here in Florida due to shipping delays, and I assume GA would be the same. I think a few Publix stores had it but that's about it.

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    I took my first shot. I survived and then I picked up a steak dinner to celebrate. Even though my husband has an appt next week they wouldn't give him his today so we will be going back very soon to get his. The whole process was super efficient and pretty much painless. I got there at 2pm and was finished with the after shot waiting period by 2:27. Easy peasey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I took my first shot. I survived and then I picked up a steak dinner to celebrate. Even though my husband has an appt next week they wouldn't give him his today so we will be going back very soon to get his. The whole process was super efficient and pretty much painless. I got there at 2pm and was finished with the after shot waiting period by 2:27. Easy peasey.
    Let me know how you feel in the next few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouscat View Post
    Let me know how you feel in the next few days.
    Two days out now: My arm felt a little sore, like how it does when you get a flu shot. One of my lymph nodes in my neck is a bit swollen, which is a good thing because it means my body is having an immune reaction and building immunity. That's it. I didn't take anything (advil, tylenol, etc) and didn't have any fever, fatigue, nausea, etc...no mystery rash or any other issue. Go get your shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Two days out now: My arm felt a little sore, like how it does when you get a flu shot. One of my lymph nodes in my neck is a bit swollen, which is a good thing because it means my body is having an immune reaction and building immunity. That's it. I didn't take anything (advil, tylenol, etc) and didn't have any fever, fatigue, nausea, etc...no mystery rash or any other issue. Go get your shot!
    First shot was very similar for me. No arm soreness at all tho and I was so tired... I actually slept well for several nights. Second shot was Wednesday. And it opened a portal to hell. My caregiver had a stroke, roomie colapsed with gout of all things, the gal that's helping in caregivers absence had a medical emergency with her son...

    But as for symptoms thurs and fri were blargh. Some chills, some hot flashes, a need to stay near the rest room and I just generally felt poorly. Nothing worse than a mild, mild flu. Saturday was much better. And today, so far has been fine. I had Pfizer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    First shot was very similar for me. No arm soreness at all tho and I was so tired... I actually slept well for several nights. Second shot was Wednesday. And it opened a portal to hell. My caregiver had a stroke, roomie colapsed with gout of all things, the gal that's helping in caregivers absence had a medical emergency with her son...

    But as for symptoms thurs and fri were blargh. Some chills, some hot flashes, a need to stay near the rest room and I just generally felt poorly. Nothing worse than a mild, mild flu. Saturday was much better. And today, so far has been fine. I had Pfizer.
    And just to clarify for all the stirrers out there, none of the issues with the caregiver or roomie had anything to do with the vaccine, other than their issues happened on the same day you got your 2nd shot, right?

    I have heard the 2nd shot gives you more of a 'sick' response. For the people that have complained about it my response to them was "if you're so bent out of shape over this, imagine how bent out of shape you would be if you didn't get the vaccine and got covid instead!" But I am an ass and the people that were complaining about it aren't my favorite people anyway, lol.

    I had Pfizer too. The person who did the most complaining (after she jumped the line to get the vaccine) had Moderna, and her symptoms sounded very similar to yours for the 2nd one.

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