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    Interview with house owners' son

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    Quote Originally Posted by nestlequikie View Post
    I'm so confused about his jacket and glasses being found on the 2nd floor "near the fireplace" yet they are saying he climbed up an antenna on the exterior of the house to go down the chimney.

    Did he throw his jacket and glasses down the chimney before climbing in??

    Did he sneak in the house early in the morning of the 20th and run outside to avoid getting caught inside by someone working on the house leaving his coat and glasses behind - which could be a reason he would need to enter the secured house via the chimney??

    Or am I missing something??


    The home doesn't have fireplaces. The chimney was a vent for a gas/coal/wood-burning stove. There is an 8-inch diameter flue opening in the wall on the second floor ... the kind you might attach a stove pipe to.

    The chimney was blocked off between the first and second floors at some point. So he got stuck on the second floor and pushed his coat and glasses out through that hole, possibly hoping someone would see them and find him. They were found on the floor just beneath the flue.

    Police did check the exterior of the house, but it was locked up tight, no signs of forced entry, and they couldn't see what was on the second floor. No one had been inside the house since November.

    No one is sure at this point if he took his jacket off because it was bulky and tossed it in ahead of himself, or if he entered the chimney with his hands above his head and was able too wriggle out of it while in the chimney ... or whatever.
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    Personally, I think he dropped his jacket down before going in to make himself less ?bulky? and to see if the coat went all the way down and out of the chimney bottom.

    What?s sad is even if he made it all the way down he wouldn?t have been able to get out.

    I don?t mean to sound gross, but wouldn?t the jacket be covered in ?fluids? from his decomposing body ? The fluid would run down the chimney and out of the flue, like his jacket did.

    Those assholes over at WS are deleting my posts for no god damn reason. Assholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Personally, I think he dropped his jacket down before going in to make himself less ?bulky? and to see if the coat went all the way down and out of the chimney bottom.

    What?s sad is even if he made it all the way down he wouldn?t have been able to get out.

    I don?t mean to sound gross, but wouldn?t the jacket be covered in ?fluids? from his decomposing body ? The fluid would run down the chimney and out of the flue, like his jacket did.

    Those assholes over at WS are deleting my posts for no god damn reason. Assholes
    Haha, you're being censored by the WS police. We would NEVER delete your posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Personally, I think he dropped his jacket down before going in to make himself less ?bulky? and to see if the coat went all the way down and out of the chimney bottom.

    What?s sad is even if he made it all the way down he wouldn?t have been able to get out.

    I don?t mean to sound gross, but wouldn?t the jacket be covered in ?fluids? from his decomposing body ? The fluid would run down the chimney and out of the flue, like his jacket did.

    Those assholes over at WS are deleting my posts for no god damn reason. Assholes


    We don't really know where on the wall the flue opening was positioned. Some are really high, almost to the ceiling, and some are lower. It's possible he got stuck below the flue, or at least partly below the flue, so I think any fluids would've settled at the bottom of the chimney pipe (where it was blocked off between floors). I hope that makes sense.
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    That makes sense TOH. Do you know if he went head first? I can?t find it anywhere what position he was in.

    And for the record I didn?t cuss, diss the victims family, or talk about anything that wasn?t on msm. So they are dumb for deleting my posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    That makes sense TOH. Do you know if he went head first? I can?t find it anywhere what position he was in.

    And for the record I didn?t cuss, diss the victims family, or talk about anything that wasn?t on msm. So they are dumb for deleting my posts.

    Oh stop, you know you were being bad on Websleuths.

    Still no word about which way he went in. At first, I didn't totally understand the whole chimney situation, so I thought he had to have gone head first for his stuff to end up on the floor. Now I think it's more likely he went feet-first ... because it seems crazy to go head-first, in the dark, when you think you're dropping two stories into fireplace. Then again, going down a chimney at all is pretty crazy, so ...
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    Was just re-reading the interview with the chimney expert, and I forgot he said the chimney would narrow at the flue, and Harley would be stuck there. So the flue probably would've been by his feet/legs.

    https://www.wtol.com/article/news/lo...5-ae117d12c18e
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    They released the initial missing persons report: https://fox8.com/2020/01/21/initial-...disappearance/

    Sounds like maybe he went in the chimney Friday evening instead of Friday morning. He couldn't go to James' house, which is where he usually spent the night when he was mad at his parents, because James was st the Cavs game.


    PORT CLINTON, Ohio (WJW) -- Port Clinton police have released the police report made regarding when Harley Dilly went missing, and it includes new details about his life and what led to his disappearance.

    The report was made on Dec. 21 at just before midnight by his father, Marcus Dilly, at the police department.

    According to the report, Marcus Dilly said Harley was "mad because he had broken his phone and demanded that they get him a new one." He said Harley was told he would have to earn it.

    Marcus Dilly said there were other incidents where Harley wouldn't come home from school on a Friday and didn't return until a Saturday morning. He said he never filed reports in those instances. He said he wanted to file a report in this situation because Harley had been gone too long and normally returned in the mornings. He said nothing happened to make him think Harley was in danger, and that he didn't have a history of being suicidal.

    Marcus Dilly did say Harley had ADHD and autism and was high functioning and very smart. He said he was a "baby when it comes to being cold" and that he would know enough to get out of the elements.

    Police then followed up with several of Harley's friends and acquaintances to determine who had seen him and when.

    A father of one of the friends said Harley and another boy was with his son Thursday after school when Harley was heading home.

    Harley's mother, Heather Dilly, said the last time she saw her son was Friday morning "when he was trying to get out of going to school and stated he didn't feel good." She said she told him to get his {expletive} to school "and as far as she knew he had left and went to school."

    After the interviews, police then issued a BOLO for Harley. His disappearance led to a nationwide search with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

    The 14-year-old was found dead inside the chimney of a home across the street from his family's house the night of Monday, Jan. 13. Port Clinton Police called his death an accident. The Ottawa County Coroner's Office said Dilly died of asphyxiation.

    "It appears that Harley climbed an antenna tower to the roof and entered the chimney," Police Chief Robert Hickman previously said. "Once in the chimney, Harley's jacket and glasses were pushed from the chimney through a flue and into the second floor of the house. The chimney was blocked between the second and first floor which trapped Harley. The chimney is approximately 9 inches by 13 inches in size."

    The house was unoccupied and used as a vacation home.

    Police do not believe foul play was involved.

    Port Clinton police said they are waiting on other reports from multiple agencies involved in the search.

    PDF of the full report: https://localtvwjw.files.wordpress.c...1/2966_001.pdf
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    I wonder where he was all day Friday then?

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    I guess he was trying to get into the abandoned house to sleep for the night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    I wonder where he was all day Friday then?

    I just discovered that the boy who says he saw Harley on Friday afternoon later told LE that he was mistaken and actually saw him Thursday. The police chief had already clarified that during one of his press conferences. So I guess nobody saw him after he left home Friday morning. Sorry! So much confusing info!


    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/...-disappearance
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    It?s all good. This shit is confusing.

    I cannot believe him not coming home was somewhat normal for the family. Not to power level but my mom wasn?t strict at all and before I had a cell she would page me and always had to know where I was staying overnight. Harley seems immature for his age how could they not worry?

    Ugh it?s not their fault Harley is gone. It?s a tragic accident. I made a ton at his age but lived through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TupeloHoney View Post
    The home doesn't have fireplaces. The chimney was a vent for a gas/coal/wood-burning stove. There is an 8-inch diameter flue opening in the wall on the second floor ... the kind you might attach a stove pipe to.

    The chimney was blocked off between the first and second floors at some point. So he got stuck on the second floor and pushed his coat and glasses out through that hole, possibly hoping someone would see them and find him. They were found on the floor just beneath the flue.

    Police did check the exterior of the house, but it was locked up tight, no signs of forced entry, and they couldn't see what was on the second floor. No one had been inside the house since November.

    No one is sure at this point if he took his jacket off because it was bulky and tossed it in ahead of himself, or if he entered the chimney with his hands above his head and was able too wriggle out of it while in the chimney ... or whatever.
    Thanks for the info, TH!!!

    That makes much more sense to me now.

    Poor kid.
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    So I saw a video on the preliminary autopsy report and it said he didn?t have dirt in his lungs. How is that possible is dirt was on his face and body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    So I saw a video on the preliminary autopsy report and it said he didn?t have dirt in his lungs. How is that possible is dirt was on his face and body?

    I'm sure the 150-year-old chimney is grimy and dirty, but it was previously used for a gas stove (according to the homeowner), which would produce minimal soot. I don't think there would be a lot of fine particles floating in the air that would get in his lungs. If the chimney had been used for a wood-burning or coal-burning stove, it would likely be far more sooty and filthy.
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    Also he had cerebral edema, so did he hit his head on the way down and no draw breath?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Also he had cerebral edema, so did he hit his head on the way down and no draw breath?
    Nvm you answered the breathing question for me.

    He was in the fetal position, so I?m guessing he went down feet first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Also he had cerebral edema, so did he hit his head on the way down and no draw breath?
    Cerebral edema is a natural result of asphyxia. It could also be a result of him going in head-first ... like KJ. Still not sure about all that, though.
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    Is his funeral today? I read people were ?protesting? there. Dumbasses.

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    Petition hopes to create 'Harley's Law,' requiring parents to report missing children in timely manner

    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/...-timely-manner

    PORT CLINTON, Ohio — A petition has been created in hopes that a law will be created to prevent situations similar to the disappearance of Port Clinton teen Harley Dilly, which ended tragically last week.

    The body of 14-year-old Harley Dilly was found in the chimney of an unoccupied home near the Dilly residence on Jan. 14 after weeks of searching over 150 acres in Port Clinton, police said at a news conference.

    The Lucas County coroner ruled Harley's cause of death as compressive asphyxia. Compressive asphyxia is when respiration is prevented by external pressure on the body. Authorities said his death appeared to be accidental.

    The coroner said Harley most likely died the day he went missing.

    Harley was not reported missing for two days after he was last seen leaving for school and members of the community are trying to change the standard for when children are reported missing.

    A petition created on Change.org is calling for a law to be created that would legally require parents to report missing children in a timely manner.

    The proposed law would be called “Harley’s Law,” according to the petition.

    Creators of the petition plan to send it to the Ohio State House, the Ohio State Senate and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine.

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