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    9 members of the LeBaron family killed in Mexico

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    Nine people with dual US-Mexican citizenship, including three mothers and six children, were killed in the attack near the US-Mexico border.

    Wiki link about the LeBaron family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church...LeBaron_order)

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/ameri...day/index.html

    A suspect has been arrested in the massacre of nine family members from a Mormon community on the Mexican side of the border with the United States, Mexican authorities said Tuesday.

    The suspect was holding two bound-and-gagged hostages in the hills of Agua Prieta in Sonora state, the ministerial Agency for Criminal Investigations (AMIC) said.

    The suspect had several rifles and a large amount of ammunition, including a number of large-caliber weapons, the agency said in a statement posted to its official Facebook page.

    The arrest came a day after a convoy of women and children was viciously attacked by criminal groups while driving near the US-Mexico border, Mexican authorities said.

    The victims and eight surviving children were ambushed by criminal groups Monday evening while traveling between the states of Sonora and Chihuahua, Mexican authorities said.

    The victims appear to be from a fundamentalist sect, separate from the mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    Three women, four small children and two infants -- all dual US-Mexican citizens -- were killed in their vehicles Monday, family member Alex LeBaron said.

    The attorney general for the neighboring state of Chihuahua, Cesar Peniche Espejel, confirmed the arrest in an interview with Mexico's Imagen Radio on Tuesday but could not confirm details of the suspect's involvement.

    "We are waiting for some more intelligence in order to issue an official statement," he said.

    Peniche Espejel said he believes the newly-formed Los Jaguares cartel, an offshoot of the Sinaloa cartel, may be behind the massacre.

    But earlier Tuesday, a US official said a rival cartel called La L?nea is under focus.

    "These very cartels of Sinaloa, after the arrest of Guzman 'El Chapo' have suffered fragmentations," Peniche Espejel said.

    "They have been growing near the border with the United States and are heavily involved in trafficking of immigrants into the United States and drug-trafficking."

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    I had no idea that there were any LeBaron's left in Mexico but after reading Under the Banner of Heaven by John Krakauer this doesn't surprise me .

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    I have never heard of these LeBaron people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    I have never heard of these LeBaron people.
    The founder of this sect is tied into Warren Jeff's and the Jessop's of the FLDS and had his own family members murder other family members. Lots of violence and crime with this group and that is why they stay in Mexico to avoid American laws .There are several LeBaron's and related family in prison for various crimes to this very day and it is written about in the book I referenced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmIAnnoying View Post
    The founder of this sect is tied into Warren Jeff's and the Jessop's of the FLDS and had his own family members murder other family members. Lots of violence and crime with this group and that is why they stay in Mexico to avoid American laws .There are several LeBaron's and related family in prison for various crimes to this very day and it is written about in the book I referenced.
    Yes. Under the Banner of Heaven is a great book. Also: The 4 o'clock murders : a true story of a Mormon family's vengence by Scott Anderson.
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    WhatsApp messages flooded Amber Bostwick?s phone last Tuesday as relatives sent harrowing accounts of the slaughter of nine women and children by drug cartel gunmen in northern Mexico.

    The 35-year-old Seattle homemaker had spent much of her life trying to keep away from her parents? self-described fundamentalist branch of the Mormon faith and Colonia LeBaron - her polygamist father?s Mexico community where some of the massacre victims were from.

    But as she listened to the terror of relatives, she realized this threatened her Mexican-American half-siblings who live in Colonia LeBaron and nearby Mormon offshoot communities.

    So she got online and started posting news of the killings and promoting a GoFundMe page set up by her brother for victims.

    The massacre has simply allowed me to support and love family, said Bostwick, a convert to Christianity, whose mother was 15 when she gave birth to her, and who was later adopted by her U.S. grandparents.

    The Nov. 4 killings have traumatized northern Mexico?s breakaway Mormon communities. Some dual-nationality families headed for the safety of the United States on Saturday after the last of their dead were buried.

    But the deaths also brought together different Mormon groups, and even those who fled them, to demand that not only Mexico or the United States but an international taskforce intervene in the country?s endemic violence.

    They need to send experts in building a state of law, said Adrian LeBaron, 58, of Colonia LeBaron, who lost his daughter Rhonita and four grandchildren in the attack. I don't want snipers, I want educators.
    WHATEVER IT TAKES

    Most of the victims of Monday's massacre were from La Mora, a remote Mormon-linked farming village in Sonora around 80 miles (130 km) south of the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Lafe Langford of La Mora, a relative of those killed, said many of his community are lapsed Mormons, few are in polygamous relationships and residents do not tolerate the kind of Mormon prophets Colonia LeBaron has a history of.

    Both La Mora and Colonia leBaron were formed last century by outcast Mormons whose polygamist beliefs were rejected by the mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

    We're going to have to put aside our religious differences and focus on basic rights like liberty and justice,? said LeBaron, whose father was a prophet, and who has four wives, and until Monday, 39 children and 79 grandchildren.

    Langford agreed, saying not only the communities, but Mexico and the United States had to work together on security.

    We call on both countries to unite and bring in the right qualified personnel to do whatever it takes,? said Langford, 33, who splits his time between La Mora and Louisiana. He is fearful at present to settle permanently in Mexico with his seven children.

    La Mora had previously been spared violence that has killed more than 250,000 Mexicans since 2007 and touched Colonia LeBaron.

    But on Monday La Mora?s Miller, Langford and Johnson families suffered the same agony relatives in Colonia LeBaron felt 10 years ago when Benjamin LeBaron and his brother-in-law Luis Widmar were murdered after they stood up to cartel violence.

    Long united by marriages, the communities were pushed closer together as they faced the choice of protecting families, or fleeing homes and farms built over three generations.

    Rosa LeBaron Abbate, another woman who left the fundamentalist faith, said difficult times were coming for Colonia LeBaron and La Mora.

    There are a lot of indignant men in both communities, young, they're going to make a plan, possibly that includes the help of both countries, said LeBaron Abbate, 65. She returned to her birthplace Colonia LeBaron 13 years ago after living in the United States for more than three decades.

    LeBaron Abbate, who manages a Christian church in Colonia LeBaron with her American pastor husband, said she only fully processed the trauma of childhood in a fully fundamentalist Mormon town when she converted to Christianity at age 42.

    She said Mexico had to bury its pride and accept help from the United States or a group of nations.

    They have to wipe these bad men out of Mexico, just like the coalition that goes in to Syria and these places, said LeBaron Abbate, adding that she now has strong relationships with all her family's different sects.

    Back in Seattle, Bostwick said her social media posts on the massacre had connected her with distant relatives in Mexico.

    She had previously built resentments among some of them by speaking up against the atrocities of her parents religion, such as polygamy and underage marriage.

    This is, and is going to, bring the different groups closer together, Bostwick said of the massacre.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/ameri...est/index.html

    A man has been arrested in connection with last year's massacre of nine Mormon American-Mexican citizens on a remote dirt road in northwestern Mexico, officials in that country said Wednesday.

    Plagued by deadly attacks, members of this Mormon community are fleeing Mexico

    The man, "Alfredo L.," was detained in Ciudad Juarez, the Mexican city across the US-Mexico border from El Paso, Texas, the Mexican attorney general's office said.

    He "is a member of a criminal organization with a presence in the north of (Mexico), and is likely a participant in the events that occurred" in the November 4, 2019, killings of the three women and six children in Mexico's Sonora state, the office said.

    The man is being charged with homicide and organized crime, though no details about what led authorities to believe he was involved in the deaths were immediately released.
    The announcement of the arrest came exactly one year after the massacre happened.

    The women and children -- dual US-Mexican citizens and members of an independent Mormon community in Sonora state -- were in three vehicles well outside that community when attackers opened fire on them in two separate locations, authorities said. One of the vehicles was about 10 miles behind the others.

    Eight other children survived the assaults, including a baby found hidden in one vehicle, and a 13-year-old boy who walked about 14 miles back to the Mormon community, La Mora, to seek help.

    Though the victims had different last names, they all had ties to the extended LeBaron family in Mexico.

    Mexican authorities last year said they believed drug cartel members, long a driver of violence in the country, committed the massacre. No arrests were immediately made in the month of the attack.

    Authorities last year offered various theories as to why the shooting happened, but no single definitive explanation was released.

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    https://nypost.com/2020/11/24/allege...mormon-family/

    Alleged cartel boss arrested over slaughter of Mormon family in Mexico

    The alleged boss of a Mexican drug cartel has been busted in connection to the slaughter of three Mormon mothers and their six children last year, according to reports.

    Roberto Gonz?lez Montes, the alleged leader of La L?nea, who is known as “El32” or “El Mudo,” meaning the mute, was arrested as part of a huge multi-agency investigation into the murders in Mexico last November, sources told El Diario on Monday.

    The arrest in the northern province of Chihuahua was confirmed by the local Secretary of State for Public Security, Emilio Garc?a Ruiz, who said Montes had already been flown to Mexico City to be charged before a judge, according to Entrelineas. It was not clear when he was arrested.

    The massacre allegedly came during turf warfare between Montes’ La L?nea and the rival Sinaloa Cartel that was previously led by Joaquin ” El Chapo” Guzman, according to the outlet, citing an Attorney General investigation.

    He was arrested alongside Eulalio Dom?nguez Alan?s and Santiago Casavantes Radovich, who is known as “El Condor,” the sources said.

    The alleged cartel members were arrested by the Office of the Special Prosecutor for Organized Crime Investigation, the Secretary of National Defense, the National Intelligence Center and the navy, El Diario said.

    It was not immediately clear what role the trio is accused of playing in the slaughters of the nine, who were part of a convoy of 17 ambushed while driving to a wedding in the border state of Sonora.

    Death toll climbs in Mexican cartel shootout as more US citizens ID'd

    So far, more than a dozen alleged cartel members have been arrested.

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    I wonder if it was wrong place/wrong time, or if members of the group did something to p double e the cartel off?

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