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    https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-ch...ry?id=64925831




    Federal charges filed against friend of Dayton gunman Connor Betts for allegedly lying on federal firearms forms, authorities say

    By JULIA JACOBO
    Aug 12, 2019, 4:19 PM ET


    Federal charges have been filed against a friend of the gunman who killed nine people in Dayton, Ohio, authorities say.



    Ethan Kollie, 24, allegedly lied on federal firearms forms to purchase his own firearm as well as body armor, 100-round drum magazine and unregulated accessory for an AR-15 weapon that gunman Connor Betts used during the Aug. 4 shooting, according to a criminal complaint filed in the Southern District of Ohio.


    Hours after the shooting, special agents with the FBI and ATF interviewed Kollie at his home in Kettering, Ohio, after he indicated that he had purchased the items for Betts, U.S. Attorney Benjamin Glassman told reporters at a press conference Monday.

    During the course of the initial interview, agents "observed in plain sight" what appeared to be a bong and a pistol and smelled marijuana, Glassman said.



    PHOTO: Ethan Kollie is seen in this undated police handout. Montgomery County Sheriffs Office
    Ethan Kollie is seen in this undated police handout.


    Kollie was interviewed again on Thursday at his place of work, where he allegedly admitted to having done "hard drugs" with Connor as well as marijuana between 2014 and 2015. When agents asked how often he used drugs, he said he had smoked marijuana every day for the past 10 years since he was 14, according to the criminal complaint.

    ATF agents later obtained the Form 4473 Kollie filled out to purchase the pistol they observed at his home.


    When a search warrant was executed at his home, Kollie allegedly admitted to ingesting psychedelic mushrooms and growing them in his home. A pistol, a clear glass bong, a bong and mushrooms were taken from his home and a small bag of marijuana and a revolver were removed, Glassman said.

    He also allegedly stated that he "falsely" indicated on the firearms forms that he was not a user of illegal drugs, saying that he did so because he knew if he answered truthfully he would not receive the firearm, Glassman said.


    A person who unlawfully uses controlled substances cannot possess a firearm, Glassman said, adding that his office "vigorously" prosecutes anyone who falsifies Form 4473.

    Kollie allegedly stated that he purchased and stored the items for Betts at his home to hide them from Betts' parents, Glassman said, adding that in May, Kollie and Betts assembled the upper receiver for the AR-15 in Kollie's home, and a couple of weeks after that, Kollie recalled Betts picking up the magazine drum and body armor after they arrived.


    Kollie was charged with possession of a firearm by a person who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance and with making false statements or representations, according to the criminal complaint. He was arrested and made his initial appearance in court on Friday, Glassman said. He will appear in a detention hearing on Wednesday.

    He could face up a maximum of 15 years in prison if prosecuted, Glassman said. It is unclear if he has retained an attorney.


    Investigators plan to prosecute anyone who is discovered to have "any criminal culpability" or contributed to the events of the shooting, Glassman said. However, there is no evidence that Kollie intentionally participated in the planning of the Dayton shooting, Glassman said.

    Betts, 24, was killed by law enforcement during the shooting.

    Betts allegedly showed signs of extreme misogyny before the shooting, officials briefed on the investigation told ABC News, and he had previously expressed suicidal thoughts and had a fascination with violence, his ex-girlfriend told ABC News.


    Betts had never been charged with any sort of domestic violence despite allegations made by a former acquaintance who allegedly saw him choke a girl he was dating as a teen. Had he been charged, it would have prevented him from obtaining a gun.

    Betts also allegedly made a ?rape list? of female classmates he wanted to sexually assault as well as a ?hit list? that was later found in a school bathroom, The Associated Press reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    This dude is a asshole and a dumb ass. Why wouldn't you think any of what Connor did was suspicious? I would have loved to see the oh shit look in his face when he found out that his friend was the shooter.

    So the parents found out that their daughter was transgendered when she died? Damn. I feel so sorry for their parents.

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    Oh and this is one shooter out of I don't know how many, who probably wasn't racist or a right wing turd. Progress?

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    Well I think we can say for certain that at the very least he was completely unconcerned that he could kill or seriously injure them, or he would've planned it at a time when they hadn't literally travelled to the scene with him.

    Either he wanted them dead or maimed, or he wanted them to witness him committing mass murder & be forced to live the rest of their days with those memories. That much is indisputable

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    The city is having a bit of trouble trying to decide how to divide the money raised, about $2.25 million, among the victims. A lot of people don't want the Betts' to receive any money because even though their daughter was a victim, their son was the shooter. I think they deserve compensation as much as any other family but that's as an outsider.


    Survivors in the Oregon District mass shooting said during a public input meeting that the more than $3 million in donations given to a charitable fund should be split evenly among survivors and families of victims.

    A volunteer committee will take input from two public meetings Monday to decide how best to distribute the charitable gifts from across the nation given in the wake of the Aug. 4 Oregon District mass shooting that took nine lives.

    A draft protocol for distribution of the money has proposed that 75 percent of the total go to “individual applications” for deceased individuals. That amounts to about $2.25 million to the estates or families (the “applicants”) of the nine people killed on Aug. 4 — about $250,000 each.


    Smaller percentages will be set aside for those injured in the shooting event — but only if applicants can document that they saw a physician or were hospitalized within 48 hours of the Aug. 4 event.


    It’s unclear how many people ultimately will seek a share of the funds.

    Dutch Woods II was crawling on East Fifth Street when he said a bullet grazed his leg and lodged in his elbow in the Aug. 4 shootings. He said he drove himself to a hospital not knowing the bullet was still inside him.

    He pronounced the draft protocol “not fair.”

    “We all felt the pain, ” Woods said. “We all are still hurting from it.”

    He added: “I feel like, if you’re going to divide the money, do the right thing and divide it evenly.”

    At a second event Monday night, Mike Turner, the father of Logan Turner who died in the Oregon District, said another fund may be needed to pay victims fairly.

    "I would want everyone whose been affected by this to be taken care of. If we have to start another fund, let's start another fund," he said.


    Oregon District shooting survivors want donations split evenly
    Jerri Jackson of Springfield is the mother of Matt McQuinn, who lost his life seven years ago in the Aurora, Colo. theater mass shooting. She said she attended Monday’s morning meeting to show her support for those hurt on Aug. 4.

    The families affected will need the money, Jackson believes. She said she has not been able to return to work in the wake of her son’s death. “So we lost that income,” she said.

    “There are a lot of things that are going on,” Jackson said. “I’m still in counseling and on sleep medication.”


    Some survivors were outspoken against Megan Betts’ family receiving donations. Megan Betts was among the victims killed by her brother, Connor Betts.

    “I just think that would be an insult to our community, an insult to people who died and to people who are still hurting,” a woman said at the meeting.

    The timeline for disbursement of the gifts has not changed, foundation President Mike Parks said. The final protocol of disbursement will be published at DaytonFoundation.org on Oct. 1. Applications for funds will be available at that website, also.

    The foundation has consulted with communities who have suffered their own mass shootings and shared charitable funds in the wake of those tragedies.

    “I think the process has been based on best practices,” Parks said Monday. “And it’s a good process.”

    Brother Raymond Fitz, the former University of Dayton president who is co-chairing the volunteer committee overseeing the process, said distribution is a “moral problem that will be projected into a formula.”

    “I don’t believe you can quantify it,” Fitz said. “I believe you can listen to all the perceptions and options out there.”

    Those who wish to apply for funds will have the month of October to do so. Applications will be due by 6 p.m. Oct. 31.

    The foundation’s goal is to distribute funds by late November.

    The shooting victims were: Derrick Fudge, 57; Lois Oglesby, 27; Saeed Saleh, 38; Logan Turner, 30; Nicholas Cumer, 25; Thomas McNichols, 25; Beatrice Warren-Curtis, 36; Monica Brickhouse, 39; and Megan Betts, 22. Police also killed the shooter in the event.
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