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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Have you never had someone you loved affected by addiction? No judgement, just legit asking because I am curious.
    I have not.


    And I know you've opened up about your addiction issues in the past, and I completely support you in your recovery and your continuing sobriety because, to me, you are a

    real, live, badass example of what can happen when you fight the demons that haunt you.
    Please know that. It's nothing personal. It just sucks for the commoners because there are so many who need the treatment that opiods provide, because the benefits outweigh the risks. But those benefits only come to the people who can pay top dollar for them.

    I'm just as angry at physicians, even moreso, for their role in this epidemic, they have turned the pain of others into a money circus where those who have the $$ get the pills, and those who legitimately suffer get shunned and undertreated.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevansvault View Post
    I have not.


    And I know you've opened up about your addiction issues in the past, and I completely support you in your recovery and your continuing sobriety because, to me, you are a

    real, live, badass example of what can happen when you fight the demons that haunt you.
    Please know that. It's nothing personal. It just sucks for the commoners because there are so many who need the treatment that opiods provide, because the benefits outweigh the risks. But those benefits only come to the people who can pay top dollar for them.

    I'm just as angry at physicians, even moreso, for their role in this epidemic, they have turned the pain of others into a money circus where those who have the $$ get the pills, and those who legitimately suffer get shunned and undertreated.
    Oh I totally agree that it's awful for the people who need it, and it's now harder for them to get it. I just don't blame addicts for that. Yeah, it's a part of the problem. About 20 year ago (many years before my addiction) my dentist didn't want to give me "too many" vicoden when I had my wisdom teeth pulled so he gave me a such a small prescription - to share with my sister. I was in so much pain and it sucked because I ended up getting an infection and he wouldn't give me anything more. Turns out, a few years later he was arrested because he was doing fraudulent shit and I'm guessing he didn't want to raise any red flags with the painkillers.

    It's just a shitty situation. Do addicts doctor shop to feed their addiction? Sure, some do. But it's usually because they are physically addicted and it could've started with doctor's scripts. People also doctor shop so they can sell the drugs to addicts and make money.

    I was just curious if addiction has touched your life somehow, and if it did you may feel a little differently.


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    https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ys-2021-04-16/

    Four drugmakers, including Johnson & Johnson (JNJ.N) and Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd (TEVA.TA), will go to trial on Monday over claims they helped fuel an opioid crisis that has resulted in nearly 500,000 overdose deaths in the United States.

    The trial is one of several looking to hold companies accountable for the overdose and abuse crisis that are set to take place this year after the coronavirus pandemic delayed litigation, putting renewed pressure on them to enter into multi-billion dollar settlements.

    J&J, Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd (TEVA.TA), Endo International PLC (ENDP.O) and Abbvie's (ABBV.N) Allergan unit are accused by several California counties of deceptively marketing painkillers in ways that downplayed their addictive risks to boost sales.

    If the companies are held liable by Orange County Superior Court Judge Peter Wilson following a trial conducted virtually, the counties say they should have to pay $50 billion to help foot the costs of abating the public nuisance they created plus penalties.


    Opioids have resulted in the overdose deaths of nearly 500,000 people from 1999 to 2019 in the United States, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    "We need these companies to fund what it takes to try to undo the harms that they have caused, and the scope and scale of that is enormous," Santa Clara County Counsel James Williams said in an interview.

    His county is suing the companies along with Los Angeles and Orange counties and the city of Oakland.

    The drugmakers deny wrongdoing, arguing they acted appropriately in marketing medications approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and that the counties cannot prove their promotion of opioids caused the crisis.


    J&J in a statement called its marketing of the drugs "appropriate and responsible," Israel-based Teva said it will defend itself against these "unproven allegations." Endo and Allergan declined to comment.

    More than 3,400 lawsuits brought largely by states and local governments are pending against companies accused of fueling the opioid epidemic.

    The state of Oklahoma in 2019 won a $465 million judgment against J&J in only such trial so far. Opioid cases that were set to go to trial in 2020 were put off as a massive new public health crisis made gathering jurors and lawyers in the same room untenable.



    Some plaintiffs' lawyers said the delays benefited the companies at the cost of states, counties and municipalities who say they need settlements to help pay for the costs of addressing a painkiller addiction epidemic that only grew worse during the coronavirus pandemic.

    The nation's three largest drug distributors - McKesson Corp (MCK.N), AmerisourceBergen Corp (ABC.N) and Cardinal Health Inc (CAH.N) - and J&J have proposed paying a combined $26 billion to resolve the cases against them.

    The proposal, a version of which was first put forward in 2019, has yet to be finalized, and some plaintiffs lawyers say that only with trials will they and other companies come to the table to finalize payouts.

    "They keep putting off the day of judgment," Elizabeth Chamblee Burch, a law professor at University of Georgia, said of the companies. "You really need trials to create that moment of pressure."

    Next month, a closely-watched case is set to go to trial in West Virginia accusing the three drug distributors of ignoring red flags indicating the highly addictive painkillers were being diverted for improper uses. They deny the allegations.

    That case will be followed in June by a jury trial in New York against several drugmakers and distributors, which was delayed on the eve of trial in March 2020 because of the pandemic.

    "The day of reckoning is coming," said Hunter Shkolnik, a lawyer at Napoli Shkolnik who is representing New York's Nassau County. "They've been able to slow roll because there was no trial like looming over their heads. Now they have a trial."

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