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    LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — Results for election votes in the state of Nevada can be found on this page including an interactive graphic that provides presidential results by each Nevada county. Note to reader: If you are viewing these results from our 8 News Now APP, click here:

    Democrat Joe Biden was projected the winner in Nevada on Saturday, adding to his Electoral College victory over President Donald Trump, according to the Associated Press.

    President-elect Joe Biden now has more than 50% support in Nevada, and has widened his lead over Trump to 2.76%, or 36,870 votes.

    Both Democrats, Rep. Steven Horsford and Rep. Susie Lee, successfully won reelection in Nevada’s two battleground congressional districts.

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    Ding dong the idiot is gone! I for one really dislike Trump. What a dark time in our country. Thank God that it's over. What other country voted in the first Black president, a racist, and then a Black VP?! That's what makes this country great. Love defeats hate. Light defeats darkness
    Kindness defeats apathy.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/busin...nvs/index.html

    Roger Stone is behind the Vote rigging conspiracy theory

    CNN)It is an internet battle cry: Stop the Steal has swept across inboxes, Facebook pages and Twitter like an out-of-control virus, spreading misinformation and violent rhetoric -- and spilling into real life, like the protest planned for DC this weekend.
    But while Stop the Steal may sound like a new 2020 political slogan to many, it did not emerge organically over widespread concerns about voting fraud in President Donald Trump's race against Joe Biden. It has been in the works for years.
    Its origin traces to Roger Stone, a veteran Republican operative and self-described "dirty trickster" whose 40-month prison sentence for seven felonies was cut short by Trump's commutation in July.
    Stone's political action committee launched a "Stop the Steal" website in 2016 to fundraise ahead of that election, asking for $10,000 donations by saying, "If this election is close, THEY WILL STEAL IT."
    He first trotted out the slogan during the 2016 primaries -- claiming a "Bush-Cruz-Kasich-Romney-Ryan-McConnell faction" was attempting to steal the Republican nomination from Donald Trump -- before re-upping Stop the Steal for the general election.
    "Donald Trump thinks Hillary Clinton and the Democrats are going to steal the next election," his website said that October.
    Stop the Steal briefly resurfaced around the midterms in 2018 -- with Republicans employing the hashtag during a recount in a neck-and-neck Florida race for U.S. Senate -- but it wasn't until 2020 that it really caught fire.
    A Stop the Steal Facebook group was managed by a loose coalition of right wing operatives, some of whom have worked with former Trump adviser Steve Bannon. The group amassed hundreds of thousands of followers in little more than a day before Facebook shut it down on November 5 -- the day after it was launched.
    Also on November 5, Bannon started his own "Stop the Steal" Facebook group; he changed the name to "Own Your Vote" the following day. It was not removed by Facebook, but the social media company did later remove several other pages affiliated with Bannon.
    "We've removed several clusters of activity for using inauthentic behavior tactics to artificially boost how many people saw their content," said Andy Stone, a Facebook spokesman. "That includes a group that was originally named Stop the Steal, which later became Gay Communists for Socialism and misled people about its purpose using deceptive tactics."
    Spinoff pages sprung up soon after like brush fires, with Facebook struggling to quickly snuff out the spreaders of bogus information.
    All the while, Roger Stone and Bannon have been in full disinformation mode. Stone has appeared on the show of far-right radio commentator Alex Jones to trumpet groundless claims that Biden is trying to steal the election; Bannon is echoing similar conspiracy theories on his podcast, calling the election "a mass fraud."
    "We're calling it a fraud or we're calling it a steal -- stop the steal," he said on a November 4 episode.
    Despite efforts by Facebook to shut down the misleading content, it was too late. The cluster of groups and pages -- which altogether had amassed 2.5 million followers, according to an analysis by activist group Avaaz -- had seeded a jungle of misinformation that is being shared -- and believed -- by millions of Americans.

    "I would not consider this a grassroots movement by any means," said Ben Decker, the CEO and founder of Memetica, a digital investigations consultancy. "Stop the Steal is a highly coordinated partisan political operation intent on bringing together conspiracy theorists, militias, hate groups and Trump supporters to attack the integrity of our election."
    The movement has also migrated to in-person events, Decker said, manifesting itself "in a variety of offline rallies and protests featuring a number of participants that are often armed."
    Some of the violent rhetoric associated with the campaign has come from its own leaders.
    "Clean your guns," said Dustin Stockton, one of the administrators of the Facebook Stop the Steal group, on a Facebook Live Stream video to his followers. "Things are going to get worse before they get better."
    Stockton acknowledged CNN's request for comment but didn't respond to questions. Stockton previously told CNN he did not see any messages within the group "calling for violence outside of what is common political hyperbole." He said Facebook's removal of the page was "out of line and they should restore it immediately."
    Stop the Steal triggered voter-intimidation lawsuits in 2016
    When Stone launched Stop the Steal in 2016, it wasn't just a campaign slogan and fundraising website -- it also became a self-described "vote protectors" project that sought volunteers to monitor polling places. Stone told CNN this week that the purpose of the group was "to insure the integrity of the vote."
    The project triggered a slew of federal lawsuits just before Election Day by Democratic parties in six battleground states accusing Stone and affiliates of trying to intimidate minority voters in the cities where he intended to send volunteers.
    A federal suit filed in Ohio, for instance, accused Stone's Stop the Steal project of violating the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 by "conspiring to intimidate, threaten, harass, or coerce voters on Election Day."
    A judge granted a temporary restraining order against the group, but it was lifted on appeal.
    Today, StopTheSteal.org redirects to Stone's personal web page, "StoneColdTruth.com," where Stone has been posting conspiracy theories about "widespread voter fraud."

    This week, he appeared on Alex Jones's show, where Stone groundlessly pronounced that Biden's election was a "hoax" and made a plug for Stop the Steal.
    "I think our headline is Join the Patriots in Washington, D.C. this weekend to protest the hoax that is the theft of this election and demand that we Stop the Steal," he said, adding, "hashtag Stop the Steal."
    In an email, Stone responded pugnaciously to a question from CNN about whether the current Stop the Steal movement is a recycled version of the false narrative of mass voter fraud he led years before.
    "As for the lack of evidence that is the mantra of all you flying monkeys," he wrote. "It's like denying the Holocaust. The evidence is overwhelming and compelling, despite the framing of your question."
    Stone defended the recycling of the slogan in his email, attempting to draw a parallel to other mass protests that share a theme, such as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington in 1963 and The Million Man March -- a gathering of Black men in Washington, DC, in 1995.
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    Stone distanced himself from Bannon, referring to him as an "enemy of the people." Bannon didn't respond to messages from CNN seeking comment.
    This fall, as the 2020 election drew closer, there was talk in right wing circles of dusting off the Stop the Steal campaign again -- but not by Stone.
    "I'm thinking about bringing Stop the Steal out of retirement," said right wing activist Ali Alexander, formerly known as Ali Akbar, in a video he circulated on social media in September. "In the next coming days we are going to build the infrastructure to stop the steal."
    Alexander, a controversial figure on the right whose tweets about Jewish journalists have raised eyebrows, says he employed a successful Stop the Steal campaign during the 2018 midterms in Florida.
    This year, Alexander's company registered another Stop the Steal website -- StoptheSteal.us -- on November 4.
    Alexander did not directly respond to CNN's questions for this story.
    Also on November 4, the Stop the Steal Facebook group was launched by an organization led by a woman with ties to Stone's ex-wife and managed by a team of several conservative activists, some with close connections to Bannon.
    Amy Kremer is the chair of Women for America First -- an organization which created the Stop the Steal Facebook group, according to Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD), a London-based think tank that monitors online polarization and extremism. Kremer was a lead Tea Party organizer who also started a super PAC with Stone's ex-wife, Ann Stone, called Women Vote Trump.
    In an emailed response to a set of questions from CNN, Kremer did not deny that Stop the Steal is a planned, recycled version of a similar gambit. She declined to answer a question about the extent to which she was coordinating the Stop the Steal efforts with high-profile right wing operatives, but said: "We welcome the support and involvement of any individual who is concerned about the integrity of our elections and who supports President Trump."
    The administrators for the Stop the Steal Facebook group also included Dustin Stockton and Jennifer Lawrence, a couple who have both written for Breitbart -- where Bannon once served as executive chairman, according to ISD. Both also were part of Bannon's core team for We Build the Wall, an ill-fated crowdfunding campaign for Trump's border wall that led to the arrest this summer of Bannon and three associates on suspicion of using hundreds of thousands of dollars in proceeds for personal expenses. Stockton and Lawrence were not among those arrested and indicted in August, but their recreational vehicle was raided by federal agents as a part of the probe. Bannon pleaded not guilty to the charges.
    In an interview last week, Stockton told CNN that the Facebook group had had no contact with Bannon prior to its November 4 creation or while it was active.
    "We haven't been able to speak to anyone from that circle since August and the indictments," he said.

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    Roger Stone looks like someone took a head shot of someone else and then photo-shopped the features from a much smaller face onto that head. His facial features only take up about 1/2 of the face compared to normal people.

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    Apparently the Vote Rigging Conspiracy has been renamed as Maga March in Washington D.C.


    WASHINGTON — Thousands of people came to the Million MAGA March on Saturday, but many of them didn't wear masks. That's despite DC's mask mandate.

    Our WUSA9's Mike Valerio reported from Freedom Plaza that it seemed a majority of the protesters gathered were not wearing masks.

    Many protesters were in DC to support unfounded election fraud claims and to support President Donald Trump's re-election campaign. There were a few counter-protesters also in the area, but not many.


    Most people who wore masks included families and older people, according to what our WUSA9 reporters at Freedom Plaza saw.

    For those wearing masks at Freedom Plaza, a lot of them had American flag or patriotic-themed masks. There were also masks that read "Trump 2024."

    While there have been protests for a variety of reasons this summer and fall that have broken social distancing guidelines, this is one of the first times we've seen protests where the wearing of masks was almost completely ignored by those who were in attendance.

    DC's mask mandate includes the following requirements:

    1. Persons leaving their residences shall wear a mask when they are likely to come into contact with another person, such as being within six feet of another person for more than a fleeting time; and

    2. Persons who are operating or a passenger in a taxi or a vehicle that is part of a Transportation Network Company, or who are a passenger on or operator of any form of public transit in the District, including a bus, subway, streetcar, shuttle bus or van, or school bus, must wear a mask at all such times.

    (*There are stipulations for this mandate when exercising in Washington D.C.)

    President Trump himself circled Freedom Plaza around 10 a.m. in his Secret Service-protected caravan, waving to the crowd from his car. He did not leave his protected vehicle or directly expose himself to his supporters that were or were not wearing masks.


    DC officials have not commented on seeing thousands in its city not wearing masks while protesting, but WUSA9 will bring you more once a statement is provided.

    DC, Maryland and Virginia have stressed the need for regional communities to wear masks in the midst of the second wave of rising COVID-19 cases across the United States.

    Maryland's Gov. Larry Hogan (R) has been one of the most outspoken Republicans on using masks. Something that his party's politicians have been split on. With some more right-wing parts of the party not justifying the use of masks to stop the COVID-19 spread.

    “It’s not that hard, just wear a damn mask," Hogan said in a news conference of Maryland's COVID-19 cases. "The truth is that this virus will be with us well into next year, and our worst time may be over the next few months."


    Both Virginia's Gov. Ralph Northam (D) and DC's Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) have also pleaded with communities to wear masks.

    Northam has also put more restrictions in Virginia due to combating the national rise in COVID-19 cases.

    Virginia's newest restrictions include a limit on public gatherings, indoor and outdoor, which are now reduced to 25 people. Also, alcohol sales must stop at 10 p.m. and bars, restaurants must close at midnight.

    "COVID-19 is surging across the country, and while cases are not rising in Virginia as rapidly as in some other states, I do not intend to wait until they are. We are acting now to prevent this health crisis from getting worse,” Northam said in a news release to media last week about the updated COVID-19 restrictions.

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    Last Friday, the National Park Service issued an updated permit for one of the rallies, upping the participant size from 50 to 10,000.

    The National Parks Service was not able to provide an estimate of the crowd size Saturday. Around 1 p.m., demonstrators began moving from Freedom Plaza to the Supreme Court.

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    WASHINGTON — Multiple people were arrested at protests in DC on Saturday.

    Scores of President Donald Trump's supporters arrived at Freedom Plaza in downtown D.C. ahead of a planned march to the Supreme Court, backing the president's unfounded claims that the election is being stolen.

    The Metropolitan Police Department said it arrested 10 people for a variety of reasons at the protests on Saturday. The U.S. Police Police said it arrested an additional person for simple assault.

    Preliminarily report for arrests at Saturday's MAGA/Pro-Trump protests:

    4 subjects for Firearm Violations
    2 subjects for Simple Assault
    1 subject for No Permit
    1 subject for Assault on a Police Officer
    2 subjects for Affray/Disorderly Conduct
    1 subject arrested for simple assault (This is the one arrest by U.S. Park Police.)

    Neither police departments gave specific stories or reasoning for arrests that were made. Just charges that the people arrested may face.

    There were counterprotesters near Freedom Plaza around the same time the pro-Trump rallies started. But it is not known if any of these arrests stem from clashes.here likely may be more arrests in DC amid clashes in protests groups Saturday night.

    Flag burning, group clashes and fireworks are among a variety of things being seen in Freedom Plaza following pro-Trump rallies in DC on Saturday. Both left-wing and right-wing groups are alleged to be in Washington right now.

    WUSA9 reporters have heard chants from the right-wing group Proud Boys.

    There are reports that the left-wing group Antifa may be in the area, but WUSA9 is still working to confirm all groups that are involved.

    Metropolitan Police Department (DC Police) officers have responded and are down in Freedom Plaza following the fireworks, flashbangs and group clashes.

    It is not known at this time if anyone arrested is a part of a certain group or not.

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    Lets Look back at past Transitions.






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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Roger Stone looks like someone took a head shot of someone else and then photo-shopped the features from a much smaller face onto that head. His facial features only take up about 1/2 of the face compared to normal people.
    Did you see his deposition video? I almost felt sorry for him. You could tell that he was a drug addict. It was unhinged, and that's about the nicest thing that I can say about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLanders View Post


    Fake news! That doesn't look like 10 million people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queena View Post
    Did you see his deposition video? I almost felt sorry for him. You could tell that he was a drug addict. It was unhinged, and that's about the nicest thing that I can say about him.
    Yeah, but he's the root of a lot of this evil. Drug addict or not, I can't feel sorry for him.

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    Yes as expected trump incited a riot

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/linc...phones-2020-11

    Hell No Lincoln Project got lock from Twitter and was accused of going after Trump's Lawyers over the election lawsuits. The Lincoln was about to go to court for fighting against Trump on the COVID-19 issue.

    The Lincoln Project was briefly locked out of Twitter on Tuesday after sharing the contact details of two lawyers working on President Donald Trump's election challenges.

    The Lincoln Project, a political action committee founded by a group of Republicans against Trump, tweeted the work phone numbers, email addresses, and photos of Ronald Hicks and Carolyn McGee to its 2.7 million followers. The tweet has since been deleted, but Business Insider has seen an archived copy.

    "Make them famous," the group added.

    Hicks and McGee, who work at Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, are challenging the result in Pennsylvania on behalf of the Trump campaign and calling for thousands of votes to be invalidated. As of Wednesday morning, President-elect Joe Biden was ahead by about 47,800 votes in the state, according to Decision Desk HQ.

    Twitter told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that The Lincoln Project's tweet violated its rules on abusive behavior and must be deleted before account access could be restored.

    "The account owner will be required to delete the violative Tweet before regaining access to their account," a Twitter representative told the outlet.

    The Lincoln Project tweeted again early Wednesday, indicating the ban had been lifted.

    Kurt Bardella, a senior advisor to The Lincoln Project, told The Daily Beast: "The information that was posted came directly from Donald Trump's own website and press release. Who knew that posting information that was put into the public domain by Donald Trump violated Twitter's rules?"

    Insider and Decision Desk HQ called Pennsylvania for Biden on Friday, and other major news outlets made the call the next day.

    But Trump cried foul on Saturday, making baseless claims that "tens of thousands of votes" were "illegally received" in Pennsylvania.

    There is no evidence to support claims of voter fraud or electoral fraud. A group of 28 international election observers has said it found no signs of foul play during the election.
    The Lincoln Project announced on Tuesday that it was launching an advertising campaign targeting Jones Day and Porter Wright, two law firms representing the Trump campaign in its legal challenges.

    The Lincoln Project asked its followers on Twitter to contact employees of the firms and "ask them how they can work for an organization trying to overturn the will of the American people."

    Porter Wright deleted its Twitter account late Tuesday amid a barrage of abuse, The Associated Press reported.

    In a rare breaking of ranks by the standards of major law firms, several employees of Jones Day and Porter Wright told The New York Times that they were uncomfortable that their firms were helping Trump in his litigation with Pennsylvania, saying they feared their employers were helping to undermine US democracy

    One lawyer from Porter Wright quit in protest, The Times said.

    In a statement, Jones Day disputed reports that it was working with Trump on election-fraud claims.

    "Jones Day is not representing President Trump, his campaign, or any affiliated party in any litigation alleging voter fraud," it said, adding that it was "representing the Pennsylvania GOP in pending litigation brought by private parties in April 2020 and the Pennsylvania Democratic Party in August 2020."

    The Trump campaign and Republicans have filed more than a dozen lawsuits in several battleground states to challenge the election results.



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    https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/1-...ction-protest/

    After several thousand supporters of President Donald Trump protested the election results and marched to the Supreme Court, nighttime clashes with counterdemonstrators led to fistfights, at least one stabbing and more than 20 arrests.

    Several other cities on Saturday also saw gatherings of Trump supporters unwilling to accept Democrat Joe Biden’s Electoral College and popular vote victory as legitimate. Cries of “Stop the Steal” and “Count Every Vote” rang out despite a lack of evidence of voter fraud or other problems that could reverse the result.

    The demonstrations in the nation’s capital went from tense to violent during the night and early Sunday. Videos posted on social media showed fights, projectiles and clubs as Trump backers sparred with those demanding they take their MAGA hats and banners and leave. Police said they made 21 arrests on a variety of charges, including assault and weapons possession, and recovered eight firearms. Four officers were injured. No arrest has been made in the stabbing, and the victim was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries.

    Trump himself had given an approving nod to the gathering Saturday morning by sending his motorcade through streets lined with supporters before rolling on to his Virginia golf club. People chanted “USA, USA” and “four more years,” and many carried American flags and signs to show their displeasure with the vote tally and insistence that, as Trump has baselessly asserted, fraud was the reason.

    “I just want to keep up his spirits and let him know we support him,” said one loyalist, Anthony Whittaker of Winchester, Virginia. He was outside the Supreme Court, where a few thousand assembled after a march along Pennsylvania Avenue from Freedom Plaza, near the White House.

    A broad coalition of top government and industry officials has declared that the Nov. 3 voting and the following count unfolded smoothly with no more than the usual minor hiccups — “the most secure in American history,” they said, repudiating Trump’s efforts to undermine the integrity of the contest.

    In Delray Beach, Florida, several hundred people marched, some carrying signs reading “Count every vote” and “We cannot live under a Marxist government.” In Lansing, Michigan, protesters gathered at the Capitol to hear speakers cast doubt on results that showed Biden winning the state by more than 140,000 votes. Phoenix police estimated 1,500 people gathered outside the Arizona Capitol to protest Biden’s narrow victory in the state. Protesters in Salem, Oregon, gathered at the Capitol.

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    Among the speakers in Washington was a Georgia Republican newly elected to the U.S. House. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has expressed racist views and support for QAnon conspiracy theories, urged people to march peacefully toward the Supreme Court.

    The marchers included members of the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist group known for street brawling with ideological opponents at political rallies.

    Multiple confrontations appeared later in the day as small groups of Trump supporters attempted to enter the area around Black Lives Matter Plaza, about a block from the White House, where several hundred anti-Trump demonstrators had gathered.

    In a pattern that kept repeating itself, those Trump supporters who approached the area were harassed, doused with water and saw their MAGA hats and pro-Trump flags snatched and burned, amid cheers. As night fell, multiple police lines kept the two sides apart.

    Videos posted on social media showed some demonstrators and counterdemonstrators trading shoves, punches and slaps. A man with a bullhorn yelling “Get out of here!” was shoved and pushed to the street by a man who was then surrounded by several people and shoved and punched until he fell face first into the street. Bloody and dazed, he was picked up and walked to a police officer.

    The “Million MAGA March” was heavily promoted on social media, raising concerns that it could spark conflict with anti-Trump demonstrators, who have gathered near the White House in Black Lives Matter Plaza for weeks.

    In preparation, police closed off wide swaths of downtown, where many stores and offices have been boarded up since Election Day. Chris Rodriguez, director of the city’s Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency, said the police were experienced at keeping the peace.

    The issues that Trump’s campaign and its allies have pointed to are typical in every election: problems with signatures, secrecy envelopes and postal marks on mail-in ballots, as well as the potential for a small number of ballots miscast or lost. With Biden leading Trump by wide margins in key battleground states, none of those issues would have any impact on the outcome of the election.

    A former administration official, Sebastian Gorka, whipped up the crowd by the Supreme Court by saying, “We can win because he did win.” But, he added, “It’s going to be tough.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
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    Zero evidence of voter fraud in any state, officials report to NYT
    Wait until December or January when all of this is resolved.

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    https://fox40.com/news/your-local-el...ng-on-tuesday/

    WILMINGTON, Del. (NewsNation Now) — President-elect Joe Biden and vice president-elect Kamala Harris will receive a national security briefing on Tuesday, according to their official schedule.

    A source close to the transition team told NewsNation that the briefing will be conducted by former U.S. government officials because “ascertainment” has not been obtained by the General Services Administration.

    What’s ascertainment? The green light to launch transition
    Earlier on Monday, Biden warned of “dire consequences” if President Donald Trump and his administration refused to coordinate with his transition team on the coronavirus pandemic and block briefings on national security, policy issues and vaccine plans.

    “More people may die if we don’t coordinate,” Biden told reporters during a news conference in Wilmington, Delaware.

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    More on the transition

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Joe Biden is expected to take a historic step and select a woman to head the Pentagon for the first time, shattering one of the few remaining barriers to women in the department and the presidential Cabinet.

    Michele Flournoy, a politically moderate Pentagon veteran, is regarded by U.S. officials and political insiders as a top choice for the position.

    Her selection would come on the heels of a tumultuous Pentagon period that has seen five men hold the top job under President Donald Trump. The most recent defense secretary to go was Mark Esper, who was fired by Trump on Monday after pushing back on issues including troop withdrawals and the use of the military to quell civilian unrest.

    If confirmed, Flournoy would face a future that is expected to involve shrinking Pentagon budgets and potential military involvement in the distribution of a coronavirus vaccine.

    Democrats have long sought to name a woman to the top post in a department that didn’t open all combat jobs to female service members until about five years ago. Flournoy had been the expected choice of Hillary Clinton if she had won the 2016 election. Her name surfaced early as a front-runner for Biden’s Cabinet, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters.

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    Seen as a steady hand who favors strong military cooperation abroad, Flournoy, 59, has served multiple times in the Pentagon, starting in the 1990s and most recently as the undersecretary of defense for policy from 2009 to 2012. She serves on the board of Booz Allen Hamilton, a defense contractor, which could raise concerns from some lawmakers. But her moderate views would likely ensure wide bipartisan support in a position that requires Senate confirmation.

    Few other names have been mentioned, though former Department of Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson was listed as a possible choice at one point. Choosing a woman would be consistent with Biden’s pledge to have a diverse Cabinet.

    She has been outspoken on American foreign and defense policy, particularly over the past year. She favors closer international cooperation after four years of a Trump White House that touted an “America First” policy and was more distrustful and critical of allies.

    “Whoever the next president is,” she said in March, “whether it’s a second Trump term or Vice President Biden or whoever it is, one of the top agenda items is going to try to, I think, repair some of that perception” that America may no longer be a reliable partner. “But I don’t think it’s going to be easy or happen overnight. I think it’s going to take a lot of work over a number of years to recover that trust and that standing.”

    She has also cautioned against drastic, immediate changes.

    “One of the most dangerous tendencies is for — after a change of administration, particularly when there’s a change of party — for the new team to come in and use the term ‘repudiation.’ But to come in and assume that everything their predecessors did was wrong, you know, they throw the baby out with the bathwater, basically, and they overcorrect in another direction,” she said in a Hudson Institute forum.

    Arnold Punaro, a retired Marine two-star general and former staff director of the Senate Armed Services Committee under then-Democratic Sen. Sam Nunn of Georgia, said recently that he regards Flournoy as “incredibly well-qualified” to lead the Pentagon.

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    The Defense Department is one of three Cabinet agencies — the others being Treasury and Veterans Affairs — that have never been led by a woman. Some of the 28 men who have held the top defense job since it was created in 1947, including three who served in Trump’s administration — Jim Mattis, Esper and current acting Secretary Christopher Miller — have been military veterans. Flournoy did not serve in the military.

    Like Mattis and Esper, Flournoy views China as the most significant long-term challenge to American predominance on the world stage. In July, she said the United States is losing its military technological advantage over key competitors like China and that reversing this trend must be the Pentagon’s top priority.

    She has, however, also warned against abandoning the Middle East and instead advocates “more modest levels of continuous presence” there. As an example, she has backed a limited role in Afghanistan that focuses more on countering the terror threat and less on rebuilding the country.

    “We want to reduce our commitment, but we want to do it in a way that’s smart and that safeguards our interests in the process,” she said in March about Afghanistan, adding that she hopes “we don’t just cut and run.” Trump has pushed for a full troop withdrawal from Afghanistan by the end of the year, but so far the Pentagon has no orders to do that.

    On North Korea, she said in an October online forum that while nuclear disarmament should remain the ultimate goal, she finds it “hard to see” Kim Jong Un agreeing to give up all his nuclear weapons, which she said he sees as his regime’s “survival card.”

    On Iran, Flournoy has argued for a revised approach of deterring the Islamic Republic by breaking the familiar pattern of sending more American forces to the Gulf in response to Iranian provocations, as the Trump administration did in May 2019 after what it called credible threats to U.S. interests in the region.

    Flournoy is a co-founder of Westexec Advisors, a consulting firm that provides advice and geopolitical risk analysis to corporate clients. She works with a mixture of former senior government officials — including Antony Blinken, a former deputy secretary of state and currently Biden’s top foreign policy adviser — and military experts such as retired Army Gen. Vincent Brooks, who led U.S. forces in Korea until 2019.

    In 2007, Flournoy helped create a think tank, the Center for a New American Security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I was the one who voted that Biden would win but Trump would steal the election through legal means. All of his lawsuits have been bullshit and the courts have seen right through them, but I am concerned about this strategy because some of these Republican legislators are almost as unscrupulous as he is.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    Can Trump override the popular vote?
    Trump is so hated, I think that people will drag him out. There are some brave fearless people out here. I don't think that he'll be able to steal the election. I can't wait until he's out of office. He's g to Twitter jail and Letitia James the NY AG has a few things to talk to him about. My hope is that all of them but especially Jared and Stephen Miller and that vapid bitch Ivanka go to jail.

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    https://www.8newsnow.com/news/politi...ection-nevada/

    LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — A Clark County judge denied a request Friday to deem Nevada’s mail-in voting law unconstitutional and call for a new election.

    The Election Integrity Project had submitted an emergency request for the election to be thrown out, citing allegations of voter fraud and illegal voting. Joel Hanson, the lawyer for the group, cited thousands of cases where people who no longer live in Nevada registered to vote in the state.

    Judge Gloria Sturman said those voters may live out of state temporarily. She said it was in the public interest to keep elected officers in office and that the court has to presume people voted legally until proven otherwise.

    “We’re going to throw out an entire election and have everybody run for office all over again simply because somebody voted who had moved — I’m just really struggling with why on an emergency basis we would throw out an election,” she said.


    Sturman also cited her own race, adding if she threw out the election, she may not have a job on Jan. 1. Nevada elects judges, and Sturman won her uncontested race.

    “An attempt to throw out the entire election and the legal votes of hundreds of thousands of Nevadans without legal justification undermines our election process and our democracy,” Attorney General Aaron Ford said in a statement. “Assembly Bill 4 was enacted because of the coronavirus pandemic and proved to be successful in allowing thousands of citizens to vote and limit their potential exposure to the virus. All evidence shows that Nevada’s election was fair, safe, and secure, and time and again, the Court has agreed. Nevadans voted and chose their president-elect. It’s time to move on.”

    The case was not dismissed and future hearings could be scheduled.

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    Yeah file that under "things that will never happen"

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bc9_story.html
    A lawsuit brought by President Trump?s campaign that sought to block the certification of Pennsylvania?s election results was dismissed by a federal judge on Saturday evening.

    U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann granted a request from Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar to dismiss the suit, which alleged that Republicans had been illegally disadvantaged because some counties allowed voters to fix errors on their mail ballots.

    The judge?s decision, which he explained in a scathing 37-page opinion, was a thorough rebuke of the president?s sole attempt to challenge the statewide result in Pennsylvania.

    Rudolph W. Giuliani, Trump?s attorney, personally took charge of the case and appeared at a hearing in Williamsport, Pa., Tuesday in an attempt to justify it. Five other attorneys who represented the president withdrew from the case.

    In his order, Brann wrote that Trump?s campaign had used ?strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations? in its effort to throw out millions of votes.

    ?In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state,? Brann wrote.

    Trump was beaten in Pennsylvania by President-elect Joe Biden, who currently holds a lead over the president of more than 81,000 votes. Counties are due to file their official results on Monday to Boockvar, who will then certify the statewide tallies.

    Trump?s campaign sued Boockvar and a group of counties won by Biden, alleging that they had violated the campaign?s constitutional rights by allowing voters to ?cure? administrative errors on their mail ballots.

    Brann wrote on Saturday that Trump?s attorneys had haphazardly stitched this allegation together ?like Frankenstein?s Monster? in an attempt to avoid unfavorable legal precedent.

    In trying to depict ?ballot curing? as illegal, Trump?s attorneys misstated a decision by Pennsylvania?s Supreme Court. Brann noted in his order on Saturday that the court had in fact ?declined to explicitly answer whether such a policy is necessarily forbidden.?

    The president?s campaign sued together with two voters from counties that Trump won, both of whom had their mail ballots rejected because of administrative errors.

    Brann wrote on Saturday that throwing out the election result would not reinstate the pair?s right to vote. ?It would simply deny more than 6.8 million people their right to vote,? the judge wrote.

    Trump?s lawsuit initially included formal allegations that the defendants had also violated the campaign?s rights by preventing Republican observers from watching votes being counted, which the defendants denied.

    Those claims were scrapped in a revised version of the suit filed on Sunday. Giuliani and other Trump advisers initially denied that the claims had been dropped, then said they had ?strategically decided to restructure? the suit, before finally saying in court filings that the claims were removed by mistake.

    Giuliani asked the judge for permission to restore the deleted claims about count observers in a proposed third version of the lawsuit, but his request was dismissed by Brann along with the rest of the campaign?s legal effort.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bc9_story.html
    A lawsuit brought by President Trump?s campaign that sought to block the certification of Pennsylvania?s election results was dismissed by a federal judge on Saturday evening.

    U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann granted a request from Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar to dismiss the suit, which alleged that Republicans had been illegally disadvantaged because some counties allowed voters to fix errors on their mail ballots.

    The judge?s decision, which he explained in a scathing 37-page opinion, was a thorough rebuke of the president?s sole attempt to challenge the statewide result in Pennsylvania.

    Rudolph W. Giuliani, Trump?s attorney, personally took charge of the case and appeared at a hearing in Williamsport, Pa., Tuesday in an attempt to justify it. Five other attorneys who represented the president withdrew from the case.

    In his order, Brann wrote that Trump?s campaign had used ?strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations? in its effort to throw out millions of votes.

    ?In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state,? Brann wrote.

    Trump was beaten in Pennsylvania by President-elect Joe Biden, who currently holds a lead over the president of more than 81,000 votes. Counties are due to file their official results on Monday to Boockvar, who will then certify the statewide tallies.

    Trump?s campaign sued Boockvar and a group of counties won by Biden, alleging that they had violated the campaign?s constitutional rights by allowing voters to ?cure? administrative errors on their mail ballots.

    Brann wrote on Saturday that Trump?s attorneys had haphazardly stitched this allegation together ?like Frankenstein?s Monster? in an attempt to avoid unfavorable legal precedent.

    In trying to depict ?ballot curing? as illegal, Trump?s attorneys misstated a decision by Pennsylvania?s Supreme Court. Brann noted in his order on Saturday that the court had in fact ?declined to explicitly answer whether such a policy is necessarily forbidden.?

    The president?s campaign sued together with two voters from counties that Trump won, both of whom had their mail ballots rejected because of administrative errors.

    Brann wrote on Saturday that throwing out the election result would not reinstate the pair?s right to vote. ?It would simply deny more than 6.8 million people their right to vote,? the judge wrote.

    Trump?s lawsuit initially included formal allegations that the defendants had also violated the campaign?s rights by preventing Republican observers from watching votes being counted, which the defendants denied.

    Those claims were scrapped in a revised version of the suit filed on Sunday. Giuliani and other Trump advisers initially denied that the claims had been dropped, then said they had ?strategically decided to restructure? the suit, before finally saying in court filings that the claims were removed by mistake.

    Giuliani asked the judge for permission to restore the deleted claims about count observers in a proposed third version of the lawsuit, but his request was dismissed by Brann along with the rest of the campaign?s legal effort.
    Its a crazy circle here https://fox40.com/news/political-con...sylvania-vote/

    HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — President Donald Trump is appealing a federal judge’s dismissal of his campaign’s effort to block the certification of votes in Pennsylvania.

    The president and other plaintiffs filed notice of appeal to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Sunday, a day after the judge issued a scathing order shooting down claims of widespread irregularities with mail-in ballots.

    The case was always a long shot to stop President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, but given Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes at stake, it was the campaign’s best hope to affect the election results through the courts. Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, appeared in court for the first time in decades to argue the case this past week.

    U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Brann wrote in his order that Trump had asked the court to disenfranchise almost 7 million voters. In seeking such a “startling outcome,” he said, a plaintiff could be expected to provide compelling legal arguments and “factual proof of rampant corruption” — but “That has not happened.”

    The campaign also filed a motion Sunday night asking for an expedited hearing Wednesday as they seek to amend the Pennsylvania lawsuit that Brann dismissed before the state certifies its election results next month.

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    Has any other president done this shit before??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Has any other president done this shit before??
    Nope, never in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Nope, never in history.
    Makes me wonder if some people who voted for him, are regretting it now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Makes me wonder if some people who voted for him, are regretting it now.
    https://www.youtube.com/c/Republican...stTrump/videos

    Check this link out called Republicans against Trump there are Ex-Republicans who have come forward but this is under fear that Donald Trump's thugs would go after them at the voting booth. This group is a combination of ex-Trump voters and people who left the Republican Party in 2016 coming forward with all the known allegations on Trump.



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