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    Jimmie Bruner Jr (47) jumped to his death from the Sunshine Skyway Bridge

    http://mydeathspace.com/article/2018..._Skyway_Bridge

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    Anon, Male jumper tonight on north bound peak at about 11:30 PM. Newer Black or dark VW Jetta or Passat. When I passed I saw car pulled over and man sitting on concrete barrier with feet over side. I pulled over and called 911. Then tried talking to him. When an off duty St Pete police officer arrived in his patrol vehicle jumper immediately put his body over side and hung from barrier by his hands then let go. We heard him hit the water. Please give update on jumpers condition. So sad to witness.



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    He left an apology note? Ok he's crazy.
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    that's what makes him crazy? I thought it was the chips.

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    Damn lots of people jump from this bridge. It happens so often they could probably make it an event and sell tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S281Saleen160 View Post
    Damn lots of people jump from this bridge. It happens so often they could probably make it an event and sell tickets.
    Something might be wrong with you.

    Rip Jimmie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S281Saleen160 View Post
    Damn lots of people jump from this bridge. It happens so often they could probably make it an event and sell tickets.
    Wow you are sooooo provocative.

    RBW, the website you posted is interesting. Says this is the 4th most jumped off bridge to off your self and 1st east of California, which I guess means that California has the top 3. What a scary way to go and what a traumatic event to witness.

    I remember reading an article about a young lady that posted uplifting messages on bridges to try to deter people from jumping, things like "you are loved". It's all just so sad.
    Sarcastic. Skeptic Tank. Self-deprecating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terps1990 View Post
    Something might be wrong with you.

    Rip Jimmie.
    I would def buy a ticket to something like that. No doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    Wow you are sooooo provocative.

    RBW, the website you posted is interesting. Says this is the 4th most jumped off bridge to off your self and 1st east of California, which I guess means that California has the top 3. What a scary way to go and what a traumatic event to witness.

    I remember reading an article about a young lady that posted uplifting messages on bridges to try to deter people from jumping, things like "you are loved". It's all just so sad.
    You need to learn the rules around here, do not quote Saleen. Follow the rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S281Saleen160 View Post
    You need to learn the rules around here, do not quote Saleen. Follow the rules!
    But why tho?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    Wow you are sooooo provocative.

    RBW, the website you posted is interesting. Says this is the 4th most jumped off bridge to off your self and 1st east of California, which I guess means that California has the top 3. What a scary way to go and what a traumatic event to witness.

    I remember reading an article about a young lady that posted uplifting messages on bridges to try to deter people from jumping, things like "you are loved". It's all just so sad.
    It's definitely an interesting website, and they have a FB too.

    Between Liv and I, most of the jumpers get posted on here (if they are identified). I am relatively local, and almost none of the stories show up in the news. They keep it very hush hush. If there is an initial story that traffic is backed up due to a possible jumper, they pull the story as soon as they can.

    Also, yes, you nailed Saleen. he thinks he is soooo provocative with his juvenile comments. If you notice his posts follow the same format all the time. Ignore and not quoting him is your friend when it comes to him.

    ETA: one of our members runs the bridge site. I see that he was on here today.
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    He left an apology note? Ok he's crazy.
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    that's what makes him crazy? I thought it was the chips.

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    apparently, this guy was arrested at least 6 times:
    https://florida.arrests.org/search.p...e&lname=Bruner
    there is also a news story about him stealing a truck:
    https://www.tbnweekly.com/north_coun...c5c449067.html
    it was requested i pull the articles, which i did, but i will post them soon after the funeral. i mean, i'm not a monster too much.
    http://www.skywaybridge.com/splash/hate04.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by skywaybridgedotcom View Post
    apparently, this guy was arrested at least 6 times:
    https://florida.arrests.org/search.p...e&lname=Bruner
    there is also a news story about him stealing a truck:
    https://www.tbnweekly.com/north_coun...c5c449067.html
    it was requested i pull the articles, which i did, but i will post them soon after the funeral. i mean, i'm not a monster too much.
    http://www.skywaybridge.com/splash/hate04.htm
    Similar to the kinds of things that the mods/admin/owner here get sent to them. It's all out in the open, we just post links to it and talk about it, and then people lose their minds.

    I get that people are hurt when they lose a loved one to suicide, but they could do so much good by just talking about it as opposed to hiding it. It might help save someone else.


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    that's what makes him crazy? I thought it was the chips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Similar to the kinds of things that the mods/admin/owner here get sent to them. It's all out in the open, we just post links to it and talk about it, and then people lose their minds.
    I get that people are hurt when they lose a loved one to suicide, but they could do so much good by just talking about it as opposed to hiding it. It might help save someone else.
    i'm sure the mods/admins/owner here gets hammered daily. people use outrage as sport any more. perhaps that's why i submit deaths here and post links to this site on mine. after all, sharing is caring and we all care. be well, mydeathspacers, till next time.

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    question: why is there no link to this forum on the article, much like the link to the article on top of this page? would seem logical to link to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post

    RBW, the website you posted is interesting. Says this is the 4th most jumped off bridge to off your self and 1st east of California, which I guess means that California has the top 3. What a scary way to go and what a traumatic event to witness.
    I've driven over this bridge. It is very tall. If I were to jump off a bridge, it would be this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywaybridgedotcom View Post
    question: why is there no link to this forum on the article, much like the link to the article on top of this page? would seem logical to link to each other.

    You mean why isn't this forum thread linked in the mydeathspace article page?


    The articles can only be created by a mod whereas forum threads can be created by any member (though I think there's a min post count first).

    & forum threads aren't immediately created with the articles - they come later if a member has an interest in discussing it. There are a lot of years-old articles that have no forum thread at all. I'm not even sure if mods can edit the forum threads into the article later? I guess it could just get posted in the FB comments beneath the articles though? Feel free to do that anytime you like :)

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    Also, I held off posting in here because sometimes threads hit a bit too close to home.

    But anyway, for some reason this one hit me harder than most suicide threads. I don't even know why. Maybe his determination

    & I know it's pretty trite under the circs but I hope someone's looking after his cat. She seemed pretty attached to him - or at least as attached as a cat can get to a human

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    Quote Originally Posted by skywaybridgedotcom View Post
    question: why is there no link to this forum on the article, much like the link to the article on top of this page? would seem logical to link to each other.
    I agree. There used to be a Forum link on the articles but it broke and it hasn’t been fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    I agree. There used to be a Forum link on the articles but it broke and it hasn’t been fixed

    Ohh was there an auto link before? I'm so unobservant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    But why tho?
    Because Saleen is an asshole and a huge douche bag. You're better of ignoring him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    It's definitely an interesting website, and they have a FB too.

    Between Liv and I, most of the jumpers get posted on here (if they are identified). I am relatively local, and almost none of the stories show up in the news. They keep it very hush hush. If there is an initial story that traffic is backed up due to a possible jumper, they pull the story as soon as they can.

    Also, yes, you nailed Saleen. he thinks he is soooo provocative with his juvenile comments. If you notice his posts follow the same format all the time. Ignore and not quoting him is your friend when it comes to him.

    ETA: one of our members runs the bridge site. I see that he was on here today.
    Yeah, I've lurked around enough to know who the dimwits are. : )

    Why do you think suicides are kept so hush hush? Is it due to copycats? I am a firm believer in removing the stigma of suicide and putting it in the open so we can discuss. I mean they post every stupid detail about gun-toting mass murders, for fucks sake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    Why do you think suicides are kept so hush hush? Is it due to copycats? I am a firm believer in removing the stigma of suicide and putting it in the open so we can discuss. I mean they post every stupid detail about gun-toting mass murders, for fucks sake!
    I think it's different reasons, but mostly shame and denial. It shouldn't be that way though.


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    I definitely think families want it hush hush because of the shame but what reason do media have to not report on suicides? Maybe it's a universal understanding about the pain and suffering that suicide leaves in it's wake. I just can't imagine media are so compassionate though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    I definitely think families want it hush hush because of the shame but what reason do media have to not report on suicides? Maybe it's a universal understanding about the pain and suffering that suicide leaves in it's wake. I just can't imagine media are so compassionate though.
    Mental health issues = suicides

    The world seems to have "bigger concerns" than addressing the mental health crisis.

    I don't think the media is compassionate. Suicides probably don't pay the bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouscat View Post
    Mental health issues = suicides

    The world seems to have "bigger concerns" than addressing the mental health crisis.

    I don't think the media is compassionate. Suicides probably don't pay the bills.
    I think this is correct, plus there's the added drama of families getting pissy and threatening to sue if you say the death is a suicide. They probably couldn't get anywhere since the ME will rule that, but since it probably doesn't pay the bills anyway why even deal with the headache of pissy families. Just my further $.02 on the matter.


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    It's more because of potential copycats than the wishes of families. Suicide clusters are a real thing, they realised it centuries ago. It's like a virus, you have one, then more people follow. Unless it was someone really high profile it used to mostly be limited to people with direct connections to the first death, or at least limited to their local area, but the internet & social med have changed that.

    - which is the reason some experts warned that there might be more incidents after the Seattle plane suicide.

    But yeah, it's an actual thing & even has a name



    https://www.openaccessgovernment.org...effect/42915/w

    The Werther effect ? About the handling of suicide in the media
    May 17, 2018

    Vivien Kogler and Alexander Noyon from Mannheim University of Applied Sciences investigate suicidality, the Werther effect and the role of medial presentation in this context. As guest authors at Pfalzklinikum they summarized the subject of the thesis written by Vivien Kogler.
    The Werther effect is the mimicry of suicide after a highly publicized suicide.

    More than 10,000 people in Germany take their own life every year ? in the age group of those up to 34 years, suicidality is the most common cause of death following accidents. At a time when every aspect of social life is considerably influenced by media, the question arises as to the effects of media coverage on suicide quotas.

    As a positive effect, the media offer cheap and fast help for those concerned1. Here especially internet forums and chats can function as a room of exchange2. However, again and again these fall into disregard due to so-called suicide pacts3 in which people make agreements to commit suicide. Moreover, the internet carries further risks. Within a very short time information on suicide methods, their advantages and disadvantages as well as sources of supply for weapons or drugs can be spread via dubious websites4.

    What is the Werther effect

    A special risk associated to media is the ?Werther effect?. Dating back to the high number of suicides after the publication of Goethe?s ?The Sorrows of Young Werther? in 1774, it describes the apparition of copycat suicides after media reports on suicides. Scientifically it was first described in 1974 by David Philipps whose study, until today, has been considered to be a pioneer work and constitutes a starting point for a large number of further studies. In this context the way of media reporting has proved to be highly relevant. For this reason, the WHO published guidelines in 2001 determining exactly what to avoid when reporting about a suicide in the media. This includes precise details on the suicide method, personal information on the person having committed suicide or some expressions such as ?self-inflicted death?5.

    Instead, if a report focuses on resource-oriented aspects, this may possibly even lead to a reduction of the suicide rate6. This is then called the ?Papageno effect?, which was first empirically confirmed in 2010 by an Austrian work group headed by Thomas Niederkrotenthaler. The results of this study unmistakably indicate that the prevention of suicidal behaviour by the media is possible, for example by presenting a successful coping with crises7. Other factors having suicide-preventing effects include the mentioning of professional help services or the publication of warning signals and backgrounds listed in the WHO guidelines 5.

    Prevention, however, can also take place at another level. Expert interviews carried out by the authors revealed that the still existing treatment of suicidality as a taboo represents a huge problem. As a result, the bereaved not only experience the loss of a loved one but also do not receive help or understanding from the environment. Consequently, further (copycat) suicides may occur ? without any medial impact. Therefore, it must be a matter of importance to counteract this tabooing since suicidality is part of our society and should neither be ignored nor stigmatized. Only if it is discussed openly, possibilities for prevention can be detected and developed further.

    Public healthcare
    Effective acting in this area can be illustrated for instance when looking at the task of school social workers. As children and adolescents often use dubious websites unthoughtfully, it is important to give them an understanding of how to handle media competently, particularly those based on internet. In doing so, specific topics such as the handling of suicidality in the media can be addressed. This field is extremely valuable for the prevention of suicide because, thus, tabooing can be counteracted as early as possible. If a pupil committed suicide, it is essential to talk about it in class and to inform the classmates to avoid a glorification of the victim as well as follow-up suicides8.

    The expert interviews also revealed the necessity to change the public healthcare communication. Media reports should increasingly focus on the aspect of recovery and the positive facets, for example by means of interviews with persons having overcome a crisis, instead of concentrating on sickness and its negative consequences. A comparison drawn by Niederkrotenthaler et al. (2017) makes this clear: When media report on psychosocial problems or diseases, for instance on cancer, the report does not exclusively refer to mortality rates. Special emphasis is placed on treatment possibilities or successfully coped diseases. Relating to suicidality, the focus should therefore be on the way out of the crisis or on reports on intervention successes9. This would increase the already mentioned Papageno effect and reduce the Werther effect.

    Basically, it can be said that the effects of the media ? also on suicidality ? have meanwhile been investigated well. Primarily, however, this holds true for the traditional media such as press and television. Here, guidelines for the reporting on suicides have already been established. The extension of these WHO guidelines in the past year reveals, however, that these media continue to be the subject of research to minimize the Werther effect.

    Regarding the internet relatively little is known about the way suicidal contents work. Like every medium the internet, too, holds both chances and risks. Some of these opportunities, for instance the possibility that preventive help offers can reach a huge number of users within a very short term of time, are already known. Particularly the preventive potential of social media is still not used sufficiently at present. The experts interviewed find it difficult to ensure a constant supervision in the internet which is necessary to be able to guarantee a preventive benefit. Further research is needed to adjust the recommendations addressed to online media on the issue of media coverage. This must remain a continuous process.

    Furthermore, a change in the public healthcare communication should be encouraged. To advance prevention it is important to counteract tabooing and to precisely consider the needs of the bereaved. It is also required to observe the environment of a suicide and provide appropriate offers to reduce the danger of follow-up suicides.

    This might be better


    https://www.advocate.com/commentary/...icide-clusters





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