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    David Gaut (54) was murdered in the same town where he allegedly killed a child 30 years earlier

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...bours-13045599






    Man found dead in village where neighbours 'suspected he was killer who tortured baby to death'

    David Gaut, 54, has been found dead in a rented flat in New Tredegar, near Caerphilly, South Wales after moving in six weeks ago


    ByAmy Coles
    21:12, 7 AUG 2018




    Three people have been arrested after a middle-aged man was found dead in his home in a small village.

    David Gaut, 54, was discovered at the rented flat he moved into in New Tredegar, near Caerphilly, South Wales, just six weeks ago.


    Police have not revealed his cause of death but have arrested three men on suspicion of murder.

    Today neighbours said that there had been a number of rumours circulating about the identity of the victim with some claiming he was a convicted child killer.

    Police have not confirmed that Mr Gaut is the same David Gaut who was jailed for life in July 1985 for murder of a 17-month-old boy.

    The killer, 21 at the time, battered, kicked and burned Chi Ming Shek - known as Marky - who was his girlfriend's son.


    Baby Chi Ming Shek was battered, kicked and burnt in 1985 (Image: Media Wales)



    Jane Pickthall, whose live-in lover is accused of murdering her 17 month old baby, leaves Cardiff Crown Court. David Tracey Gaut, aged 21, has denied murdering Chi Ming Shek. July 1985 (Image: Western Mail Archive)


    The baby's mum Jane Pickthall, then 23, had been out drinking and left Gaut to look after her two young children.

    She arrived home in Caerphilly, South Wales, and made love to Gaut - but the next day she found her son's dead body under a chest of drawers.

    A murder trial at Cardiff Crown Court heard Gaut tried to make the death look accidental.

    But pathologist Dr Owen Williams said the baby's injuries could have been caused by punching, kicking, falling, being thrown or a combination of these.

    Prosecutor Aubrey Myerson QC said while the mum was out neighbours heard loud noises - including banging and crashes.

    Miss Pickthall told a jury how she found Marky dead underneath a chest of drawers in his bedroom.

    She could see he was badly bruised in the groin area, chest and forehead.

    Mr Myerson said: "The killing did not arise from just one attack but from a series of assaults."


    Police discovered the body of a 54-year-old man at 3pm on Saturday (Image: Richard Williams)


    Two men, aged 23 and 51, from the New Tredegar area and another man aged 47, from the Aberbargoed area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder and are currently in police custody (Image: Richard Williams)


    Unemployed Gaut told police Marky had got out of the cot and claimed he smacked the tot's bottom but he fell down the stairs.

    He said he gave Marky mouth to mouth and put him back in the cot - because he "looked all right."

    The baby died of multiple injuries including a broken arm, injured liver and spleen and a fractured skull.

    Gaut was convicted of murder and jailed for life in July 1985 - but would have been due to apply for parole since then.

    Officers have declined to comment on whether this is the same David Gaut who was found dead. They say his next of kin has been informed and enquiries are continuing.

    A source said: "This is an active murder investigation and we would never comment on claims about a victim?s past."

    Neighbours at Long Row, New Tredegar, said that Gaut told them that he had spent time in prison ?for a crime he didn?t do?.

    One woman said: ?He has been living here for about six weeks but he?s not from here. He?s not local.


    The baby died of multiple injuries including a broken arm, injured liver and

    She also claimed: ?He told us he?d been to prison for 33 years.?

    A man at the same house said: ?He first of all told us he was inside for a crime but he didn?t do it."

    Other neighbours spoke of their shock and say they do not feel safe after a series of people were moved into social housing.

    One neighbour, who did not want to be named, said: "It used to be just old age pensioners and disabled people but about two months ago they started to move in other people.

    "I don't feel safe to stay here. I'd like to move unless they do something about it.

    "We have a school at the end of the road 100 yards away."

    Mr Gaut's body was discovered around 3pm on Saturday.

    Two men, aged 23 and 51, of New Tredegar and a man, 47, of Aberbargoed, have been arrested on suspicion of murder.


    They are currently in police custody for questioning.

    A spokesman said: "The cause of death has yet to be established and will be determined following a post-mortem examination. Anyone with information should call Gwent Police."


    A Ministry of Justice source confirmed the murdered man was the same individual who had recently been released after serving a life sentence for killing the toddler.

    A Prison and Probation Service spokesperson said: "Thorough risk assessments are carried out before deciding on accommodation for offenders released on licence.

    "There is an ongoing police investigation, so it would be in appropriate to comment further."

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    David Gaut, 54, Vigilante justice' fears as man found murdered in village where locals suspected he was 'convicted baby killer'

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...als-suspected/


    Well who knows though.

    . convicted baby killer" may have been the victim of vigilante justice after he was found murdered in a close knit village where locals claimed to have worked out his past.

    David Gaut, 54, was discovered dead by police in his rented flat where he moved in alone just six weeks ago.

    Three men have been arrested on suspicion of the murder of Mr Gaut - but police refused to say he was the same man as the convicted killer freed from jail.

    A man named David Gaut, then 21, was jailed for life in July 1985 for the murder and torture of a 17-month old boy just 11 miles from the village of New Tredegar, near Caerphilly, South Wales, where he recently moved to.

    But locals told how feelings were running "very high" as people were convinced it was the same person as the child killer.

    Over 30 years ago, Gaut was babysitting his girlfriend's son Chi Ming Shek - known as Marky - when he battered, kicked, and burned the sole of this child's foot.

    He first of all told us he was inside for a crime but he didn't do it
    The baby's mum Jane Pickthall, then 23, had been out drinking and left Gaut to look after her two young children.

    She arrived home in Caerphilly, South Wales, and made love to Gaut - but the next day she found her son's dead body under a chest of drawers. A murder trial at Cardiff Crown Court heard Gaut tried to make the death look accidental, but a pathologist said the baby's injuries could have been caused by punching, kicking, falling, being thrown or a combination of these.
    The baby died of multiple injuries including a broken arm, injured liver and spleen and a fractured skull.

    Gaut was convicted of murder and jailed for life in July 1985 - but would have been due to apply for parole since then.

    Police confirmed the name of the man found dead in New Tredegar, near Caerphilly, South Wales, as David Gaut. His next of kin has been informed and enquiries are continuing.

    A source said: "This is an active murder investigation and we would never comment on claims about a victim's past."

    Neighbours at Long Row, New Tredegar, said that Gaut told them that he had spent time in prison "for a crime he didn't do".

    One woman said: "He has been living here for about six weeks but he's not from here. He's not local.

    "He told us he'd been to prison for 33 years."

    A man at the same house said: "He first of all told us he was inside for a crime but he didn't do it."

    Mr Gaut's body was discovered around 3pm on Saturday. Two men, aged 23 and 51, of New Tredegar and a man, 47, of Aberbargoed, have been arrested on suspicion of murder.

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-village.html


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8482441.html


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/697130...e-men-charged/


    Update 3 men are charged for the murder of David Gaut

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...three-13052874


    Yes and the vigilantes Google search on Gaut lead up to them killing him. Yes I expect the vigilantes to say this is hero blaming in their defense and they were justified in removing the threat before other kids get killed.
    Also they will claim that they should be released because their actions was the right thing to do.

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    We need to merge these whenever a mod has the chance to


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    At least they didn't kill an innocent guy this time. This case won't do anything to stop these kind of attacks because of the victim's history. If anything the killer's are going to be treated like heroes, which sux because it'll inspire more attacks & a lot of them will be targeted against people who haven't done shit. It's going to take a seriously tragic case of mistaken identity before people wake the fuck up.






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    So it was a pre-planned attack by 3 of his neighbours - which I guess is why no-one reported a disturbance. Neighbours who have been interviewed since seem cool with it all.

    This wasn't a cold, calculating execution though. At least one person there stabbed him 50 times & beat him beyond all recognition. You can't do shit like that unless you're enjoying yourself on some level so I don't think the lowlife child killer is the only person in that street that the neighbours should've been worried about.


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/697130...e-men-charged/


    BUTCHERED Three charged with murder as it?s revealed child killer David Gaut was stabbed FIFTY times and beaten so badly with a baseball bat he couldn?t be identified at first?

    David Gaut, 54, had recently been released from prison after being jailed for life in July 1985 for the murder and torture of a 17-month-old boy in South Wales


    By Dan Sales and Sam Christie


    8th August 2018, 5:59 pmUpdated: 9th August 2018, 12:06 am


    THREE have been charged with the murder of child killer David Gaut - as it was revealed he was beaten so badly he couldn't be identified at first.

    David Gaut, 54, had recently been released after he was caged for life in July 1985 for the murder and torture of a 17-month-old boy just 11 miles away.


    Gwent Police confirmed last night that three men have been charged with murder.

    A 47-year-old man, 23-year-old man and 51-year-old man, all from the New Tredegar area are due to appear in Newport Magistrates? Court today.

    A neighbour, who did not want to be named, said: "We got to know him quite well since he'd moved in.

    "He used to go on about how he had been in prison for 33 years.



    "He told us he had shot a soldier but he told us he had been set up.

    "We were in his flat and saw his middle name was Tracy on the letters he had.

    "We thought that was unusual so I googled him to see if I could find out what he had done.

    "That's when we saw the details of what he did to the baby boy. We couldn't believe it.



    "It's disgusting. I can't believe we have been living next door to that."

    Three men - including two near neighbours - have been arrested on suspicion of his murder.

    Gaut was rehoused in the small ground floor flat by Caerphilly council.

    Another neighbour said: "The flat where it happened is owned by the council, they're always moving people in and out of them.

    "Who wants to live next door to a child killer or a paedo?"

    The flat and three neighbouring properties were sealed off as cops combed the area for clues.

    Gaut, then 21, was jailed for life in July 1985 for the murder and torture of a 17-month old boy just 11 miles away in Caerphilly.

    The beast was babysitting his girlfriend's son Chi Ming Shek - known as Marky Pickthall - when he battered, kicked and burned the sole of the child's foot.

    Police have sealed off the property in South Wales after they discovered Gaut's body on SaturdayWALES NEWS SERVICE


    Gaut was rehoused in the small ground floor flat in Long Row by Caerphilly councilWALES NEWS SERVICE
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    Gaut was rehoused in the small ground floor flat in Long Row by Caerphilly council

    The baby's mum Jane Pickthall, then 23, had been out drinking and left Gaut to look after her two young children.

    She arrived home in Caerphilly and had sex with Gaut.

    But the next day she found her son's dead body under a chest of drawers in his bedroom.

    A murder trial at Cardiff Crown Court heard Gaut tried to make the death look accidental.

    The baby died of multiple injuries including a broken arm, injured liver and spleen and a fractured skull.

    A judge described the murder as "the worst crime in the land".

    Sentencing, Mr Justice Caldfield said: "The person murdered was a defenceless little baby and on the fury's finding you not only murdered that child but also tortured him."

    Police say Gaut's next of kin has been informed and enquiries are continuing.

    The child killer's body was discovered around 3pm on Saturday.

    Forensics enter Gaut's flat to investigate the murderWALES NEWS SERVICE


    A spokesman for Caerphilly council said: "We can confirm it is a council property and we are helping police with their inquiries.

    "As it is an on-going inquiry it would not be appropriate to comment further."

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    So it was a pre-planned attack by 3 of his neighbours - which I guess is why no-one reported a disturbance. Neighbours who have been interviewed since seem cool with it all.

    This wasn't a cold, calculating execution though. At least one person there stabbed him 50 times & beat him beyond all recognition. You can't do shit like that unless you're enjoying yourself on some level so I don't think the lowlife child killer is the only person in that street that the neighbours should've been worried about.


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/697130...e-men-charged/
    But there was also reports that the Vigilantes ran a background check on Gaut before executing the attack. But I see this ending up as the Killers saying "This is hero Blaming" at Trial and somehow explaining how the Vigilante killing of Gaut will stop future abuse of Women and Children in the neighborhood. I see the killers being portrayed as Heroes by the public. Or this might turn out into another John Bunting Fiasco from two decades ago and we have not seen the rest of the evidence yet.

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    The real Dexter Morgan is at play here in the UK.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45168310

    3 men are in court for a hearing over the Gaut murder.

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    Three men have appeared in crown court charged with the murder of convicted child killer David Gaut.

    The 54-year-old was found dead at his home in Elliots Town in New Tredegar, Caerphilly county, on 4 August.

    Darren Evesham, 47, and Ieuan Harley, 23 were in the dock at Cardiff Crown Court while David Osbourne, 51, attended via videolink.

    The court heard investigations continue and a further hearing was set for 8 November ahead of a January trial.
    From the report on BBC News.

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    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...court-15023285

    Here is an update on the three men in court accused of an apparent vigilante killing against a child killer.

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    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...court-15023285

    Now the three men accused of killing a convicted murderer has a hearing.

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    I saw something yesterday about 6-8 people, including 3 pensioners, being involved in a murder that took place in a council flat.

    I assumed it was this case but now I'm not sure because I think it might've mentioned Manchester?



    Edit : should've searched instead of thinking in print

    It was a different case & it might need it's own thread because it sounds fucking crazy

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8489111.html


    I'll replace this with something on-topic if I end up making a thread for this. Soz mods
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    https://www.lakeshoreadvance.com/new...d-d9f59775238e

    Here is a Follow up

    The wheels of justice caught up to evil child killer David Gaut in the most gruesome manner.

    Gaut, 54, was allegedly lured by neighbours into a trap that prosecutors say saw a trio of vigilantes take the law into their own hands.

    The killer had just finished serving a 33-year sentence for the brutal battering death of his girlfriend’s toddler son, Chi-Ming Shek, in 1985.

    Cops say one of his neighbours in Wales discovered his sickening secret and decided to take matters into his own hands.

    A court heard that alleged ringleader David Osborne, 51, shared the secret — and his fears — with Darren Evesham, 47, and Ieuan Harley, 23.

    Last August, the trio allegedly lured Gaut to his date with death in Osborne’s apartment and hacked at him 176 times with knives and a screwdriver, a jury has heard.

    Prosecutors say they also ripped out the child killer’s fingernails to “punish” him, the U.K. Sun reports.

    “Osborne wanted to confront Mr. Gaut about his previous offence,” prosecutor Ben Douglas-Jones told the court. “He said he wanted to ‘chop him up and put him down the plughole.’”

    The three men have pleaded not guilty.

    A pal of the trio who had been drinking at a pub with them called cops the next day to report conversations he allegedly overheard while they thought he was asleep at Osborne’s flat.

    “He (witness Michael Lewis) heard the words ‘the f***ing three of us had to carry him in into his own place,’” the prosecutor said.

    “Ieuan Harley said at one point: ‘We are gonna have to do something about that in there cos it’s starting to f***ing smell.’

    “He specifically remembered one of the three men saying in the presence of the others, ‘We’re gonna have to cut him up and take him to … get rid of him, like, you know what I mean.’”

    The trial continues.

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    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...SSLGmcORRWm6oQ

    An Update

    A man has denied trying to blame his friend for murdering his next-door neighbour after learning he was a convicted child killer, a court heard.

    David Osborne, 51, said he was “tamping” – Welsh slang for “angry” – when he found out David Gaut, 54, had murdered toddler Chi Ming Shek, but denied he had then lured him to his flat and stabbed him.

    Osborne and co-accused Ieuan Harley, 23, are on trial accused of killing Gaut after learning he had served more than 32 years in prison for murdering the 15-month-old in 1985.

    Gaut was stabbed more than 150 times while still alive, a further 26 times after he died, and his fingernails were also cut off post-mortem during the alleged attack in Osborne’s flat.

    It is alleged his body was dragged back to his home and attempts were made to clean up the murder scene, dispose of bloodied clothing and set fire to a car to destroy incriminating evidence.

    The jury at Newport Crown Court heard that hours before Gaut died on the night of 2 August, his neighbours in Long Row, New Tredegar, discovered he had not been to prison for murdering a soldier but had in fact killed a child.

    Asked about his reaction to discovering the truth, Osborne replied: “Tamping.”

    He added: “Thinking in my head that I had been bothering with someone who done something like that to a boy.”

    Osborne told the court he was in his kitchen when he heard an argument between Harley and Gaut in the living room.

    “Then I heard Harley call David a paedophile and I heard a sharp intake of breath and a knife going in and realised then that someone had been stabbed,” he said.

    Caroline Rees QC, representing Harley, asked: “Are you lying about what happened because you have said something different in court than what you told the police in interview?”

    Osborne replied: “No.”

    Rees said: “Ieuan Harley did not stab Mr Gaut.”

    Osborne replied: “Yes he did.”

    Rees suggested Harley had not killed Gaut and had instead gone to bed – leaving Osborne with Gaut, who at that point was still alive.

    “Are you saying it was Ieuan Harley to cover up for someone else and blaming Mr Harley for something someone else did?” Rees asked.

    “Are you lying about Ieuan Harley to avoid taking the blame for something you did?

    “Did you take Ieuan Harley’s clothes and give them to someone else? Did anybody else use those clothes to clean up the blood on the floor from Mr Gaut?”

    Osborne replied: “No.”

    Rees asked: “Was it that you had decided you wanted to confront Mr Gaut because of what you had heard he had done. Did you want Mr Gaut to be harmed because of his past?”

    Osborne replied: “No.”

    Osborne, from Long Row, Elliots Town, New Tredegar and Harley, of no fixed address, deny the murder of Gaut between 1-4 August last year.

    Harley and Darran Evesham, 47, from Powell’s Terrace, New Tredegar, also deny perverting the course of justice, which Osborne admits.

    Evesham had earlier been acquitted of Gaut’s murder on the direction of the judge.

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...icted-14015773

    Update a verdict is out and a vigilante has been convicted for killing David Gaut.

    A man has been found guilty of murdering a convicted child killer who was stabbed 176 times.

    Ieuan Harley, 23, killed David Gaut, 54, after he was lured into a friend's home on the pretence of borrowing a DVD.


    At least 150 of the victim's injuries were delivered while he was alive and another 26 after his death- but they were so gruesome that pictures had to be deliberately kept away from a jury, the trial previously heard.

    Prosecutor Ben Douglas-Jones QC had said Mr Gaut suffered grouped stab injuries across his body, as well as wounds to his skull, both eyes, his neck, and near his mouth.

    Mr Douglas-Jones said the tip of a knife had broken off into Gaut's sternum after it was plunged into him.

    The brutal killing happened after Harley discovered Gaut had been jailed for the murder of a toddler in 1985.

    Gaut had been locked up for murdering a 17-month-old boy - but was rehoused in Harley's home village after being released from a 33-year jail term.

    Harley and Darran Evesham, 47, were also found guilty of perverting the course of justice after attempting to conceal evidence from the attack.

    David Osborne, 51, was cleared of both murder and manslaughter but had earlier pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice.

    The jury at Newport Crown Court took over five hours to return their verdicts on this afternoon following a three-week trial.

    Mr Douglas-Jones previously said: "He was stabbed so many times you can not tell how many times he has been stabbed in one place."

    He added: "He was conscious and unable to move. He was held in one place."

    The prosecutor said the stab wounds caused a "torrential haemorrhage" which led to Gaut's death.

    He said some photos of Gaut's injuries had not been shown to the jury because they were "distressing"

    Newport Crown Court heard Gaut had moved into a flat next door to Harley's friend David Osborne in the village of New Tredegar, Gwent after being released from prison.

    Gaut pretended he had been in prison for murdering a soldier - but his neighbours discovered the truth about his dark secret after searching the internet.

    Gaut was lured to Osborne's house on the pretence of borrowing a DVD - only to be brutally murdered by enraged Harley.

    Osborne, Harley and a fellow friend dragged his dead body back next door and tried to clean up the crime scene.

    Prosecutor Ben Douglas-Jones QC said: "He was duly lured to the flat and he was stabbed to death.

    "After the murder all three men played an active part in moving the body back to his own home.

    "They dragged him down a covered walkway.

    "They cleaned Osborne’s flat and tried to get rid of bloodied clothing and they set fire to a car, the prosecution say, to destroy incriminating items."

    In 1985, Gaut was babysitting his girlfriend's son Chi Ming Shek - known as Marky Pickthall - when he battered, kicked and burned the sole of this child's foot.
    The baby's mum Jane Pickthall, then 23, had been out drinking and left Gaut to look after her two young children.

    She arrived home in Caerphilly, South Wales, and made love to Gaut - but the next day she found her son's dead body under a chest of drawers.

    A murder trial at Cardiff Crown Court heard Gaut tried to make the death look accidental.

    Miss Pickthall found Marky dead underneath a chest of drawers in his bedroom.

    The baby died of multiple injuries including a broken arm, injured liver and spleen and a fractured skull.

    Gaut was convicted of murder and jailed for life in July 1985 - but was released on parole in November.

    Osborne and Harley, of New Tredegar, Gwent, denied murder. Harley was convicted but Osborne was cleared of murder and manslaughter by a jury after two days.

    Evesham, also of New Tredegar, was cleared of murder midway through the trial.

    Mr Douglas-Jones said: "The murder in this case was brutal.

    "The deceased Mr Gaut himself committed a violent offence.


    "It is no part of our function to judge him for that. He was judged by a jury all those years ago. He was sentenced and he served that sentence.

    "You have to stand back from the emotion involved in the case.

    "I would ask you to stand back from the brutality of the murder. Analyse the case logically."

    The trio moved Gaut's body after he was killed and attempted to clean up his blood and dispose of his clothing.

    All three will be sentenced on Wednesday.



    Wow I expect this to be in protests given that these men are trying to play this as "THe Courts are trying to blame the hero" card though as sentencing comes into play.

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    Meh. Anyone who protests in defence of someone who's capable of stabbing a person 150 times, & then stabbing a corpse almost 30 times is pretty suspect themselves.

    Seriously, make a fist like you're holding a knife & then bang it on something 176 times to get an idea of how absurdly extreme this attack was.

    The people involved in this case are no different to their victim.

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    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...amous-15872612

    Now a Profile of the Welsh Town infamous of the vigilante attack and why that happened.

    Where once more than 2,000 men went to work, New Tredegar’s former Elliot Colliery is now the site of a museum and community hub.

    We find Donna and Emma Thomas there, in the White Rose Centre caf?, where they sit all day, just about every weekday.


    “Everyone just meets up in here, because there’s nowhere else to go,” says Donna.

    “We chat for hours,” adds her 20-year-old daughter Emma.

    They paint a picture of personal despair in a town which has found itself in the headlines after the murder of child killer David Gaut, stabbed more than 150 times after people found out his horrific past.

    New Tredegar is the place I was born into, when the pits drove the local economy. My memories are of a close community, with freedom to enjoy playing and walking on the mountainsides.

    The reports I’ve seen and heard more recently make me wonder what that environment is like now.

    What I’ve heard, and been told over the phone, hasn’t been promising.

    I’ve heard claims that Caerphilly Council is moving in tenants with major social problems, concentrating them in certain streets, and how drugs, crime and gangs of unruly kids make other people afraid to go out after dark.

    As they nurse their drinks in the caf?, Donna and Emma certainly don’t dispel the negative impressions I’ve already been given.

    “It’s gone bad,” Donna says, telling me how she wants to move.

    “I can remember years ago, it used to be a lovely place. There’s just nothing here at all. I won’t even open my front door after six o’clock.

    “You just see people walking up and down the street, we’ve had armed police here around the shops.

    “My one boy, he’s got learning difficulties, and he says ‘Mam, there’s people in the garden’, and you see gangs of them.

    “Obviously, they’re doing drugs and nothing can be done about it, because they move them on and then they come back in the nights.”

    The police and local people I speak to agree David Gaut’s killing by 23-year-old Ieuan Harley was a rare and isolated crime. Two other men, Mr Gaut’s neighbour David Osborne and Darran Evesham, will be sentenced for perverting the course of justice after being cleared of the killing.

    The murder scene, in Long Row, is just across the road from the White Rose Centre and the street is quiet, clean and tidy when I drive into it in the middle of the day.

    Gaut would have been the kind of incomer with past crimes I hear locals complaining about, although at the extreme end of the spectrum.

    The 54-year-old had been jailed for life in 1985 for murdering a toddler he was babysitting in Caerphilly.

    Released on parole after 32 years in prison, he was rehoused in Long Row, with neighbours at first not knowing about his background. He was murdered shortly after neighbours discovered it.

    “I don’t think he should have been released and, if he had to be, the council should have warned local residents,” one local woman said after his murder.

    The three men now awaiting sentence are also the kind of people giving the town a bleak reputation, with the criminal trial hearing how the trio all had previous convictions for violence.

    In common with other former mining communities, the New Tredegar council ward, including Phillipstown and Tirphil, is still blighted by poverty and unemployment.

    “Some of the research I’ve done on the area when I’ve been applying for lottery grants, for instance, has highlighted the fact that New Tredegar, and certainly Phillipstown, are in one of the most deprived wards in Wales — things like life expectancy, can people drive, unemployment,” says Gavin Price, who manages the White Rose Centre, a self-funded enterprise for all ages, with a caf? and library.

    New Tredegar isn’t, in fact, ranked highest for deprivation within Caerphilly borough, but the figures aren’t good. Parts of Tirphil and Phillipstown are in the top 4% of the most-deprived communities in Wales.

    With its beautiful scenery it’s no surprise, though, that the whole of the New Tredegar area does much better in the rankings for quality of the environment. The figures also indicate there’s better access to services than many parts of Wales.

    Gavin Price explains how the White Rose Centre supports people.

    “It’s pretty much driven by what the local community want,” he says. “The council run two sessions every week in the centre for young parents.

    “They talk about how they handle finance, how they live to a budget, healthy cooking, healthy eating and, probably more importantly, it helps young parents come out into the community and meet friends who are in a similar situation and it improves people who are, I suppose, isolated.”

    Among the customers in the caf? that afternoon are Les and Doris Lewis, who’ve been married 63 years. Les is a former miner who worked in Elliot Colliery and the couple have had plenty of time to consider the highs and lows of life in New Tredegar.

    I ask them how they’d describe the community.

    “What community? The only community we’ve got is here, nowhere else,” Les retorts, referring to the centre he’s sitting in.

    “If you go to the pub, you’ve got young people and they’re not the same as when we were young. We were controlled when we were young. There’s no control these days.

    “A lot of the people here in New Tredegar are afraid to go out in the dark. Years ago, a woman could walk anywhere and she was safe.”

    I consider this from my own experiences. I learned in adulthood that more than 50 years ago someone close to me had been sexually abused by a paedophile neighbour, with domestic violence and child cruelty part of the fabric of life too.

    I don’t share this with these long-time residents, but ask Doris how content she is with her lot.

    “I’m happy enough,” Doris says. “We’ve got a nice place down there, part warden-controlled.”

    But she bemoans modern life, blaming smartphones, and Les agrees these complaints aren’t specific to his hometown.

    “All through the Valleys it has gone the same,” he says. “We were brought up, your next-door neighbour was your friend and the whole street was a friend.

    “People had to look after each other years ago, I worked in Elliot and Bedwas [collieries] and I’d do it all over again, it was a wonderful life.”

    As we age, it’s always tempting to look back with a misty fondness. But former local motor mechanic, Christopher Norris, who now lives in Hereford, relates his story of moving to New Tredegar's Farm Terrace in the 1980s.

    “It was the worst thing we ever did, absolutely terrible,” he says. “We were burgled 64 times in about three or four months, we had the house set on fire with us in it, front and back of the house at the same time.”

    So, serious crime isn’t anything new to the area, I say.

    “Yes, but it’s got worse,” he replies and I ask how he can be so sure of that, when he lives many miles away now.

    “I’ve got lots of friends living in New Tredegar, really good friends, and hearing things off them all the time and it’s usually bad news off them, it’s very rare you hear good news.

    “A lot of good people in Phillipstown and New Tredegar are suffering – they’re afraid to go out of their homes, especially in the night, because there are boys congregating in places.”
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    The official deprivation index for Wales does show community safety is an issue, with parts of Tirphil and Phillipstown ranking among the worst 10% in Wales for crime and antisocial behaviour.

    We see this played out when stone-throwing youths injure a police officer during an emergency call in Phillipstown, with a fire engine damaged in the same incident as the emergency services came under attack. A crime and safety review prompted by David Gaut’s killing had already begun by then.

    Gwent Police and Caerphilly council turn down my request for a verbal interview, sending statements instead. Inspector Andy O’Keefe talks about how police, council and other other agencies work together to tackle issues New Tredegar faces.

    However, he maintains: “New Tredegar remains lower in the table of recorded crime compared to many other comparable Valleys towns... my experience is that the fear of crime tends to be higher than actual crime rates and this is true of New Tredegar, particularly in the wake of the high-profile incident in summer 2018.”

    Gwent Police figures for 2018 show 698 incidents of crime and antisocial behaviour recorded in New Tredegar, in a population of around 4,750.

    But HM Inspectorate of Constabulary has told Gwent Police its crime recording across the force “requires improvement”, finding more than 5,000 crimes a year hadn’t been included in this system throughout the entire area they police.

    Nevertheless, more than 36% of the crime recorded in New Tredegar in 2018 was for violence or sexual offences, although Inspector O’Keefe says in his statement, most incidents “were of criminal damage, public order offences and violence without injury”.

    “Although these could be termed as ‘low level offences’,” he says. “I recognise they still have a wider impact on public confidence, so together we must continue to target those responsible.”

    His statement goes on to talk about a ‘core’ of troublemakers, some thought to be as young as eight, responsible for recent issues.

    The kind of things the police have done, he says, include an antisocial behaviour injunction against two youths, a criminal behaviour order being sought against another youth and the appointment of a dedicated police ‘ward manager’ based in New Tredegar itself.

    Meanwhile, many of the local people I speak to during my visit say substance abuse is a major concern and in the Tredegar Arms at the centre of what locals call the ‘village’, Dean Heggie and Kerry Whybeard discuss this.

    Dean says drug problems are rife.

    “It’s everywhere,” he says, telling me about his 22-year-old son, Justin. “He’s in prison. He’s been in for over a year, he’s been on the drugs. He’ll be out and back on it. It’s just the norm, he’s never going to get a job. What is there for youngsters around here, what is there for older people around here?”

    Well, there’s sport for a start.

    The town has a bowls club, a sports centre and a rugby club, where Keri Vaughan is a coach.

    Keri tells me how the rugby clubhouse is busy these days, especially as other local pubs and clubs have closed down.

    “We see all ages from people in their 70s to 18-year-olds, the locals come to our club for the old-time dancing or the quiz nights, that sort of thing,” he says.
    As a father-of-two, who’s lived in the same street all his life, Keri says New Tredegar isn’t the place he knew growing up.

    “It’s a bit of a clich?, you used to know everyone, 20 doors up, but now there’s people from other places coming up,” he adds.

    When I ask him about what other people have told me about crime, he replies: “I wouldn’t say it’s more violent.

    “I don’t see people off their faces on drugs, but I know there are people close to me who sell the stuff and it’s just rife, the same as everywhere else, and as a small Valleys village, it’s caught up with the times I suppose in that way.

    “I’ve got to be honest, we were a bit fearful when my oldest was a bit younger, but she’s 20 now and she’s gone to university and we tried to ground them well.”

    At 70, Keri's own former coach Ray Davies remembers New Tredegar in the age of coal and the closeness of those around him.

    “There were roughly 25 boys and girls within two years of each other, we played out in the streets until nine o’clock at night, you didn’t hear of all these crimes going on when I was growing up,” he says.

    “I used to know most of the people that lived in New Tredegar, I hardly know anybody now.

    “When the pits closed, a lot of people moved away to find work and I think as with most Welsh villages, when the pit shut, the village died."

    He says the rugby club is doing okay and I remark that he must see active, enthusiastic young people there. He sighs.

    “Not enough, really,” he says. “Another fear is, when us older ones die off, who’s going to take up the baton of running the club? I find youngsters don’t want the responsibility.”

    When it comes to crime, Ray says he hasn’t been personally affected, but has seen more going on.

    “Within the space of four weeks, you had the murder, the post office got broken into and also, four doors up from me, they had a drugs raid, with 12, 13 police cars which we’ve never seen before.

    “There are always police cars up and down, helicopters overhead, which obviously we never saw years ago.

    “You’ve seen that side of it deteriorating.

    “I think a lot of it is that people have no jobs, and that’s throughout Britain, not just in New Tredegar, and I think there’s a lot of strangers here. We’ve seen a big difference in the village and not for the better


    Looking at employment, or the lack of it, official figures show the proportion of unemployed men in New Tredegar was almost double that of Wales as a whole.

    And for both sexes, the geography can present challenges.

    Back in the caf?, hairdresser Emma says she’d been working in a local salon until it shut down last August.

    Two jobs she wanted to go for were out of the question because she doesn’t drive and, when we speak, she was now only working on weekends as a security officer 25 miles away in Cardiff, accessible by train.

    “You’ve got to look elsewhere, then if you do get elsewhere, you’ve got to travel and get money to travel,” Emma says.

    For those who have the means to travel, there’s plenty of employment around, says Keri Vaughan, who works in Merthyr Tydfil building military combat vehicles.

    “The majority of my friends or people I know have jobs in Cardiff or Newport, they travel,” he says. “Obviously there’s no jobs locally.

    “A lot of my friends are builders or bricklayers, they travel across the bridge or Hereford way, they go where the money is.”

    Each street we visit in New Tredegar seems no worse or better than other similar communities in south Wales, and that’s one of the points made in Councillor Eluned Stenner’s statement. She highlights the demise of the coal industry and how the council and other authorities have invested more than ?28.6m in recent years to try to regenerate the area, including a new school and children’s centre, road improvements, cycleways, the museum and community hubs.

    'We don’t give up hope that things can improve'
    An outsider’s view gives a refreshing perspective and comes in the shape of vicar Leah Philbrick, an American who’s been in the community for four and a half years. Before that, she worked in London.

    “I know people think a lot has changed in New Tredegar and it’s probably a lot different from how it used to be 20 or 30 years ago, but for someone coming in, you still very much see, actually, it’s retained a lot of that in comparison to other places like London,” she says.

    Church volunteers run the Living Room coffee shop, gardening activities and run a weekly food bank in New Tredegar.

    “As a church worker, I’m very privileged to be working alongside a lot of people where you see the best in people,” Leah says. “You see people who are wanting to contribute, wanting to support one another, wanting to look after each other, that sort of thing.

    “Lots of people recognise that the problems that we have in the community are maybe not uncommon, it’s not unique to where we are and possibly symptomatic of what’s going on in the wider UK.

    “It’s just sad when you see it happening in our community. I suppose we try to maintain that sense of hope, we don’t give up hope that things can improve as well.”

    Retired lab technician Audrey Cullen paints a similar, more positive picture of modern New Tredegar.

    Audrey, who’s 76, is one of the food bank volunteers and has lived in the town since the age of nine. Problems here aren’t any worse than elsewhere, she says, adding weight to what the police have also said.

    “It’s fairly quiet, we do get problems, but certainly not as bad as places like Cardiff and Newport,” she says.

    “It’s a lot safer, I think, in the Valleys. I know people will cross the road so they won’t have to walk past youngsters, but you walk past them and they’re quite normal... the threat is more imagined than real.”

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    An Update the killers in the David Gaut murder has been sentenced to 24 years

    A young man who stabbed a child killer 176 times and mutilated his dead body with a screwdriver has been jailed at least 24 years for murder.

    David Gaut was stabbed to death in August last year after neighbours in New Tredegar, South Wales, discovered he had murdered a 17-month-old boy in 1985.


    As Gaut lay dead, killer Ieuan Harley, 23, stayed with his victim's body for 20 to 30 minutes and "mutilated" it with a screwdriver, stabbing it 26 times.

    Gaut had told his new neighbours he had been in prison for murdering a soldier, but they discovered the truth when they searched the internet.

    Harley, who was convicted of murder after a trial in February, was sentenced to life in prison on Monday with a minimum term of 24 years, WalesOnline reports.

    Sentencing, Mr Justice Clive Lewis said: “I am sure that you, Ieuan Harley, killed David Gaut because you found out that he had killed a child and you decided he should be made to suffer.

    “Quite simply what you did was murder.

    “You carried out a brutal and savage killing of another person.”

    In February, a jury at Newport Crown Court convicted Harley of murder and cleared David Osborne, 51, of murder and manslaughter.

    Osborne admitted a charge of perverting the course of justice

    A third man, Darran Evesham, 47, was cleared of murder during the trial at the direction of the judge.

    Harley and Evesham were both found guilty of perverting the course of justice after the trial.

    Gaut had moved in next door to Osborne after being released from from a 32-year prison term for murdering his girlfriend's son, Chi Ming Shek, while babysitting in 1985.

    The boy had died of injuries including a fractured skull, injured liver and spleen and broken arm.

    Gaut, who tried to make the child's death look like an accident, was released on parole in November 2017, nine months before he was murdered.

    After the truth about his past was discovered by his neighbours, he was lured to Osborne's home, where he was murdered by knife-wielding Harley, the trial heard.

    Osborne and Harley then began cleaning up the victim's blood from the furniture and carpet in Osborne's home.

    Evesham arrived and began helping after Osborne told him that Harley had killed someone.

    All three dragged Gaut's body back to his own home.

    Harley stayed with the body for 20 to 30 minutes and "mutilated" it.

    The judge told Harley during Monday's sentencing hearing: “You stabbed the body 26 times with a screwdriver."

    The trio got rid of bloodied clothing - later found by police on a riverbank - and set fire to a car registered to Harley's father to destroy incriminating evidence inside, the court heard.

    The court heard at least one knife was used to kill Gaut, but the murder weapon has not been found because it was disposed of by Harley.

    The screwdriver was recovered by police.

    Harley's sentence for perverting the course of justice was four years and it will run concurrently.

    Osborne was jailed for two years and four months, and Evesham for three years and six months for perverting the course of justice.

    Gaut's mother, Phyllis Gaut, said her son was "tortured" and murdered "in the cruellest of ways".

    A victim impact statement read out in court said: “I am writing this statement because my son David was brutally murdered by vigilantes.

    “David has been taken away in the cruellest of ways.”

    She said of her son's killer: “This man is no better than David, he too is a killer.

    “David spent over 30 years in prison and paid the price for what he did.

    “I only hope he will have remorse for what he has done."

    She added: "David struggled to understand how much the world had moved on since he had been in prison.

    “As a family we do not condone what David did.

    “I believe his release from prison was a chance for him to do some good.

    “His death has left a huge void in my heart.

    “This man has taken away the opportunity to prove he had changed."

    Mrs Gaut also said her family has been "hounded" by the press since her son's murder.


    She added: “I have felt scared in my home and scared my family will be targeted.

    “I have had to mourn in private.


    “I understand how some people will not sympathise David is dead.

    “He could not have a proper funeral.

    “As a family we decided we did not want to come to court because of press intrusion.”

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