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    Mark van Dongen (29) chose euthanasia after his girlfriend, Berlinah Wallace (48), allegedly paralyzed him by throwing acid on him

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-41914798

    An acid attack victim has told jurors, in testimony recorded before his death, how the "jealous" ex accused of his murder laughed as she doused him in a corrosive liquid.

    In video evidence, Mark van Dongen, 29, said Berlinah Wallace, 48, shouted "if I can't have you, no-one else can" as she threw sulphuric acid at him.

    Bristol Crown Court heard he ended his life in a euthanasia clinic due to unbearable pain from his injuries.

    Ms Wallace denies murder.

    The court heard Dutch national Mr van Dongen was left paralysed from the neck down and lost his left leg, the sight in his left eye and most of the sight in his right eye, after the September 2015 attack in Bristol.

    He was later told he would require a "lifetime of constant and dedicated care".

    In January this year, he travelled to Belgium where he ended his life in a euthanasia clinic.
    In the video, Mr van Dongen struggles to speak as he describes Ms Wallace waking him up and laughing as she threw acid over him, saying "if I can't have you, no one else can".

    When the interviewer asks if he knew why she had attacked him, he says it was because she was jealous.

    In a second video shown to the court, Mr van Dongen tells police Ms Wallace threw boiling water over him after an argument in 2014.

    He also says Ms Wallace hit herself in the face, and told him she would tell police he had caused her injuries if he left her.

    At the time of the attack, prosecutor Adam Vaitilingam QC told jurors, Mr van Dongen had begun seeing another woman and moved into a hotel.

    The victim visited the defendant at her flat in Ladysmith Road, Bristol, because he was concerned that she was "in a bad way and self-harming", the court was told.

    He fell asleep, jurors heard, and Ms Wallace laughed as she threw a glass of sulphuric acid over him.
    The jury heard computer records showed Ms Wallace had bought the acid online on 2 September.

    She also carried out internet searches, including "can I die drinking sulphuric acid?", and browsed news stories on acid attack victims.

    Ms Wallace admits throwing a substance over Mr van Dongen but denies any intent to cause him harm.

    She claims she believed that she was throwing a glass of water over him.

    Richard Smith QC, defending, told the jury "to keep an open mind".

    "Yes, she threw the glass over him, but defence claims Mr van Dongen put the acid in the cup without her knowledge, and encouraged her to drink it resulting in a mirror image of what we now have."

    He said the couple had a "turbulent and complicated relationship" and Ms Wallace was going to blackmail Mr van Dongen with personal information, which was why he put the acid in the glass and encouraged her to drink it.

    Ms Wallace denies murder and applying a corrosive substance.

    The trial continues on Thursday.




    http://nypost.com/2017/11/08/woman-a...se-euthanasia/

    Van Dongen was kept in an isolated ward in ICU for six months before being moved to a burns ward, spending a total of 14 months at Southmead.

    The burns covered 25 percent of his body and skin had to be surgically removed.

    Van Dongen?s left leg was amputated below the knee and he lost the vision in his left eye and was partially sighted in his right eye.

    He eventually regained speech but was permanently paralyzed from the neck down.

    Van Dongen fell into a deep depression. Vaitlingam said: ?Sometimes he said he wanted to live, at other times that he wanted to die.?

    On Nov. 22, 2016, a care home in Gloucester ? a city just north of Bristol ? was found and it was understood van Dongen would require a ?lifetime of constant and dedicated care.?

    He told his father he wanted to return to Belgium and his father hired an ambulance to take him to the Maria Hospital in Overpelt, a small town near the Belgium-Netherlands border.

    Doctors there confirmed he was paralyzed for life.

    He applied for euthanasia, which was approved after three consultants examined him. Euthanasia is legal in Belgium.

    It was decided this was a case of ?unbearable physical and psychological suffering,? and van Dongen?s life was taken on Jan. 2, 2017.


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    It raises an interesting philosophical question, no?
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    Terrible. Poor guy.

    Here is a FB page his brother set up for him: https://www.facebook.com/Mark-van-Do...3023255904252/


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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    It raises an interesting philosophical question, no?
    It does. Although what she did was seriously horrible, he was the one that opted for Euthanasia. She shouldn't have to face a murder charge. Although Attempted Murder is acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    It raises an interesting philosophical question, no?
    Forgive me for being dense, but what is the philosophical question? Whether or not she should be tried for murder or whether or not people have the right to opt for euthanasia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    Forgive me for being dense, but what is the philosophical question? Whether or not she should be tried for murder or whether or not people have the right to opt for euthanasia?
    I think they are questioning whether it is murder since he was actually alive and chose euthanasia himself. I actually think this case is worse than just outright murder. This is like torture before murder. No question, she murdered him in my mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    It does. Although what she did was seriously horrible, he was the one that opted for Euthanasia. She shouldn't have to face a murder charge. Although Attempted Murder is acceptable.
    It's absolutely murder. A machine was keeping him alive. And he would have died from his injuries eventually.

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    This is a long article, so I will just post the link. There is a lot more info in this story, including the issues and complications after the attack. I honestly think he would have died from the injuries/complications, even if he hadn't chosen euthanasia.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ect-ex-tongue/
    Last edited by raisedbywolves; 11-09-2017 at 09:59 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    It does. Although what she did was seriously horrible, he was the one that opted for Euthanasia. She shouldn't have to face a murder charge. Although Attempted Murder is acceptable.
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    Forgive me for being dense, but what is the philosophical question? Whether or not she should be tried for murder or whether or not people have the right to opt for euthanasia?
    What Boston said... Your first option. She did attack him, probably attempted to murder him, but I'm not exactly comfortable charging someone with murder when the person who died made the decision to die.

    On the other hand, if he refused life sustaining treatment and wasn't able to live on his own without it, I think I'd be ok with the murder charge. I've even seen it where a person lived several years after an attack and then the murderer was charged when the person finally succumbed, and I'm ok with that too because the injuries sustained in the attack led to the person's eventual death.

    To me, we have no idea how long he would have lived or what his quality of life could have been because he chose to end it. I don't blame him for that, looking from an outside perspective, but people make all sorts of meaning in life despite their disabilities. It's possible he could have too (but not likely IMO).

    ETA: now I see the info that he would have died no matter what so yeah, she's a murderer. I was just assuming that he could continue living under care and didn't want to because of the disabilities and pain.

    For the record, I'm totally cool with people killing themselves for those reasons, but not with charging a person for murder if the victim did it for those reasons.
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    Maybe charging her with (negligent homicide?) a charge where something she did to him resulted in his death. He wouldn't have chosen to end his life if she hadn't done what she did to him, and he easily could have died from what she had done with the acid...

    That came out weird.


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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    What Boston said... Your first option. She did attack him, probably attempted to murder him, but I'm not exactly comfortable charging someone with murder when the person who died made the decision to die.

    On the other hand, if he refused life sustaining treatment and wasn't able to live on his own without it, I think I'd be ok with the murder charge. I've even seen it where a person lived several years after an attack and then the murderer was charged when the person finally succumbed, and I'm ok with that too because the injuries sustained in the attack led to the person's eventual death.

    To me, we have no idea how long he would have lived or what his quality of life could have been because he chose to end it. I don't blame him for that, looking from an outside perspective, but people make all sorts of meaning in life despite their disabilities. It's possible he could have too (but not likely IMO).

    ETA: now I see the info that he would have died no matter what so yeah, she's a murderer. I was just assuming that he could continue living under care and didn't want to because of the disabilities and pain.

    For the record, I'm totally cool with people killing themselves for those reasons, but not with charging a person for murder if the victim did it for those reasons.
    I, too, support assisted suicide. I know someone who did it. He was young (30s) and suffered from depression. I believe he went to Sweden and had to go through a long screening process. None of us were surprised. It actually fit his character.

    As far as this case, I do not know what she should be charged with. I do think a punishment is in order but since I do not know anything about the law, I'm not sure what is appropriate. It was noted in the article above that he was suffering from depression, which led to his decision (in addition to being in constant pain). Is it safe to say she caused his depression? Surely it was related to dousing him with acid (good gawd, ya'll) but would that open the door for people to seek murder charges in other cases if they can 'prove' another person was responsible for their depression and subsequent suicide?

    (Please know, I am not sympathetic to her and I think what happened to him was terrible. I'm still trying to figure out how to convey tone on the internet and I'm afraid I may come across as cold or bitchy instead of someone with genuine curiosity and a strong desire for answers. My psychiatrist and therapist say I have OCD, but I'm still on the fence.)
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    I want to know how he became paralyzed from the neck down from having acid thrown on him. Did he turn around and have acid thrown on his back? I feel icky asking that, but I'm genuinely curious.

    I agree with the people who said she should be charged with murder. What did she think was going to happen when she poured acid on him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdhoney View Post
    It's absolutely murder. A machine was keeping him alive. And he would have died from his injuries eventually.
    I personally feel it's still murder, but I'm going by what the laws dictate. I never said I liked that it isn't considered murder if he chose to die. And yes, he probably would have eventually died, but he did choose to end it so there's no way of knowing if/when he would have died. Does it suck? Yes, nobody should have to suffer for years just to convict someone of what they're responsible for. But it's what the law dictates.
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    This happened in Bristol, UK close to where I live.

    Acid attacks in the UK have become almost an epidemic in the last year. It is now punishable with a maximum of life in prison even if the attacker misses the victim.

    Technically she obviously didn't murder him in the eyes of the law but like others have said, I think her attack was just as bad if not worse than murder. I mean you shoot someone in the head and kill them and (generally) they won't suffer like this poor man did. He spent all those months trying to recover, in what must have been awful pain and paralysed in his broken body. That is torture. Then to feel his only option was to travel for euthanasia as the age of 29.

    I hope her sentence reflects the suffering she caused him. Sick bitch.

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    I definitely think this chick should burn but I understand why some are questioning a murder charge. If they were to charge her it would set a dangerous precedent. People could start committing suicide and blaming their decision on a perceived injustice by someone when in reality they are mentally ill or seeking revenge. Where would we draw the line? Too slippery a slope if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumidity85 View Post
    I definitely think this chick should burn but I understand why some are questioning a murder charge. If they were to charge her it would set a dangerous precedent. People could start committing suicide and blaming their decision on a perceived injustice by someone when in reality they are mentally ill or seeking revenge. Where would we draw the line? Too slippery a slope if you ask me.
    We've actually had two cases recently (that I know of, there are probably more) where people were charged with manslaughter or murder after they encouraged and egged someone on to commit suicide. To me, this case is much more clear cut murder than those cases.


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    Wow, what pain he must have been in. This is from the FB page that his brother set up. The last sentence is missing the end.

    Mark is unfortunately dying for the consequences of this attack on his life after an incredible heavy battle of 15 months and 10 days on 02-01-2017 at the Maria Hospital Overpelt in Belgium at the age of 29 years.
    Mark fought with all his strength to survive the injuries. Mark was burned for 87% over his body due to the sulfuric acid attack. Mark 1 eye, 1 ear, his upper lip and his left leg was missing, and was up to his shoulders were paralyzed because his muscle tissue was

    I have to agree with Boston, although he eventually would have passed due to his injuries, he chose to take his life (and I sure as hell don't blame him for that) so by US law (I understand, they are overseas) the charges would not be murder. She definitely needs to spend the rest of her life in prison so hopefully she will be found guilty of any charges she is charged with. Sounds like he made sure by the video that any court can see the pain he was in due to his injuries.

    This reminds me a little of the case here in US where the boyfriend lit his g/f on fire and she made sure to have the video that was shown in court. He was eventually charged with her murder as she died from her injuries.

    People are just sick these days, I mean who does this shit and thinks "oh this is okay"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    We've actually had two cases recently (that I know of, there are probably more) where people were charged with manslaughter or murder after they encouraged and egged someone on to commit suicide. To me, this case is much more clear cut murder than those cases.
    I thought of the suicide angle and of those cases too. The difference is that in the suicide cases, there is direct evidence showing that the perpetrators manipulated and convinced the person to commit suicide. Basically using them as their own weapon. Someone committing suicide and pointing the finger to get revenge wouldn't have that kind of evidence.

    Yes, I agree that in this case it's more obvious that her actions led to his death. We'll just have to see how they handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highhopes View Post
    This happened in Bristol, UK close to where I live.

    Acid attacks in the UK have become almost an epidemic in the last year. It is now punishable with a maximum of life in prison even if the attacker misses the victim.

    Technically she obviously didn't murder him in the eyes of the law but like others have said, I think her attack was just as bad if not worse than murder. I mean you shoot someone in the head and kill them and (generally) they won't suffer like this poor man did. He spent all those months trying to recover, in what must have been awful pain and paralysed in his broken body. That is torture. Then to feel his only option was to travel for euthanasia as the age of 29.

    I hope her sentence reflects the suffering she caused him. Sick bitch.
    That?s interesting about the rise in acid attacks. Any idea why that is?

    Also, what do people use sulphuric acid for that it is so easily obtainable? (my mama didn't raise no scientist, so I don't even know what it is.)

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    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ark-van-dongen

    Jury discharged in murder trial of woman accused of acid attack

    The jury in the trial of a woman accused of murdering her ex-partner after throwing acid over his face and body has been discharged.

    Berlinah Wallace, 48, is accused of murdering Mark Van Dongen, 29, who was paralysed from the neck down, “grotesquely scarred” and all but blinded by the attack in September 2015.

    The trial at Bristol crown court was adjourned last week by Mrs Justice May to allow a question of law “to be further considered”.

    The jury of six men and six women returned to court on Wednesday to learn the judge was halting the trial and discharging them for legal reasons.

    She told them: “When I adjourned this trial just over a week ago it was for the consideration of a legal matter. We cannot say for certain when it will be finalised. In these circumstances there is no option but to discharge you from further service at this trial.”

    May remanded Wallace in custody and fixed a provisional trial date of 17 April next year.

    The defendant, who denies the charge of murder, also faces a charge of throwing a corrosive substance with intent.


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    You have to run this through google translate, but the jist of it is that the trial is going to re-start on April 17th, 2018.

    http://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20180404_0...er-op-17-april


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    I am really interested to see how this trial turns out.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ark-van-dongen

    Pain of acid attack led to man's euthanasia, Bristol murder trial told

    “The injuries that he suffered were grotesque and horrific. His face and much of his body was grotesquely scarred,” the prosecutor said. “He lost the sight in his left eye and most of the sight in his right eye. He lost his lower left leg, which was amputated.

    “He was confined to a hospital bed, for a long time unable to move anything other than his tongue. His physical condition improved a little. He regained the power of speech, though never the ability to move.

    “But 15 months later, deciding that he could bear it no longer, he asked a euthanasia clinic in Belgium to assist him in taking his own life. He was examined by three consultants, who confirmed that this was, in their terms, a case of unbearable physical and psychological suffering despite maximum medical support.

    “They agreed that the test for euthanasia was met, and on 2 January 2017 they inserted a catheter into his heart, which brought about his immediate death.


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    So she is trying to claim he was going to give her the acid to drink, and she thought it was water she was throwing on him.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-43950262

    In the police interview, Ms Wallace told police she had bought the sulphuric acid online on Mr Van Dongen's advice to deal with a bad smell coming from pipes in her flat.

    She said they had been "partners for nearly five years" and had been "trying to work things out" following a break-up.

    The court heard she had confronted him after discovering he was seeing another woman.

    Ms Wallace said he grabbed her and assaulted her as she tried to leave her flat in Westbury Park when she "lost it" and "took the glass" and threw it at him.

    She said she thought it was "my water he gave me" and "didn't know what it was" until Mr Van Dongen said "you threw acid on me".

    "Everything went blank. I was panicky. I was thinking loads of things in my mind, like why would you put that in my cup," she told officers.

    "I'm shocked he wanted to really kill me. He hated me that much. I'm really shocked about the whole thing."
    The court also heard from Violet Farquharson, Mr Van Dongen's new girlfriend who he had moved in with, who had received 14 "silent phone calls" from Ms Wallace.

    It heard the Dutch engineer had texted her warning her that Ms Wallace had hacked his email and not to use it.

    Ms Farquharson, told the court she visited him almost everyday in hospital but it was months before there was any "verbal communication".

    "He said he was woken up and she said to him something along the lines of: "If I can't have you no-one else can" and then she laughed at him and threw the acid," she said.


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