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    marking. what a horrible situation

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    Matt Lauer reported that the shooter's father was once on the FBI's most wanted list. A bank robber who escaped and had "suicidal tendencies." That might be totally unrelated but, who knows with genetics. Maybe he inherited the psychopath gene. I think this is the case of a guy who just snapped.

    I mean, obviously he was mentally ill. I guess I'm just looking for a reason behind this when there probably isn't one to be found.
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    Mental illness, I am sure. Maybe he also recently lost a ton of money gambling.


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    This literally made my blood run cold :(
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    I know it goes without saying, but this is fucking tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non_Saepe View Post
    I know it goes without saying, but this is fucking tragic.
    Agree

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    Never mind, the link I originally posted did not contain a full list. Sorry.
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    Mental illness is not a reason or motive. Many, many people are mentally ill to various degrees. The vast majority don't do things like this.

    This guy was a fucking terrorist. This wasn't some impulsive decision. He staked out the spot, he loaded his room with guns, he picked a specific date where he would have access to the most people to pick off. There is no way we will find out this guy just woke up feeling 'extra crazy'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Mental illness is not a reason or motive. Many, many people are mentally ill to various degrees. The vast majority don't do things like this.

    This guy was a fucking terrorist. This wasn't some impulsive decision. He staked out the spot, he loaded his room with guns, he picked a specific date where he would have access to the most people to pick off. There is no way we will find out this guy just woke up feeling 'extra crazy'.
    I agree. It sounds shitty but I wish people like this that are pissed at the world would just off themselves instead of taking out innocent people.
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    It's so sad on what happened. A co-worker of mine originally from Las Vegas left early as she found out a few of her friends/family were part of those injured during the shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merdeath View Post
    This literally made my blood run cold :(
    All this is so heartbreaking. That post hurts my heart. You go out to have fun never imaging something like this can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Matt Lauer reported that the shooter's father was once on the FBI's most wanted list. A bank robber who escaped and had "suicidal tendencies." That might be totally unrelated but, who knows with genetics. Maybe he inherited the psychopath gene. I think this is the case of a guy who just snapped.

    I mean, obviously he was mentally ill. I guess I'm just looking for a reason behind this when there probably isn't one to be found.
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    Mental illness, I am sure. Maybe he also recently lost a ton of money gambling.
    Just out of curiosity, when was the last time some black or latino gang member shot someone (or multiple people) in the face only to be called mentally ill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Mental illness is not a reason or motive. Many, many people are mentally ill to various degrees. The vast majority don't do things like this.

    This guy was a fucking terrorist. This wasn't some impulsive decision. He staked out the spot, he loaded his room with guns, he picked a specific date where he would have access to the most people to pick off. There is no way we will find out this guy just woke up feeling 'extra crazy'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Just out of curiosity, when was the last time some black or latino gang member shot someone (or multiple people) in the face only to be called mentally ill?
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    I am sure there are some but I think mass shootings are rare where the shooter is black.

    And honestly, my first thought with these sort of shootings is the person must be seriously angry...something happened that made him pissed off at the world (when he should have been angry with himself). When I read he liked to gamble a lot, my first thought was he probably lost a ton of money and was upset. But still, people get mad at don't shoot into a crowd of people like this unless they have some issues going on.


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    Some of my family was in Vegas this weekend for my aunt's wedding but they all left Saturday to come home. My aunt and some friends that I have that live there were thankfully all at home and safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Just out of curiosity, when was the last time some black or latino gang member shot someone (or multiple people) in the face only to be called mentally ill?
    Asking for a friend.


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    You're right, and Bowie's right. Mental Illness isn't an excuse. I guess I'm just looking for reasons here.

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    I have a friend missing still from there. She was at the concert with her husband and a couple of other friends.. No one knows where she is. I am on the opposite coast. What can I do?! I feel so helpless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Just out of curiosity, when was the last time some black or latino gang member shot someone (or multiple people) in the face only to be called mentally ill?
    Asking for a friend.
    1993. Seriously. I've been paying attention to this shit for 50 years or so, and this is the only one that springs to mind.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/u...s-shooter.html
    The man identified as the gunman who checked into a suite at a Las Vegas hotel and massacred dozens of concertgoers with a vicious deluge of bullets late Sunday lived in a quiet retirement community in Mesquite, Nev., about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, where he and his companion drew little attention to themselves, relatives and neighbors said.

    The gunman, identified by the police as Stephen Craig Paddock, 64, was described as a retiree who loved to gamble and who lived with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, 62.

    Relatives said Mr. Paddock had not displayed strong political or ideological beliefs in their interactions with him.

    That modest portrait of Mr. Paddock was upended shortly after 10 p.m. Sunday when, according to the police, he opened fire on fans attending an outdoor country music concert near the Mandalay Bay Resort on the Las Vegas Strip, killing nearly 60 people and injuring at least 500 others.

    Mr. Paddock was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot in his room on the 32nd floor of the hotel, said Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of Clark County, which includes Las Vegas. At least 10 guns were found in the hotel room, including several rifles, the authorities said.

    Sheriff Lombardo described Mr. Paddock as ?lone wolf? who had smashed the window of the hotel with a hammer-like device before starting to fire on the crowd.

    A motive for the horrific attack remained unclear. ?I can?t get into the mind of a psychopath at this point,? Sheriff Lombardo said.

    ?It wasn?t evident that he had weapons in his room,? the sheriff said. ?It has been determined that he had employees going to and fro from his room, and nothing nefarious was noticed.?

    His brother, Eric Paddock, who lives in Orlando, said he and his family were ?shocked, horrified? by the news, saying he was ?not an avid gun guy.? The brother told CBS News that he knew Mr. Paddock had handguns, but that as far as he knew, Mr. Paddock did not own ?machine guns.?
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    ?Where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that,? the brother said. ?When you find out about him, like I said, he?s a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite and drove down and gambled in Las Vegas.?

    He said he last communicated with his brother when Stephen inquired about how the family had fared during Hurricane Irma, which struck Florida in September.

    ?He texted me to ask about my mom after the hurricane,? Eric Paddock told reporters. ?He sent her a walker.?

    Christopher Sullivan, general manager of Guns & Guitars, a gun store in Mesquite, confirmed that Mr. Paddock bought three guns at his shop within the last year ? a handgun and two rifles. All the purchases were legal and cleared routine federal screening, Mr. Sullivan said.

    ?The man does not have a criminal history,? he said of Mr. Paddock.

    Mr. Sullivan, who said he had been contacted by the F.B.I. and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, declined to provide detailed descriptions of the guns Mr. Paddock bought. ?We have cooperated with local and federal authorities,? he said.

    He described Mr. Paddock as seeming like ?a normal fellow, a normal guy ? nothing out of the ordinary,? who described himself as a ?snowbird? because he spent half the year in northern Nevada.

    ?As for what goes on in a person?s mind, I couldn?t tell you,? Mr. Sullivan said. ?I know nothing about him personally.?

    The Islamic State militant group claimed on Monday that Mr. Paddock was one of its soldiers, but did not provide any evidence to support its claim. The F.B.I. said there was no evidence so far that Mr. Paddock had ties to any international terrorist organization.

    But Eric Paddock told reporters in Florida that his brother ?had nothing to do with any political organization, religious organization, no white supremacist, nothing, as far as I know. And i?ve only known him for 57 years.?

    A spokesman for the Mesquite Police Department said there was nothing remarkable about Mr. Paddock?s home, in a cul-de-sac in a ?fairly quiet? retirement community.
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    He described the area as ?just a regular neighborhood? and added that nothing was ?out of the ordinary? when police searched the home on Monday. The spokesman said some weapons and ammunition were found in the house but would not specify the type or quantity.

    The Mesquite Police Department said they had no interactions with the couple, including traffic stops. Eric Paddock said that Ms. Danley was his brother?s girlfriend and that he did not think that they were married.

    Other details about Mr. Paddock?s life and hobbies have begun to emerge in the hours since the attack.

    Mr. Paddock had a private pilot?s license, according to Federal Aviation Administration, and had two small single-engine planes registered in his name. There are no records of Mr. Paddock having served in the military.

    Mr. Paddock?s ex-wife, who now lives near Los Angeles, told the Los Angeles police that they had divorced 27 years ago after being married six years. They had no children.

    His brother described Mr. Paddock was a wealthy guy who liked to play video poker and take cruises.

    ?He didn?t have active employment. His life is an open book,? the brother said. ?It?s all in the public record. He went to college, he had a job. You?ll find out.?

    Mr. Paddock spent several years living in Mesquite, Tex., an eastern suburb of Dallas. From 2004 and 2012, Mr. Paddock was associated with several properties in the city and had a Texas driver?s license that has now expired, according to a spokesman for the Mesquite police department.

    ?We have no record that we have dealt with him in any way,? said the police spokesman, Lt. Brian Parrish. ?We have no record that we?ve ever dealt with him.?

    Speaking to FloridaToday in Viera, where Mr. Paddock had a home, a neighbor, Sharon Judy, described Mr. Paddock as ?a normal man.?

    ?He seemed normal, other than that he lived by gambling,? Ms. Judy told FloridaToday. ? He was very open about that. First time we ever met him, he handed us the key to the house and said, ?Hey, would keep an eye on the house, we?re only going to be here every now and then.? ?
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    Broken windows at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on Monday. Credit John Locher/Associated Press

    Details of Mr. Paddock?s employment history are sparse.

    Lockheed Martin, the aerospace contracting company created by a 1994 merger, confirmed that he worked for one of its predecessor companies from 1985 to 1988. Lockheed Martin did not identify which company Mr. Paddock worked for specifically. The company said it was cooperating with law enforcement.

    The Dallas Morning News reported that Mr. Paddock lived and worked as a manager and owner of an apartment complex in the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, Tex., beginning in 2000.

    A resident, Priscilla McBride, said that Mr. Paddock roamed the apartment property, casually talking to residents.

    He moved away several years ago, she said, and they had not seen each other since. ?I thought, it couldn?t be,? she said. ?You would have never thought he would be killing people. You just never know.?

    The road leading to Mr. Paddock?s Mesquite, Nev., house was blocked on Monday, after the neighborhood was thrown into chaos by the news.

    ?It?s quiet and peaceful here,? said Rose Dean, a resident of the community, which accepts residents 55 and older. ?Everybody takes walks and waves at each other.?

    Ms. Dean, who has lived in the retirement community for eight months, said she did not remember meeting Mr. Paddock and was shocked to learn that he lived in Mesquite.

    ?Someone called me this morning and said, ?Hey, that was your neighbor!? ?

    Mr. Paddock?s father, Benjamin Patrick Paddock, had a troubled history. He was convicted in 1961 of committing a series of bank robberies, and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. He escaped from La Tuna federal prison in 1968, and was on the F.B.I.?s ?Top Ten? most wanted list, through most of the 1970s, according to someone familiar with the investigation.

    News accounts from the time said that Benjamin Paddock ?employed violence in attempting to evade arrest, and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, with possible suicidal tendencies.? He was recaptured in 1978 in Oregon, where he was running a bingo parlor.

    Benjamin Paddock was also convicted in Illinois in 1946 on 10 counts of auto theft and five counts of running a confidence game. Eric Paddock said the brothers did not know their father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soultosqueeze View Post
    I have a friend missing still from there. She was at the concert with her husband and a couple of other friends.. No one knows where she is. I am on the opposite coast. What can I do?! I feel so helpless.
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    CBS fired a legal executive Monday after she wrote on Facebook that she was not "sympathetic" to the victims of the mass shooting in Las Vegas.

    ?I?m actually not even sympathetic bc [because] country music fans often are Republican gun toters," former executive Hayley Geftman-Gowrote wrote.

    At least 58 people were killed and over 500 injured after a gunman opened fire at a country music festival in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

    "This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS," the network said in a statement Monday.

    "Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families.?

    The Daily Caller first flagged Geftman-Gold's post Monday morning.

    ?If they wouldn?t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing," wrote Geftman-Gold, who served as VP and Senior Counsel of Strategic Transactions at CBS.

    The post quickly went viral, with Geftman-Gold's name and "CBS Exec" both becoming top trending topics on Twitter.

    President Trump condemned the mass shooting on Monday morning, calling it "an act of pure evil? in an address to the nation.

    ?We join together in sadness, shock and grief,? Trump said at the White House. ?It was an act of pure evil.?

    Trump said he would travel to Las Vegas on Wednesday.

    The suspected gunman has been identified as Nevada resident Stephen Paddock, according to Las Vegas police. The 64-year-old took his own life, according to police, as law enforcement closed in on his hotel room.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/35...serve-sympathy
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    I’m glad she was fired. That’s a pretty shitty thing to say. I’m pretty sure that the horror and rage at this shooting are bipartisan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    CBS fired a legal executive Monday after she wrote on Facebook that she was not "sympathetic" to the victims of the mass shooting in Las Vegas.

    ?I?m actually not even sympathetic bc [because] country music fans often are Republican gun toters," former executive Hayley Geftman-Gowrote wrote.

    At least 58 people were killed and over 500 injured after a gunman opened fire at a country music festival in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

    "This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS," the network said in a statement Monday.

    "Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families.?

    The Daily Caller first flagged Geftman-Gold's post Monday morning.

    ?If they wouldn?t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing," wrote Geftman-Gold, who served as VP and Senior Counsel of Strategic Transactions at CBS.

    The post quickly went viral, with Geftman-Gold's name and "CBS Exec" both becoming top trending topics on Twitter.

    President Trump condemned the mass shooting on Monday morning, calling it "an act of pure evil? in an address to the nation.

    ?We join together in sadness, shock and grief,? Trump said at the White House. ?It was an act of pure evil.?

    Trump said he would travel to Las Vegas on Wednesday.

    The suspected gunman has been identified as Nevada resident Stephen Paddock, according to Las Vegas police. The 64-year-old took his own life, according to police, as law enforcement closed in on his hotel room.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/35...serve-sympathy
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    BTW his brother says he has no history of mental illness.

    Some people are just fucking asshole garbage people.

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