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    Serial Killer H.H. Holmes' Body Exhumed: What We Know

    This was pretty interesting. I'd never heard of him before.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...e-know-w480344

    The remains resting in H.H. Holmes's coffin is being removed from its grave, and a team of researchers are hoping to find out if the they indeed belong to America's first serial killer. Last week, Philadelphia-based analysts started exhuming the body of what they presume to be Holmes, buried in Holy Cross Cemetery. He was supposedly executed by hanging just nine days before his 35th birthday, on May 7th, 1896, but rumors have persisted since his death that he actually escaped. Now, his descendants want to put a stop to this story once and for all.

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    Wasn't he the basis of the American Horror Story: Hotel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Wasn't he the basis of the American Horror Story: Hotel?
    My daughter keeps begging me to watch that series but I am refusing out of spite. I don't know if it was about him. She begged me to watch Pretty Little Liars and I got addicted. I felt like so old watching that show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmy_dreamy View Post
    My daughter keeps begging me to watch that series but I am refusing out of spite. I don't know if it was about him. She begged me to watch Pretty Little Liars and I got addicted. I felt like so old watching that show.
    I've never seen Pretty Little Liars-too young for me. AHS is definately geared for adults.

    All I learned about HH Holmes from AHS is that he killed a shit ton of people. I don't think there would be anything left of him now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    All I learned about HH Holmes from AHS is that he killed a shit ton of people. I don't think there would be anything left of him now?
    He was Americas First Serial Killer according to the article so, he must have been important. I don't know if there will be much for them to do DNA testing on. If they can, it will be interesting to find out if he escaped or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmy_dreamy View Post
    He was Americas First Serial Killer according to the article so, he must have been important. I don't know if there will be much for them to do DNA testing on. If they can, it will be interesting to find out if he escaped or not.
    I thought there had to be marrow left in the bone to do testing.

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    Yes but he's been in a wooden coffin (I'm assuming) since 1896. Wouldn't that have deteriorated by now? Especially given exposure to water?

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    He was one nasty fucker. They've based a lot of different movies on him. I'm not sure if he was the first, I thought Gunness was. But he not only killed here in the US but also in England. He would take out life insurance policies on both employees and people who were guests and then collect. There's a documentary on Netflix about him. I recommend it!

    ETA: I was wrong, Belle Gunness operated 1900 on. Another crazy fucker.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    I used to live not far from where he lived and did his killings in Chicago. I've always wondered if that land was haunted. There's a post office there if I'm not mistaken.
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    Oh wow- I'm pretty sure I've seen & read stuff about this guy. If I remember correctly, he killed a lot of people who were in Chicago for the World's Fair. And other people too. This should be interesting. Thanks for the heads up, Emmy!

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    He's heaps interesting! He was a crafty fella! The layout of the hotel is interesting as hell tooooooooo/fact he kept changing up builders so they didn't realise they were building a death maze.

    I think this link leads to some pix and such - http://www.apredatorymind.com/The_Tw...es_part_3.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by daisylane View Post
    He's heaps interesting! He was a crafty fella! The layout of the hotel is interesting as hell tooooooooo/fact he kept changing up builders so they didn't realise they were building a death maze.

    I think this link leads to some pix and such - http://www.apredatorymind.com/The_Tw...es_part_3.html
    Ok- yep, daisylane, that's the fella! I forgot about his place- it was like a maze. Staircases to nowhere & secret, hidden rooms. And no one knew the entire layout besides him. He went to enormous lengths to plan his murders, and there were a bunch of them. It's like something a depraved serial killer would do if he won big money in the lotto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queena View Post
    I used to live not far from where he lived and did his killings in Chicago. I've always wondered if that land was haunted. There's a post office there if I'm not mistaken.
    God damn it, people have died everywhere. No place is haunted!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezebelle View Post
    Ok- yep, daisylane, that's the fella! I forgot about his place- it was like a maze. Staircases to nowhere & secret, hidden rooms. And no one knew the entire layout besides him. He went to enormous lengths to plan his murders, and there were a bunch of them. It's like something a depraved serial killer would do if he won big money in the lotto!
    H. H. Holmes also was delighted most by listening to the muffled cries of his victims as he slowly suffocated them to death in their gas-filled sleeping quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catastrophe View Post
    H. H. Holmes also was delighted most by listening to the muffled cries of his victims as he slowly suffocated them to death in their gas-filled sleeping quarters.
    EEK!
    Catastrophe, I bet you tell the best ghost stories EVER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    He was one nasty fucker. They've based a lot of different movies on him. I'm not sure if he was the first, I thought Gunness was. But he not only killed here in the US but also in England. He would take out life insurance policies on both employees and people who were guests and then collect. There's a documentary on Netflix about him. I recommend it!

    ETA: I was wrong, Belle Gunness operated 1900 on. Another crazy fucker.
    This was really creepy and I enjoyed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puke View Post
    This was really creepy and I enjoyed it.
    I'm glad you liked it! He was a total psycho.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmy_dreamy View Post
    Yes but he's been in a wooden coffin (I'm assuming) since 1896. Wouldn't that have deteriorated by now? Especially given exposure to water?
    Based on the documentary Boston suggested it says he was buried in concrete. Also he was hung 121 years ago today and we share the same b-day.
    Last edited by puke; 05-07-2017 at 06:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puke View Post
    Based on the documentary Boston suggested it says he was buried in concrete. Also he was hung 121 years ago today and we share the same b-day.
    That's definitely creepy
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Thx for posting those illustrations berm! It's one thing to say Secret Chamber, but these illustrations really help to visualize it. It's like something out of a nightmare.

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    Erik Larson wrote a great book about H.H. Homes, "The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair That Changed America".

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    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...421397713.html

    TV Show Looks To Link H.H. Holmes and Jack The Ripper

    Cameras have been rolling all week at Holy Cross Cemetery in Yeadon, Delaware County. A television crew is recording a show on serial killer H.H. Holmes.
    Holmes’ descendants received approval from a judge to exhume their relative’s body and it turns out they need more time. They’ve asked the court to amend the initial decree to give them the time they need.
    Family lore indicates Holmes somehow escaped his own execution back in May, 1896.
    A DNA test on the exhumed body should put that question to rest.
    But the TV show in production on the case will also attempt to take Holmes’ story much farther, all the way to London.
    According to the History Channel’s website the show, "…sets out to prove a controversial theory: that H.H. Holmes and Britain’s most notorious serial killer, Jack The Ripper, were the same man.”
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    I've heard this theory before. Interesting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Have any of you weirdos been watching American Ripper?
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