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    NZ Man claims ex-girlfriend 'humiliated him and encouraged him to commit suicide.'

    Wasn't sure whether to post this here or Weird & Bizarre but at least some of what she is doing has to be criminal. I thought it had to be stolen pix she was using but apparently she Skype's with them so someone is going to ID her eventually. This girl is seriously fukked up


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...press-her.html

    (snipped)
    I poured vinegar down my penis for her': Man infatuated by 17-year-old 'Poison Ivy' suicide girl reveals the lengths men will go to satisfy her

    New Zealand teen suicide girl Hanna 'Poison Ivy' , 17, grooms men online

    Preys on vulnerable men and forces them to sexually humiliate themselves

    One man revealed how he 'poured vinegar down his penis for her'

    He is just one of many men who has revealed his infatuation for her

    Do you know who Poison Ivy is? Email leith.huffadine@mailonline.com
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4OFdYLAr5



    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=11735929


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-suicide.html

    The vid

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    Latest NZ article

    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=11736710

    By Nelson Groom
    An admirer of New Zealand teenager 'Poison Ivy' has livestreamed himself carving his own flesh with a kitchen knife - after she logged into the same webchat session.

    The Daily Mail has obtained confronting vision from the UIS of the man carving another woman's name into his arm during a stream among players of an online game.

    The man, who Daily Mail chose not to identify, is a follower of Poison Ivy who is accused of humiliating men from online gaming communities.

    Earlier in the footage Poison Ivy appears to log into the same streaming session, whereupon the man screams the New Zealand teenager's name in excitement.

    "Poison Ivy is in the chat. It's Poison Ivy in the chat, holy s***...," the man can be heard saying, to which a woman replies "yeah". The YouTuber who filmed the vision on streaming site Switch said the viewers were urging the man to self-harm.

    "Everyone was egging the guy on. He was taking it way too far, next thing he was taking his clothes off inserting a pen in his an*s," Vexxed told Daily Mail Australia.


    Things spiralled further out of control when one of the viewers urged the man to carve another female streamer's initials into his arm.

    "He went to the kitchen and brought back a knife. You would expect someone to stop him, but everyone was encouraging him to cut his arm."

    A woman can be heard saying "that's so hot" when the man begins bleeding from the knife-wound, while another man is heard bursting into laughter.

    Vexxed said he called the police in fear for the man's wellbeing: "He clearly needed help."

    Officers soon after attended his house and ended the stream, he said.

    The man in the vision has released several other videos declaring his love for the New Zealand teenager.

    It is not indicated Poison Ivy was directly urging the man to self-harm.

    The footage comes after a man claimed Poison Ivy was grooming unstable men, many of whom burst into tears while begging for forgiveness.

    Another YouTuber claimed Poison Ivy reportedly seeks vulnerable men in online gaming communities.

    His chilling video shed light on the antics and called for victims to help end them.

    Poison Ivy's Twitter account, which has since been suspended, was flooded with 900 images of men around the world declaring their love for her.

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    This is really odd but it sounds fake.
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    "Say, you know who could handle this penis? MY MOTHER."

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    I think her name is Hanna, the subject of the post needs to be fixed.

    Here is her Twitter that has not been suspended.

    https://twitter.com/osrs_trance?lang=en

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    The only person posting to her Twitter appears to be a whacked out boyfriend. There is no evidence of her being there at all.

    I'm more confused than ever.


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    did you make her into a wallet Bill? cuz if you did I'm off team Bill.

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    I agree, it sounds fake.


    DISCLAIMER: The following quotes are not in reference to your loved one. They are quotes found to be funny in regard to much older cases.

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    Okay this is the part where I admit he's kind of pretty, or at least he would be if he hadn't killed his sister and smeared poo on her candy.
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    Is she scowling in every pic, or is that her unfortunate face?!?

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    Um, this sounds like a psycho dude who got dumped and is bitter as fuck. That Twitter is clearly not her account.

    This seems like a really irresponsible news report enabling a stalker.

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    TBH this thread and its title make me very uncomfortable, am editing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCP777 View Post
    I think her name is Hanna, the subject of the post needs to be fixed.

    Here is her Twitter that has not been suspended.

    https://twitter.com/osrs_trance?lang=en
    This Twitter account is not hers and straight up belongs to someone obviously mentally unwell who is stalking her.

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    No, that twitter account belongs to the guy in the news articles - the one that shaved his head & eyebrows at her request.

    She had a twitter account but it was shut down by Twitter after the first media reports (see pic in first post). & she wasn't being stalked, the account was full of guys posting humiliating shit done at her request. She voluntarily joins their chats etc

    & did the title get changed? I thought it was some gaming observer making the allegations while the "abused boyfriend/s" were defending her? If I posted that it needs to be changed because it's not at all accurate - unless there have been further developments?



    If I'd had more time to trawl reddit I wouldn't have posted this yet because after reading through some of the gaming threads I'm nowhere near sure about this & if I'm not sure enough for forum posting no journalist should be publishing it as news.

    If it's not a troll she could do with some adult support though, that's for fukking sure.-


    Edit ignore the bit about the title. I forgot which article I posted - there were a few run in NZ
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    NZ Police are investigating her identity now. She sounds like a Kiwi so I guess we'll know if it was a troll soon enough.


    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=11737645


    Police Seeking "Poison Ivy"

    The teen reportedly finds vulnerable men in online gaming communities before blackmailing them into humiliating themselves sexually. Photo / Twitter
    By Anna Leask
    WARNING: Disturbing content.

    Police are appealing for information on a New Zealand teenager whose online antics with men have hit headlines around the world.

    Reports about the teenager, who purports to be a 17-year-old and uses the online moniker 'Poison Ivy', have been published in the Daily Mail and the Sun this week.

    It has been alleged that the teen reportedly finds vulnerable men in online gaming communities before requesting them to do various tasks.

    The teen's Twitter profile says she treats "all men like s*** because they are weak and they deserve it. I bully the weak to make them weaker as I simultaneously grow stronger".

    READ MORE:


    Internet users speak out about Kiwi teen 'Poison Ivy' and her online antics with men

    Disturbing moment 'Poison Ivy' admirer streams himself carving his own flesh

    Police in New Zealand confirmed they were aware of the media reports but were yet to launch an official investigation.

    "Based on initial enquiries, police have not been able to confirm if this individual is in New Zealand or whether there are any matters that need addressing from a police perspective," a spokeswoman said.

    "If anyone recognises the image of 'Hanna' aka 'Poison Ivy' as being a person residing in New Zealand, we would encourage them to contact police.

    "Police also encourage anyone who believes they are a victim of crime, in person or online, to report the matter to the police."

    Earlier this week an admirer of the teenager was live streamed himself carving his own flesh with a kitchen knife - after she logged into the same web chat session.

    The teen reportedly finds vulnerable men in online gaming communities before blackmailing them into humiliating themselves sexually. Photo / Twitter
    The teen reportedly finds vulnerable men in online gaming communities before blackmailing them into humiliating themselves sexually. Photo / Twitter
    The Daily Mail has obtained confronting vision from the UIS of the man carving another woman's name into his arm during a stream among players of an online game.

    DO YOU KNOW POISON IVY? SEND US AN EMAIL
    The footage comes after a man claimed Poison Ivy was grooming unstable men, many of whom burst into tears while begging for forgiveness.

    Another YouTuber claimed Poison Ivy reportedly seeks vulnerable men in online gaming communities.

    His chilling video shed light on the antics and called for victims to help end them.

    Poison Ivy's Twitter account, which has since been suspended, was flooded with 900 images of men around the world declaring their love for her.

    Earlier this week a man contacted the Herald and said the woman was his girlfriend.

    He said the claims were false and libellous and lawyers had been contacted about the international reports.

    If you know this woman, or have information that could help identify her, contact your local police station.

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    Ahh. Here's what's going on with his twitter account. I keep thinking it's a guy, maybe this guy in the vids, trolling all the other guys who's selfies (with Hanna scrawled on their foreheads)were deleted when Twitter shut her Poison Ivy acct - but then I remember she's on vid with them on Skype etc so there is a real girl from NZ in on this somewhere. (&I don't think she looks Asian either, she looks like she could have Maori heritage). If you watch the original vid it shows all the guy's pix that were posted on her own twitter account before they pulled it down.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/c...changed_a_bit/



    Edit & just realised no-one realised it was his twitter because I got distracted & forgot to link & label it yesterday
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    I read all of this info yesterday and strongly feel this is a psychotic, delusional individual using the internet to stalk this woman. The nature of this thread therefore makes me extremely uncomfortable because it is operating on his agenda and terms. Yes, I changed the title because the whole thing is coming from one obviously fucked up guy.

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    The video sounds fucky too. Like it's goal is to make fun of the victims calling them pathetic losers who could never date a woman outside of the internet or something like that. It didn't sound very real.
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    "Say, you know who could handle this penis? MY MOTHER."

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    I'm more than happy for you to delete it if you want, I should've made that clearer.

    The whole thing gets murkier if you go back through all the gaming threads, but whoever "she" is, she was willingly involved in it for a time. I'm not sure she's happy re the media coverage & police attention now, but she was definitely cool with it up until that point.

    & for sure, it could be one guy with hundreds of accounts talking to each other to make her look bad, & he's somehow got her to voluntarily join chats on vid & then somehow manipulated her so that her on-camera actions & conversation perfectly fit his plan. But I'm not sure even the most dedicated stalker could pull all of this off. It means co-ordinating countless twitter, ytube & reddit accounts PLUS the many, many active & longterm gaming accounts attached to each soc media account that are posting gaming screen grabs & professing in-game knowledge of player relationships. Each of those acounts has years of real-time gaming hours & real $$ spent on them & they're long-term members of reddit gaming sub's.

    This isn't something that's just suddenly appeared, she's been a subject of discussion within that gaming community for a long, long time, it's just that NZ media are involved now.

    So, yeah, there's a good chance it's fake in the sense that now the story has made it to media, the player "Poison Ivy" has talked followers who are still sympathetic into helping troll journalists to make the whole thing look like a troll so that it's all written off as a joke, even though there are some components of truth to it.


    I'm really uneasy about it because if it wasn't a 100% troll right from the start & this girl's age is accurate, she's under 18 & needs some help herself.

    I'm also not sure what NZ law is like for under 18s receiving in-kind payment in exchange for online "services". I'm pretty sure there's laws against paying/viewing u18s for certain types of pix/vids in the U.S though, so if some of the footage & screenshots being referenced in those gaming threads are for real & not the fabrications of a stalker, it would explain the involvement of NZ police. The story that's been published doesn't explain the police involvement at all & I really can't see why they'd be bothering with this unless they've ascertained some of the claims in the gaming threads are genuine - & that wouldn't be hard to do if the game's mods have already handed over enough to at least raise questions.

    But like I said, the whole thing seems way too questionable for media publication at this point. If it had only been in the DM I wouldn't have posted, but there were NZ Herald articles as well. The NZ Herald is usually a reputable source, so instead of digging around myself, I assumed everything had been vetted 100% & didn't read everything until later.

    I won't be making that mistake again - unless it later emerges there was information Herald journalists were asked to withhold until the police investigation was complete. If it turns out there's no withheld information, & the thread stays up, I'll link an NZ press complaints form for anyone who wants to lodge one.

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    & re the guy making the claims re vinegar in the first article, he's not the one who posted the accusatory ytube vid & this is supposedly a conversation with her after the article was published





    But it could be bullshit too, the "vinegar guy" wasn't named, it could be another sock puppet hydra so who knows WTF is going on

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    Last post until there's something from NZ police either debunking or confirming. This is a convo with a 2guys with U.S accents (1 supposedly the guy who cried/shaved his head) a girl with an NZ accent (supposedly Poison Ivy/Hanna), posted 4days ago, where she says she was just trolling guys who send her dick pix (& that the guy who shaved his head etc is her boyfriend)




    Basically it's just Runescape drama that made it into NZ media for inexplicable reasons. It *may* involve some degree of illegal activity that isn't outlined in the articles but it's not necessarily activity that I personally think should be illegal (given the age of consent where I & one of the parties live, & the age for child pornography where one of the parties lives)

    Press Complaints link if anyone wants it
    http://www.presscouncil.org.nz/complaints

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    Sorry!!

    - just cleaning up the mess I made by posting this without researching first.

    We probably need to change the title again & move it. If I wasn't so brain dead the other morning I would've put it somewhere else to begin with

    Anyway, the "boyfriend" (who shaved/flushed his head etc) is back in control of his twitter acct > @osrs_trance, because Twitter have restored hers > @PoisonIvyLul

    She's happily retweeting at least 2 of the guys who were called "abused men" in the many, many articles that ended up running - (ie head shave/toilet flush guy & "I poured vinegar into my penis hole for Hanna" guy) & they're both happily tweeting to her as well. So whatever this is, it's not stalking. They're all pretty happy with whatever it is that they've got going on.

    The only "not happy" people seem to be MarsRPG, the original accusatory vid creator, who is NOT an ex-boyfriend & was just a "concerned member of the Runescape community". Runescape is where this all started & it's apparently been a well-known drama for quite some time. MarsRPG has his defenders, but he's also getting a fair bit of shit for not recognising sub/dom rel'ships & for misinterpreting/misrepresenting a lot of the exchanges he witnessed.

    The "journalists" who reported on it presumably aren't too happy either, but as yet they're not getting a slapping from anyone - & seriously, this story was reproduced in SO MANY languages by friday that it's not funny & the comments were total witch hunt material - I don't like to mention that thread but I honestly forgot how insane people get when they have an "evil witch" to throw hate at. It's fukking frightening watching it build. REALLY FRIGHTENING.

    The journos are probably hoping something will come of the police investigation but I've seen a few comments saying she lied about her age to troll people too & is really 22, so unless there are questionable pix & vid from 4+ yrs ago there are probably no issues there either - it's all consenting adults.

    The only thing that may have really happened here is a "possible" breach of gaming rules - but that's not definite & even if it is, it sure as shit doesn't warrant media coverage.

    There are also a lot of highly offended red pill guys ranting about betas & evil witches but it's not just them saying the really horrible shit, there are just as many women spitting venom as well. I felt bad about posting an unblurred picture of her after reading some of this filth but she's still got pix up all over her own accounts so I guess it makes no diff whatsoever if there's one here


    I guess it's worth keeping as an example of a massive worldwide media troll, but it doesn't belong in the crime threads

    - unless we're starting a thread for crimes against journalistic integrity.

    & just saying, it says a lot about "credentialed journalists" that I feel worse about linking their stories on a fucking forum than they feel about publishing them in the first place.

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    Sorry I had to bump this. I've lurked these 2 on Twitter & apparently now they're living together. He must make decent money since he drives a BMW & she (or so she says) makes money as a dominatrix now. She's still making him do immaculate stuff. There's a video on his TL of him flushing his head in his toilet & saying how much he loves her. These 2 demented ppl belong together!

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    Damn!!

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    Ha I forgot about this one. NZ coppers must've appreciated the time they wasted on them then

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