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    https://www.daytondailynews.com/news...RwHk5gGCYj8GJ/

    And a custody dispute is being mentioned here as one of the causes for the murders.

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    https://expo.cleveland.com/news/g66l...ss-murder.html

    The Fallout continues

    PIKETON, Ohio — Fredericka Wagner spent 40 years teaching Sunday school in the Appalachian foothills, feeding the souls of the region’s children.

    Her two-story farmhouse on more than 1,600 acres in this tiny, southern Ohio village is a testament to those lessons.

    The Serenity Prayer hangs from her refrigerator door. A large, well-worn Bible sits on a kitchen countertop. An old blanket in the living room is embroidered with the message: “Our family is filled with hope and faith and held together with love and grace.”

    Today, Wagner’s family is separated. Her son, her daughter-in-law and her two grandsons are in jails in different parts of southern Ohio, awaiting trial for what authorities call one of the most brutal mass murders in Ohio: the execution-style slayings of eight members of the Rhoden family in rural Pike County in April 2016. If convicted, the four face the death penalty.

    For nearly 50 years, Wagner has been the matriarch of the family, running Flying W Farms, where her family has raised and sold horses, cattle and pigs on a rolling plot that rises over Piketon. Since the arrests, she has struggled to keep the farm solvent.

    “Nobody wants anything to do with me anymore,” she said, sitting at her kitchen table, where she recently spoke with The Plain Dealer for more than two hours.

    Her voice rose and fell as she described the fear, anger and bewilderment she has felt since the slayings. She talked about the investigation, her belief in her family’s innocence and the custody issue some authorities suggest is the motive in the murders.

    “We were terrified; everybody was,” Wagner said. “When I first heard about [the murders] that morning, I thought it was ISIS, or terrorists. I thought it was a terrorist attack.”

    A grand jury indicted Wagner, 76, in November on charges of obstruction of justice and perjury in connection with the murders. Authorities accused her of covering up the homicides by lying about a pair of bulletproof vests she bought online. She is free on $100,000 bond, although she wears an electronic ankle bracelet that alerts authorities if she goes more than 350 feet from her home.

    Rita Newcomb, the mother of Wagner’s daughter-in-law, was charged with perjury, obstruction of justice and forgery.

    Wagner, Newcomb and Wagner's family have denied the charges in Pike County Common Pleas Court.

    In initial hearings, attorneys for some of the accused agreed with prosecutors to a gag order, which prevents the attorneys in the case from speaking about it outside of court proceedings.

    Wagner’s attorneys declined, saying they wanted to present Fredericka's side, just as then-Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader did when announcing the indictments at a press conference in November.

    DeWine and Reader said Wagner’s son, George “Billy” Wagner; her daughter-in-law, Angela; and grandsons George and Edward “Jake” carefully planned the attacks for months, studying the Rhodens’ sleeping habits, the layout of their properties, and their pets.

    DeWine called it a massacre, an attack of “heartless, ruthless, cold-blooded murder.” The victims were Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40; Dana Rhoden, 37, Christopher Sr.’s former wife; their daughter, Hanna, 19; son Christopher, 16; and son Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20.

    Also killed were Christopher Sr.’s brother, Kenneth, 44; their cousin, Gary Rhoden, 38; and Hannah Gilley, 20, who was the fianc?e of Clarence Rhoden.

    Three children were spared: A days-old girl was found in the arms of her slain mother, Hanna; a 6-month-old boy, the son of Hannah and Clarence, was found sleeping between their bodies, according to DeWine and published reports. A 3-year-old boy, a second son of Clarence, also was not harmed.

    Three-year-old Sophia, the daughter of Hanna and Jake Wagner, was not with the Rhodens that night.

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    I got rather obsessed with this case, but then the Golden State Killer Case claimed me. However, I can give some updates (sorry for not posting links; these updates are from my memory, so they might be a little vague).
    -Grandma Fredericka Wagner’s charges were dropped.
    -Probably an unrelated note: word is that there’s ill will among the locals because she made gobs of money on selling mobile homes to people with little or bad credit, charging really high interest (yes, that’s common when the buyer has little or bad credit), evicting them when they defaulted, reselling the mobile home, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat. It’s all the “repeats” that irked a lot of folks there.
    -Sheriff Reader got busted for evidence tampering on an unrelated case, iirc. Anyway, it looks bad overall.
    -You may recall that the multiple mobile homes where the murders occurred were towed to a different location to preserve evidence, and a local investigative reporter observed that the new location was unguarded, unattended, unsecured and unlocked. This is an issue that some believe the defense teams will be able to exploit (and rightfully so, imo).
    -Former AG Mike DeWine is now Governor of Ohio. Not sure if that’s a plus or a minus, but it means he’s got different duties now, so that’s a further complication. Or a delay anyhow.
    -Speaking of delays: COVID.
    -Murder victim Hanna Rhoden‘s four-day-old baby girl (one of the children who were spared when the eight adults were killed) does not belong to Edward “Jake“ Wagner, who is one of the four defendants charged in the murders. Tests determined that her father was a different young man. From the beginning it was stated that Jake Wagner might or might not be the child’s father. This is important because prosecutors allege that the motive in the killings was an ongoing custody battle over Hanna and Jake’s daughter Sophia, now age four (or maybe five?), who was coincidentally (???)*** not with Hanna on the night she was murdered.
    ***Jake had picked up Sophia a day before the murders, which was not one of his usual days to keep Sophia. That could definitely show premeditation.
    -Furthermore, it’s been speculated that the murders, which prosecutors allege were planned far in advance, were postponed until after Hanna gave birth JUST IN CASE THE NEW BABY ALSO BELONGED TO JAKE. <<<<if so, damn that’s cold and calculating af
    I think that’s all the basics...

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    Jake Wagner has pled guilty and agreed to testify against the rest of his family.

    https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/...ty/7333052002/

    Pike County Rhoden murders: Baby's father pleads guilty, will testify against family
    HOLLY ZACHARIAH | The Columbus Dispatch
    WAVERLY — The air was thick with tension, and the quiet cries and sniffles of the surviving members of the Rhoden, Gilley and Manley families were the only sounds to be heard as Edward “Jake” Wagner stood in a Pike County courtroom Thursday and pleaded guilty to killing eight people, including the mother of his daughter.

    The stunning admission came on the fifth anniversary of the day that eight members of the Rhoden family were shot to death in three homes in four locations in rural Pike County. Wagner faced Pike County Common Pleas Court Judge Randy Deering as Deering read through each individual charge, he quickly admitted to each of seven counts of aggravated murder.

    Rhoden murders: See a timeline of the investigation into the Pike County Rhoden murders

    But when Deering asked Wagner for his plea to the aggravated murder charge for Hanna Mea Rhoden, the mother of Wagner’s young daughter, Wagner paused. He hesitated. His Adam’s apple bobbed, his face grew red. He held back tears.

    Everyone waited on edge for the words.


    Edward 'Jake' Wagner pleads guilty to all charges
    “I am guilty, your honor,” he finally said. By the day’s end, he had pleaded guilty to all 23 charges originally filed against him (his parents and older brother still face the same charges) for what investigators said was an elaborate and long-planned execution plot to get rid of anyone who might stand in the way of custody and control of Jake Wagner’s child.

    Rhoden murders: Eight members of southern Ohio family were killed in 2016. Where do the other cases stand now?

    In exchange for the plea, prosecutors have dropped the possibility of a death penalty, sparing the 28-year-old his life. The agreed-upon sentence, which will be handed down later, is that he will serve eight consecutive life terms without parole, plus more than 100 years for the sentences on all the other charges.

    In perhaps the most-stunning development of the surprise plea, which took place Thursday in a hastily scheduled hearing in Pike County Common Pleas Court with nothing listed on a public schedule until the last minute, Wagner agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in the cases against his parents and older brother.

    Listen: 911 call from Pike County mass shooting

    Charged along with Jake Wagner, are his father, George “Billy” Wagner III; Angela Wagner; and their other grown son, George Wagner IV. All were arrested in a coordinated take-down in various locations in November 2018. The family had moved to Alaska after the killings, but had returned to this part of the country by then and all were from the nearby Scioto County village of South Webster when arrested.

    Since the family taken into custody, investigators and prosecutors have painted a picture of a clannish family, one so insular and loyal to one another that they threatened every outsider who infiltrated the circle.

    The other Wagners have all pleaded not guilty. Jake Wagner's plea agreement, however, took the death penalty off the table for the rest of his family as well if they are convicted.

    After the fact: Rhoden relatives vie for custody of child survivors of shooting

    Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa shocked the courtroom yet again when she announced that Wagner has been cooperating with prosecutors for some time and that, with information he provided, investigators were finally able to recover the guns she said were used in the homicides as well as the vehicles that the family used to sneak onto the Rhoden properties, break into the homes and pull off what investigators have said were executions.

    Wagner has, Canepa said, also confessed to personally killing five of the eight victims.

    What happened to the Rhoden family?
    Killed were Dana Manley Rhoden, 37; her ex-husband, Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40; their sons, Christopher Rhoden Jr., 16, and Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20; their daughter, Hanna Rhoden, 19; Frankie’s fianc?e, Hannah Gilley, 20; Kenneth Rhoden, 44, a brother to Chris Sr; and Gary Rhoden, 38, a cousin to Kenneth and Chris Sr.

    Mourning those lost: Family clings together at a funeral like no other

    Most were shot multiple times at close range while sleeping. Kenneth was shot just once, and evidence at the home showed that Chris Sr. and Gary were awake when attacked.

    The case all started five years when a frantic family member called with a report of the first slaying at 7:49 a.m. on April 22, 2016, and alerted authorities to what would soon become one the most long-lingering homicide cases the state of Ohio has ever seen.

    Rhoden family faces Wagner in court
    Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk said the families of the victims agreed to the plea agreement.

    “This has been a long time coming," Junk said. "They're happy to get some justice, especially on this particular day," he says of the Rhoden, Gilley and Manley families.

    News: Relative of 8 victims of Rhoden family slayings files wrongful death lawsuit

    The surviving members of the Rhoden family filed into the courtroom Thursday with their civil attorneys, Adam Newman and Brian K. Duncan, who are handling the wrongful-death lawsuit the family has filed against the Wagners.

    Jake Wagner was at the center of the case from the beginning because he had a child with Hanna Rhoden, and prosecutors have said the killings were all about custody and control of children. Hanna had also just given birth a few days before the killings to a second daughter, and Jake Wagner also thought she might be his.


    Wagner faced more charges than the rest of his family, and is the only one of the four defendants who is represented by the state public defender's office, attorneys William Mooney and Greg Meyers.

    As the hearing began, Wagner was dressed in the blue jeans and a black long-sleeved shirt that he has been allowed to wear into court after being transferred from the Franklin County jail, where he has been held for security.

    ‘A man can’t bear it': Relative of Pike County victims speaks out

    When he first stood to face the judge, he removed his mask, tucked his hair behind his ears and smiled.

    As prosecutors and the judge ran through the details of the murders and the extent to which Wagner went to plan and carry out what essentially were executions, he stared directly at whomever was speaking and never flinched.

    In the gallery, the Manley, Gilley and Rhoden families stared him down. Some wept. Others just clutched tissues.

    Geneva Rhoden — the family matriarch whose losses on April 22, 2016, included two sons and several grandchildren — has watched the past few hearings on a livestream from downstairs. Thursday, with help from her family, she made it slowly up the courthouse steps with her oxygen tank and sat in the front row and hung her head as she cried.

    She told The Dispatch through tears: "I'm hanging in there."

    A look back: Family clings together as they lay 6 Pike County victims to rest

    Tony Rhoden, who became the family’s public face after the killings sat beside his mother, his arms crossed over his barrel chest, and stared Wagner down. The emotion of the day was too much for the family to talk right now. He said they all need time to process what the guilty pleas mean and just take care of themselves, noting there are three more cases to go.

    Prosecutor Junk said it was no coincidence they were in court for the guilty plea on this anniversary.

    Rhoden, Gilley and Manley families 'happy to get some justice'
    "This has been a long time coming," Junk said. "They're happy to get some justice, especially on this particular day," he said of the Rhoden, Gilley and Manley families.

    The case has been difficult for everyone involved, he said, noting the exhaustive list of investigators and prosecutors it has taken for the case. But he said the plea agreement was in the best interest of justice.

    Saying goodbye: On a rainy day, friends, family bury Pike County shooting victim Hannah Gilley

    "It's been a long five years for all of us," he said, "most importantly for the surviving family members you see in this court today."

    Special Prosecutor Canepa, after reading for the judge a harrowing account of how well-planned the homicides were, noted that the state appreciated Wagner’s admissions and cooperation.

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    https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/...t-left-8-dead/

    A grandmother admitted Friday to her role in the 2016 murders of eight members of another family over the custody of her granddaughter.

    Angela Wagner, 50, pleaded guilty to several lesser charges, including conspiracy to commit aggravated murder, in the April 22, 2016 massacre of the Rhoden and Gilley families. Other charges included aggravated burglary with firearms specifications, unlawful possession of a dangerous ordinance, tampering with evidence, forgery, and unauthorized use of property.

    Prosecutors have said Angela Wagner and her husband, George ?Billy? Wagner and her two sons, Edward ?Jake? Wagner and George Wagner IV, committed the crimes so the family could have sole custody of a little girl Jake Wagner had with Hanna Rhoden. Jake Wagner pleaded guilty on the fifth anniversary of the murders earlier this year.

    More @ link

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    They all may as well plead guilty. I'm not too far from where the murders happened. There are no good people in this case, besides the kids.

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    I can't even imagine the mindset it takes to murder a whole family like this. Just evil.
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    What I dont get is how these dummies thought they would get away with it and get custody of the kid. They had a better chance fighting for custody in court.

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    Awwww WAHHHHHH. Honestly. Fuck both of these assholes. If they wanted to avoid the death penalty, I have a great way where they could have done that. By not killing 7 people.
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    WAVERLY, Ohio — Prosecutors in the Pike County massacre case laid out new evidence Monday to paint the Wagner family as a "criminal enterprise" during a hearing on what could be allowed at trial, saying the family allegedly took a vote to commit the murders and then set up a fake drug deal as an ambush.

    In a list of so-called "other acts" evidence, which it wants to use in George Wagner IV's upcoming murder trial, the prosecution say the other bad acts describe the Wagner family as a unit bent on criminality.

    "This is very much a family affair," said special prosecutor Angela Canepa. "All for one and one for all."

    A list of the evidence, submitted to the court more than one year ago, focuses extensively on other members of the Wagner family. In court Monday, prosecutors described patterns of behavior against Jake Wagner's ex-wife and ex-girlfriend.

    A custody dispute over Jake Wagner's daughter with Hanna Rhoden prompted the planning of execution of the massacre in April 2016, investigators said. The document describes his relationship with Rhoden as "controlling," even abusive. It claims there is evidence he threatened to kill her, was jealous of her other relationships and tried to have others spy on her.

    Canepa said Jake Wagner pressured Rhoden to put his name on her second child's birth certificate, even though he was not the father. She said Jake Wagner treated an ex-wife and ex-girlfriend in similarly threatening ways, noting the ex-wife eventually signed over custody of their child for limited visitation.

    Other evidence listed ties more directly to the murders, including how the Wagners got onto Rhoden property the night of April 21, 2016.

    Canepa said the Wagner patriarch, Billy, set up a fake "lucrative" drug deal meeting with Christopher Rhoden Sr. at his Union Hill Road property, but it was an ambush.

    "Chris Sr. expected to see Billy Wagner that night," Canepa said. "He did not know Jake and George were present, because they were hidden in the car."

    That new fact squares with an anecdote Dana Rhoden's late father, Leonard Manley, told reporters shortly after his daughter and her family were found dead.

    “Whoever done it know’d the family because there were two dogs there that would eat you up, but I ain’t gonna say no more,” Manley said at the time.

    Prosecutors pointed to votes taken by the family as another example of its solidarity. Canepa said the family members took a vote on the murders themselves. She said mom Angela Wagner told investigators about it when she pleaded guilty to conspiracy, evidence tampering, burglary and other charges last year.

    "She speaks vividly of recalling speaking to Jake and George and asking if they were sure they wanted to go through with this, to which they both said 'yes,'" Canepa said.
    Full story can be found here: https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/pros...massacre-trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    What a family!
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    What a family!
    Right??

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    These people are cold and scary. They've forever ruined that part of Ohio for me. The racism, the unapologetic demeanor they project it's all beyond comprehension. I don't understand violence of this nature. You will never get away with it.

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    https://www.10tv.com/article/news/lo...6-cbee0d43d262

    WAVERLY, Ohio ? A woman who helped plan the 2016 slayings of eight members of another family, a crime that shook rural southern Ohio and stymied investigators for over two years, says the massacre was her husband?s idea.

    Angela Wagner made the claim while testifying Tuesday at the murder trial of her 31-year-old son, George Wagner IV, who could face the death penalty if he is convicted. She was expected to return to the stand Wednesday.

    The slayings stemmed from a child custody dispute involving another of Angela Wagner's sons and one of the victims, authorities have said.

    Angela Wagner said that her younger son, Jake, had wanted to kill his child's mother, but that her husband, George ?Billy? Wagner III, objected because he believed the woman's family would seek revenge.

    ?They?ll know, and then they come for Jake. They?d shoot him, if not all of us,? Angela Wagner said her husband told told her. He also said the rest of the woman's family ?had to be murdered,? she testified.

    Angela Wagner pleaded guilty in September 2021 to 14 counts and agreed to testify against her older son and her husband. In return, prosecutors dismissed eight counts of aggravated murder and agreed to not seek the death penalty.

    Jake Wagner pleaded guilty in April 2021 to shooting five of the victims, saying he had no choice but to kill the mother of his daughter, a toddler at the time.

    George Wagner IV ? who is accused of helping to plan the killings ? is the first person to go on trial for the killings. His father has pleaded not guilty and likely won?t go on trial until next year. Mark Collins, an attorney representing George ?Billy? Wagner III, declined comment Wednesday citing the judge's gag order in the case.

    The four members of the Wagner family were not arrested until more than two years after the slayings.

    Those killed were 40-year-old Christopher Rhoden Sr.; his ex-wife, 37-year-old Dana Rhoden; their three children, 20-year-old Clarence ?Frankie? Rhoden, 16-year-old Christopher Jr., and 19-year-old Hanna Rhoden, the mother of Jake Wagner's daughter; Clarence Rhoden?s fiancee, 20-year-old Hannah Gilley; Christopher Rhoden Sr.?s brother, 44-year-old Kenneth Rhoden; and a cousin, 38-year-old Gary Rhoden.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...re-8-rcna62374

    Ohio man is sentenced to life behind bars for his role in family massacre of 8

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