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    Exactly what I feared.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Oh sorry, I meant Nicole's FB. In articles it mentions she has a facebook, just wondering if anyone has been able to find it...
    Oh. The heavy article had one linked to her, but by the time I clicked it- it was changed to the finding Nicole Facebook page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    Sounds like a sting to me.
    My husband said the same 😂
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    Yeah this is it...wasn't a memorial yesterday
    https://www.facebook.com/madison.lov...ref=ts&fref=ts
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshmallow View Post
    I just had this come across news feed. What was this young lady thinking? helping dispose of a body?
    Me too. I mean, it goes without saying that her life as she knows it is over, but the real question is why?

    Why would you agree to do such a horrible thing? On what planet do you think it's okay to help someone hide a body? What part of your brain is missing that makes this okay to you? Jezus effing Christ!!
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    http://m.nydailynews.com/news/nation...icle-1.2517768

    Teen was fatally stabbed after Virginia Tech kidnapping
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    The Virginia girl found dead days after disappearing from her home was likely stabbed to death, police said Tuesday.

    A “very preliminary” investigation showed that Nicole Lovell, 13, was fatally stabbed last Wednesday — the same day she went missing from her Blacksburg home, Montgomery County Commonwealth's Attorney Mary Pettitt said in a press conference. Police found her remains Saturday, just across the North Carolina border.

    A Virginia Tech freshman, David Eisenhauer, was charged over the weekend with kidnapping and first-degree murder. The next day, sophomore Natalie Keepers was charged the next day with disposing Lovell's corpse.

    TEEN MET ALLEGED VIRGINIA TECH KILLER ON 'OFF-THE-WALL' SITE


    Virginia Tech students David Eisenhauer and Natalie Keepers are now both charged with first-degree murder.AP/BLACKSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT
    Virginia Tech students David Eisenhauer and Natalie Keepers are now both charged with first-degree murder.
    Keepers is now charged with accesory before the fact of first-degree murder, Pettitt said.

    Police previously saidEisenhauer somehow knew Lovell before the kidnapping and killing. But Tuesday's conference shed no light on their relationship, or a motive for the slaying.


    Nicole Lovell's mother Tammy Weeks speaking through tears at Tuesday's press conference.WDBJ
    Nicole Lovell's mother Tammy Weeks speaking through tears at Tuesday's press conference.
    Lovell's shattered mother, Tammy Weeks, spoke briefly at the presser, recalling how her daughter perseveredafter a liver transplant.

    "Nicole was a very lovable person," Weeks said, her voice breaking down.

    "Nicole touched so many people throughout her short life."

    Nicole Lovell, 13, was fatally stabbed the day she disappeared from her home, police said.VIRGINIA TECH POLICE
    Nicole Lovell, 13, was fatally stabbed the day she disappeared from her home, police said.
    She walked away from the podium, leaving behind her written statement.

    "Yeah, I can't do that part," she said away from the microphone.

    Someone nearby read the passage — a famous anonymous poem — for her: "Our hearts still ache in sadness and secret tears will flow / What it meant to lose you, no one will ever know."

    After Lovell's death, Weeks said her daughter met Eisenhauer on"some off-the-wall site I never heard of." A neighbor told The New York Times Lovell talked to Eisenhauer through Kik, a messaging act tied to several recent sex crimes involving minors.

    Lovell put a dresser in front of her bedroom door and climbed out her window the day she disappeared, her mom said.

    Eisenhauer and Keepers made no remarks about the case during brief court appearances Monday. Eisenhauer's only statement thus far came in a police document from his arrest, which came the same day police found Lovell's body.

    "I believe the truth will set me free," it said.


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    Hmu next time, we'll have some soapy gins and then draw each other naked. Until we get kicked out.

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    This girl (and her parents) had been through a lot. Liver transplant at 10 months old, non-hodgkins lymphoma at 4, acquired acute respiratory distress, fell into a coma for 6 months and developed MRSA.
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    So if Natalie is now charged with being an accessory before the fact of first degree murder and concealing a body and accessory after the fact...what part of the the whole thing wasn't she involved with that is keeping her from being charged with just plain old first degree murder too? It's not like she had to be the one to actually stab her to get charged with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    So if Natalie is now charged with being an accessory before the fact of first degree murder and concealing a body and accessory after the fact...what part of the the whole thing wasn't she involved with that is keeping her from being charged with just plain old first degree murder too? It's not like she had to be the one to actually stab her to get charged with it.
    From what I can tell by googling..Natalie was not present at the scene during the commission of the crime. She either had knowledge or convinced him to commit the murder then helped him conceal the body. Will come out in time I'm sure. Cops were searching for something in the median of 460 on my way home from work today which is about 1/4 mile from the pond they were searching a couple nights ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star
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    This keeps getting worse and worse! RIP Nicole!

    A 13-year-old girl allegedly abducted and killed by a Virginia Tech student was stabbed to death, according to preliminary results, Montgomery County Commonwealth?s Attorney Mary Pettitt said at a news conference today.

    A formal report of the cause of death has not yet been completed, Pettitt said.


    Nicole Lovell, 13, of Blacksburg, Virginia -- the city where Virginia Tech is located -- went missing Jan. 27, the Blacksburg Police Department said. Her body was found on Saturday in Surry County, North Carolina, which is near the Virginia border, police said.

    2 Virginia Tech Students Arrested After Cops Recover Body of Missing Teen
    What We Know About the Suspects in Death of 13-Year-Old Virginia Girl
    Mom of Girl Allegedly Slain by Va. Tech Student Describes Daughter's Hopes, Illness
    Investigators are working to reconstruct the timeline of both suspects, Chief Anthony Wilson of the Blacksburg Police Department said at a news conference this afternoon.

    Virginia Tech student David Eisenhauer, 18, was charged Saturday with first-degree murder and one felony count of abduction, police said.

    Virginia Tech student Natalie Keepers, 19, was charged today with being an accessory before the fact to first-degree murder, officials said. That charge carries a term of from 20 years to life in prison. She's also charged with concealing a body and being an accessory after the fact, which carry a maximum of 10 years and 12 months in jail respectively.

    The police said investigators looking into Nicole's disappearance were led to Eisenhauer on Friday night. Eisenhauer was first charged on Saturday with one felony count of abduction, police said. Then after Nicole's body was found Saturday afternoon, he was also charged with murder, police said.


    Eisenhauer and Nicole "were acquainted prior to her disappearance," police said this weekend. "Eisenhauer used this relationship to his advantage to abduct the 13-year-old and then kill her. Keepers helped Eisenhauer dispose of Nicole's body."

    Eisenhauer's attorney, Chris Tuck, and Keepers' attorney, Kristopher Olin, could not be immediately reached by ABC News today for comment.

    Eisenhauer, who is from Columbia, Maryland, ran cross country at Virginia Tech, and in 2015, while still in high school, he was named the Howard County, Maryland, indoor track Athlete of the Year, according to the Baltimore Sun.

    Eisenhauer was a senior in high school in March 2015 when he was featured as a "Student Athlete of the Week" on ABC affiliate WMAR-TV in Baltimore.

    "I just have this internal thing saying I want to be the best. There's no reason why I cannot be as good as other people are," Eisenhauer told WMAR-TV at the time. "I will personally not stop until I reach my peak performance which could be anywhere."

    Eisenhauer told WMAR he wanted to run track in college and wanted "to get as many years out of it as I can. ... and I want to run for a school that has a good distance program or one that I feel that I will fit in with and excel."

    Editor's note: A previous version of this story stated that Natalie Keepers was charged with first-degree murder. She was charged with being an accessory before the fact to first-degree murder.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/13-year-all...665148&ts=true

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    I was wondering the same thing and I am waiting to see what else is going to come out because when they arrested him he told the cops "The truth will set me free" it could be bs but I do think he is going to at least try to blame it all on her.

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    Poor little girl, she was just a baby

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/worl...02-gmk58i.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evening Star View Post
    Poor little girl, she was just a baby

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/worl...02-gmk58i.html
    Concerns grow over app after a 13-year-old's online fantasies turn fatal

    There are few holes deeper than those in the heart of a 13-year-old girl.
    For many, it is an age of painful yearning, of a life lived in imaginary cloud worlds, away from acne and algebra and all that awkwardness.




    It used to be 13-year-olds would cry into their pillows. Or write in rainbow-covered journals, with rainbow pens. Their pain was private. Still, most endured, and survived.


    But Nicole Madison Lovell found something we all wanted when we were 13: an audience.
    There are people out there who listen to sad, lonely girls, tell them they are beautiful and smart. They were right there - in Nicole's bedroom.


    She asked them if she was cute. She flirted with them. She showed them coquettish pictures of herself. She was a social-media-savvy tween when she told them all about her first kiss. Her imaginary cloud world wasn't private. On Facebook, Instagram, Kik, in chats and groups, she wasn't the kid with the liver-transplant scars, or the baby-fat girl bullied in her seventh-grade classes. She was a flirting, dating teen with lip gloss and great lines.
    And Nicole did not survive.
    She left her house at midnight on Wednesday, shoving a nightstand against her bedroom door and leaving with a water bottle and a Minions blanket. Her body was found in North Carolina, right across the Virginia line.






    A Virginia Tech engineering student has been charged with her abduction and killing. We still don't know what evidence led police to 18-year-old David Eisenhauer, a track star from Columbia, Maryland, who ran for Virginia Tech.
    A second arrest Sunday was just as shocking. Natalie Marie Keepers, 19, is accused of helping Eisenhauer get rid of Nicole's body. She's an engineering student from Laurel, Maryland, who once interned at NASA.
    Police told Nicole's mom, Tammy Weeks, that they think the sweet-faced girl met Eisenhauer online.


    The details of that are still unclear, but here's what we know for sure: Nicole led an active, imaginary life online, meeting people on Kik, a messaging app that has been the bane of law enforcement officials for the past couple of years.
    The app grants users anonymity, it allows searches by age and lets users send photos that aren't stored on phones.
    It's popular with tweens and teens - and predators.


    "Unfortunately, we see it every day," said Lieutenant James Bacon, head of the Fairfax County, Virginia, Police Department's child exploitation unit.
    That unit caught a State Department senior counter-terrorism official, Daniel Rosen, trying to arrange a tryst with a child using Kik. He pleaded guilty to stalking and voyeurism and is serving a 32-month prison sentence. And he hasn't been the only one using this app to hunt victims.
    "Kik became the latest thing," Bacon said. "It's attractive to predators because of its anonymity. You can make a Kik account and you can make yourself out to be anyone you want to be."

    And because Kik is based in Canada, law enforcement officials have had a tough time getting the company to cooperate on cases, Bacon said.
    This shadow world may be where Eisenhauer met Nicole, police told her mother. "It was some off-the-wall site I never heard of," Weeks said in an interview with The Washington Post.
    In the digital age, any parent can be Tammy Weeks. Smartphones have made it easier to keep tabs on our children - and much, much harder.
    Teens have been outmanoeuvring their mothers and fathers for decades. Back in my day, we told our parents that we were spending the night at Melanie's house when we were really at the Echo and the Bunnymen show an hour away, Ferris Buellering our way through adolescence.
    But a lot of times, our parents won, because they caught us sneaking out. Or they called Melanie's mom.
    This world? The predators aren't just hiding behind the Galaga machine at the arcade. They're in our kids' pockets, in their backpacks, in their bedrooms.
    It's not okay to play the Luddite. Bumbling dad with the remote control only the kids can figure out needs to die along with dad jeans.
    Know your kids' digital lives. Prowl their email, their laptops and their phones.
    "Have your kids' passwords," Bacon said. "Have a working idea of how to use your kids' phone. Mum and dad bought it for them, for crying out loud. They need to know how to use it."
    Remember iPhone dad? He's the poor guy who had a two-year legal battle in Dallas after he was arrested on a property-theft charge for taking away his daughter's iPhone when she used it in a horrid way. He was right. Be like iPhone dad.
    Bacon said he tells parents to never let their kids have in-depth, online conversations with strangers. If your kid has crossed the line, ask your phone carrier to have your kid's phone mirrored to your phone.
    "Every text, every picture they send, Mom and Dad can see on their device," he said.
    My kids hate it when I do that. Too bad.
    Not long ago, I was going through the search history on my 11-year-old son's laptop. Nerf guy, Lego, Nerf, Cats vs. Cucumbers, Curves. Wait! Curves?
    I clicked on that one, my stomach lurching at the thought of a porn conversation with my tween.
    "Curves - the Hot Wheels Track Builder Challenge!" Whew.
    But who knows what the next day will bring? And that's chilling. Because Nicole had no idea about the potential dangers lurking at the edges of her online fantasy world.
    Remember what the lieutenant said: The police see it every day.


    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/worl...#ixzz3z7rPY7pr
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    Last edited by beli; 02-03-2016 at 09:15 AM.

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    This article is just heartbreaking to me. 13, liver transplant scars, a minions blanket, and looking for acceptance. Poor girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    SuchAClassicGirl- that actually sounds like an interesting class.
    Every time I read any of the background information on the perps, it seriously sounds like a character from How to get away with murder. The boy- a track star, the girl- a NASA intern.

    The 13-year-old met the boy online on some random site the mom has never heard of. I bet that's how police tracked him down so fast.


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-old-girl.html
    Regarding this quote... I heard recently that 'Netflix and chill' is teen code for sex. It's scary to me that there is a tinder for teens out there.
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    They DO know how it led to David, she had been playing with neighbor kids...twin boys I think and showed the texts on her Kik and saying she was sneaking out later to meet her boyfriend, David who was 18 and in college. Kids told their mom.
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    And this stupid Bitch Natalie's life is pretty much over too. She knew he was going to kill her before he did it (accessory before the fact). What a cunnnnntttttttt....
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    Investigators believe David Eisenhauer, the Virginia Tech student accused of killing 13-year-old Nicole Lovell, had an inappropriate relationship with the middle-school student, a law enforcement official said.

    The 13-year-old was planning to expose their relationship, the official said, and investigators believe he stabbed her to prevent that.

    The law enforcement official would not describe the nature of the inappropriate relationship.

    Investigators have been tight-lipped about the evidence they have that allegedly ties Eisenhauer to the killing.

    An attorney for the student has declined to comment on the case.

    Police arrested the 18-year-old college freshman late Friday. He was already facing charges the next morning, before Nicole's body was found.

    Police have said he and Nicole were acquainted before her disappearance, and that he "used this relationship to his advantage to abduct and then kill her."

    Eisenhauer did not lead authorities to the body, according to Blacksburg police Chief Anthony Wilson, nor did he confess to murder. Still, authorities managed to piece things together after sorting through social media, exploring 300-plus tips and searching for other information pertinent to the case.

    A spokesman for Kik, an app that allows users to send anonymous messages, told CNN on Tuesday that it had cooperated with an FBI investigation into the case.

    "This involved responding to multiple emergency requests under our Emergency Disclosure Request policy, according to which we release certain account information to law enforcement agencies for cases that involve imminent threat of death, loss of security or serious physical injury to any person," Kik spokesman Rod McCleod said.

    If he's convicted of first-degree murder, Eisenhauer faces a sentence of 20 years to life.

    His Virginia Tech classmate, 19-year-old Natalie Keepers, faces charges of being an accessory to murder before the fact, concealing a body and being an accessory to murder after the fact. Her attorney has declined to comment.
    http://wtvr.com/2016/02/03/inappropr...official-says/
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    Apparently Natalie was involved or had knowledge for weeks beforehand. Hubby wonders if they weren't both having sex with her
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchAClassicGirl View Post
    Apparently Natalie was involved or had knowledge for weeks beforehand. Hubby wonders if they weren't both having sex with her
    I want to vomit.
    She was 13.
    This girl sounds like she is just as guilty as the guy. If she knew before hand and didn't stop it then she should be charged the same. They killed a little girl for what? For fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defy Gravity View Post
    I want to vomit.
    She was 13.
    This girl sounds like she is just as guilty as the guy. If she knew before hand and didn't stop it then she should be charged the same. They killed a little girl for what? For fun?
    I think that he was having a sexual relationship with Nicole, and she was going to tell people about it so he killed her to keep from being labeled a child sexual predator. Based on ClassicGirl's last post it certainly seems that way. I am wondering if Natalie was into him and just wanted to help protect his reputation. Based on all I have read, I think Natalie should be charged with everything he is being charged with.


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    It gets darker:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Prosecutor: Va. Tech student helped plan Nicole Lovell&#39;s killing. Picked spot, bought shovel and disposed of body <a href="https://t.co/dAj8YERD9a">https://t.co/dAj8YERD9a</a></p>&mdash; justin jouvenal (@jjouvenal) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjouvenal/status/695301309457682433">February 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    Sorry! I can't figure out how to link a tweet!!!

    Go to this twitter account- https://twitter.com/jjouvenal?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    He says Natalie Keeper "helped plan murder, picked spot, bought shovel"

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    Our Annie Andersen was in court today and reports that Keepers admitted to be a cutter in high school.

    She was in and out of counseling through high school.

    Keepers also admitted that she had trouble adjusting to college.

    Keepers said her counselor in college then sent her to a psychiatrist who prescribed Prozac and other anti-anxiety medication.

    Her father said that "When he found out, it was like a punch to a stomach."

    The Commonwealth attorney said that Keeper told police that Keepers and Eisenhauer sat down and bounced ideas off of each other on how to kill Lovell.

    According to the Commonwealth attorney, they agree at the time that they should cut Lovell's throat.

    http://wset.com/news/local/suspect-i...in-court-today

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    CHRISTIANSBURG – Natalie Marie Keepers was denied bond on Thursday after a prosecutor presented evidence that she plotted to kill and hide the body of Nicole Lovell, a 13-year-old girl whom Keepers had never met or spoken to.

    Virginia Tech students Keepers, 19, and David Eisenhauer, 18, worked together to draw up a multi-step plan to kill Lovell, prosecutors said.

    They bought a shovel together, picked out a secluded location on Craig Creek Road and drove post Lovell's Blacksburg apartment in a calculated move, Montgomery County Commonwealth's Attorney Mary Pettitt said during the hearing.

    The plan was for Eisenhauer, charged with Lovell's abduction and murder, to lure Lovell out of the home late at night on the guise of a date, Pettit said. He would take her to the site they selected together and slit her throat, she said.

    Pettitt did not present any evidence that would suggest a motive for the murder.

    Eisenhauer told police he had communicated to Lovell in he days before her disappearance and he greeted the teen outside of her bedroom window at the Lantern Ridge apartment complex in Blacksburg on the night she went missing, Pettitt said.

    Eisenhauer told police he gave Lovell a "side hug" and then returned to Keepers' dorm on Virginia Tech’s campus. Keepers has also maintained she was not present at the time of the murder. She did, however, tell police she helped Eisenhauer load the body into the trunk of his Lexus and unload it into the location where she was dumped.

    more: http://m.roanoke.com/news/crime/blac....html?mode=jqm

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