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    [quote author=Peavey link=topic=6597.msg815157#msg815157 date=1208435279]
    Sure, because firing a warning shot, or shooting to injure a person isn't even an option, is it?
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    the story is fishy.  You can read more about it here.  http://www.fresnobee.com/updates/photo/story/531972.html

    I am going to copy and paste in case the story is archived and only available by subscription.


    Officer kills young attacker at Roosevelt High
    By Pablo Lopez / The Fresno Bee
    04/16/08 12:13:13
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    6:04 p.m.: The name of the Roosevelt High School sophomore shot and killed by a police officer was Jesse Carrizales, 17, family members said.

    Carrizales was killed after he attacked a campus police officer with a baseball bat shortly before noon, police said. He died at the scene. Carrizales' sister, Elisa Ortega, 27, said detectives notified the family about 2:30 p.m. She said they asked detectives why they didn't use a Taser, a non-lethal device that immobilizes with an electric current. The detectives did not answer the question, Ortega said. Carrizales had started at Roosevelt High in January. Before that, he was being home-schooled, his sister said. Ortega said Carrizales had no history of violence and was not affiliated with a gang. He was the youngest of 11 children.

    5:28 p.m.: Junus Perry, the Fresno police officer involved in the Roosevelt High School shooting, has been treated and released, a spokeswoman at Community Regional Medical Center said.

    5:25 p.m.: About 3 p.m., Fresno Unified school officials notified parents of the shooting through the district's automated telephone system.

    One message from Acting Superintendent Ruth Quinto went to all parents in the school district. Another message from Roosevelt Principal Loretta Aragon-Lopez went only to Roosevelt parents.

    Resource officer
    Junus Perry

    In her message, Quinto said, "I am calling to inform you of a serious and tragic incident at Roosevelt High School. At noon today a student and a Fresno Police Department school officer were involved in an altercation that resulted unfortunately in the student being shot and killed by the officer. This was an isolated incident and all students and staff were safe. School psychologists and support staff will be on Roosevelt's campus as long as necessary to support our students and staff during this difficult time."

    Aragon-Lopez said: "I am calling to provide you with additional information about the tragic isolated incident that occurred at our school today. A Roosevelt student was shot and killed by a Fresno police officer following an altercation at our school. What is very important for our parents and community to know is that all of our students and staff were safe as we went into an immediate lockdown."

    The principal suggested that parents talk to their children about the incident.

    After-school activities were canceled.

    The school will resume a regular schedule Thursday, and additional school psychologists and other support staff will be available for students and staff, district spokesman Susan Bedi said.

    2:13 p.m.: Adriana Sanchez, 19, said her sister, Angelica, a freshman at Roosevelt, was with the teenage attacker when the incident occurred.

    "It was her best friend," Adriana Sanchez said.

    Adriana said her sister was safe in the school gynmasium.

    Police said the attacker was 6-foot-2 and 200 pounds.

    The resource officer, identified by students as Junus Perry, is 38 and has been at the school for three years.

    Below is video that was streamed live from Roosevelt High School between 12:30 p.m. and 2 p.m.:

    Students being released from school:


    Awaiting release of students:


    News conference with Police Chief Jerry Dyer:


    Bee reporter Louis Galvan interviews a student outside the school:


    The scene outside Roosevelt High School:

    1:55 p.m.: Five students saw all or part of the attack and shooting, Dyer said. They are being questioned by police.

    The officer sustained a two-inch gash on his head. He was taken to Community Medical Center for treatment.

    Dyer said no students appeared to be in danger.

    1:48 p.m.: The attacker, identified as a 17-year-old sophomore at Roosevelt High, was shot once by the officer, Police Chief Jerry Dyer said at a news conference outside the school.

    The officer, described as a 10-year veteran of the Fresno force, was struck on the side of the head with a baseball bat, Dyer said. The bat was broken off at the handle, and the exposed end was covered with electrician's tape.

    "It was obvious this bat had been modified to be a club or a weapon," Dyer said.

    Dyer said the attack occurred just outside the resource officer's office. The officer fell backward from the blow, and the magazine of his primary handgun fell out as he hit the ground.

    The student attacker approached the dazed officer, who then pulled out another weapon, attached to his ankle, and fired.

    "Fortunately, this officer has a secondary weapon, and in this case, the weapon probably saved his life," Dyer said.

    1:22 p.m.: A Fresno police officer who works at Roosevelt High School shot and killed a boy today who struck him in the back of the head with a baseball bat.

    The incident occurred at 11:54 a.m. on the east side of Roosevelt High School campus near the basketball courts.

    The school remained on lockdown until further notice as of 1:10 p.m., said a message over the school's intercom.

    The officer, who was identified by students as Junus Perry, is employed by the police department as the school's resource officer, students said. Gardy Zuniga, 18, a senior at Roosevelt High, said her mother, resource teacher Adela Haro, watched the scene unfold from 10 feet away.

    "She was walking her students back to class when she saw a boy push the officer and the officer shot the boy and the boy died at the scene," Zuniga said, retelling her mother's story. Zuniga said the boy had been in trouble recently.

    Darius Bigby, 17, a Roosevelt senior, said a girl accompanying the boy had a baseball bat.

    "When I heard the shooting I ran," Bigby said while waiting off campus.

    Parents began arriving at the school shortly after noon.

    One mother, Helen Mata, said her daughter, Racquel, said she did not see the shooting but called her mother.

    "She said 'I'm OK, but come and get me," Helen Mata said.

    1:15 p.m.: A news conference with Police Chief Jerry Dyer is scheduled for 1:30 p.m.

    1:08 p.m.: A Fresno police officer who works at Roosevelt High School shot and killed a boy Wednesday who struck him in the back of the head with a baseball bat.

    The incident occurred at 11:54 a.m. at the Roosevelt High School campus.

    The boy with the baseball bat, identified as a student, was shot and killed by the Fresno officer.

    The officer, who was identified by the last name of Perry, is employed by the police department as the school's resource officer, students said.

    12:10 p.m.: Fresno police and fire departments are responding to a report of a shooting at Roosevelt High School in southeast Fresno.

    Details are sketchy, but Ken Shockley, public information officer for the Fire Department, said the initial report indicates there are two shooting victims at the school at Cedar and Tulare avenues.

    The report came in shortly before noon.




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    [quote author=Peavey link=topic=6597.msg815157#msg815157 date=1208435279]
    Sure, because firing a warning shot, or shooting to injure a person isn't even an option, is it?
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    Yeah, brilliant idea.  All he had to do was keep dodging the baseball bat that was being swung at his head, and had already landed once, and shoot him in the leg.  People are just out to make the cops look like bad guys, aren't they?

    Take the badge out of the equation.  If a guy comes up to another guy on the street, and clubs him with a baseball bat, and said victim shoots the guy - a self defense plea probably gets that guy out of it.  But, put a badge on the clubee, and all of a sudden he's the perpetrator. 

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    I guess that kid wasn't giving any warning swings.

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    Va. Tech gunman’s mental health records found
    Governor: Lawyers locate documents that had disappeared from university
    The Associated Press
    updated 8:29 a.m. MT, Wed., July 22, 2009

    RICHMOND, Va. - Missing mental health records for Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho have been found more than two years after the massacre, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine said Wednesday.

    Cho killed 32 people on April 16, 2007, then committed suicide as police closed in. His mental health treatment has been a major issue in the investigation of the shootings. But his mental health records were missing from the university's counseling center.

    Kaine said the records would be released as soon as possible. Lawyers in a civil lawsuit found the records in the possession of a former worker at the counseling center.

    The governor said taking confidential records from the counseling center was illegal and state police were investigating how the records disappeared.

    He said officials first would ask the administrator of Cho's estate to release the files. A second option was to subpoena the records.

    He also said he was not happy that the criminal investigation of the shootings failed to uncover the files.

    While a large part of the shooting investigation focused on how university officials and law enforcement responded following the first reports of shootings in a Virginia Tech dormitory, family members of the victims have also inquired about how the troubled Cho slipped through the cracks at university counseling.

    In April, on the second anniversary of the shootings, families of two slain students sued the state, the school and its counseling center, several top university officials and a local mental health agency, claiming gross negligence in the chain of events that allowed Cho to commit his killing spree.

    The lawsuits also claim a local health center where Cho had gone to say he felt suicidal did not adequately treat or monitor him. The status of the lawsuit was not immediately known.

    Holly Sherman, whose daughter Leslie was among those killed, said in November that she was less concerned with continued analysis of how university officials responded to the massacre and more interested in learning about Cho's mental treatment.

    Mike White, whose daughter Nicole was killed, said in November he was concerned about why Cho's mental records went missing.

    Andrew Goddard, whose son Colin was shot four times but survived, said there was more work to be done on mental health services. Goddard was appointed last year to the state board of Mental Health, Mental Retardation and Substance Abuse Services.




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    I really hope to see some mental health care reform come from this tragedy.

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    Va. Tech Staff Warned Own Families 90 Minutes Before Campus Alert

    RICHMOND, Va. - Some Virginia Tech officials warned their own families and the president's office was locked down well before a campus-wide alert was issued in the 2007 slayings of 32 people, according to a revised state report that details new fumbles in the response to the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

    One student survived several hours after being shot without anyone notifying her family until she had died, said the updated report, released Friday.

    At least two officials with a crisis response team called their family members after the first shootings at a dorm and about 90 minutes before the all-campus alert was issued at 9:26 a.m.

    The president's office was locked down at 8:52 a.m. and two academic buildings were also shut down before the general alert.

    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...,1188965.story

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    [quote author=socalj link=topic=6597.msg1467809#msg1467809 date=1260213001]
    Va. Tech Staff Warned Own Families 90 Minutes Before Campus Alert

    RICHMOND, Va. - Some Virginia Tech officials warned their own families and the president's office was locked down well before a campus-wide alert was issued in the 2007 slayings of 32 people, according to a revised state report that details new fumbles in the response to the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

    One student survived several hours after being shot without anyone notifying her family until she had died, said the updated report, released Friday.

    At least two officials with a crisis response team called their family members after the first shootings at a dorm and about 90 minutes before the all-campus alert was issued at 9:26 a.m.

    The president's office was locked down at 8:52 a.m. and two academic buildings were also shut down before the general alert.

    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...,1188965.story
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    Well, that's just fucking lovely.

    Seriously, how long could it have taken to send out an email to all recipients once staff had secured THEMSELVES behind locked doors?  About 30 seconds?  "There's been a shooting on campus; please take measures to secure yourselves immediately" or something to that effect just took me about 8.1 seconds to type. 

    I hope they get their collective asses sued off. 


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    A Reston family has sued Virginia Tech University, claiming that some officials there are responsible for their son's 2007 suicide.

    The suit, filed in Fairfax County Circuit Court on Friday by William and Elizabeth Kim, seeks $43 million from the university's Care Team in connection with the suicide of Daniel Kim, a senior at Tech at the time of his death.



    According to the filing, Daniel Kim committed suicide on Dec. 9, 2007, after telling friends and family members that he felt he physically resembled shooter Seung-Hui Cho and that he "was ashamed of being Asian." The suit claims that an online gaming friend, Shuan Pribush, who was a student at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, contacted Virginia Tech and warned them of Daniel Kim's suicidal tendencies about a month before Kim killed himself.

    Article: http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/cms/story.php?id=741

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    He killed himself cause he looked like a suspect?
    No wonder they call them the model minorities. Those fuckers don't have to deal with shit, and they crack under the slightest pressure. Well..this one did.
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    [quote author=Ron_NYC link=topic=6597.msg1468968#msg1468968 date=1260310312]
    He killed himself cause he looked like a suspect?
    No wonder they call them the model minorities. Those fuckers don't have to deal with shit, and they crack under the slightest pressure. Well..this one did.
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    He killed himself because he looked like another asian? There's 2 billion of them in China alone. You're probably going to look like at least a couple of them. Sounds like he just wanted an excuse to kill himself.

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    He killed himself because he looked like another asian? There's 2 billion of them in China alone. You're probably going to look like at least a couple of them. Sounds like he just wanted an excuse to kill himself.
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    True that!  You have to learn to embrace your dopplegangers.

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    [quote author=socalj link=topic=6597.msg1468941#msg1468941 date=1260309619]
    A Reston family has sued Virginia Tech University, claiming that some officials there are responsible for their son's 2007 suicide.
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    this is the part i find sad.  people don't kill themselves because they think they look like someone, just like they don't kill themselves because their girl left them, they lost their job, their cat got run over, blah blah blah.  the last thing the school needs is a fucking lawsuit over something they had no fucking control over.

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    The anniversary


    The ceremony has been held annually since the shooting, but it has taken on extra significance this year because of the looming graduation of many of the students who were freshmen at the time of the massacre -- a dwindling group that calls itself "the 4/16 generation."

    The thousands who are saying goodbye are preparing for the days ahead with feelings of nostalgia, camaraderie and survivor's guilt. Many are wondering what it will mean for Virginia Tech after they are gone, when most of the witnesses leave Blacksburg and become alumni.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/15/AR2010041505727.html

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