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    Mark Ward Faville (72) Killed Himself in Courthouse

    A MAN committed suicide in a US courthouse just seconds after a jury convicted him of killing his wife, according to media reports.
    The dramatic incident took place at the courthouse in Christiansburg, Virginia, where Mark Ward Faville was on trial for suffocating
    his wife Anne 15 years ago.
    The 72-year-old had just been convicted of voluntary manslaughter and the judge had called for a short recess prior to sentencing.
    Faville had been led out of the courtroom into a holding room when a commotion was heard, according to the Roanoke Times.

    The paper said that a police sheriff was heard yelling "drop it, drop it!" and the entire fourth floor of the courthouse was evacuated.
    It was not immediately clear how the defendant died but Christiansburg town spokeswoman Becky Wilburn said the cause of death was
    "self-inflicted".
    Several sources told the paper that a gun was not involved and it is known that court bailiffs, who escort defendants in court, do not carry guns for fear they could be grabbed from them.

    During the week-long trial Faville's two daughters testified against him, remarking on his strange behaviour in the time leading up to their mother's death.
    They said he had grown suspicious of her and had taken to following her when she went out on errands.

    The jurors heard how an initial autopsy concluded that Anne Faville died from choking on a piece of chicken. However, a second autopsy done 12 years later at the request of police ruled that Anne Faville had been deliberately suffocated.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/brekkie...=1428782713005
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    This reminds me of the guy who took some kind of poison after he was convicted of a crime and died in the courtroom too. DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncomfortablyNumb View Post
    This reminds me of the guy who took some kind of poison after he was convicted of a crime and died in the courtroom too. DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME!
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same way.
    I would put money on it that you are correct. And I don't have any money, so please be correct.
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    She transitioned from a stupid asshole to a dumb bitch.

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    It's either that or he slit his wrists with a shank.
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    I'm wondering how they came to the conclusion after 12 years that she had been suffocated. They exhumed the body, but it couldn't have been in great shape. Maybe the guy was innocent and that's why he offed himself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    It's either that or he slit his wrists with a shank.

    Self inflicted wound according to this article:

    http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/man-...house/32304924

    According to that article Boston, they originally thought the wife had choked on a piece of chicken, but new information came to light.

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    Maybe he stabbed himself with his lawyers pen.

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/mo...887e09d3e.html

    Boston...The body had been cremated.

    The wife had reconnected with a lover from high school. She had told her husband and she was moving out the next day when she choked on chicken, dining alone. The pictures from the autopsy were used and the coroner changed his opinion from when he did the original autopsy. She had bruising on her body and some small cuts to her face.

    Testimony came from his daughter who described his behavior as hysterical and frantic in the days prior to her death.

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    I know. But that's my point. There was obviously chicken in her windpipe during her first autopsy. Nobody finds it at all strange that they all of a sudden decide it was suffocation? What does the tissue look like after 12 years in the ground? How can they determine suffocation on a corpse that old? And who's to say that if she did have damage like bruising that it wasn't caused by the Husband trying to keep her from choking?

    It just seems strange to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    Maybe he stabbed himself with his lawyers pen.

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/mo...887e09d3e.html

    Boston...The body had been cremated.

    The wife had reconnected with a lover from high school. She had told her husband and she was moving out the next day when she choked on chicken, dining alone. The pictures from the autopsy were used and the coroner changed his opinion from when he did the original autopsy. She had bruising on her body and some small cuts to her face.

    Testimony came from his daughter who described his behavior as hysterical and frantic in the days prior to her death.
    Okay... Then maybe. I still don't see how they convicted on circumstantial evidence years later. I don't know.
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    I agree, it's just so weird for the medical examiner to change his mind after all these years. The daughter was on the moms side during the split. The mom planned to move in with the daughter the next day.

    I try to put myself in the old guys shoes. Your 60yrs old and your wife is having an affair with her high school sweetheart. I'm sure she was behaving in a shady way while having this affair, so of course the husband would be suspicious and paranoid. The wife told her daughter she would have to sneak around and whisper to use the phone. At 60yrs old, how does a man get past that sort of betrayal? It's not like he would have much luck hitting the singles bar and finding a new mate. I'd stab myself with a pen too. Your wife is dead, your kids think you killed her. They hated him before she died and he had thanksgiving alone for the last 15yrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    I agree, it's just so weird for the medical examiner to change his mind after all these years. The daughter was on the moms side during the split. The mom planned to move in with the daughter the next day.

    I try to put myself in the old guys shoes. Your 60yrs old and your wife is having an affair with her high school sweetheart. I'm sure she was behaving in a shady way while having this affair, so of course the husband would be suspicious and paranoid. The wife told her daughter she would have to sneak around and whisper to use the phone. At 60yrs old, how does a man get past that sort of betrayal? It's not like he would have much luck hitting the singles bar and finding a new mate. I'd stab myself with a pen too. Your wife is dead, your kids think you killed her. They hated him before she died and he had thanksgiving alone for the last 15yrs.
    Well now I'm kind of sad for him.

    I'm so confused.
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    She transitioned from a stupid asshole to a dumb bitch.

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    Knowing the actual evidence would help. I guess based on a witness who was close to her and a picture as your only evidence doesn't sit well with me. I just wish there was more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Knowing the actual evidence would help. I guess based on a witness who was close to her and a picture as your only evidence doesn't sit well with me. I just wish there was more.
    Yep. How can they convict someone with just that. It seems like he had either the shittiest attorney ever or there is a lot more to this story.
    Most 70yo men I know would rather die than go to jail after all of that, there is a lot of pride in that age group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    Maybe he stabbed himself with his lawyers pen.

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/mo...887e09d3e.html

    Boston...The body had been cremated.

    The wife had reconnected with a lover from high school. She had told her husband and she was moving out the next day when she choked on chicken, dining alone. The pictures from the autopsy were used and the coroner changed his opinion from when he did the original autopsy. She had bruising on her body and some small cuts to her face.

    Testimony came from his daughter who described his behavior as hysterical and frantic in the days prior to her death.
    i feel pretty sure i'd have bruises on my body and possibly scratches on my face if i was chocking on a piece of chicken. you don't just sit there and die, you would start banging around on shit trying to dislodge the thing.
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    Who doesn't have bruising at that age too.

    I think you would have a ton of injuries if someone was trying to force a big chuck of chicken down your throat. I don't feel good about his conviction. I hope his daughters are happy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    i feel pretty sure i'd have bruises on my body and possibly scratches on my face if i was chocking on a piece of chicken. you don't just sit there and die, you would start banging around on shit trying to dislodge the thing.
    Yep. If you've ever choked its a horrifying feeling. You lose all sense of being calm and normal goes right out the door.

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    It's very possible that he choked her and shoved a chicken bone down her throat to play it off.

    If the bruising was around her neck, I doubt she was flailing about and just so happened to bruise a choke mark around her neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    It's very possible that he choked her and shoved a chicken bone down her throat to play it off.

    If the bruising was around her neck, I doubt she was flailing about and just so happened to bruise a choke mark around her neck.
    But even so. How is it proving that he did it? No DNA evidence etc. If Casey Anthony can get off and it's explained so reasonable doubt, I'm having a hard time getting how he got convicted on so little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    But even so. How is it proving that he did it? No DNA evidence etc. If Casey Anthony can get off and it's explained so reasonable doubt, I'm having a hard time getting how he got convicted on so little.
    I think the issue with Casey had to do with the stupid jury.

    This case kind of reminds me of the Drew Peterson case. The ME had originally ruled Kathleen Savio's COD as accidental, but in light of Stacey's disappearance and her confession to a priest, Kathleen's body was exhumed. They said she was in pretty good shape considering she was buried for 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    But even so. How is it proving that he did it? No DNA evidence etc. If Casey Anthony can get off and it's explained so reasonable doubt, I'm having a hard time getting how he got convicted on so little.
    I'm not sure where you're reading that there was no DNA evidence. This was a re-opened case, it's possible there was DNA evidence initially that couldn't be supported through technique. According to one of the links here:

    “This is a classic case of domestic violence,” Preston told the jury.
    Though the couple had been married for 32 years, after years of unhappiness, Mickey Faville was planning to leave her husband once and for all. She had recently reconnected with an old high school sweetheart, Chris Crowley, and was looking to move out of their Montgomery County house.
    On the night Mickey Faville died, she told her husband that she would be leaving him immediately.
    “You have to make her stay. You don’t know what I’ll do,” Ward Faville pleaded with his daughter, Wynne Packard, according to Preston.
    According to Packard’s testimony, her father had been “extremely controlling and demanding” throughout her parents’ marriage.
    “It was nearly impossible to speak with her on the phone,” Packard said. She testified that her mother would have to “hide on the floor and whisper” her phone conversations and that Ward Faville would get upset if he found her on the phone.
    After their mother’s death, the family got into several heated arguments over whether to cremate or bury her body, Packard testified. Ward Faville adamantly wanted his wife’s body buried, but family members insisted that their mother would have wanted to be cremated.
    On March 13, investigators spoke on the phone with Ward Faville and asked him to come to the office and talk about the ongoing investigation.
    “He immediately changed his mind and agreed to have the body cremated,
    ” Packard said.
    Both medical examiners’ reports show that Faville had significant bruising to her arms, pelvic area, head, face and chest.


    Sorry, but I'm not that eager to feel bad for this guy, or think his daughters are wrong and that he's just misunderstood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    I'm not sure where you're reading that there was no DNA evidence. This was a re-opened case, it's possible there was DNA evidence initially that couldn't be supported through technique. According to one of the links here:









    Sorry, but I'm not that eager to feel bad for this guy, or think his daughters are wrong and that he's just misunderstood.
    I never said I necessarily felt bad for the guy. Just that it didn't seem to me to be enough evidence for a conviction. An ME comes out after 12 years and says "Ah, yeah. About that chicken. I was wrong. She was murdered. My bad". I'm also not saying for sure that he didn't do it, I'm saying that it doesn't sit well with me how he was convicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I never said I necessarily felt bad for the guy. Just that it didn't seem to me to be enough evidence for a conviction. An ME comes out after 12 years and says "Ah, yeah. About that chicken. I was wrong. She was murdered. My bad". I'm also not saying for sure that he didn't do it, I'm saying that it doesn't sit well with me how he was convicted.
    Well fwiw I doubt that's how it played out.

    Probably some cop who'd always suspected something was hinky convinced the DA to look at it again and they badgered the ME "isn't it possible that you were mistaken?" "You are certain this was an accident?" until he caved and changed his testimony.


    *in fact I'm sure this is the way it happened. I've seen this exact storyline on TV like a million times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I never said I necessarily felt bad for the guy. Just that it didn't seem to me to be enough evidence for a conviction. An ME comes out after 12 years and says "Ah, yeah. About that chicken. I was wrong. She was murdered. My bad". I'm also not saying for sure that he didn't do it, I'm saying that it doesn't sit well with me how he was convicted.
    I was speaking rhetorically. UN said she felt for the guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    I'm not sure where you're reading that there was no DNA evidence. This was a re-opened case, it's possible there was DNA evidence initially that couldn't be supported through technique. According to one of the links here:









    Sorry, but I'm not that eager to feel bad for this guy, or think his daughters are wrong and that he's just misunderstood.
    Sounds like he was a bit controlling.

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