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    Beauty queen Tara Grinstead missing from Ocilla, GA since 10/22/05

    I'm surprised we don't have a thread on her already.

    They are draining a pond to search for her.

    http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/cri...case/23184781/



    Investigators drained a pond in Ben Hill County to search for evidence in the 2005 disappearance of Tara Grinstead.

    That's according to J.T. Ricketson, special agent in charge of the GBI's Perry office.

    He said they found some items that could be evidence in the case.

    "But I'm very disappointed," said Ricketson. "I would have liked to find a lot more."

    He also scoffed at rumors that spread around the towns of Ocilla and Fitzgerald due to the massive search scene: "We have not found a body. We have not found multiple bodies."

    Grinstead, an Ocilla school teacher, disappeared in October 2005. Her body was never found and no one has been charged in the case."

    Ricketson gave this account of the search:

    He said about a week ago, a tipster contacted the GBI with what he called "fairly credible information" in the case.

    The tip led investigators to some property in Fitzgerald, in Ben Hill County.

    That's just a few miles from Grinstead's former home in Ocilla, in Irwin County.

    Investigators developed enough information to request a search warrant, which was approved by a Superior Court judge Monday.

    With the help of the state Department of Natural Resources, the state patrol, Ben Hill sheriff and other agencies, they search the small pond there using a mini-submersible and a dive team.

    The search continued to late Monday night and resumed early Tuesday.

    After finding some items in the pond, the GBI requested a second search warrant to drain the pond.

    The search wrapped up late Tuesday afternoon.

    Ricketson would not describe the tips or the evidence that was found.

    He said the owner of the property, off Satilla Street, near Fitzgerald, has no known connection to Grinstead.

    Ricketson says the GBI will analyze the evidence before deciding how to proceed further.

    "It's an old case, but it's not a cold case," he said.

    Grinstead was 31 years old, a high school teacher, and local beauty queen.

    In 2011, the Irwin County sheriff said he got a tip telling him to search near a bridge on Reedy Creek.

    He says a dive team and deputies searched for more than four hours and found nothing.

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    Wow, I am surprised we don't have a thread too. It may have been lost in the great crash.

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    Hmmmmm. After so much time, I'm not sure what finding her might even accomplish. Can you even get any forensics from bones drifting in the bottom of a pond for so long? Sure, there's closure for the family, but, God. This is all just so horrific.


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    did you make her into a wallet Bill? cuz if you did I'm off team Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBeWithMe View Post
    Hmmmmm. After so much time, I'm not sure what finding her might even accomplish. Can you even get any forensics from bones drifting in the bottom of a pond for so long? Sure, there's closure for the family, but, God. This is all just so horrific.
    You could possibly tell COD (gun shot, knife wound on bones), confirm that she actually is dead, tell something from where she is found (one of the suspects may have ties to where she is found), etc. I would hope that if I go missing they don't just stop looking for me because I might just be bones at that point.

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    But if she's been under water for ten years, what could be left? They'll be lucky to find bits, no?


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    did you make her into a wallet Bill? cuz if you did I'm off team Bill.

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    But she wasn't in the pond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBeWithMe View Post
    But if she's been under water for ten years, what could be left? They'll be lucky to find bits, no?
    I don't know, I've seen some amazing cases where they can tell a lot from just a small amount of evidence. I'm curious, do you think they should set a time limit and just stop looking for someone after that point? I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm seriously confused and wondering if I am missing something?

    One of my ex co-worker's had a daughter that was found in a landfill after several years. They never gave up on looking for her, and they also probably didn't find much left when they did find her after all that time. They nailed the bastard that killed her though. They had no clue who it was until they found her. It was a serial killer and they hadn't tied her to him at all until right at the end where they found her after several years.

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    Oh, no. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just curious as to what kind of evidence they might hope to find as I was naturally - wrong or right - assuming there would be next to nothing left.

    That pond is likely full of bones. Animal or otherwise.

    I just feel heartsick for the family thinking about them sitting around waiting, possibly, for a chip or two.

    It's just all so depressing.


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    did you make her into a wallet Bill? cuz if you did I'm off team Bill.

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    If hypothetically, she was in the pond, she would probably be encased in something heavy to ensure that she hadn't floated to the top in all these years. If it was a barrel, cement block etc, her remains may be somewhat preserved.

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    I hadn't thought about that.



    Poor girl.


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    did you make her into a wallet Bill? cuz if you did I'm off team Bill.

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    Thanks for posting this thread, rbw. I'm glad this case is still being actively investigated.

    Thought I'd add a little background info.



    http://www.investigationdiscovery.co...ara-grinstead/

    Tara Grinstead, a 30-year-old teacher and former beauty queen, disappears without a trace on October 24, 2005. Although there is no crime scene at her home, investigators find a latex glove lying in the front yard, indicating foul play.

    Searching for clues, investigators delve into Tara's personal life and discover a complex series of relationships with men. They learn that she had a stormy relationship with her ex-boyfriend, a former police officer and Army Ranger. They also discover that, months earlier, one of Tara's former high school students tried to force his way into her house. On top of that, a business card left on Tara's front door belongs to a married police officer from a nearby town.

    Investigators recover male DNA from the glove left in her yard, as well as a partial fingerprint. But they collect DNA samples from every male Tara might have had any contact with, and find no match for the DNA on the glove.

    Just as police are running out of directions to turn, a man calling himself the "Catchmekiller" posts an anonymous video online, claiming to have killed 16 people, including Tara Grinstead. Officials raid his home, but the video confession turns out to be nothing but a bizarre hoax.

    Today, five years later, Tara Grinstead's disappearance still hinges on finding a DNA match to the latex glove found outside her home. Her case is the largest active investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.



    Here's a pretty good little video:








    The Crime Library has some really good info: http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal...instead/1.html (I love the Crime Library. I don't know why nothing at all has been posted there since August.)


    I can't find the video, but I found the transcript for an interview Greta Van Susteren did with Tara's ex-boyfriend: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/11...ara-grinstead/
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    I will out think the fucking pants off of you and you would thank me for helping you out of them.

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    There is a lot of threads in this case, but I kind of lean towards the ex-boyfriend doing something to her. His alibi of doing a ride along that night isn't really an alibi if he got his cop friend to help (which is what I suspect). I've often wondered if the cop friend planted the glove as a red herring? I'm not 100% sold on the boyfriend as the suspect, but he gets my interest more than anyone else at this point.

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    http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-new...PzvpSvwpI3hwM/

    News conference at 3pm today. Rumor has it someone has been arrested.


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    did you make her into a wallet Bill? cuz if you did I'm off team Bill.

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    They have arrested a Ryan Alexander duke and charged him with her murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBeWithMe View Post
    http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-new...PzvpSvwpI3hwM/

    News conference at 3pm today. Rumor has it someone has been arrested.
    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    They have arrested a Ryan Alexander duke and charged him with her murder.

    WHAT?! STFU! I have to go research this! I never thought they would get anywhere with this case. Thanks for the heads up guys.

    Edited to add, this is what I was curious about, how they got to this point and if he had ever been in suspect before.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/majo...cher/496761014

    The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Thursday that someone walked into the sheriff's office a few days ago with information that led to several new interviews and an arrest.

    "Through these interviews, enough probable cause was discovered so we could swear out an arrest warrant charging Ryan Alexander Duke with the murder or Tara Grinstead," said GBI Special Agent in Charge J.T. Richardson. "I can say that this gentleman never came up on our radar through the investigation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    WHAT?! STFU! I have to go research this! I never thought they would get anywhere with this case. Thanks for the heads up guys.

    Edited to add, this is what I was curious about, how they got to this point and if he had ever been in suspect before.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/majo...cher/496761014
    Wow- there really is hope for these cold cases. Rest in peace, Tara and I hope the family finds some solace and justice, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wondery View Post
    Wow- there really is hope for these cold cases. Rest in peace, Tara and I hope the family finds some solace and justice, of course.
    Yeah, Jacob Wetterling last year and now this one-both are cases I thought would never be solved. There are so many old cases out there. I hope advanced CSI techniques and time and guilty consciences (or people getting mad at others and talking) play in these cases' favor, and they can get more of them solved.

    I think Tara's family realized she was probably dead, but I know this had to be a blow to them in a way. I hope they can get the closure they so desperately deserve!

    Oh, and one of the stories I read said that he was a student at the school she taught at. He graduated 3 years before she was killed.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/majo...cher/496761014

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    Sorry to double post. It looks like this guy did a podcast on the case last year, and he says he received new tips every week after he did it. I wonder if this caused someone to come out of the woodwork with the info? It will be an interesting refresh on the case to listen to it now that they have found this guy.

    http://www.upandvanished.com/

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    I definitely had this in the never to be solved basket, along with Maura Murray. There were a ton of people who were under suspicion in this case, I bet they are living it up today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    I definitely had this in the never to be solved basket, along with Maura Murray. There were a ton of people who were under suspicion in this case, I bet they are living it up today.
    I was thinking that too. I was one of the people convinced that her ex had killed her. Now I feel a little bad about that. He was a douche though.

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    Wow. It was surprising to see her name on an updated thread, as I never thought there would ever be any resolve.

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    She was killed while he was robbing her house

    http://www.macon.com/news/local/crim...134598734.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    She was killed while he was robbing her house

    http://www.macon.com/news/local/crim...134598734.html
    Wow. Crazy!
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    A robbery? That was the motive?

    Maybe just maybe this guy will give info about why he took her keys and purse but not her phone. Those are clues that leaves us all wondering in so many cases. Not that he can speak for everyone, I'm just curious for some insight, you know?

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