You're right, it may not have been a gofundme, that is just what I first thought.
I have been going through so much with this damn kid, been super stressed out this last week. In a matter of a few days he lost his job, his car (which he ditched on the side of the road after it broke down - yeah, just said fuck this car and left it) went to Vegas with supposed gang members, been doing coke and Xanax.....ugh. My husband changed the locks and everything - can't be trusted not to steal from us.
He legit was doing good a month ago - working a good job every day, had bought it first car on his own - shit has gone downhill fast. I am hearing these around that worry me so much - I have just been in shock, this is not the same kid I know.
Sorry for the rant...
Me too. But I just found out he showed up at home trying to get in the house. My husband told him he could if he followed the rules and was there when we got home from work. His response? "I can't promise that." So my husband called the cops, but by the time they showed up he was gone. So who knows where he is.
I think I just got 10 more gray hairs in the last half hour
I have made a post letting everyone know on my fb how horrible this site is. You will not last long posting such gore and horror on real people's lives!!!
I get not wanting to hand that much money to an addict because going on a binge could very easily kill him, but it's not like this is an inheritance. This couple actively raised $$ with full knowledge of his situation. They should've made the conditions clear to donors & they shre as shit shouldn't be profiting from the $$ even if it is unsafe to release it to him.
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...taboola-recirc
A homeless man whose act of generosity gained worldwide attention last year says that despite the hundreds of thousands of dollars raised on his behalf, he is panhandling again and using drugs because he has no access to the funds.
Kate McClure of New Jersey had no cash on her when her car ran out of gas in Philadelphia last November, and Johnny Bobbitt came to her aid, giving the stranded motorist his last $20.
Homeless Good Samaritan to Get House, Truck, Trust Fund
McClure and her boyfriend Mark D'Amico started a GoFundMe campaign in return, promising that Bobbitt would have a home.
But Bobbitt told Philly.com he can't use the $200,000 left out of the $400,000 that donors raised on GoFundMe, and he no longer has the camper or car that had been purchased for him with some of the funds.
NJ Woman Raises $315K for Homeless Man After Selfless Act
"What [Bobbitt] would like is to obtain the money that has been raised for him," Bobbitt's attorney Jacqueline Promislo told NBC News. "Over 14,000 people gave him money to help him get off the streets and give him a safe place to live."
She said that Bobbitt estimated he used about $75,000 to buy an SUV and a camper, in which he lived in until June, but that he no longer has access to the remaining funds.
McClure says the couple did all they could to help Bobbitt.
In an interview with the Inquirer last week, D'Amico said he controls the money and will start dispensing it when Bobbitt gets a job and stops using drugs.
"Giving him all that money, it's never going to happen. I'll burn it in front of him," he said, adding that giving an "addict" the money would be like "giving him a loaded gun."
Bobbitt questions the couple's motives and fears they may have squandered the money, pointing to vacations the two have apparently taken and to McClure driving what appears to be a new BMW.
"I think it might have been good intentions in the beginning, but with that amount of money, I think it became greed," Bobbitt said.
D'Amico acknowledged to the Inquirer spending $500 from the GoFundMe money while gambling at a casino but said he repaid it with his winnings.
GoFundMe is investigating whether the money was mismanaged, and said it will work to ensure Bobbitt "receives the help he deserves and that the donors' intentions are honored."
I think this is messed up! You'll burn the money in front of him before you would ever have it over if he's high?! Fuck you, dick-greed. The money was donated to BOBBITT, not you. And no one has the right to tell a recipient of charity what they can or can not do with the money. It's no longer charity if there are stipulations involved.
It's like when people say they won't give pan handlers cash because they will just spend it on booze or whatever. Fine, then keep your money and shut up about it. OR pass someone less fortunate than you a buck and let them escape their reality in the bottem of a can of steel reserve if they want. You ain't nobody's daddy.
I hate people.
Funny you should bring this up, because I was just pondering this yesterday after passing a panhandler in what has become a popular begging spot in the Walmart shopping center near my house.
I don't carry much cash, but if I have it, I've always given a few bucks to panhandlers. Recently, I've become more hesitant because of the severe heroin problem here. I live in the "Heroin Triangle" of metro Atlanta ... "Intervention" recently dedicated a whole season to this area.
Last winter, there was a guy washing windshields at my Kroger. (Windshield-washer panhandlers are very unusual where I live in the burbs.) It was freezing cold, getting dark, and I felt bad for the guy, so I handed him a few bucks as I left the parking lot. When I got a good look at him, I realized how terribly sick and zombie-like he looked and started thinking he was probably dope sick. All the way home and for hours afterwards, I wondered if I had just contributed to the guy getting a hit of heroin laced with fentanyl or something that might kill him. That happens a lot around here.
I'm not sure what my point is ... just that I used to not worry about what panhandlers spent money on, but now I do, because I could literally be helping kill them.
I kinda have mixed feelings about the guy from the article.
Damn good point about contributing to someone's death by giving an addict money. I think in the cases of loved ones, it's easy to not enable. Tough love and all that. When it involves strangers maybe you can pretend they will spend it on muffins. I'd love to know what everyone thinks.
I live in Dayton, another Heroin/Fentanyl hotspot, and I know we have tons of resources available for addicts. Clinics offer the Suboxone treatment on every corner it seems like and the public libraries offer Project Dawn classes to train people how to administer Narcan in case of an overdose in which you take a few doses home with you. I think that is very telling of the times when emergency crews need the help from the general public to revive people. Even knowing all this (coupled with the fact that too many people I know are addicted), I still donate money. Probably due to guilt more than altruism, I suppose because I still have life in my eyes and limbs and these folks do not. They could easily be me. Fuck it, here's a dollar.
In this case I feel like it's clear the money belongs to Bobbitt. I didn't read the gfm but unless they said they were gonna withhold the money to ensure it is spent responsibly, then the donated monies belong to Bobbitt. I believe what they are doing constitutes fraud? At the very least they are just straight up greedy shit bags.
Sarcastic. Skeptic Tank. Self-deprecating.
There's vid of their interview here :
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...2efb051cf95c9c
A HOMELESS man whose act of kindness saw him gifted $545,000 is suing the couple who set up the fund for him, saying they have spent more than half of the money on themselves.
News Corp Australia NetworkAUGUST 30, 20188:20AM
Homeless man receives life changing donations
THE homeless veteran who helped a stranded motorist has filed a lawsuit against the woman and her boyfriend to stop them from spending what remains from a $US400,000 ($A545,000) GoFundMe campaign they created for him.
Johnny Bobbitt, who spent his last $US20 to help Kate McClure when she ran out of gas in a rough neighbourhood in Philadelphia last Thanksgiving, claims she and Mark D?Amico used the money for themselves, Philly.com reported.
Homeless man Johnny Bobbitt Jr gave Kate McClure his last $20 when her car ran out of petrol. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied
Ms McClure, 28, and Mr D?Amico, 39, both of New Jersey, have claimed they?ve spent half the funds on housing and other expenses for Mr Bobbitt, who has been living under a bridge, saying they were holding the rest until he?s off drugs.
An injunction application filed on Tuesday in Superior Court in Mount Holly claims the couple mismanaged the funds and committed fraud and conspiracy.
Kate McClure and boyfriend Mark D'Amico. Picture: FacebookSource:Supplied
The lawsuit alleges they deposited ?substantial portions of the money raised? into personal accounts and did not allow Bobbitt to access them to get off the streets.
?The defendants have expended more than half of the monies raised, and they continue to deprive (Bobbitt) access to the funds that were raised for him,? according to the suit filed by his lawyers Cozen O?Connor in Philadelphia, according to NJ.com.
Johnny Bobbitt Jr., left, Kate McClure, right, and McClure's boyfriend Mark D'Amico. Picture: APSource:AP
The New York Post reports that Christopher C. Fallon, one of Bobbitt?s lawyers, said the suit was filed after D?Amico ignored several requests for a full accounting of the GoFundMe funds raised.
?He?s really left us with no choice but to go forward,? Mr Fallon said, Philly.com reported.
They ?conspired to utilise (Bobbitt?s) money to enjoy a lifestyle that they could not afford. Defendants admitted to commingling the funds raised for (Bobbitt) in their own personal accounts and have denied (Bobbitt) access to the account,? according to the court documents.
Johnny Bobbitt Jr was an emergency technician. Picture: TwitterSource:Supplied
The filing alleges that D?Amico and McClure have considered the ?GoFundMe account as their personal piggy bank.?
The couple appeared on Megyn Kelly Today on Monday and denied allegations they pocketed a large portion of the funds meant to get Bobbitt back on his feet.
They said they were protecting the interests of Bobbitt and the more than 14,000 donors by depositing the money into their own accounts to prevent him from doing drugs after he admitted to doing so in an article on Philly.com.
Bobbitt once blew through $US25,000 cash in under two weeks, the couple claimed to Philly.com.
?Giving him all that money, it?s never going to happen. I?ll burn it in front of him,? D?Amico recently told the paper.
Johnny Bobbitt Jr, the homeless veteran who gave $20 for gas for Kate McClure, is back on the streets. Picture: APSource:AP
The couple now claim they are receiving death threats.
?It?s so hard to deal with when we know we did a good thing,? McClure said, tearing up, on the show.
?I would do it all over again. I would do it all over again for him.?
Messages left for McClure and D?Amico by Philly.com seeking comment on the lawsuit were not immediately returned.
So they're claiming they spent half that money on his accommodation & expenses?
They only got it about 9 mths ago & for at least part of the time he's been living under a fucking bridge?!
Same.
There's some people who could use the help, but a lot of panhandlers are just doing it now because they know they'll make a lot of money. A few years ago a company put up a sign behind one around here stating that he turned down a good job from them and even told them it was because he would make even more if he kept doing it. Those people put the people who really need it in a bad light.
We have pan handlers on every corner in Dayton. Not a single one looks like they are doing well. I think assuming people enjoy it and are banking is sketchy thinking. I sincerely doubt that a lot of pan handlers are doing it by choice. Being homeless and begging for change isn't a decision someone makes over night. So thinking that if you offer them a job and they don't accept means they somehow are enjoying their lifestyle is dumb. Do people really think a person that has been living on the streets for years, most likely is addicted to drugs, a good chance of untreated mental illness, and no access to a shower, clean clothes, etc. can simply transition into regular employment?
I think it's weird that a company would put up a sign like that, IF that scenario were true, what do they have to gain by putting up a sign basically calling someone a shitty person? It's petty and I would boycott that business.
There is a guy who always sits on the corner with a sign that reads "veteran, homeless, anything helps, god bless" near my house and one day a sign appeared in a neighbors yard that read "DO NOT GIVE THAT MAN MONEY HE IS LYING ABOUT BEING A VETERAN!" The dude is always in a wheelchair and has NO LEGS, who gives a fuck if he is a liar? Either give him money or don't, that's all you have to do. The sign posting shit is fucked. Get over yourselves.
The attitude that people have of "I don't give homeless people money because they should just get jobs like me" is fucking gross. I'm sure I sound like I'm being a dick to you, but I assure I am not. I am just passionate about this particular topic.
And once again, if you make a GFM and say "all monies raised will go to this homeless guy!" and then keep the money? Fuck you, there is no reason not to do what you said you were going to do. No matter how he is going to spend the money. People shit on those weaker and less fortunate than them. Let's pick on the homeless, the poor, the unfortunate, and ignore these jack-hole bajillionaires spending our money to make more money for themselves. AKA elected government officials.
Sarcastic. Skeptic Tank. Self-deprecating.
nothing this guy spent money on is misusing the funds... it's his freaking money. i hope this couple gets busted big time for spending the money on themselves. they bought him an RV, a car and gave him 25,000 and there is only 150,000 left? it was around .5 million. there is like 250,000 unaccounted for.
WTF, I wasn't keeping up to date with this, the way they worded the earlier articles, they made it sound like the guy sold the camper for drugs.
But now we learn that when they purchased it for him they insisted it be placed it on property owned by their relatives & then they evicted him & kept it??!!
This also means the rent/living expenses they were claiming was all being funnelled back to them & their family too.
Fuck these people SO HARD.
Edit : also, I'm awaiting news of a second GoFundMe to replace the stolen funds
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