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    The Good, The Bad, The GoFundMe, YouCaring & other mass funding sites

    What are your thoughts on these types of sites?

    Is it typical to expect to start a mass funding plea for any untimely death or issue?

    It just seems to be like internet kudzu... it is everywhere I look.
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    I don't get it. There is a site for every single 'cause'. What did people do before?

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    i'm very wary of all the stories on these sites. also, i can't believe so many people are willing to toss money at anyone with a sad story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    I don't get it. There is a site for every single 'cause'. What did people do before?
    THAT's what I want to know!! I have known people who died before their time, tragic circumstances, etc. The church or community phone tree usually went to work and got food, meals for the family and someone would infrequently have a raffle or bake sale or silent auction to benefit folks.

    I think I am a considerate and fairly generous person but every day I feel more and more and more like no one is doing for themselves. If I had to bury my child, I would like to think I could get it done without the assistance of a mass funding plea.

    I just think I am FundBlind ™ right now.
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    someone mentioned that they saw a dude with a sign asking for donations for someone's funeral the other day and likened it to those sites... he was like - wha??? where's the carwash? i gotta get something for my money
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    In essence I don't mind these sites for people who really need the help, whether paying for disease treatment, paying for a burial, etc. It's definitely easier than traditional fundraising. But the problem is you have no way of knowing if these people are who they say they are, have the problem they claim they have, hell they could even be some rich asshole who'd rather spend our dime than his own to bury his brother. What's even more disturbing is when you look through and find people have donated to someone who simply wants a new wardrobe because they lost weight and then see a big ole' $0 for someone trying to fund their chemo.

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    I'm not that hot on these sites. Obviously there's a few one-off situations where I can see it being the best resort (I think a member here had one bc she had cancer and several children and legit needed help...)

    But the way it's branched out into this "Fund me for anything I want or ask for" spiral and all that does is open doors to leeches and frauds. Like, the page for the pizza guy who got stiffed $7, now has a $35k go-fund-me that he actually had to put the breaks on. That's fucking ridiculous. I know this is a free country, but fuck man, there are so many other causes that need that money that people are willing to piss away.

    It is also going down the road of being standard practice for people needing money for funerals.

    I mean, if we're really going to look at these sites... Are these donations tax deductible? Who's to say someone won't donate to their own cause to take a phatty deduction?
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    It's become the norm. I'm not sure why unless folks have unforeseen medical costs or didn't have life insurance. It used to be that you donated to a charity in the person's name. Not send money to the family.

    I have a friend who's Son has been having medical problems and she started one. Except she had just bought a brand new car, took a trip to Ireland and when bringing him in posted something on FB about how she found out the hospital she wanted a procedure done at wasn't covered by her insurance. "I'll have to figure it out later". By what? Asking everyone else for money when you had the means to avoid the debt?

    I'm very wary of the sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    It's become the norm. I'm not sure why unless folks have unforeseen medical costs or didn't have life insurance. It used to be that you donated to a charity in the person's name. Not send money to the family.

    I have a friend who's Son has been having medical problems and she started one. Except she had just bought a brand new car, took a trip to Ireland and when bringing him in posted something on FB about how she found out the hospital she wanted a procedure done at wasn't covered by her insurance. "I'll have to figure it out later". By what? Asking everyone else for money when you had the means to avoid the debt?

    I'm very wary of the sites.
    Exactly this. I'm sure plenty of families have the money, they just don't want to spend it on that and use the pity route instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    I'm not that hot on these sites. Obviously there's a few one-off situations where I can see it being the best resort (I think a member here had one bc she had cancer and several children and legit needed help...)

    But the way it's branched out into this "Fund me for anything I want or ask for" spiral and all that does is open doors to leeches and frauds. Like, the page for the pizza guy who got stiffed $7, now has a $35k go-fund-me that he actually had to put the breaks on. That's fucking ridiculous. I know this is a free country, but fuck man, there are so many other causes that need that money that people are willing to piss away.

    It is also going down the road of being standard practice for people needing money for funerals.

    I mean, if we're really going to look at these sites... Are these donations tax deductible? Who's to say someone won't donate to their own cause to take a phatty deduction?
    No, they are not deductible unless these people have previously set themselves up as a charity. Donations to legal charities that have all the right paperwork are legally deductible. If you donate 500 bucks to help your neighbor out because they lost their leg, or donate to a gofund me individual that needs help burying their child it is not legally deductible.

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    Can we throw in the fundme's for a new kitchen or trip to Bali et al generally raise more money than the kid with cancer? Where's Bowie?


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    I've never given any money to those sites. Even if I needed money badly I would never ask strangers for it. I have too much pride.
    Those commercials with the starving kids and animals that are suffering really bother me. I don't know about the starving kids, but I don't believe the money is necessarily going to the animals.

    I don't know if you guys know about the animalrescuesite.com can click daily to give to causes. Same with freekibble.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    No, they are not deductible unless these people have previously set themselves up as a charity. Donations to legal charities that have all the right paperwork are legally deductible. If you donate 500 bucks to help your neighbor out because they lost their leg, or donate to a gofund me individual that needs help burying their child it is not legally deductible.
    That mostly makes sense.

    So what happens to the people who receive the money? I'm almost 99% sure they have to claim it on their taxes as income, but do they?

    The IRS does not allow people to just get free money. When my company tries to give me a bonus, and they take like 35% of it.
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    Oh god the gofundme for the new bathroom.

    I will say this: a lot of the gofundme's that seem to be of a more personal nature (help me move, honeymoon) are not intended to be for the public. They're just using the site to give their friends and family a place to donate, but the site doesn't offer privacy options to limit who can see what. Smart people will explain this or add a disclaimer to their gofundme, slightly dumber ones will just word it in a way that it is obvious that they mean that.

    There's also shit like this:
    http://www.gofundme.com/AmericaAgain

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    There's also shit like this:
    http://www.gofundme.com/AmericaAgain
    Victor Davis seems to have a lot of spare cash on hand in this weary America we live in.

    Where does money like this go? Just into the bank account of the person who made it? This page was started like a year ago and someone commented 10months ago asking what the progress was and there was no response.
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    I think it goes to the 'I'm a fucking lunatic' fund.

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    Anyway here is an example of something that is obviously intended for family and friends:
    http://www.gofundme.com/fb5w5s

    So it's not fair to hate on these people, they're just using the site to set up gifting situation for their wedding.

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    I'm not hating on people using the site for weddings because I don't think their intention is to rip anyone off, and the money would be used for it's intended purpose.

    I do think it's tacky as hell, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    I'm not hating on people using the site for weddings because I don't think their intention is to rip anyone off, and the money would be used for it's intended purpose.

    I do think it's tacky as hell, though.
    ?? it's not tacky, there's an entire section on that site specifically for weddings. They're not asking the public to donate, they're asking wedding guests, it just happens to be a site where the wedding stuff can be viewed by the public.

    My fiance and I will be using one of those honeymoon sites to solicit money for our honeymoon. Some people just don't know about them. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying 'look, I don't need towels or a blender, save your money and contribute to something that i actually meaningful.' If you look at the wording of the one I just posted above, they are specifically addressing friends and family, potential wedding guests, not outsiders.

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    I completely understand that there are people who use it for their wedding and intend for it to only be for family and friends.

    I think it's tacky to use go-fund-me for this kind of thing and I personally would not opt to do it. My opinion.

    It was always my culture/understanding that the monetary gifts people typically bring TO the wedding are for wedding costs/honeymoon. I've also known people to skip the "wedding shower" and instead have a casino themed party where people buy a sack of "chips" and the money goes towards the honeymoon.

    I just think there are like... at least 5 other ways to do that without setting up a go fund me. I'm not trying to bash you, it's just how I feel about it. Even when people go to showers and give stupid towels, they get to attend a little party or brunch in return. A website just basically gives a middle finger to the return gesture.
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    Before the interwebz, there were car washes and a memorial shirt people made that you could buy to raise money. Now people are asking for money just because they woke up and it happened to be Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    I completely understand that there are people who use it for their wedding and intend for it to only be for family and friends.

    I think it's tacky to use go-fund-me for this kind of thing and I personally would not opt to do it. My opinion.

    It was always my culture/understanding that the monetary gifts people typically bring TO the wedding are for wedding costs/honeymoon. I've also known people to skip the "wedding shower" and instead have a casino themed party where people buy a sack of "chips" and the money goes towards the honeymoon.

    I just think there are like... at least 5 other ways to do that without setting up a go fund me. I'm not trying to bash you, it's just how I feel about it. Even when people go to showers and give stupid towels, they get to attend a little party or brunch in return. A website just basically gives a middle finger to the return gesture.
    I couldn't disagree more at all. My friends and family, especially my family who live in Europe, are probably not going to attend my wedding but would like to present a gift, and this is away for them to not feel tacky about it by contributing online. It's no different to me than a registry. People who aren't attending weddings still give gifts. And they aren't doing it because they're going to 'get' something. If you attend a wedding for the swag or whatever, that's pretty classless. And a lot of people don't want to give cash on hand and feel more comfortable doing something online.

    So it is not my 'culture' at all to have people bring cash to a wedding and not a single person I know has had a wedding shower or any of that selfish 'how many gifts can we get from people' garbage, and no, I see nothing wrong with saying 'in lieu of gifts, here is a fund that is collecting all the money in one place so we can access it.' Most people I know leave on their honeymoon within a day or two of the wedding and don't have time to sit around and make sure checks clear. Paypal is a way easier method.

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    Additionally it is likely that people use GoFundMe for that purpose because they take the least off the top as their own earnings. Which is a whole 'notha shady aspect of those websites, like who the fuck is the asshole profiting off his site intended to raise money for a child's cancer treatments and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    That mostly makes sense.

    So what happens to the people who receive the money? I'm almost 99% sure they have to claim it on their taxes as income, but do they?

    The IRS does not allow people to just get free money. When my company tries to give me a bonus, and they take like 35% of it.

    They are totally required to claim it as income. Do most people do it? Probably not. However I am going to bet that the IRS is mining these sites since they are a great compilation of income that people probably exclude from income and it is all easily traceable.

    Yep, bonuses, contest winnings, money from Ebay selling, etc....techinically it's all taxable income in the IRS' eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    They are totally required to claim it as income. Do most people do it? Probably not. However I am going to bet that the IRS is mining these sites since they are a great compilation of income that people probably exclude from income and it is all easily traceable.

    Yep, bonuses, contest winnings, money from Ebay selling, etc....techinically it's all taxable income in the IRS' eyes.
    Sit back and wait for someone who didn't claim their donations and was targeted by the IRS, to try to sue GoFundMe for not providing some sort of disclaimer or tax statement at the end of the year.

    Bowie - I never suggested my culture was yours. I don't personally like wedding showers and think they're antiquated, but I see an event around wedding-donation as more of a gracious gesture, than "swag". I have family all over, but I don't think there would be so many that wouldn't attend my wedding that I'd need a webpage. Maybe it's just me being a crotchety old woman and not jiving with new trends - because I have next to no trust in making online transactions. I'd send a card. It's just my feelings and opinion about it, and we disagree. NBD. If me saying it was tacky offended you, sorry.
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