We have a company in town http://www.isishospitalityllc.com/ It's odd to see their courtesy vans now.Originally Posted by animosity
I suspect they'd like everyone to settle on any name other than ISIS. But anyway, to answer your question...http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-terror-group/
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-camera.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...overed-2461579
They're a couple of examples I was talking about in my previous post, although Blighted Star you did already mention they did air searches @ night (sorry I missed that last time).
So there's a lot of different theories, it will be interesting to know the real story, if we ever get to hear it.
- Wealthy/famous family. lt's been speculated for example [this is pure speculation] that the family is of the winemaking family with the same name. Kidnap and ransom, with threats of harm to William/sister/relatives if there's heaps of publicity
- The family is in witness protection/parent/s are cops, position of power etc
- William is fostered and his bio parents organised to have him kidnapped - the things like they did not have a photo of him initially available and it was the first visit at the grandmother's give this one a bit of weight, then again it also kinda fits the second theory.
- Opportunistic local snatch. But given the police searched nearby houses with nothing found and no scent, surely he couldn't have been walked to somewhere nearby.
- He really did run into the forest. I believe it's a possibility but probably not likely with the other info.
There's been a variety of ?back stories` by people who ?supposedly` know the family but these are all conflicting and it's hard to work out what to believe so I won't mention them.
I think it was in here about the link to the Colt family and info about them, anyway it got me interested given the Colt family matriarch tried kidnapping some of the kids (boys) and so I did a check and short of William being 'Tammy's' child or born to one of the children (the older ones would have *just* been at childbearing age 3 years ago), it doesn't seem likely William had a connection to them along with the info this family lived in Sydney. Tammy last resided in Vic, and from what I could gather the kids were kept in rural areas [I don't believe I am talking out of line on that equally delicate case because that info is available in the official court document].
One interesting thing I found only a couple of days ago was this site http://www.lukesarmy.com/
Not sure if experienced MDSers are across this already but I found this REALLY interesting. I was aware of some sort of a mother-bagging site by dads who had been stooged in divorce proceedings but this is another ballgame. These people are not far off talking about kidnapping their kids back from state care - well that's how I interpreted it. Wow, I don't know how much to believe on it... Why would child services take kids from seemingly unharmful environments when they have plenty of legitimate cases to follow up... the mind boggles.
If this story can't be publicized 'just' because he has lost while in state care and DoCS has barred stories so it or the government doesn't cop bad press, then heads should roll. I understand there's legislation protecting children in state care etc, but if the child is in grave danger the dissemination of information (if it can help to achieve a good outcome) should overrule anything, or at the end of the day there won't be a child who's privacy has been breached.
My two crazy cents for the day, I wish the cops would hurry up and announce he's been found safe and unharmed in the care of someone who should not have him. He doesn't 'feel' like he's left this world yet - to me, anyway.
Trying again to get first pic to work.
Some interesting theories.
I really doubt William is the Colt's kid. Reports say that most of their kids have some type of physical issue. Plus most of the kids were red-headed and appeared to be "slouched"
Also, the couple of youngest kids close to William's age were all girls.
That seems to be a popular theory. There is another Tyrell, who also has the first name of William that is a big shot with oil/gas company there.Wealthy/famous family. lt's been speculated for example [this is pure speculation] that the family is of the winemaking family with the same name. Kidnap and ransom, with threats of harm to William/sister/relatives if there's heaps of publicity
I highly doubt Tyrell is William's real last name. Blighted made a pretty good case above on the laws over there regarding the reporting of these cases.
I doubt he ran in the forest and just disappeared. The police were on this pretty quick. I believe they would have found him. Articles say they had scent dogs out right away. Scent dogs are not always 100% especially when there are other scents that contaminate the scene. If family and neighbors were looking for him before the police got there- yes, I can see where it would contaminate the scene.
Witness protection/cops/position of power.Yes, that's possible, I guess. If that was the case tho, why didn't the perp target the family where they live? How did the perp know the family was traveling to grandma's house? Seems like the perp would have been banking on a lot of things going right for him by following them to grandmas.
If William is a foster kid, I bet the police checked the bio parents out first thing. It really doesn't make sense tho. From everything I've read- anybody that didn't belong in that area would have stood out and been noticed.
At this point- either the parents did something or know something- or a seasoned scumball did this. He was on the lookout for a victim, seen William, and acted. Kidnapping happens in a blink of an eye. If I were on the police dept- I would suspect it was a local. A local scumbag was out in the woods and happened to spy William. Came down closer and waited.
I hate to type this, but unfortunately..William could have been taken into the woods, killed, then buried in the woods.Opportunistic local snatch. But given the police searched nearby houses with nothing found and no scent, surely he couldn't have been walked to somewhere nearby.
No offense guys, but this thread has become a bit of a clusterfuck. The simplest answer is probably the correct one.
It's a very intriguing mystery, confounded by the cultural differences of 2 English speaking countries.
Foster care (USA)- If something happened that created a danger for a foster child in his current household, most likely he would just be moved to another household. If the child was related to the people he was with, we would just say he was living with an aunt or grandmother, whatever the case. Keeping someone's foster identity secret would not trump the recovery of another child in danger.
Neighbors (USA) - On a normal workday and school day there are very few people around to notice what's going on at a nearby house. It's prime time for break-ins. We also have many rural areas and cul-de-sacs, Kendall is not a unique situation. Privacy creates it's own dangers.
Terrorism (USA) - We were feeling pretty secure before 9/11/01. Terrorists don't advertise themselves, they take every effort to blend in.
I really wish William and all the other missing children would be found safe. It just doesn't seem likely. Personally, I think the family was targeted for some reason, rather than his disappearance being a matter of momentary opportunity by some local. If bio parents were on the run with him, (again USA), their photos would be on posters and screens all over the place.
lololololol Isis did it hahahahah omg people.
I've been wondering about this, moreso since you mentioned it. I can't find any "official" quote to back up the comments from SES/searchers about it failing because the bush was too thick, although it's definitely possible when you see how thick the native grass is in places & remember it's under secondary scrub canopies & primary eucalypt canopies too.[IMG]<a class="" title="" href="http://i.imgur.com/jvAptnD.jpg"><img alt="" src="//i.imgur.com/jvAptnD.jpg"></a>[/IMG]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-camera.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...overed-2461579
They're a couple of examples I was talking about in my previous post, although Blighted Star you did already mention they did air searches @ night (sorry I missed that last time)
It just occurred to me though, that maybe the problem wasn't that the system failed, but that it worked too well?
There were a lot of warm bodies hiding in there from searchers - these are just a few of the potential lurkers
Assorted possums, gliders & potoroos, red-necked pademelons, red-legged pademelons, red-necked wallabies, parma wallabies, rock wallabies, swamp wallabies, whip tail wallabies (all similar size & proportions to young kids), koalas (similar body size & proportions, especially when ground travelling), wombats (would appear as similar size & proportions to a child curled up on the ground) & juvenile eastern grey kangaroos & (possibly wallaroos) plus any large ferals/introduced species they might have in the area like deer, foxes, pigs, goats & cats. There are some pretty big birds too, like the powerful owl, not sure how some of the larger parrots or lyrebirds would show up if they sleep in groups or pairs too.
It really might've been a case of far too many moving hits rather than none at all.
Latest news is no news
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/missing-wi...01-11fbdi.html
William Tyrell was last seen wearing his Spider-Man outfit. Photo: NSW Police Media Unit
Three-year-old boys don't tend to walk up steep hills. They run down them.
They don't tend to bolt into thick scrub and have it rip through their tender skin, either. Especially when the option is an acre of soft and manicured lawn to trip over on.
And that is what is frightening the hell out of the people of Kendall.
Missing: Police continue to search for three-year-old William Tyrell, last seen at his grandmother's house in Kendall. Photo: NSW Police
Two months ago the little mid-north coast town on the banks of the Camden Haven River was any town in NSW, where shopkeepers still busily swept non-existent dust off the pavement and young lads leant on the trays of their farm utes, having a yarn.
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Now there is a black cloud hanging over the rolling green fields surrounding the place, nestled a few kilometres from where the old Pacific Highway had cut through Kew on its way to Kempsey and beyond.
And the cloud has a name - William Tyrell.
Police at a command post outside the home of William Tyrell's grandmother. Photo: Kate Geraghty
Because, if they are to allow commonsense to take over their thoughts, then the townsfolk can't help but think that the worst may well have happened to the little Spider-Man wannabe.
It was the morning of Friday, September 12, when mystery came knocking on a town where no one used to lock their doors.
William and his family had arrived from Sydney the previous night to visit his grandmother at her two-storey home on Benaroon Drive, on the outskirts of town.
William went missing from the home of his grandmother. Photo: Kate Geraghty
The Queenslander sits on a corner block, atop a hill that looks back down the street. Behind it, in all directions, is thick scrub.
If you take out the small dirt track off Benaroon Drive, which winds several hundred metres up to a cemetery where William's grandfather is buried, or another dirt track that meanders up another side of a ridge, the street is the only way in and out.
And the walk up both tracks is steep. Very steep.
SES volunteers and police search for William. Photo: Kate Geraghty
Most of the 21 homes built in this estate sit well back on their lots, giving their residents a full view of most of the goings-on, if they are so inclined.
But these people are comfortable with each other. They might look after pets when others head off for a few days, and keep an eye out for the postie or the garbo, but they keep to themselves.
"It's just a normal neighbourhood," resident Richard Wilson says.
"We have had a couple of Christmas parties on the next door neighbour's block and everyone is invited. But you don't spend your life looking at what other people are doing."
NSW police interview drivers stopped at a checkpoint on Batar Creek Road on the outskirts of Kendall. NSW police are questioning people using the road at approximately the same time 3 year old William Tyrell went missing.
And it appears that is the case on this specific spring morning.
There are loads of things for little children to keep themselves occupied.
William's mother had already snapped a photo of the little bloke on his grandmother's verandah, playing with crayons and wearing a blue and red Spider-Man jumpsuit. It would become the image that has burnt itself into the minds of so many.
With his grandmother sitting on the back deck, and his mum inside making a cuppa, William and his four-year-old sister start playing "chaseys". It's about 10.30am.
It's less than five minutes before they realise. William is gone. And thin air type of gone.
Neighbours are roused and start the frantic search. Police are called within a few minutes.
And within a few hours a qualified search co-ordinator is running the show.
But nothing. The days drift by and still nothing.
Seven weeks have now passed since William went from playing with his sister to becoming the centre of one of the most mysterious missing person cases in Australia.
"I can truthfully say that nothing has been discounted," Superintendent Paul Fehon of the mid-north coast local area command says.
"Our starting point is an approximate five-minute window where William has walked around the side of the house and has gone.
"We are still at that starting point."
So did William simply walk into the bush and vanish?
Nine days were spent meticulously searching the bush, firstly in the adjacent Kendall State Forest and then the Middle Brother State Forest a little further away.
They looked for any sign of him. From pieces of cloth torn off his little suit, to a body.
They used cameras to send down drains and sewer pipes. And then double checked them. Nothing.
Neighbour Paul Savage was one of the first to start searching for William after his frantic neighbour screamed that he was missing.
"If he had wandered, he would have been found," Savage says.
"When I go for a walk you still find yourself keeping an eye out, hoping for a scream or a yell and not a horrible smell.
"I don't know how his family has coped, it must be torture for them."
All the homes in the estate were searched. And then searched again.
Missing kids are found hiding under beds and in cupboards more times than wandering the streets. But not in this case.
"We have had police through three times," Richard Wilson says.
"Every cupboard, they have had a look in the ceilings, have had a look in the boots of cars."
Police continue to keep an open mind on all possibilities. It is their job to. Investigations - especially the drawn-out kind - have an infinite number of leads and possible scenarios about them.
There have been hundreds of pieces of information handed over to CrimeStoppers since William vanished.
It is not up to detectives to identify a suspect and throw all their resources into getting the brief up on them.
Instead, they meticulously work on excluding suspects. That also means delving into those closer to home.
William has a complicated family history and, for legal reasons, his family cannot be identified.
And that, in itself, has started gossip. But there is no history of family conflict. Everyone has been interviewed and the whereabouts of all relatives checked out and verified.
Police have also looked up known child sex offenders within a massive radius of Kendall with nothing to grab at.
"I can't say I look at any locals differently, but I guess you never know," Kendall Cellars owner Rheannon Chapman says.
"There is that fear that you never know. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors?
"Until we know. It is the unknown.
"I change every day. Some days I think he has been taken and others I think we have just missed him in the bush somewhere. That bush is a big place.
"Although we spent hundreds of man hours out there, it is still a big place."
Chapman said she has heard about the man who had walked into one of the businesses in town and asked for directions to near where William went missing. She believes the story is true.
"I think the police side of things, the suspicion, was there straight away," she says.
"Just little things like looking at our CCTV. We were told not to delete anything and that was the next day.
"I just thought we would find him."
But Superintendent Fehon says there was nothing concrete to point to abduction, or "human intervention", as he puts it.
It is a rabbit warren to get to William's grandmother's house. His mother was looking out the kitchen window making a cuppa when he vanished and she saw nothing.
Not one neighbour saw anything untoward. How do you happen across a child that no one except family know is there, and then, in an instant, snatch him?
"It is out of town and out of the way. Who would be driving there on that Friday morning at that time," Superintendent Fehon said.
"It is a dead-end street."
Hardly anyone in Kendall had ever met the boy whose image on his grandmother's patio in that red and blue suit is now so familiar.
A kid whose fate has irrevocably changed the lives of most of the 2000-odd locals.
Children are not walking home from school any more - many mothers are picking their children up from bus stops less than 100 metres from their front doors - and there is a lack of youngsters playing in the street or in front yards.
Chapman, who has lived in the town since she was 10, now has her 10-year-old son catch the bus to her in-laws' house.
"I just can't get myself [to let him walk home]," Chapman says.
"It is so quiet - hardly any kids walk home. I sat [out the front of the school] on Friday and I think I saw less than 10 walking home when it would normally be the whole town."
Desley Copeland finds herself parked at the start of Benaroon Drive every afternoon these days.
She is across the road from the bus stop where the kids used to be dropped off and walk home, giggling as kids do.
"You don't see them out playing in yards any more, you used to see them riding up and down on their bikes," she says.
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"And that is really sad. Because everybody looks after everybody's kids.
"We always had our eye out. If you saw one of them with a skinned knee you would pull over and help."
But the town has changed, possibly forever.
"Nobody knew where Kendall was before the 12th of September," Chapman says.
"I have grown up here, I have my own family here, I own a business here, my husband is the same.
"You get this kind of blanket where you want to protect it.
"But at the same time you don't want anyone to forget William's face because, for us as well, not just his parents and grandparents, it is our town as well."
A local for 26 years, Sandree Peterson worked on feeding the searchers from before dawn to well after dusk.
She says the William Tyrell story has broken the heart of the town, which continued to press on even when all seemed lost.
"That is what happens here. It doesn't matter who it is or what is wrong, people will always look after one another," Peterson says.
"Everyone was just so distressed at the end of it all, even the hardest police officers shed a few tears. The whole town is so devastated, there is not a person it has not touched."
There was a quote from one of the locals not long after the search for William had begun. It has almost become a motto: "If he is out there, we will find him. If he is not, he will find us."
I'm a newbie here- Websleuths have closed the William Tyrell site unfortunately. I would love to keep up with any news about this little boy.
Karlie's Facebook page is open again- interesting comments and photos. Has she seen William recently? I have a feeling yes!
https://www.facebook.com/karliet2?fref=ts
I guess the mods got tired of snipping posts to comply with Australian laws. Gossip isn't real news anyway so we just have to wait for authorities to release information.
So sorry about little William.
It sure doesn't look like she's in mourning. I really don't understand why they wouldn't announce he'd been found.
Not much point responding to the post above now, but yeah, despite a massive amount of speculation to the contrary, the reason they haven't announced that he's home is because he's not & the Homicide Squad is now also involved.
But anyway, there's now open acknowledgement of the bush track 2 houses away from grandma's & despite comments from many insisting he couldn't have been abducted because neighbours "definitely" saw & heard nothing we now learn reason for that is the houses either side were empty at the time he disappeared. It would've been easy to carry him unseen to that track & a car parked through the scrub at the town cemetary
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1227173646506
THE search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell is being treated as a possible targeted abduction.
As his family spent their saddest Christmas and New Year ever, it has also been confirmed that the Homicide Squad has taken control of the investigation.
While police are not ruling anything out, after an extended large-scale search of the surrounding bushland spanning weeks after his disappearance they are confident William did not wander off on his own.
It is also understood he was not prone to venturing more than a short distance from his parents.
At a time normally filled with excitement, laughter and love, the Tyrell family endured a sombre Christmas, with presents for their son left unopened and a "void" in their household.
His parents said: "We pray that 2015 brings William home."
Lead investigator Superintendent Paul Fehon, from Port Macquarie Local Area Command, said: "They indicated to me that Christmas was just a quiet silent time at home, the emptiness of having a void in their house."
"That's been unopened presents, not able to share the festivities, to see a smile on young William's face to receive gifts or presents like any other normal child."
His parents visited the Kendall Services and Citizens Club shortly before Christmas to pick up the cards and gifts left for him under a tree covered in Spider-Man merchandise, set up by locals in his honour.
It has been nearly four months since William disappeared without a trace.
"The family said days like that just show how time can pass without any knowledge of what actually occurred," Supt Fehon said.
"There's a total unknown for them as to what happened."
The lead investigator in William's disappearance, Superintendent Paul Fehon, said lack of evidence is hindering the investigation. William disappeared from his grandmother's home on Benaroon Drive in the small north coast town of Kendall, near Port Macquarie, about 10.30am on September 12, wearing a Spider-Man costume.
His complicated family history prohibits his parents from speaking publicly about his disappearance, adding another element of mystery to the case.
Supt Fehon said a lack of evidence pointing to any particular scenario leading to William's disappearance had investigators stumped.
"It's got to be either adventure that's turned into misadventure, or human intervention. Because we're not finding anything on that side, we've got to be open to the possibility of human intervention," he said.
"Everyone involved in the case and even those not involved still remain a possibility as having something to do with what has occurred."
LYING IN WAIT?
THE person who abducted toddler William Tyrell may have laid in wait until the nearby houses were empty before striking, a neighbour believes.
Judy Wilson, whose property adjoins William's grandmother's backyard, believes it may be more than just coincidence that the child disappeared only after she went to run errands in town.
She said someone could have been waiting for her to leave, potentially aware that the neighbour on the other side was also away.
"If someone was watching the house, they would've seen me leave and would've known the other neighbour was away," she said
Her theory emerged as it was revealed that a second access point to the street could hold the key to cracking the case.
Neighbours said a walking trail, dubbed the "bush track" by local children, starts at the end of Benaroon Drive, where William disappeared almost four months ago, and leads through the scrubland into the nearby Kendall cemetery.
Supt Paul Fehon, who is one of the leading investigators in the three-year-old's disappearance, confirmed police had considered the track could be relevant to the case, but so far had not found any evidence to suggest it was used.
Police have also outlined for the first time a detailed account of what happened in the lead up to William's disappearance.
Dressed in his favourite superhero costume, William played an imaginary game with his sister in the backyard of his grandmother's home.
It was a game the pair played often, a kind of hide-and-seek where one would hide from the other before jumping out and roaring like a tiger.
After arriving in Kendall from Sydney the night before, the family was enjoying a relaxing morning at the Benaroon Drive property with the children's grandmother.
William's father had driven 2km into town to do some shopping at the local store.
Sitting on the porch about 10am with his mother, grandmother and sister, William ran around the side of the house several times before reappearing with a cheeky grin and running back towards his family.
So when he ran around the corner once again about 10.25am, out of view for a matter of minutes, his mother thought nothing of it.
Upon realising he had not reappeared again after several minutes, she asked his four-year-old sister where William had gone.
When they went around the corner looking for him about 10.30am, he was nowhere to be seen.
Neighbour Anne-Maree Sharpley remembers seeing William Tyrell's distressed mother frantically pacing the quiet street where they both live searching for her son just minutes after he went missing.
"You could tell she was very distressed when she first came to us," Mrs Sharpley said.
"I just remember saying "don't worry, we'll find him", and that has stuck with me because obviously they didn't find him.
"I waited with her while she called the police."
Shortly after, William's father returned from shopping and quickly began to grasp the urgency of the situation.
"I remember standing there in tears watching him run up and down the street, calling out William's name with sweat pouring off him. It was heartbreaking," she said.
"The longer it goes on, the worse it gets. Never once did we think that we wouldn't find him here."
Mrs Wilson also told how William's father frantically searched her yard over and over again into the night.
"He was just walking around crying. He kept asking me if there was anywhere else he could've been hiding here," Mrs Wilson said. "He just looked devastated."
Mrs Wilson said she heard the two children playing in the neighbouring yard before she left to run errands in the township about 90 minutes before William disappeared, just metre's from her home.
It was not the first time the family had visited Kendall, but their visits had become more frequent in recent months after William's grandfather died earlier in the year.
Locals recalled seeing William and his family at a neighbourhood Christmas event the previous December.
Lydene Heslop, who also lives nearby, said while the family was not well-known to locals, the entire community had been affected by William's disappearance.
"The kids aren't allowed to ride their bikes alone anymore and we walk with them to the bus stop now," she said.
"We didn't really take notice of strange cars before because that's not how we lived, but now we take notice of everything."
Last edited by nestlequikie; 01-03-2015 at 07:23 AM. Reason: To fix the quotes caused by forum issues.
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Lol. In most of Australia that would actually be a possibility, but luckily for this kid, not in NSW, well, not since 1885 at least. Thanks to the Dingo Fence. I had a cousin who worked on it about 20 yrs ago. They have to cruise along in the middle of nowhere checking for holes. If you've seen the movie "Rabbit- Proof Fence", you've seen the Dingo Fence. It's 3355.404 miles long & was originally made to stop the bunny plague.
Incredible moving story. IIRC locals were used in place of some actors, no? A tear jerker at it's best.
This is the first I've heard about little William. If I had to bet money, I would bet on family or friend over stranger abduction. JMO
Fibro Fog has taken over. I am in a constant state of dyscognition so please excuse my retardation.
'The worst things in the world are justified by belief'- Raised by Wolves SOI
"Your life is short, it's the longest thing you'll ever do/ the worse the curse was that your dreams came true/
God is a mirror in which each man sees himself/ Hell is place where you don't need anyone's help"
~You got to cry with out weeping. Talk without speaking
Scream without raising your voice~
I agree with you on that.
Perhaps LE are opening up to that possibility as well: ""Everyone involved in the case and even those not involved still remain a possibility as having something to do with what has occurred.""
I found massive changes in KT's FB from the last time I visited, much has been removed. I wonder why?
Why is there so little said about the 'dad' in this case? Just curious.
I've worked for docs, there are kids trapped in the system whom should not be there. These kids come with contracts that attach them to large amounts of funding. NGOs will hold on to highly funded kids for dear life.[IMG]<a class="" title="" href="http://i.imgur.com/jvAptnD.jpg"><img alt="" src="//i.imgur.com/jvAptnD.jpg"></a>[/IMG]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-camera.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...overed-2461579
They're a couple of examples I was talking about in my previous post, although Blighted Star you did already mention they did air searches @ night (sorry I missed that last time).
So there's a lot of different theories, it will be interesting to know the real story, if we ever get to hear it.
- Wealthy/famous family. lt's been speculated for example [this is pure speculation] that the family is of the winemaking family with the same name. Kidnap and ransom, with threats of harm to William/sister/relatives if there's heaps of publicity
- The family is in witness protection/parent/s are cops, position of power etc
- William is fostered and his bio parents organised to have him kidnapped - the things like they did not have a photo of him initially available and it was the first visit at the grandmother's give this one a bit of weight, then again it also kinda fits the second theory.
- Opportunistic local snatch. But given the police searched nearby houses with nothing found and no scent, surely he couldn't have been walked to somewhere nearby.
- He really did run into the forest. I believe it's a possibility but probably not likely with the other info.
There's been a variety of ?back stories` by people who ?supposedly` know the family but these are all conflicting and it's hard to work out what to believe so I won't mention them.
I think it was in here about the link to the Colt family and info about them, anyway it got me interested given the Colt family matriarch tried kidnapping some of the kids (boys) and so I did a check and short of William being 'Tammy's' child or born to one of the children (the older ones would have *just* been at childbearing age 3 years ago), it doesn't seem likely William had a connection to them along with the info this family lived in Sydney. Tammy last resided in Vic, and from what I could gather the kids were kept in rural areas [I don't believe I am talking out of line on that equally delicate case because that info is available in the official court document].
One interesting thing I found only a couple of days ago was this site http://www.lukesarmy.com/
Not sure if experienced MDSers are across this already but I found this REALLY interesting. I was aware of some sort of a mother-bagging site by dads who had been stooged in divorce proceedings but this is another ballgame. These people are not far off talking about kidnapping their kids back from state care - well that's how I interpreted it. Wow, I don't know how much to believe on it... Why would child services take kids from seemingly unharmful environments when they have plenty of legitimate cases to follow up... the mind boggles.
If this story can't be publicized 'just' because he has lost while in state care and DoCS has barred stories so it or the government doesn't cop bad press, then heads should roll. I understand there's legislation protecting children in state care etc, but if the child is in grave danger the dissemination of information (if it can help to achieve a good outcome) should overrule anything, or at the end of the day there won't be a child who's privacy has been breached.
My two crazy cents for the day, I wish the cops would hurry up and announce he's been found safe and unharmed in the care of someone who should not have him. He doesn't 'feel' like he's left this world yet - to me, anyway.
Its a a money game to the higher ups and it fuckin breaks my heart !
$$$$ that's why they keep them its ALWAYS there priority, motivation and end game.
Posting this as an update but you need to note a couple of things - *The ONLY statement made by Police is this - "Today police are searching a number of premises and speaking with numerous people as the search for William Tyrell continues," a NSW Police spokesman said.
*Do not be alarmed at the use of the word Homicide, it does NOT mean that William has been murdered. Again, we simply don't know. We must always hope that he is alive.
*Your comments will be strictly monitored and as I have said many times before, comments that speculate or accuse will be deleted, and commenters banned.
*If you have any information that could assist Police call 1800 333 000, and you can remain anonymous.
Homicide police have raided properties on the state's mid-north coast in the search for missing toddler William Tyrell, with detectives now almost certain the three-year-old was abducted.
It is understood computer equipment and a single mattress was seized from a unit in Laurieton, south of Port Macquarie, searched as part of the ongoing investigation into the little boy's disappearance four months ago.
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http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/police-empty...-12ulo7.htmlAn excavator has arrived at a house on the NSW mid north coast and police are emptying a septic tank as they continue to gather information in relation to the disappearance of toddler William Tyrell.
Homicide detectives have spent more than 24 hours searching through the single-level house in Wandoo Place, Bonny Hills, just south of Port Macquarie.
Police officers search the grounds of the semi-rural property in Bonny Hills.
Officers have cordoned off the semi-rural property, where an elderly couple live.
A grease trap and septic service truck pulled up to the house about 8am on Wednesday.
Detectives were instructing a man and he was later seen putting a large hose into the ground near the front of the house.
An excavator helps in the search.
Police are sifting through a mountain of bark a few metres from the septic tank as dogs on the property continue to howl.
Two officers were seen using rakes and picking up large clumps with their hands as plainclothes detectives watched on.
Resident Dean Pollard said the couple are the guardians of at least three grandchildren.
A septic service truck at the property.
He said at least 20 police officers and six cars were parked outside the home since 7am on Tuesday.
Next-door neighbour Hannah-Jayne, 18, said she was deeply disturbed that police were searching the couple's home in relation to the toddler's disappearance.
She told Fairfax Media she did not know the couple that well but said one of their grandchildren often played with her dog Wilfred.
Police search the house.
"It's really scary," she said. "I hope they find him [William] soon, just hopefully not next door to my house."
Another neighbour said she had met the man and two of his grandsons for the first time at a street Christmas party last year.
It is believed the couple rent the property and moved in a few years ago, neighbours say.
Missing: William Tyrell.
Missing: William Tyrell.
The couple are believed to own a business at the nearby town of Laurieton that was raided on Tuesday.
Computer equipment and a mattress were seized from an office space above a set of shops and taken away for forensic testing.
Spider-Man suit
William vanished without a trace from his grandmother's home in Kendall, just south of Port Macquarie, on September 12.
He was wearing a Spider-Man suit and playing in the backyard with his sister when he disappeared, as their mother made a cup of tea.
A 10-kilometre search of the area surrounding the house failed to find any trace of William.
The search lasted weeks and involved the NSW Police, Rural Fire Service, the State Emergency service and more than 200 locals.
Investigators have searched every corner of the 21 houses in the bushland estate where William was last seen.
Commander of the mid north coast region Superintendent Paul Fehon said recently that police were looking at a number of scenarios.
Superintendent Fehon said that, if the little boy had some form of misadventure in nearby bushland, police would have found something by now.
"We are completely open to any possibility, including human intervention," he said in an interview with Fairfax Media.
"If that has occurred, somebody knows something."
Anyone with information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Worrisome. Mattress removed. Computers seized. Sex crimes involved.
It sounds like they know what's happened to him, or have a fair idea anyway.
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