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    This article gives a little more detail about the polygraph.


    http://www.11alive.com/story/news/lo...eath/16047789/

    Lawyers: Leanna Harris passed polygraph on hot car death

    (Sept. 22, 2014) MARIETTA, Ga. -- Attorneys for Leanna Harris tell 11Alive News she took and passed a polygraph test after her husband, Justin Ross Harris, was charged with murder in their son's death.

    Attorney Lawrence Zimmerman released a written statement saying, "My firm retained a licensed veteran polygrapher and former law enforcement officer with decades of experience conducting polygraphs. On July 16th, 2014, he conducted a polygraph on my client, Leanna Harris."

    Zimmerman included the results of the test:



    POLYGRAPH QUESTIONS FORMULATED AND ASKED ON TEST:

    Prior to June 18th, did you know that your husband would leave your son in that vehicle?
    (Answer: No)

    Did you plan or arrange with your husband to leave your son in that vehicle?
    (Answer: No)

    Did your husband tell you that he was going to leave your son in that vehicle?
    (Answer: No)

    RESULTS OF EXAMINATION:

    After conducting three (3) polygraph charts utilizing a Modified General Question Technique, it is
    the opinion of the Examiner that there was NO DECEPTION INDICATED present.



    "I can confirm my client passed and no deception was indicated," Zimmerman said.

    Justin Ross Harris was charged with eight counts in the death of his 22-month-old son: malice murder, two counts of felony murder, cruelty to children in the 1st degree, cruelty to children in the 2nd degree, criminal attempt to commit felony exploitation of children, and two counts of dissemination of harmful material to minors. Authorities have not yet stated if they will seek the death penalty.

    Cooper Harris was found dead in the back of the seat of a hot car on June 18. Leanna Harris has not been charged. During her husband's probable cause hearing, Cobb County Police Det. Phil Stoddard testified about her alleged strange behavior in the moments after her son's death.

    Leanna Harris has expressed support for her husband after their son's death.

    Ross Harris is scheduled to be arraigned on Oct. 17.
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    i'm getting the same thing beli did with the speak here thread... i can't reach the last page.
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    Death penalty not an option anymore in this case:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1951622

    " A Georgia man will not face the death penalty on charges related to the death of his toddler son after leaving him inside a hot car.

    Cobb County District Attorney Vic Reynolds made the decision after reviewing Georgia’s death penalty statutes in the case against Justin Ross Harris, he wrote in a statement Wednesday, but declined to explain further.

    The father faces charges of malice murder, felony murder and cruelty to children. He's also accused of attempting to sexually exploit a child and disseminating harmful material to a minor, after allegedly sharing nude photos with a teenage girl and other women the day his son, Cooper, died.

    Harris is now scheduled for an Oct. 17 arraignment."

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    Damn. I was hoping they would strap his fat ass down in a sweltering vehicle til he was dead.


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    http://mdjonline.com/view/full_story...ar-death-case?

    Defense asks for 2 trials in Justin Ross Harris hot car death case

    (Nov. 13, 2014) After four months in jail on murder charges, updates came this week in the case against Justin Ross Harris, the man accused of murdering his 22-month-old son, Cooper.

    The jury trial is scheduled to begin Jan. 12, 2015.

    In a group of 15 motions made by Harris' attorney, Maddox Kilgore made what one Marietta defense attorney called a "creative" case against murder and seven other charges the 33-year-old Marietta man faces.

    Kilgore asked for two separate trials for the charges against Harris, arguing the murder charge should be dropped and accused the Cobb County police of wrongdoing in its investigation.

    Kilgore did not respond to multiple requests for comment Wednesday.

    The motions, made by Kilgore on Oct. 27, will be heard by Cobb Superior Court Judge Mary Staley at a motion hearing, which was originally scheduled for Nov. 17, but will be moved back, according to a clerk in Staley's office. The new date has not been set.

    Meanwhile, Lawrence Zimmerman, the Atlanta attorney representing Leanna Harris, Justin's wife, said she's been visiting her husband and has found a job since her husband was put in the Cobb County jail June 18. Leanna Harris has a complaint against the county, Zimmerman said.

    "(Leanna Harris) just received a notice to pay for the tag on the Hyundai Santa Fe that the Cobb County Police have in their possession. We are hoping that the District Attorney's Office or the Cobb County Police can either reimburse my client the monies she is having to pay to the finance company on a monthly basis, or return the vehicle to her so she could sell it. It is unfortunate that she is continuing to have to pay for the car note when the District Attorney will not return it to her," Zimmerman said.

    Request for 2 trials

    Harris was indicted Sept. 4 by a Cobb grand jury on three charges of murder, two counts of child cruelty, criminal attempt to commit a felony and two counts of dissemination of harmful material to minors.

    Kilgore asked Staley in newly released court documents to hold two separate trials for Harris: one for the murder and child cruelty charges and another for the two counts of dissemination of harmful material to minors.

    According to the documents, Kilgore said the trials should be separate because they name two different victims. He added the two sets of charges are "not of a similar character or nature."

    Marietta attorney Bert Cohen said Kilgore would benefit from having two trials for Harris, but he thinks it's unlikely the judge will grant his request.

    "It will be to his benefit, but most courts would not separate the charges because they were all happening in the same time period," Cohen said.

    Cobb Detective Phil Stoddard testified at Harris' probable cause hearing in July that police found Harris was sending sexual messages to women online during the day while his 22-month-old son, Cooper, was strapped in his car seat inside the hot car.

    Marietta attorney Philip Holloway said Kilgore wants to remove the allegations Harris exchanged sexual material with a minor from the trial for his son?s death because they'll damage his reputation for jurors.

    "(For Kilgore,) the benefit to having those arguably unrelated (sexual material) charges severed from the murder charges would be that the jury would not hear this salacious evidence that may be very damaging to his overall case, but the benefit would be that the jury would not hear the graphic nature of it," Holloway said.

    Kim Isaza, spokeswoman for Cobb District Attorney Vic Reynolds, said it's unlikely the DA's office will agree to holding two separate trials, but the decision is ultimately left up to the judge.

    "I can't imagine we would agree to that, so that would be something that we would argue against," Isaza said. "If we were going to do that we probably would have just charged them separately, rather than putting them in one indictment."

    Request to drop charges

    Kilgore also requested the judge drop the felony murder charge Harris faces, because the maximum amount of prison time someone convicted of felony murder could face changed on July 1, 2014 because of a decision by the Georgia Legislature.

    Effective about two weeks after Harris was charged with felony murder, the penalty for being convicted of felony murder in Georgia changed from a maximum life sentence in prison to now a maximum 30 years in prison, Holloway said.

    "The argument is the Georgia Legislature earlier that year enacted legislation that determined that the public policy of the state is that a death occurring under those circumstances is punishable by no more than 30 years and that to apply the mandatory life sentence for murder would be cruel and unusual under these circumstances and thereby violates the Constitution. ... It's a very creative and novel legal argument," Holloway said.

    Request to throw out evidence

    Kilgore writes in court documents that Cobb County police made several errors while investigating Harris that could harm his right to a fair trial.

    In three motions, Kilgore said various pieces of evidence Cobb County police collected during their investigation should not be allowed to be used at trial.

    Kilgore writes that police collected evidence from Harris' house and his workplace, The Home Depot, such as personal financial accounts and electronic devices "without a valid search warrant or probable cause" during the first week of their investigation, which began June 18.

    That summer day, Harris told police he left his son in the car while he was at work and did not discover him until he was driving away from work. Police said by the time Harris saw Cooper in the backseat of the car, he was dead.

    Kilgore alleges police who interviewed Harris in the hours and days following that June day did not read Harris his Miranda rights properly before interrogating him. Kilgore said Harris? statements about the incident made to police should be thrown out of the trial because of police errors, according to the court documents.

    "(Harris') statements were not voluntarily made, but were the result of coercion, hope of benefit or fear of injury," Kilgore wrote in the motion.

    Officer Mike Bowman, spokesman for Cobb police, would not comment on accusations against police, but he said the investigation on the case is ongoing.

    "I can tell you that Cobb police have been doing a thorough investigation on this case, so we're going to let the investigation stand on its own," Bowman said.

    Cohen said Kilgore's requests to ask for evidence to be thrown out of the trial are common for defense attorneys.

    "If the police interview the defendant then (reading of the Miranda rights) is an issue that needs to be raised for the trial," Cohen said. "It should always be done. That's very common."

    Holloway said there are details about the investigation that haven?t been released, so the validity of Kilgore's claims will be tested at the motion hearing.

    "The strength of this argument won't be known until we see what comes out in court when these motions are litigated. There's too many unknown factors right now," Holloway said.

    Description of attorney's motions:

    1. Maddox Kilgore, Justin Ross Harris' attorney, asks that the DA turn over all evidence they plan to use in the case

    2. Kilgore asks for all information police gathered in their investigation

    3. Kilgore asks for two separate trials for Harris

    4. Kilgore asks that evidence police gathered with search warrants be thrown out of the case

    5. Kilgore asks that statements Harris made describing the incident be thrown out

    6. Kilgore asks that a conversation police recorded between Harris and his wife be thrown out

    7. Kilgore claims charging Harris with felony murder is unconstitutional

    8. Kilgore claims the indictment was too vague to understand the charge of sexual exploitation of a child against Harris

    9. Kilgore claims charging Harris with sexual exploitation of a child violated his right to privacy

    10. Kilgore claims charging Harris with sexual exploitation of a child violated his right to free speech

    11. Kilgore claims charging Harris with dissemination of harmful material to minors violated his right to privacy

    12. Kilgore claims charging Harris with dissemination of harmful material to minors violated his right to free speech

    13. Kilgore claims charging Harris with a second count of dissemination of harmful material to minors violated his right to privacy

    14. Kilgore claims charging Harris with a second count of dissemination of harmful material to minors violated his right to free speech

    15. Kilgore asks to have more time to file motions in the case
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    He's saying that the police didn't have probable cause to search through his stuff and collect evidence? HIS kid died in HIS car...is that not probable cause enough??
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    Wow, I don't know which is most disgusting:

    10. Kilgore claims charging Harris with sexual exploitation of a child violated his right to free speech

    12. Kilgore claims charging Harris with dissemination of harmful material to minors violated his right to free speech

    14. Kilgore claims charging Harris with a second count of dissemination of harmful material to minors violated his right to free speech
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    Defense attorneys disgust me

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    Unfortunately they're necessary for our justice system to work. But in cases like this I don't know how they sleep at night.
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    The legal speak and legal logic used is not the same as common sense . The phrasing alone is often gross.
    It sounds like they are purposely outlining the legal language used to ignite disgust and backlash against the attorney.

    That said I would not do that work for any amount of money
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    Jury selection was supposed to being Monday, but the trial has been delayed, of course.

    http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/26354805

    Trial delayed for father accused of killing son

    (Jan. 13, 2015) The trial for Justin Ross Harris, who stands accused of murdering his 22-month-old son by leaving him in a hot car for most of the day, has been delayed, said Kim Isaza, spokeswoman for the District Attorney?s Office.

    Although the first phase of the trial was scheduled to begin Monday with selection of the jury members, that can?t happen until Cobb Superior Court Judge Mary Staley rules on motions filed in October related to the trial. The case was removed from the judge?s calendar Monday, Isaza said.

    Staley has not ruled on the motions Harris? attorney, Maddox Kilgore, filed in the case, which include requests for two separate trials in the case and arguing for the murder charge to be dropped.

    The motions, made by Kilgore on Oct. 27, were scheduled to be heard by Staley on Nov. 17, but that was delayed. Isaza said the hearing for the motions has yet to be rescheduled.

    "There is nothing currently scheduled in this case at this time," Isaza said.

    Police say Harris, 33, of Marietta, left his son in the car for seven hours while he was at work June 18. Harris, who has been in jail since June 18, faces charges including malice murder, felony murder, one count of child cruelty in the first degree, one count of child cruelty in the second degree, criminal attempt to commit a felony and two counts of dissemination of harmful material to minors.

    A conviction of murder has three possible sentences: life in prison, life in prison without parole or the death penalty, Isaza said.




    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...s-trial/njcxs/

    Channel 2 obtains evidence list in Ross Harris case

    (Dec. 30, 2014) list of evidence prosecutors will use against Justin Ross Harris. He's accused of deliberately leaving his 22-month-old son, Cooper, to die in a hot car.

    Former prosecutor Phil Holloway has been following the twists and turns of Justin Ross Harris case and was surprised with the amount of evidence prosecutors turned over to Harris' defense team.

    "There's simply an extraordinary amount of material. Some 124 individual items of evidence listed here, any one of which could be reams and reams of documents or volumes and volumes of electronic material so there's quite a lot to digest," Holloway told Channel 2's Ross Cavitt.

    The evidence turned over to Harris' legal team includes videos taken from Home Depot, the Chick-Fil-A where Harris and his son ate breakfast and those taken by investigators at the crime scene and elsewhere.

    The list inclused dozens of interviews with witnesses, friends, and co-workers of both Harris and his wife, Leanna, and lengthy forensic examinations of multiple computers, cellphones, and hard drives belonging to Harris and his wife.

    Harris faces an eight count indictment revolving around the tragic death of his son, Cooper, left in a hot car during a June day. He claimed it was a tragic accident.

    Prosecutors can add to the evidence later. They don't have to use all the evidence, and they must give Harris' defense evidence of his innocence.

    An interview Channel 2 Action News did with witness Leonard Madden is on the list.

    Madden has been outspoken and believes Cooper's death was a tragic accident.

    "His initial reaction was too organic for it to be planned from what I could see," said Madden.

    Holloway told Cavitt, "This right here confirms what we've known all along, that this case will take quite some time for both sides to prepare adequately for trial."

    Defense attorneys have already indicated from their filings that they want a lot of this evidence excluded from the trial.

    They could hear motions on that as early as next month.
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    God, this just churns my guts.

    I once left my daughter locked in a car by accident with my keys inside. She was only three months old. Called the husband, decided it would take too long to get someone out there, busted out my window. Done. No question. Fuck that window.

    How can someone do something like this?



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    A friend of mine busted a ladies window after she left her son in a hot car. She lost her shit when she came back to the car. She threatened to call cops blah blah blah people are idiots !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBeWithMe View Post
    God, this just churns my guts.

    I once left my daughter locked in a car by accident with my keys inside. She was only three months old. Called the husband, decided it would take too long to get someone out there, busted out my window. Done. No question. Fuck that window.

    How can someone do something like this?

    I locked my baby girl inside the car with the keys too. I asked a passerby to call 911 for me. The cops came and got that door open in seconds - no glass broken, baby fine, no arrest made.

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    Another one. NZ this time. Mum is a "senior member of staff" at the hospital where the baby died.



    http://www.news.com.au/world/new-zea...nt_content=AR2



    AN INFANT boy has died in New Zealand after his mum apparently left him locked in a parked car outside the hospital where she worked.

    The mum mistakenly thought she had already dropped the 16-month-old at daycare when she left him in the car park at Wanganui Hospital.



    According to the New Zealand Herald, the woman is a senior member of staff at the hospital in Wanganui on New Zealand?s North Island. A source told the paper the child was supposed to have been dropped off at the Noah?s Ark Early Learning Centre in Wanganui.

    Police told the paper they were notified of the boy?s death by the hospital last Friday and that an investigation had been launched. ?A post-mortem was completed at the Wellington Hospital on Saturday and further tests are under way,? Detective Inspector David Kirby said.

    ?Officers are also speaking with the baby?s family and hospital staff. Police are not looking for anybody else as a result of the death.?



    Not an innocent mistake ... In another toddler car death, Ross Harris was charged over the death of his son Cooper


    There have been several cases of so-called hot car death in recent months. Last June police in Atlanta, Georgia, charged Ross Harris in the death of his 22-month-old son Cooper after he was left in his father?s car for seven hours while Harris went to work at a hardware store.

    In August a foster dad in Kansas left a baby girl to die in his car while he was allegedly smoking dope.

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    Please make a new death thread for this person. This is not a 'babies die in hot cars' thread, it's for this specific case.

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    Justin Ross Harris is accused of leaving his 22-month-old son Cooper to die in a scorching hot SUV on June 18
    Detective Phil Stoddard told the court several injuries were found on the toddler’s body, including visible marks on his face
    There were also abrasions to the back of Cooper's head
    Warrants showed Cooper's car seat was set on the lowest level, which means he was strapped in as tightly as possible
    Search warrant revealed Harris discussed collecting two life insurance policies of the boy's life while behind bars
    Prosecutors said he spent that day exchanging nude photos with six different women, including teenagers
    Justin Harris had already admitted to researching child deaths online
    On Thursday it emerged he had also done an internet search for 'how to survive in prison' before the toddler's death
    Friends had previously described Harris and his wife as being the 'most proud parents there ever could have been'


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3ffAVPeES
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    This said it was updated on the 5th from the old article, so I assume there's some new info that hasn't been posted.
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    I don't see any new info in that article, but my phone hates the DM site, and I'm in the car on the way home from Florida, so I don't have any other options at the moment. Maybe I missed something. I'll read it again when I get home.

    I'm looking forward to this trial. When it first happened, nothing could have convinced me he didn't do it on purpose. However, now that I've calmed down about it, and the media coverage has calmed down, I can at least entertain the idea it was an accident.

    I'm not saying I think he's innocent ... I just mean if I were called as a juror, I would be able to look at it more objectively than I could before. (I don't live in Cobb County anymore, so I won't be called as a juror ... I'm just rambling, haha.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words Words View Post
    This said it was updated on the 5th from the old article, so I assume there's some new info that hasn't been posted.
    The only thing that might have been new was that he talked about the life insurance policies. Just based on the "behind bars" part, though.
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    There was a few things I didn't remember reading before but I didn't know if I just forgot it, and it said it was updated so it was a 'just in case' thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    The only thing that might have been new was that he talked about the life insurance policies. Just based on the "behind bars" part, though.
    It was only 2,000 and 25,000 policies.

    They had like a mini trial on July 2. He was denied bond.
    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/07...eath-live-blog

    What hurts dad's case is the fact that he came back from lunch and put those light bulbs in the car. Also, the state tested it out and Cooper's head would have been visible over the car seat.

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    I don't know why thay HLN article says it was updated July 5, 2015, because all that info is from the preliminary hearing in July 2014. Even the comments are all from last year.

    ... Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TupeloHoney View Post
    I don't know why thay HLN article says it was updated July 5, 2015, because all that info is from the preliminary hearing in July 2014. Even the comments are all from last year.

    ... Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible.
    IDK. I just went by the date that said it was updated. It said Fri July 03, 2015.

    Maybe HLN just fixed a spelling error or something????

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    It was only 2,000 and 25,000 policies.

    They had like a mini trial on July 2. He was denied bond.
    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/07...eath-live-blog

    What hurts dad's case is the fact that he came back from lunch and put those light bulbs in the car. Also, the state tested it out and Cooper's head would have been visible over the car seat.
    They think him going to the car after lunch shouldn't prove anything because his co-workers were at the car, too. and if he was trying to hide Cooper he wouldn't have brought other people close enough to be able to see him in there.


    not that I agree with him, but that's what he claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Words Words View Post
    They think him going to the car after lunch shouldn't prove anything because his co-workers were at the car, too. and if he was trying to hide Cooper he wouldn't have brought other people close enough to be able to see him in there.


    not that I agree with him, but that's what he claims.
    Unless the initial purpose was that he would have witnesses to it being a "mistake". By lunch the boy would undoubtedly already be expired. Perhaps he was hoping a co-worker would be the one to spot the kid thereby making his story more believable.
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