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    It's really weird looking at that. If it wasn't for the chains they'd look like regular little girls. Scary.

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    https://abcnews.go.com/US/slender-ma...ry?id=66268385

    'Slender Man' stabbing victim speaks publicly for first time: 'Without the whole situation, I wouldn't be who I am'

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...id=mailsignout

    One of two Wisconsin girls who repeatedly stabbed a classmate because she believed a fictional horror character named Slender Man would attack her family if she didn’t kill the girl lost an appeal Wednesday.

    Morgan Geyser was 12 at the time of the 2014 attack, which Payton Leutner survived. Geyser’s attorney Matthew Pinix had argued that she should have been charged with attempted second-degree intentional homicide, which would have placed the case in juvenile court. Instead, she was charged with attempted first-degree intentional homicide, which put the case in adult court.

    But Wisconsin's 2nd District Court of Appeals found that the Waukesha County Circuit Court correctly kept the case in adult court, saying it found probable cause that she had committed attempted first-degree intentional homicide.

    Pinix said he planned to appeal Wednesday's ruling to the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

    “Morgan’s fight is not over,” Pinix said. “The court of appeals dodged serious issues in the case and admittedly struggled with some of the areas of law.”

    Waukesha County District Attorney Susan Opper, who prosecuted the case, declined to comment.

    Geyser pleaded guilty to attempted first-degree intentional homicide in a deal with prosecutors to avoid prison. She was found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect.
    Geyser was ordered to spend 40 years in a mental health institution because she was the mastermind and did the stabbing, prosecutors said. Weier was committed to a mental health facility for 25 years.

    Geyser's attorney argued on appeal that Geyser couldn’t really understand what rights she gave up when she agreed to speak alone with a detective while she was in custody and confessed to the stabbing.

    The appeals court said it didn't need to rule on whether the lower court made a mistake in allowing the comments to police.

    Even if the lower court was wrong, “such error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt due to the additional, unchallenged and overwhelming evidence in this case,” the appeals court said.
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    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...lease/2453926/

    Teen Convicted in ‘Slender Man' Stabbing to Seek Conditional Release

    One of the girls convicted of stabbing a classmate to please the fictional horror character ‘Slender Man’ will appear in court next week, seeking a conditional release from a Wisconsin mental health facility.

    According to court documents in Waukesha County, Anisa Weier, 19, will appear in court on March 10 as she seeks release from the Winnebago Mental Health Institute, where she has been treated since her Dec. 2017 sentencing in the case.
    Weier pleaded guilty to second-degree attempted intentional homicide in connection with the case, and a jury found her not criminally responsible due to a mental disease. She was sentenced to 25 years in a mental health facility by Judge Michael Bohren.

    Weier is eligible to apply for conditional release every six months, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

    Bohren will preside over the hearing, with mental health experts expected to testify. They will work to determine whether Weier poses a “significant risk” of bodily harm to herself or to others, and if the court finds that she does, she will be denied conditional release, according to the newspaper.

    Geyser, who was sentenced to 40 years in a mental health facility, has not yet applied for conditional release, but has been the subject of several high-profile court battles, including over whether her testimony to detectives in the aftermath of the stabbing should have been admissible in court. Her lawyers had also argued that her case should have been tried in juvenile court, but were overruled due to the original charges of attempted first-degree intentional homicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...lease/2453926/

    Teen Convicted in ?Slender Man' Stabbing to Seek Conditional Release
    I'm not sure how I feel about her being released (if that happens). It was a despicable and heinous act these two perpetrated on another child. I mean I get that they were also children, but damn it was horrendous. I know Anisa portrayed herself in more of the 'I was just a follower role' and got less time compared to Morgan, but that makes me question if put in the same situation would she follow again? It is such a weird thing because they are/were children themselves at the time of the act.

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    I don't think she should be out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    I don't think she should be out.
    I agree Pidge. This crime was just too premeditated and evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Toaster View Post
    I agree Pidge. This crime was just too premeditated and evil.
    Yes. I don't know if these girls are crazy, evil or just poorly parented juvenile delinquents. But society needs protection from them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Yes. I don't know if these girls are crazy, evil or just poorly parented juvenile delinquents. But society needs protection from them...
    Agreed. I get made out to be the bad guy because I don't think kids/teenagers should be let off lightly because of just their age, but these girls don't need to be turned out to roam free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Yes. I don't know if these girls are crazy, evil or just poorly parented juvenile delinquents. But society needs protection from them...
    Amen!

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    Agreed. I get made out to be the bad guy because I don't think kids/teenagers should be let off lightly because of just their age, but these girls don't need to be turned out to roam free.
    You shouldn't. I am laughing because I felt that I had to tiptoe around that in my response above as well. People tend to see black and white when it comes to children being locked up and that is not a good way to view things, as we know each crime is different with different consequences. While I am sure some can be rehabilitated, these two committed a really depraved crime with little to no remorse until it helped draw attention to them. They aren't the victims here, they are the aggressors. Then again I don't think Jasmine Richardson should be out roaming free either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Toaster View Post
    Amen!


    You shouldn't. I am laughing because I felt that I had to tiptoe around that in my response above as well. People tend to see black and white when it comes to children being locked up and that is not a good way to view things, as we know each crime is different with different consequences. While I am sure some can be rehabilitated, these two committed a really depraved crime with little to no remorse until it helped draw attention to them. They aren't the victims here, they are the aggressors. Then again I don't think Jasmine Richardson should be out roaming free either.
    I know that some people believe they shouldn't be held accountable because their brain isn't fully formed and all that, but some of these kids are pure evil and it's not just because their brain hasn't formed.

    My brother was a great example of that, and I got to see that up close and personal. Everyone talked about how he had found Jesus and how reformed and washed by the blood he was, but what they don't know is that he sent me letters threatening me just months before he got out, demanding I do what he wanted me to do. I never told anyone in my family, because he > me with all my relatives, I just disappeared from everyone's lives and planet Earth as much as possible right before he got out. But his case is a great example to me of how 'rehabilitated' and 'reformed' these little fuckers are when it's convenient for them, but not when they chose to continue to be their evil selves. He aged 20 years in prison, but he was still the same evil POS as before, but he put on a good show and got out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I know that some people believe they shouldn't be held accountable because their brain isn't fully formed and all that, but some of these kids are pure evil and it's not just because their brain hasn't formed.

    My brother was a great example of that, and I got to see that up close and personal. Everyone talked about how he had found Jesus and how reformed and washed by the blood he was, but what they don't know is that he sent me letters threatening me just months before he got out, demanding I do what he wanted me to do. I never told anyone in my family, because he > me with all my relatives, I just disappeared from everyone's lives and planet Earth as much as possible right before he got out. But his case is a great example to me of how 'rehabilitated' and 'reformed' these little fuckers are when it's convenient for them, but not when they chose to continue to be their evil selves. He aged 20 years in prison, but he was still the same evil POS as before, but he put on a good show and got out.
    Exactly, some are just fucked up. Let's face it psychopaths and sociopaths don't just wake up one day evil, it's in them. Whether innate or learned. I am sure a case can be made for learned behavior through abuse, but does that take away their evil? No. Again not all kids should be locked up for life, but some should. We have a society that says lock up the kid with pot, but oh poor affluent harry rapes a girl and he gets off. Both should have consequences, but I bet one won't and that is the one that will continue his predatory behaviors. And OMG I am so f-ing tired of how finding Jesus in jail/prison somehow makes you all better. Yay you can memorize and spew bs, well you are not.

    I am so sorry that your family took up for the wrong child. I am however glad you disengaged and went on to have a life without that crazy in your life. You deserved better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Toaster View Post
    Exactly, some are just fucked up. Let's face it psychopaths and sociopaths don't just wake up one day evil, it's in them. Whether innate or learned. I am sure a case can be made for learned behavior through abuse, but does that take away their evil? No. Again not all kids should be locked up for life, but some should. We have a society that says lock up the kid with pot, but oh poor affluent harry rapes a girl and he gets off. Both should have consequences, but I bet one won't and that is the one that will continue his predatory behaviors. And OMG I am so f-ing tired of how finding Jesus in jail/prison somehow makes you all better. Yay you can memorize and spew bs, well you are not.

    I am so sorry that your family took up for the wrong child. I am however glad you disengaged and went on to have a life without that crazy in your life. You deserved better.
    Thank you! I am not trying to make this about me. I just get tired when someone says that children and teenagers shouldn't be held responsible and they get better, etc. If you haven't lived through it, it's easy to lump all cases into a group, but it doesn't always work that way. Killer kids don't necessarily get better just because they get older and spend a little time behind bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Thank you! I am not trying to make this about me. I just get tired when someone says that children and teenagers shouldn't be held responsible and they get better, etc. If you haven't lived through it, it's easy to lump all cases into a group, but it doesn't always work that way. Killer kids don't necessarily get better just because they get older and spend a little time behind bars.
    It's all very screwed up. My cousin,(16) basically a decent kid, and some friends,(18) did stupid shit (vandalism, theft, no physical injury to a person or animal). The 18 year olds were tried as adults got 6 month, suspended. Cuz got tried as a juve., was sentenced to the "training center" till he was 21, they did let him out to join the army at 18. Now this was years ago, but it's always soured me on juvenile justice. It's impossible to see what's in someones heart, and impossible to see the future. But when someone does the unthinkable when they are 10 or 12, I feel like they need a lot of help, not to be tossed back in the same situation that they came out of.
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