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    They didn't allow it to happen. Anything can happen. You turn your head for 5 seconds and shit can happen.
    I don't think the baby sitter or the parent is to blame at all. It was an innocent accident.
    Oh and to boston. I still believe there is something different about their brains.
    That does not make me ignorant. It's just makes me think different than you and that is fine. Im trying to be civil so please respect that.
    Yes, the owners can make them be even more aggressive than they ALREADY are.

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    Pit Bulls are NO more dangerous and aggressive?? Really? You don't see people setting up Labrador Retriever fighting rings. Just sayin'.
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    Yes they are. But actually , they are not top doggy in attacks. Here is a list.

    Akitas
    Alaskan Malamutes
    Boxers
    Bullmastiffs
    Chow Chows
    Doberman Pinschers
    German Shepherds
    Great Danes
    Presa Canarios
    Pit Bulls
    Rottweilers
    Siberian Huskies
    Wolf-Hy

    You can't ignore the statistics. Are dangerous and irresponsible owners just incredibly likely to own these particular dog breeds?
    Regardless of whether it's the dog or the owner, the fact is if these particular breeds DO attack, it's really dangerous.
    So overall, the nicest pitbull is still more dangerous than the most vicious shi-tzu.
    You wouldn't claim a tiger with a good owner is safer than a housecat with an irresponsible owner, would you?
    Sure, the house cat could be mean and attack everyone. But no one would get their throat ripped out. All it takes is for the tiger to attack ONCE, and he's immediately more dangerous. Akitas are nasty dogs...my sis in law had one and whenever we went to visit she would have to lock it in her bedroom

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    If people decide to be breed specific with dogs, they better be ready to be breed specific with people too. Because it's the exact same mentality.

    Are certain breeds more popular with people who intend on training them and raising them to be more violent? Yes. Does it mean the dog comes out of the womb already violent? No.

    Huskies don't come out of the womb already knowing how to drive a sled in the Iditarod. They're TRAINED for it. Do they have certain attributes that are suited to do it? Sure. But they can't just be hooked up and expected to know what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    If people decide to be breed specific with dogs, they better be ready to be breed specific with people too. Because it's the exact same mentality.

    Are certain breeds more popular with people who intend on training them and raising them to be more violent? Yes. Does it mean the dog comes out of the womb already violent? No.

    Huskies don't come out of the womb already knowing how to drive a sled in the Iditarod. They're TRAINED for it. Do they have certain attributes that are suited to do it? Sure. But they can't just be hooked up and expected to know what to do.
    Exactly!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Pit Bulls are NO more dangerous and aggressive?? Really? You don't see people setting up Labrador Retriever fighting rings. Just sayin'.
    You have to look at how each are built. Bigger dogs can cause more damage. Certain dogs are bred for water, herding, guarding, etc. But, fighting animals in a ring is a disgusting trend only humans could come up with.

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    And NO, Mickey is NOT dead.

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/ejmon...cente/6384533/

    Shinns and Deb and BB were spot on and he WAS underfed.

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    Good article!

    And this is where I get bothered- why does it HAVE to be one side or the other?? My heart absolutely breaks for little Kevin, the video of him crying in the hospital brought tears to my eyes, but suddenly, if I'm not all "BURN THE DOG AT THE STAKE, KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY" I'm somehow victim blaming?? Why can't my heart break for both the boy AND the dog as I see them both as victims here??
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    Every single one of the people who signed that petition should donate to Kevin's recovery fund. They claim this isn't a dog vs kid argument, well then if it's not, why can't they show the same support for this child??? My take on this is If I would have seen a dog attacking a child I would have shot it right then and there. End of story. Sorry not sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Good article!

    And this is where I get bothered- why does it HAVE to be one side or the other?? My heart absolutely breaks for little Kevin, the video of him crying in the hospital brought tears to my eyes, but suddenly, if I'm not all "BURN THE DOG AT THE STAKE, KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY" I'm somehow victim blaming?? Why can't my heart break for both the boy AND the dog as I see them both as victims here.
    Exactly.

    I also recall people blaming the babysitter, NOT the child victim.

    But we all know Ron has selective reading when animals are the topic. Which is ironic, when I think about how anti-gay activists and racists tend to approach their discussions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabei View Post
    I am more of a cat person so I don't know as much about dogs and their tendencies (although I love all animals). Are dogs that aggressive over their food really unteachable or re-trainable? Are they displaying alpha tendencies and reacting like they would towards others of their "pack" or just viscous? I was taught from the time I could walk NEVER to mess with an animal's food (any kind) because they could bite you. And as small as that boy was....his face took the most damage..poo kid. Also agree, ANY breed of any size could have done this, not just a "pit".
    I am just now getting to this thread and haven't read all posts yet (just got down to this one I'm replying to) but I had to jump in regarding dogs and their food. I would say to never try to touch a dog that is eating that you don't know. Better to be safe than sorry.

    However, I always thought when raising a dog (from a puppy) it is smart to pet a dog when they are eating, from day 1. They will get used to this and not think that because you are touching him/her when they are eating, you are trying to take their food away. I did this with my dog since the first day we got her when she was about 8 weeks old, and had my stepsons also pet her while eating. She has never once tried to turn on me or anyone when eating. In fact, she loves it when you pet her while she is eating. She wags her tail like crazy once you start petting her...I think for her, she gets 2 things she loves at once: food and affection! LOL.

    Now about the "taking the bone away" thing. If a dog mauls a child or anyone because you took their bone or ball or whatever toy away, should be put down. It's one thing if someone took the bone from a dog, and maybe the dog accidently bit him because he was trying to get them bone back (he went for the bone with his mouth and accidently got his hand/etc.) But the boy takes the bone, the dog gets angry and mauls him? That's insane. The boy must've dropped the bone right when the dog attacked, and I'm guessing instead of leaving the boy alone at that point and getting his bone, he continued to attack? That's the first thing I though, I may be wrong because I haven't read anything yet that described what had happened or how long the attack lasted. Will look into finding more articles...or at least finish this thread LOL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2Love View Post
    Every single one of the people who signed that petition should donate to Kevin's recovery fund. They claim this isn't a dog vs kid argument, well then if it's not, why can't they show the same support for this child??? My take on this is If I would have seen a dog attacking a child I would have shot it right then and there. End of story. Sorry not sorry.
    If that is what they choose to do then that is what they should do. Instead of joining the "hate the dog" bandwagon, why not focus that rage on the situation where a malnourished chained dog is in its own yard, an unwatched toddler goes into said yard and takes its food. Focus that hatred on the people who didn't take care of either the dog properly or the child properly?

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    As that article pointed out, the dog is on a strict time limit (the hearing is March 25th to decide his fate), which is why the outpouring for him is a bit more now than Kevin. I would hope that whenever the fate is determined, we'll see a lot more support for the little boy. However, maybe all this media is doing well, Kevin's support page: http://www.youcaring.com/other/for-t...f-kevin/144415 is VERY close to their goal. People are comparing the fact that only 174 people have donated to Kevin, while 54,000 "like" Mickey's facebook page.
    Apples and oranges people. It's significantly easier to click a "like" button on facebook than open your precious wallet and pony up for someone. Which, Ron, I'll be expecting to see your name on that list soon for donating to Kevin's fund. I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    As that article pointed out, the dog is on a strict time limit (the hearing is March 25th to decide his fate), which is why the outpouring for him is a bit more now than Kevin. I would hope that whenever the fate is determined, we'll see a lot more support for the little boy. However, maybe all this media is doing well, Kevin's support page: http://www.youcaring.com/other/for-t...f-kevin/144415 is VERY close to their goal. People are comparing the fact that only 174 people have donated to Kevin, while 54,000 "like" Mickey's facebook page.
    Apples and oranges people. It's significantly easier to click a "like" button on facebook than open your precious wallet and pony up for someone. Which, Ron, I'll be expecting to see your name on that list soon for donating to Kevin's fund. I did.
    I am so glad they are almost at their goal!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    As that article pointed out, the dog is on a strict time limit (the hearing is March 25th to decide his fate), which is why the outpouring for him is a bit more now than Kevin. I would hope that whenever the fate is determined, we'll see a lot more support for the little boy. However, maybe all this media is doing well, Kevin's support page: http://www.youcaring.com/other/for-t...f-kevin/144415 is VERY close to their goal. People are comparing the fact that only 174 people have donated to Kevin, while 54,000 "like" Mickey's facebook page.
    Apples and oranges people. It's significantly easier to click a "like" button on facebook than open your precious wallet and pony up for someone. Which, Ron, I'll be expecting to see your name on that list soon for donating to Kevin's fund. I did.
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    My bad, what i met to write is that someone working there said micky went nite nite but he got fired i guess. I did not mean to say the dog was already gone.
    He went online and said that there at the page i think. I've been trying to find it.
    But i agree with you live2love...i would have blown it's face off right there. No hesitation at all.

    And yes shinny, i do know a lot about dogs... umm well considering my sis is a vet. . Golly gee wiz. Don't be jelly lovergirl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post

    Oh god, here she goes with the fuckin gay memes again. How old are you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown Bitch View Post
    Oh god, here she goes with the fuckin gay memes again. How old are you ?
    Says the 60yr old who says "fuckin gay".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown Bitch View Post
    My bad, what i met to write is that someone working there said micky went nite nite but he got fired i guess. I did not mean to say the dog was already gone.
    He went online and said that there at the page i think. I've been trying to find it.
    But i agree with you live2love...i would have blown it's face off right there. No hesitation at all.

    And yes shinny, i do know a lot about dogs... umm well considering my sis is a vet. . Golly gee wiz. Don't be jelly lovergirl.
    "My sister is a vet so I can tell the breed DNA of common looking dogs by looking at them."

    Well at least someone in your family got an education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    As that article pointed out, the dog is on a strict time limit (the hearing is March 25th to decide his fate), which is why the outpouring for him is a bit more now than Kevin. I would hope that whenever the fate is determined, we'll see a lot more support for the little boy. However, maybe all this media is doing well, Kevin's support page: http://www.youcaring.com/other/for-t...f-kevin/144415 is VERY close to their goal. People are comparing the fact that only 174 people have donated to Kevin, while 54,000 "like" Mickey's facebook page.
    Apples and oranges people. It's significantly easier to click a "like" button on facebook than open your precious wallet and pony up for someone. Which, Ron, I'll be expecting to see your name on that list soon for donating to Kevin's fund. I did.
    Who the fuck is Kevin?
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    That's what i was wondering.

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    But of course we're going to take the word of someone who's sister is a vet over someone who works with dogs 24/7. Because being related to someone who works with dogs is much more of a solid education in them than someone who actually does work with them.

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    Are we really gonna start this shit again? LOL!

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    Let's see how long it takes them to figure out who Kevin is.
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