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    This is absolutely nauseating! This sick association is trying to convince society that it's okay to be in love and have sex with little boys. Unbelievable.

    The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization that opposes the use of age as the sole criterion for deciding whether minors can legally engage in sexual relations. NAMBLA defends what it asserts to be the right of minors to explore their sexuality more freely. It has resolved to "end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships," and calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."[1] NAMBLA's webpage states that: "NAMBLA does not provide encouragement, referrals or assistance for people seeking sexual contacts" and that it does not "engage in any activities that violate the law [or] advocate that anyone else should [violate the law]."[2]

    NAMBLA holds an annual gathering in New York City and monthly meetings around the country.[3] In the early 1980s, NAMBLA was reported to have had over 300 members, and was supported by such noted figures as Allen Ginsberg.[4] Since then, the organization has kept membership data private, but an undercover FBI investigation in 1995 discovered that there were 1,100 people on the rolls.[4] It is the largest organization in the umbrella group IPCE[5] (formerly "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation").[6]

    Since 1995, public criticism and law enforcement infiltration have heavily impaired the organization. Its national headquarters now consists of little more than a private mail box service in San Francisco, and inquiries are rarely responded to; it has essentially ceased to exist. Some reports state that the group no longer has regular national meetings and few local monthly meetings



    They also have one for woman that love little girls. It's called Butterfly Kisses.

    Celebrating erotic relationships between women and young girls is the theme of a website called "Butterfly Kisses," which indicates the relatively unknown fact that pedophilia exists in significant numbers among females.

    While the site's creators do not identify themselves, posted articles show how some advocates are attempting to create an academic rationale for what is commonly and legally regarded as abuse and molestation.

    "It's very dangerous when you begin to see women organize in the same way you have seen men organized to rape children," said noted researcher Judith Reisman, who referred to the people behind the website as the "Women's Auxiliary of NAMBLA," the North American Man-Boy Love Association.

    While the site's opening page features an apparently wholesome photograph of a mother appreciating her child, "the primary goal" of presenting the subsequent material is clearly stated in the introduction as giving "women and girls a tool for expressing their feelings and their love about this controversial topic, and to get people to open their minds to ideas about romantic and erotic attraction between women and girls that our society in the past has not been able to discuss openly and rationally."

    WorldNetDaily was alerted to the website by reader Sandra Hartle of Spanaway, Wash., a grandmother who is part of a group that has helped shut down about 1,000 pornographic sites on the Microsoft Network's website communities.

    She has discovered private sites on MSN depicting elementary school-age boys with adult men, but found "Butterfly Kisses" a particular threat to families like her own.

    "Some of the information on this site is so terrifying to someone who has three granddaughters that I cannot express my shock," said Hartle.

    "How someone could harm a child that is so tender and vulnerable is beyond my wildest imaginations," she said, "but when a woman can and does violate that child sexually it is somehow more devastating than even when you hear of these things being done by men."

    The "Butterfly Kisses" website indicates it is hosted by an entity called "Ipce," which describes itself as a "forum for people who are engaged in scholarly discussion about the understanding and emancipation of mutual relationships between children or adolescents and adults."

    Big Sisters

    The "Butterfly Kisses" site includes links to branches of the Big Sisters organization and Girl Scout websites, suggesting that these groups present good opportunities for women who desire sexual relationships with girls.

    Resources on the pro-pedophile site include articles under the heading of "Girl Scouts and Mentoring" with titles such as "Women Mentoring Girls," "Big Sisters," and "Lesbians are to Scouting as Sunshine is to Summer."

    In the site's reader forum, a participant identified as "Jean" posted a message Sept. 16, 2001, that said "this is the neatest forum. I have always been attracted to little girls (8-10 yr olds)."

    "Jean" said she is a volunteer swimming instructor and asked members of the forum for their advice on "making little girlfriends."

    The following day, "Poppy" wrote back and said, "You already have a convenient access to little girls as a swimming coach. Try showing them that you care about them more than your job asks you, i.e., help them with their daily problems, get to know them and become close with the girls who admire you."

    Like "Poppy," many of the voices on the "Butterfly Kisses" site insist that they engage only in consensual relationships with children. "Poppy" suggested to the swimming instructor that she could offer to give a little course in kissing to a girl who seems to be flirting with her.

    "But whatever you do," she advised, "don't force them to do anything they don't like. Good luck!"


    Sax and Deckwitz try to address the obvious argument that "because of the difference in ages, a relationship between a minor and an adult is necessarily characterized by too great a power imbalance. The basis of this objection is that young people cannot always foresee the consequences of their actions, and that creates an opportunity for adults to use, or abuse, them. The wishes of the child are subordinated to those of the adult."

    The authors object to that concern, however, arguing that "there is a power differential in every relationship. With children, great power differences play a role in their relationships with their parents, teachers, and even sometimes with their peers. We are dissatisfied with condemnations based on power imbalances."

    Asserting rights

    Like male pedophile advocates, many female promoters believe that children are being oppressed by adults who have taken away their right to fully express their sexuality in any way they see fit.

    "Butterfly Kisses" includes a section called "Rights Advocacy" with titles such as "Feminism, Pedophilia and Children's Rights," by Pat Califia, "A Child's Sexual Bill of Rights," "The North American Woman-Girl Love Association" and "Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children," by well-known feminist Kate Millett.

    Unlike the male homosexual movement, says researcher Reisman, author of "Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences," "the feminist movement – and that includes the lesbian movement – has been vocal about 'It's not right to have sex with kids.'"

    Nevertheless, Millett, author of the 1970 feminist tome "Sexual Politics," said in a 1980 interview reprinted in the book "The Age of Taboo," that "certainly, one of children's essential rights is to express themselves sexually, probably primarily with each other but with adults as well."

    "Do you think that a tender, loving erotic relationship can exist between a boy and a man?" Millett was asked.

    "Of course," she answered, "or between a female child and an older woman. Men and women have loved each other for millennia, as have people of different races. What I'm concerned about is the inequitous context within which these relationships must exist. Of course, these relationships can be non-exploitative and considering the circumstances they are probably heroic and very wonderful; but we have to admit that they can be exploitative as well – like in the prostitution of youth."

    "Sexual Rights of Children," is an article published in 2000 by the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco, which was founded by associates of famed sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, a pedophile, according to Reisman's carefully documented research. The article states that there is "considerable evidence" that there is no "inherent harm in sexual expression in childhood."

    While some believe they have "scientific evidence" to support that assessment, the wounded lives of members of Making Daughters Safe Again present a stark contradiction.

    "Too often, I prefer to be alone, because my heavy heart is too full of past pain," said one member. "My children get either a robotic mom, a sad mom or an empty mom. There are times when I meet their emotional needs, but there are times when I need to, want to and can't. I have to heal before it is too late."

    Another lamented that "as a child my body belonged to someone else and I had no boundaries. I never felt safe or whole. It almost feels like you are someone else. Almost as if you are the abuser. That you and her are one person."

    The www.nambla.org/  and http://home.uni-one.nl/hostroom/supergirl/ websites don't seem to be working at the moment. Hopefully they were shut down.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5MUb3TgN0
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    The ACLU has defended these pedophiles in the past under the guise of free speech. What they don't realize is that many of these pedophiles are enabled and encouraged by this club, and are led to believe that they are not wrong in their "love" of little boys. I believe they even have some sort of code, or manual to follow. That's what nambla is, one big sick organization designed to comfort and tell fellow pedophiles that fucking little boys in the ass is ok and normal. Also there have been numerous pedophiles/child killers/rapists who have been affilitated with the site and have had Nambla materials in their possession.
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    [quote author=Ren link=topic=6117.msg260132#msg260132 date=1175271345]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5MUb3TgN0
    [youtube=425,350]aN5MUb3TgN0[/youtube]

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    I swear, I knew you were gonna post that........ :-)
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    [quote author=Ren link=topic=6117.msg260132#msg260132 date=1175271345]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5MUb3TgN0
    [youtube=425,350]aN5MUb3TgN0[/youtube]

    Midgets piss me off :(
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    [quote author=Wick link=topic=6117.msg260137#msg260137 date=1175271572]
    The ACLU has defended these pedophiles in the past under the guise of free speech. What they don't realize is that many of these pedophiles are enabled and encouraged by this club, and are led to believe that they are not wrong in their "love" of little boys. I believe they even have some sort of code, or manual to follow. That's what nambla is, one big sick organization designed to comfort and tell fellow pedophiles that fucking little boys in the ass is ok and normal. Also there have been numerous pedophiles/child killers/rapists who have been affilitated with the site and have had Nambla materials in their possession.
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    There stretching their "freedom of speech" quite far and definitely using it to their advantage to try to excuse and justify their atrocious behavior.


    [quote author=Wick link=topic=6117.msg260137#msg260137 date=1175271572]Also there have been numerous pedophiles/child killers/rapists who have been affilitated with the site and have had Nambla materials in their possession.
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    Adding fuel to the fire is what it is. Yes, making it seem like it is totally morally and socially acceptable they are allowing many more unfortunate incidents of abuse and suffering to happen. People that are creating these sites ex. nambla and butterfly kisses are just trying to make these sick monsters feel better about what they are doing. Making it seem like it's this beautiful love that they are expressing, when most likely it is brutal rape and sodomy. Absolutely sickening. They all need help and fast.

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    Indeed it is sick how men want to "love" young boys and women doing the same to young girls. At least if they're going to explore their sexuality let them explore it with people closer to their age just because it'd be more attractive for them and the experience level would be more equal and less detrimental to their mentality should they not like the experience.

    However, I don't think the government should be taking a position on this. They have no right to start enforcing laws just because they feel it is wrong for others to do what they want. They should be attacking them for actual rape cases with the boys rather than basing it purely on age.

    They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. If the government steps in and starts banning things that most feel are wrong, it won't be long before rights we should have get taken away with it. Such as my right to not wear my own seatbelt or the option to not have an airbag. Who says I must protect my own body at all costs? This is up to the parents and the children themselves. Not an outside law that burdens their own opinion on us.

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    Deserve rights of consensual sex? Not with young boys my friend.
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    How can a child make a conciencious decison to have consensual sex?  :? :roll:

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    Indeed it is sick how men want to "love" young boys and women doing the same to young girls. At least if they're going to explore their sexuality let them explore it with people closer to their age just because it'd be more attractive for them and the experience level would be more equal and less detrimental to their mentality should they not like the experience.

    However, I don't think the government should be taking a position on this. They have no right to start enforcing laws just because they feel it is wrong for others to do what they want. They should be attacking them for actual rape cases with the boys rather than basing it purely on age.

    They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. If the government steps in and starts banning things that most feel are wrong, it won't be long before rights we should have get taken away with it. Such as my right to not wear my own seatbelt or the option to not have an airbag. Who says I must protect my own body at all costs? This is up to the parents and the children themselves. Not an outside law that burdens their own opinion on us.
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    :?
    You say it is up to the parents and themselves? Without that "outside law" exactly what actions do you think that the parents and children can possibly take? They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. I really don't understand your view. What exactly is your idea of consensual sex to a (ex.) 7 year old and a 50 year old man? If it was "consensual" I don't really think any child is mature enough to understand the true actions and responsibilities of a mature, sexual relationship.

    If the government doesn't enforce those laws to prevent engaging of sex between underage children and adults, then it would be harder for anyone that was raped or molested to charge a rapist or pedophile for the crime. Thank God we have these laws, because if someone, anyone were to even think about touching, let alone trying to have a sexual "relationship" with my 6 year old son, I would be in jail for murder.

    If you have a problem with the government there are plenty of other issues that are tainted with corruption you can complain about, but this subject is not one of them. If anything, I think they are way too lenient with pedophiles and rapists as it is. Yes, most need help. They still must be punished for their actions. 

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    I dont agree with these guys, but it still baffles me how one day someone cant have sex and the next they can
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    [quote author=manbearpig link=topic=6117.msg264808#msg264808 date=1175478239]
    Indeed it is sick how men want to "love" young boys and women doing the same to young girls. At least if they're going to explore their sexuality let them explore it with people closer to their age just because it'd be more attractive for them and the experience level would be more equal and less detrimental to their mentality should they not like the experience.

    However, I don't think the government should be taking a position on this. They have no right to start enforcing laws just because they feel it is wrong for others to do what they want. They should be attacking them for actual rape cases with the boys rather than basing it purely on age.

    They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. If the government steps in and starts banning things that most feel are wrong, it won't be long before rights we should have get taken away with it. Such as my right to not wear my own seatbelt or the option to not have an airbag. Who says I must protect my own body at all costs? This is up to the parents and the children themselves. Not an outside law that burdens their own opinion on us.
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    Do I dare say, it figures, he's from Ala-freakin-bama! No offense to the normal people from Alabama.

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    I prefer the National American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association
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    Do I dare say, it figures, he's from Ala-freakin-bama! No offense to the normal people from Alabama.

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    Nice find. I don't want to make any assumptions but it does appear like he is hanging out with a few girls under 18. Now I understand why he took that consensual sex position in his post.  But then again, that's just my opinion.
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    Indeed it is sick how men want to "love" young boys and women doing the same to young girls. At least if they're going to explore their sexuality let them explore it with people closer to their age just because it'd be more attractive for them and the experience level would be more equal and less detrimental to their mentality should they not like the experience.

    However, I don't think the government should be taking a position on this. They have no right to start enforcing laws just because they feel it is wrong for others to do what they want. They should be attacking them for actual rape cases with the boys rather than basing it purely on age.

    They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. If the government steps in and starts banning things that most feel are wrong, it won't be long before rights we should have get taken away with it. Such as my right to not wear my own seatbelt or the option to not have an airbag. Who says I must protect my own body at all costs? This is up to the parents and the children themselves. Not an outside law that burdens their own opinion on us.
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    ---How can a child make a conciencious decison to have consensual sex?
    The way any child should be knowing how to do anything. Through learning. Parents should be stepping in on this. If there's an adult out there having sex with their kid I think the parents are at fault for letting their child be in that situation in the first place. What's a 7 year old doing left alone with some strange 50 year old man? And if he's not strange, yes I know there's many pedophiles within families, but it still doesn't justify the government cracking down on every possible loophole. These guys are all messed up in the first place because they were not taught properly when they were young by their own parents. It takes a lot to make a sick and twisted person, or very little. Parents who really screw up by not doing anything, or a serious life change. I find it weird that old men would have interest in younger boys though. What kind of sick porn would you have to watch to make you think that way? I'm not supporting this group at all, but I am still against lawmakers "cracking down" on the idea of something rather than catching them in the act. This is a majority rules way of life of course. If all of us thought raping little boys was ok, we'd be cracking down on men having sex with women their age. Just like how all of you look down upon me when I say I'm atheist, because most of you are born into believing in religion. 3

    If the government doesn't enforce those laws to prevent engaging of sex between underage children and adults, then it would be harder for anyone that was raped or molested to charge a rapist or pedophile for the crime. Thank God we have these laws, because if someone, anyone were to even think about touching, let alone trying to have a sexual "relationship" with my 6 year old son, I would be in jail for murder.

    Also remember another thing. Laws dont prevent much. In fact, a lot of laws encourage crime. Take something very small. Minors buying cigarettes. Eveyone knows how bad cigarettes are. for you. Who is smoking and why? kids under 18 because they arent supposed to have them. I rarely hear of anyone over 18 that starts smoking.

    The only purpose of laws is that they only allow punishments AFTER the damage has been done. Prevention only comes in when there's a serious punishment. And our government does not approve of any punishments worth fearing. (I sometimes wonder how moral America originally was to begin with) Prevention can only occur with education. Parents need to step in and teach their children about life and not leave them in "la-la land" until they are 18. this is not a good thing to have "innocence." The worst things about my life was finding out about reality versus what my parents had originally told me. I took the lies to heart.

    "Do I dare say, it figures, he's from Ala-freakin-bama! No offense to the normal people from Alabama."
    I am actually from Massachusetts. A place where people are more likely to be free about their ideas. The South is extremely religion hardcore and one way is right and all other ways are wrong. Quite the opposite of how I feel.

    "Nice find. I don't want to make any assumptions but it does appear like he is hanging out with a few girls under 18. Now I understand why he took that consensual sex position in his post.  But then again, that's just my opinion."
    So under 18 is immoral or something? What if I am under 18? What if I am 19? 20? 30? 40? 50? Where does the line get drawn? What if I am 17 and the girls I am interested in are 40, 50 60? Am i immoral or are the older women who tend to my needs immoral/wrong? Who can even say the age I am? Chinese begining counting age starting at 1 and usually up it at the New Year. Our 3 month old baby could be 2 years old in China. What about if the human race survives a few million years and the Earth's rotation has slowed down to the point where one day is actually the same as a day and a half of our time? What if I take my brain, transfer it to a 10 year old child's body and transfer his to a 50 year old's body. Which one is allowed to have sex? Just a lot of interesting questions. Age is an ill-definition for maturity. When i was 14, I was running my own online business and making about $10k a year. I bet I would have passed the maturity test long before the 18 year olds of that same year.



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    I want to throw this question out there. Just because everyone is always big on the age thing. If a 7 year old is not mature enough to understand sex (and I have seen incidents where a 4 year old is more mature than an 18 year old, mostly due to his parents bringing him up PROPERLY [not beginning in la la land], so I believe maturity is not the word you are looking for)  and a 50 year old does understand sex (and if he is attracted to young boys I';m quite sure he has something confused with what's arousing and what's not) what age would you say is the right age of "mature enough to understand sex?"

    In the early days, people were married off and having children at age 12.
    In the 1950's people would say in their 20's. Now
    Now you hear about kids doing things at young ages all the time and everyone says "WHAT?"

    I'm going to say sexual mature enough is based on a physical perspective of the body, and the mentality should already be there from the family teaching the youngling about it before they expect him/her to get involved in sexual acts (South park makes a great point on this when they start teaching sex ed in school, called proper condom use I believe) and if not, the person will have to explore on their own, just like how most have had to because... parents are too afraid to do anything about it and want other people to do their job for them. Half the people who have had children should not have because they have not become mature enough to raise a child to be mature when they should be. Am I making sense? I know I'm rambling so I will stop now :)

    By the way, "I prefer the National American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association"  hahah South park is great!










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    What's an asshat? Please don';t use southern terms. I am unfamiliar with them. 
    Yeah...that's a "Southern term".  :2smiley: I'm not even from the south...yet you are so...

    As for the rest of what you wrote tl;dr
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    HAHahahaha, my friends used to sign up the people they didn't like for the NAMBLA mailing list.  (I wonder if it still exists?)  I'm so glad you made me remember that.

    The day someone can justify pedophilia (or consensual man/boy sex..whatver), is the day I get sick of talking about dead people!

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    [quote author=manbearpig link=topic=6117.msg264808#msg264808 date=1175478239]
    Indeed it is sick how men want to "love" young boys and women doing the same to young girls. At least if they're going to explore their sexuality let them explore it with people closer to their age just because it'd be more attractive for them and the experience level would be more equal and less detrimental to their mentality should they not like the experience.

    However, I don't think the government should be taking a position on this. They have no right to start enforcing laws just because they feel it is wrong for others to do what they want. They should be attacking them for actual rape cases with the boys rather than basing it purely on age.

    They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. If the government steps in and starts banning things that most feel are wrong, it won't be long before rights we should have get taken away with it. Such as my right to not wear my own seatbelt or the option to not have an airbag. Who says I must protect my own body at all costs? This is up to the parents and the children themselves. Not an outside law that burdens their own opinion on us.
    [/quote] The government should protect our children.  And they already have stepped in to ban sex with children.  It is a good law, and it is worthy of the "slippery slope" risk.  The government intervenes on behalf of children, all the time, with bad abusive parents. 

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    [quote author=manbearpig link=topic=6117.msg269982#msg269982 date=1175667219]
    ---How can a child make a conciencious decison to have consensual sex?
    The way any child should be knowing how to do anything. Through learning. Parents should be stepping in on this. If there's an adult out there having sex with their kid I think the parents are at fault for letting their child be in that situation in the first place. What's a 7 year old doing left alone with some strange 50 year old man? And if he's not strange, yes I know there's many pedophiles within families, but it still doesn't justify the government cracking down on every possible loophole. These guys are all messed up in the first place because they were not taught properly when they were young by their own parents. It takes a lot to make a sick and twisted person, or very little. Parents who really screw up by not doing anything, or a serious life change. I find it weird that old men would have interest in younger boys though. What kind of sick porn would you have to watch to make you think that way? I'm not supporting this group at all, but I am still against lawmakers "cracking down" on the idea of something rather than catching them in the act. This is a majority rules way of life of course. If all of us thought raping little boys was ok, we'd be cracking down on men having sex with women their age. Just like how all of you look down upon me when I say I'm atheist, because most of you are born into believing in religion. 3

    If the government doesn't enforce those laws to prevent engaging of sex between underage children and adults, then it would be harder for anyone that was raped or molested to charge a rapist or pedophile for the crime. Thank God we have these laws, because if someone, anyone were to even think about touching, let alone trying to have a sexual "relationship" with my 6 year old son, I would be in jail for murder.

    Also remember another thing. Laws dont prevent much. In fact, a lot of laws encourage crime. Take something very small. Minors buying cigarettes. Eveyone knows how bad cigarettes are. for you. Who is smoking and why? kids under 18 because they arent supposed to have them. I rarely hear of anyone over 18 that starts smoking.

    The only purpose of laws is that they only allow punishments AFTER the damage has been done. Prevention only comes in when there's a serious punishment. And our government does not approve of any punishments worth fearing. (I sometimes wonder how moral America originally was to begin with) Prevention can only occur with education. Parents need to step in and teach their children about life and not leave them in "la-la land" until they are 18. this is not a good thing to have "innocence." The worst things about my life was finding out about reality versus what my parents had originally told me. I took the lies to heart.

    "Do I dare say, it figures, he's from Ala-freakin-bama! No offense to the normal people from Alabama."
    I am actually from Massachusetts. A place where people are more likely to be free about their ideas. The South is extremely religion hardcore and one way is right and all other ways are wrong. Quite the opposite of how I feel.

    "Nice find. I don't want to make any assumptions but it does appear like he is hanging out with a few girls under 18. Now I understand why he took that consensual sex position in his post.  But then again, that's just my opinion."
    So under 18 is immoral or something? What if I am under 18? What if I am 19? 20? 30? 40? 50? Where does the line get drawn? What if I am 17 and the girls I am interested in are 40, 50 60? Am i immoral or are the older women who tend to my needs immoral/wrong? Who can even say the age I am? Chinese begining counting age starting at 1 and usually up it at the New Year. Our 3 month old baby could be 2 years old in China. What about if the human race survives a few million years and the Earth's rotation has slowed down to the point where one day is actually the same as a day and a half of our time? What if I take my brain, transfer it to a 10 year old child's body and transfer his to a 50 year old's body. Which one is allowed to have sex? Just a lot of interesting questions. Age is an ill-definition for maturity. When i was 14, I was running my own online business and making about $10k a year. I bet I would have passed the maturity test long before the 18 year olds of that same year.



    "Congratulations, you're an asshat!"
    What's an asshat? Please don';t use southern terms. I am unfamiliar with them.


    I want to throw this question out there. Just because everyone is always big on the age thing. If a 7 year old is not mature enough to understand sex (and I have seen incidents where a 4 year old is more mature than an 18 year old, mostly due to his parents bringing him up PROPERLY [not beginning in la la land], so I believe maturity is not the word you are looking for)  and a 50 year old does understand sex (and if he is attracted to young boys I';m quite sure he has something confused with what's arousing and what's not) what age would you say is the right age of "mature enough to understand sex?"

    In the early days, people were married off and having children at age 12.
    In the 1950's people would say in their 20's. Now
    Now you hear about kids doing things at young ages all the time and everyone says "WHAT?"

    I'm going to say sexual mature enough is based on a physical perspective of the body, and the mentality should already be there from the family teaching the youngling about it before they expect him/her to get involved in sexual acts (South park makes a great point on this when they start teaching sex ed in school, called proper condom use I believe) and if not, the person will have to explore on their own, just like how most have had to because... parents are too afraid to do anything about it and want other people to do their job for them. Half the people who have had children should not have because they have not become mature enough to raise a child to be mature when they should be. Am I making sense? I know I'm rambling so I will stop now :)

    By the way, "I prefer the National American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association"  hahah South park is great!










    [/quote] I am not sure if I have been around enough to make fun of newbs yet.. but I will give cookies to anybody who can actually read through that.  My ADD must be kicking in because I didnt even come close to halfway.

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    [quote author=manbearpig link=topic=6117.msg264808#msg264808 date=1175478239]
    Indeed it is sick how men want to "love" young boys and women doing the same to young girls. At least if they're going to explore their sexuality let them explore it with people closer to their age just because it'd be more attractive for them and the experience level would be more equal and less detrimental to their mentality should they not like the experience.

    However, I don't think the government should be taking a position on this. They have no right to start enforcing laws just because they feel it is wrong for others to do what they want. They should be attacking them for actual rape cases with the boys rather than basing it purely on age.

    They are sick and twisted but deserve rights to consensual sex. If the government steps in and starts banning things that most feel are wrong, it won't be long before rights we should have get taken away with it. Such as my right to not wear my own seatbelt or the option to not have an airbag. Who says I must protect my own body at all costs? This is up to the parents and the children themselves. Not an outside law that burdens their own opinion on us.
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    sorry. i think you are a sick twisted fuck yourself. Keeping adults from fucking children is not outside law burdening their own opinion on us. If I find an adult trying to fuck my child they better fuckin hope the outside law gets to them first. this bullshit really pissess me off.

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    Whoa. Your ramblings are wayyy too long to post so I'll just point out that this is for the pedophile.

    to rant -pompous or pretentious talk or writing.

    I love it when someone who has no children go off on rants and tell other parents and myself how to parent our children. Excuse me, what you think raising a child is like and actually raising a child are two totally different things. Hopefully, for the sake of any future children of yours you cannot/do not procreate.

    Your rants are mishmosh. You contradict yourself constantly, it's like reading an argument you're having with yourself. You are one of those ignorant fools that go from forum to forum to complain about our government on topics you know nothing about just to complain. I have a good idea for you, you don't like it here in America: Get the fuck out please.

    Quoting from your profile: Most recently I've been working on the Dudanation tour bus. Been spending a lot of time converting it over to vegetable oil.
    Let me take a wild guess. Hmmmm...pacifist, vegetable oil buses.....Green party?

    Why don't you go and try to douse some oil drillers in Alaska with water instead of making yourself look stupid with comparing true sex education to South Park.  :lol:

    I'm done. I spent more time on you then you deserved.  :hitwitrock:

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    [quote author=manbearpig link=topic=6117.msg269982#msg269982 date=1175667219]
    Just like how all of you look down upon me when I say I'm atheist, because most of you are born into believing in religion.
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    One more thing, I don't give a shit if you pray to the shit in your toilet. Please don't assume that everyone hates atheists. I respect anything anyone wants to believe in, if that's what makes them happy.

    That's one thing you can cross off your list on reasons to hate the world.

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    lol.  manbearpigs e-mail is available for your viewing pleasure.  In his profile. 

    Also, he appears to be a business man, peddling jackass rip-off videos or something of the sort.  I didn't bother to really try to figure out wtf he's selling.

    http://www.dudanation.com/contact.html

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    im no psychic but i am getting the impression that manbearpig wants to manbearlove little boys.

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