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    John Chakalos (87) found shot to death in home decorated with 6 million light Christmas display

    A man known for his grand 6 million-light Christmas display was found shot and killed in his home on Friday morning.

    A family member found John Chakalos, 87, in his home in Windsor, Connecticut, according a Windsor police department press release. The medical examiner's office ruled that Chakalos died of a gunshot wound to the head.

    The police are conducting an active homicide investigation, based on the condition of the body when it was found and because police did not recover a weapon at the scene, Windsor police Capt. Tom Lepore said.

    Windsor police were first to arrive on scene, and the department called in the Connecticut State Police major crimes squad to assist, Lepore said.

    Detectives are working to piece together events in the weeks leading up to Chakalos' death, Lepore said.

    Chakalos and his wife Rita, who died a week before Thanksgiving, were known in Chesterfield, New Hampshire, and the surrounding area for their elaborate Christmas display at the home they owned there.

    The Christmas exhibition takes up approximately half of the couple's 86-acre property and includes 6 million lights, said Joy Washburn, the property's caretaker.

    Washburn, who has known the Chakalos family for 30 years and worked for them for 25, said she begins working on the display in the second week of August. The display, which has lit up Chesterfield off and on for the past 10 years, is usually completed and ready by Thanksgiving.

    For the past five years, the family has invited the public to drive through the estate and requested visitors donate money or nonperishable food for Joan's Food Pantry.

    "Not only do they warm the heart of thousands of people who come through, they warm the hearts of hundreds of people in the community who benefit from food and cash donations," said Val Starbuck, a Joan's Food Pantry volunteer.

    Visitors come from as far as an hour away to view the Christmas display, Starbuck said. The donations from the display have typically been enough to keep the small pantry filled from January through April, generally the hardest months for people to heat their homes and feed themselves.

    The extravagant display includes a lifesize Victorian-style village, complete with houses, a hotel and a general store; a 22-foot Santa to greet visitors when they enter the property; and a Nativity scene, among numerous other decorations.

    "There isn't now in the woods a bush or a tree that doesn't get lights on it," Washburn said.

    The Christmas display will continue this season, Washburn said, but she did not know if the Chakalos family would continue to light up the neighborhood in the future.

    CNN's attempts to reach Chakalos' family were unsuccessful.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/23/us/con...html?hpt=hp_t5
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    +1 becoming. Apparently someone didn't appreciate his millions of lights.
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    This is so sad! Unlike most things from my childhood, Christmas lights still have an ounce of magic for my jaded old ass self.

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    god damn... Someone wanted him off the tacky light tour.

    Christmas lights that look like Santa threw-up and exploded, give me migraines.
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    Weird update:


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/28...r-killing.html

    Vermont man lost at sea was suspect in grandfather's killing

    The case of a 22-year-old man rescued at sea after clinging to a raft for a week took a dark turn Wednesday as it was revealed he was a suspect in his grandfather's unsolved murder.

    Nathan Carman, the young man rescued in the Atlantic Ocean after floating on a life raft for a week, had been a suspect in the 2013 killing of his grandfather, deepening the mystery surrounding his ordeal and the apparent death of his mother at sea, the Hartford Courant reported Wednesday.

    According to a search warrant for Carman's apartment obtained by the newspaper, Carman was the last person known to see his maternal grandfather, John Chakalos, alive on Dec. 20, 2013, when he had dinner with him at his home in Windsor. The 87-year-old Chakalos, a real estate developer, was found dead the next morning. He had been shot three times.

    The Courant reported Tuesday that Windsor police submitted an arrest warrant for Carman to a prosecutor, but it was returned unsigned with a request for more information. Carman was not charged.

    A will shows John Chakalos left an estate worth more than $42 million to his four adult daughters.

    Carman told The Associated Press on Wednesday he had nothing to do with the death of his grandfather and didn't harm his mother.

    Carman and his mother, Linda Carman, 54, of Middletown, Conn., left Rhode Island on a fishing trip on Sept. 17. Nathan Carman was rescued in a life raft off the Massachusetts coast on Sunday. His mother remains missing and is presumed dead.

    Speaking outside his Vernon, Vt., home Tuesday, Carman said that he'd been through "a huge amount" emotionally, and he thanked the public for its concern and prayers.

    Coast Guard officials interviewed Carman when he arrived in Boston on Tuesday. In an audio exchange with the Coast Guard from the Chinese freighter that rescued him 100 miles offshore in the Atlantic, Carman described hearing a 'funny noise" in his boat's engine compartment, seeing water pouring in, then losing sight of his mother before he boarded the raft.

    "I was bringing one of the safety bags forward. The boat just dropped out from under my feet," Carman says on the recording. "When I saw the life raft, I did not see my mom. Have you found her?"

    After the officer tells Carman they have not found his mother, he describes getting to the life raft.

    "I was whistling and calling and looking around, and I didn't see her," he said.

    Carman told the Coast Guard his 31-foot aluminum fishing boat sank and he spent seven days in a four-person inflatable life raft. Many questions remain about how the boat sank and what happened to his mother.

    Defense attorney Hubert Santos said he's representing Carman. He said Carman "fully cooperated" with the Coast Guard after he was transported to Boston by the freighter that rescued him.

    Santos wouldn't reveal what Carman told Coast Guard officials when he was questioned at the base.

    "It was a tragic accident," Santos said.

    The mother and son had left for their fishing trip from Point Judith, Rhode Island. Vermont authorities said police from South Kingstown, R.I., searched Carman's home in Vernon on Monday. South Kingstown police did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

    Carman grew up in Middletown, Conn., but bought a home in Vermont two years ago.

    Santos declined to comment on that investigation.

    Family members have said Carman has Asperger's syndrome, a form of autism.

    Sharon Hartstein, a close friend of Linda Carman's, said the mother and son regularly went on fishing trips together.

    "That was one of their bonding things," Hartstein said. "When he was available, she tried to make time so she could spend time with him."

    Windsor Police Capt. Thomas LePore said Tuesday that the investigation into Chakalos' killing remains open and active. He said police interviewed Chakalos' relatives, including Nathan and Linda Carman, as part of their investigation.

    Linda Carman's mother, Rita Chakalos, died of cancer just weeks before her husband was killed. John and Rita Chakalos were philanthropists who split their time between Connecticut and Chesterfield, N.H., where they had an estate known for its massive holiday lights display.
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    I should have known we had a thread on the Grandfather (or should have at least checked). I started a thread for the missing mother and the story about the boat:
    http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...live-on-a-raft

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    Here's another story, including an interview with Nathan Carman since his rescue: http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...927-story.html



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    Oops! I don't know how I missed that, rbw. I was reading the missing persons threads earlier. Derp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TupeloHoney View Post
    Oops! I don't know how I missed that, rbw. I was reading the missing persons threads earlier. Derp!
    haha, no it's good. We were cross-threading! They are two separate cases really, so I think it's good that we have two threads. I think he killed both of them.

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    I don't exactly know where to post this article since it's about grandpa and mom.

    There's no doubt in my mind that he killed his grandpa and mom. The news got ahold of the search warrant from grandpa's case. Grandpa was killed with a .309, Nathan bought a .309 from the gun store, but no longer had it.
    People described him as a ticking time bomb and Murder Boy. A search of his place shows he had IED's and charts on sniper rifles.
    Here's the long article about both cases
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ade-bombs.html

    And then you have this.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...qJI/story.html

    The April 2011 fight between Linda Carman and her father, at Mount Sinai Rehabilitation Hospital in Hartford, erupted when Chakalos offered a job to Carman?s unemployed husband, Earle Clark Carman, he told police. When Carman refused, Chakalos told the couple he would no longer support them, and said the only reason he had been giving them money was ?because he loves his grandson,? authorities said.

    Chakalos said Linda Carman began yelling profanities, blocked the waiting room doorway when he tried to leave the room, then repeatedly punched him in the head and scratched his face and kicked him. When Carman?s husband tried to pull her off, she struck him in the mouth, according to the report.

    Linda Carman told police her father had pushed her, triggering the altercation.

    ?My father is worth $300 million and I want my share,? Linda Carman told police. ?He is not going to cut me off. I need the money.?


    Linda Carman was charged with assault on an elderly person and breach of the peace. The charges were dropped in July 2011 after Chakalos said he didn?t want his daughter prosecuted, said Hartford attorney Gerald Klein, who represented Carman.

    According to authorities, Carman has Asperger?s syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism, and has faced many struggles. Carman was bullied, his mother told the Hartford Courant in 2011, but had forged a close bond with his horse, Cruise.

    Carman was an honor roll student in high school, and volunteered at a soup kitchen, according to workers there.

    ?All I knew from Linda was that he was a very intelligent kid,? Klein said. ?But with this Asperger?s, he had very limited social skills and was unable to communicate effectively.?

    In August 2011, Nathan Carman ran away from his Connecticut home He was discovered four days later in Virginia, carrying two framed photographs of himself and his horse, according to newspaper reports. He had bought a moped, had more than $4,000, and told officials he was on his way to Florida.

    Klein said he was contacted again by Linda Carman after Chakalos was shot to death in his Windsor, Conn., home in December 2013. She sought his advice because police had questioned her and her son about the slaying and wanted her to take a polygraph. He said he advised against it, but she took it and passed.

    When police began focusing on Nathan Carman as a possible suspect, Klein said, Linda Carman told him her son had been fishing with her at the time of the slaying.

    ?She was adamant that he couldn?t have been involved because he and the grandfather were very close,? Klein said.

    A 2014 affidavit filed in support of a search warrant as part of an investigation into the killing shows that Nathan Carman had dinner with his grandfather the night before his body was found.

    Linda Carman told police her son did not meet her hours later as planned, and did not answer his phone, the affidavit said.

    Nathan Carman threw away the hard drive of his computer as well as a GPS unit, the affidavit said. He was the only person in the family who knew where his grandfather kept his guns, and when officers searched his home, they found a shotgun and ammunition.

    Later, investigators learned that Carman had purchased a rifle in New Hampshire that was the same caliber as the weapon used in the slaying, but he had never told police. He declined to take a polygraph.

    The investigation into the 2013 killing is ongoing, and Nathan Carman remains a ?person of interest,? Windsor police captain Thomas LePore said this week.

    In Rhode Island, Narragansett Harbormaster Kevin Connors said the case has been the subject of constant speculation.

    ?I?m sure the writers of ?Law and Order? right now are working on a television show,? he said. ?There?s nobody in town or on the docks that doesn?t have something to say about it.?
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    http://www.wcax.com/content/news/Car...462848603.html

    Carman must turn over information on missing gun

    A Vermont man whose mother and grandfather died in mysterious circumstances must turn over information related to a missing gun, as well as phone records, in a Rhode Island lawsuit over insurance on his sunken boat.

    A federal magistrate judge on Friday ordered Nathan Carman to turn over the information about a Sig Sauer .308-caliber semi-automatic rifle he owned. That weapon is now missing, according to documents filed in a different lawsuit in New Hampshire. The documents say the same caliber weapon was used to kill Carman's grandfather in Connecticut in 2013.

    The judge rejected requests to get information about other guns Carman may have owned.

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    This is an article that talks about both case- grandpa and mom

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/loc..._disappearance

    Here's the thread on mom's murder
    http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...=Nathan+Carman

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    Wow. He did it. Greedy bastard and his mom want unearned money from Grandpa "just because".

    Amazing what the world has come to.

    I love having money, don't misunderstand. But if it means losing my morality, my humanity, by "offing" my loved ones then it was never worth it. Ever.

    These two obviously never got that lesson.

    And you know that bastard probably tossed that rifle in the sea somewhere, just so they couldn't definitively prove their case with ballistic evidence. Maybe they just ought to re-search and look for shell casings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevansvault View Post
    Wow. He did it. Greedy bastard and his mom want unearned money from Grandpa "just because".

    Amazing what the world has come to.

    I love having money, don't misunderstand. But if it means losing my morality, my humanity, by "offing" my loved ones then it was never worth it. Ever.

    These two obviously never got that lesson.

    And you know that bastard probably tossed that rifle in the sea somewhere, just so they couldn't definitively prove their case with ballistic evidence. Maybe they just ought to re-search and look for shell casings.
    Lol. I haven’t heard anything about mom wanting grandpa’s money. It did cross my mind tho.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/29...ssing-gun.html

    Lawyers seek to compel boater to speak about missing gun

    An insurance company has asked a federal judge to force a man to discuss what happened to a missing gun that matches the caliber of the gun used to kill his millionaire grandfather.

    National Liability & Fire Insurance company lawyers filed a motion in U.S. District Court in Providence, Rhode Island, last week seeking to compel Nathan Carman, of Vernon, Vermont, to discuss the Sig Sauer rifle he bought before his millionaire grandfather's 2013 death, the Hartford Courant reported .
    Attorney David Farrell's motion states that Carman refused to answer questions during a deposition about whether he was the last person to see his grandfather alive and whether he knew who shot and killed him.

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    http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...402-story.html

    Federal Judge Orders Nathan Carman To Answer Questions About Missing Gun

    A federal judge in Rhode Island has ordered Nathan Carman to answer questions about what happened to a gun that has been missing since his grandfather’s 2013 shooting death.

    The order comes in a case involving an insurance company’s efforts to avoid payments on the boat that Carman and his mother were in when it sank off Block Island in 2016. Nathan Carman was rescued at sea and Linda Carman is presumed dead. The insurance company has denied his claim for the boat, alleging that alterations he made caused it to sink.

    It also comes on the eve of a scheduled appearance by Carman in a New Hampshire probate court where the same question about the gun is at issue. Carman is expected to argue that he does not have to answer questions about the gun. Police have said Carman was a suspect in his grandfather’s slaying but has not been charged. In the New Hampshire case, his aunts are trying to keep him from inheriting any of his grandfather’s millions by having a judge rule he killed his grandfather, John Chakalos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Lol. I haven?t heard anything about mom wanting grandpa?s money. It did cross my mind tho.
    In the article above or states that she got in to an altercation with her Father when he threatened to cut her off and she started yelling about how he's worth 300 Million and that she needed that money. She actually assaulted him over it and was charged, but he dropped the charges. So, yeah. The whole family seems to have been greedy.
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    https://www.courant.com/news/connect...vpm-story.html


    A West Hartford probate judge has approved allotting Nathan Carman at least $125,000 from a trust fund established by his slain grandfather to hire an attorney to represent him in a legal fight with his aunts.

    Carman can use the trust to pay off more than $30,000 in credit card debt.

    Carman has hired Hartford attorney Paul Spinella to represent him in New Hampshire where aunts Valerie Santilli, Elaine Chakalos and Charlene Gallagher have filed a so-called “slayer” petition alleging that Carman killed his grandfather, John Chakalos of Windsor, in 2013 and was responsible for the presumed death of his mother, Linda Carman, who was lost at sea during a fishing trip with her son in September 2016.

    The aunts want New Hampshire Probate Judge David King to rule that Carman isn’t eligible to receive any of the millions, possibly as much as $7 million, that he stands to inherit from his grandfather’s estate as Linda Carman’s only surviving heir.

    A trial based on the slayer petition was scheduled to start this week but King postponed it after the aunts asked for a 90-day continuance to hire a new attorney. Carman has been representing himself in New Hampshire, telling King that he doesn’t have any money to hire an attorney. King has implored him numerous times to get an attorney and urged him during the last court date earlier this month to find one now that he is going to get the money from the trust fund.

    Carman was seeking an emergency order in West Hartford probate court to have Santilli removed as executor of the Nathan Carman Trust Fund claiming she had a conflict of interest because she was suing him in New Hampshire. Eagan appointed former Hartford Probate Judge Robert Killian as a special purpose trustee to review the request. Killian filed a two-page letter earlier this week ordering the trust fund to give Carman $125,000 to hire Spinella to represent him in New Hampshire.

    Killian also ordered another $25,000 to pay for experts to testify at the trial. Killian also ordered the trust fund to pay off Carman’s credit card bills.

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    I don't think the Aspy people i know and love would be able to tell the same story this long unless it were the truth. They are great with an every day routine but forget most everything else. Like you take a walk they will put on there coat. No problem. When it gets hot outside they still put on their coat. It takes weeks of you telling them No coat bring water bottle only! before long you're back to reminding them about the coat! It takes a plan to bring the stuff necessary to kill. Plus the obvious murder clean up, which is not what you do everyday. If they have found no evidence to tie him to the murder , he was not there. They are lousy planners. Great with routine horrible with spontaneity and surprise.

    Their not good at lying because they don't care to lie. It doesn't matter what you think of them. They are not big on making friends usually they appear rude they are brutally honest. Wish they would let this kid go.

    Another reason they are quick to freak out. When his mom fell off the boat he most likely started screaming and panicking not helping anything. Maybe made it worst. We were swimming in a pool. He is five seven, the water depth is four feet he's wearing a life jacket , he falls off an inter tube and is freaking out. He can't feel the bottom. He's grabbing his life jacket while trying to grab my arm. Now he starts to breath in a panic, now flailing his arms nearly going under, still attempting to grab me, I was - six long inches away. Finally I'm done waiting for him to get it together. I picked him up under his arms and screamed- Put your feet down! That's why I Just don't see him be on really helpful in an emergency.

    Just being devils advocate but maybe the Mom killed her father. It seemed like they were not getting along.

    Just my experience. I love them.

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