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    Mary Greff, 23, strangled to death by ex-boyfriend with baby in same room



    Update: Ex-boyfriend of young mom slain in her Waldwick home charged with murder

    OCTOBER 24, 2013--A 23-year-old single mother and 2008 Miss Teen New Jersey pageant contestant was found dead on Wednesday afternoon after apparently being strangled at her parents' home in Waldwick, with her baby lying unharmed in a bassinet nearby, authorities said.

    Mary Greff, who gave birth to a baby boy in February, was found by her father at 1 p.m. in a second-floor bedroom of the house on Mary Lane, Bergen County Prosecutor John L. Molinelli said at the scene. Her infant son appears to have been alone for hours because police said they believe she died sometime in the early morning hours on Wednesday.

    "An autopsy is yet to be performed, but the death has been ruled a homicide due to evidence of strangulation/asphyxiation," Molinelli said in a statement on Wednesday night.

    The dead woman's parents, Leon and Carol Ann Greff, who are well known in education circles, had gone out on Wednesday morning to run errands, Molinelli said. They called police after they returned home and Leon Greff found his daughter's body on her bedroom floor, Molinelli said.

    Mary Greff's body remained where it had been found for much of the day as police cordoned off the area and waited for a warrant to search inside and for the medical examiner to arrive. The examiner arrived shortly after 8 p.m., and Greff's body was removed from the house about an hour later.

    Mary Greff was adopted when she was a preteen, Molinelli said. She was a contestant in the 2008 Miss New Jersey Teen USA contest, according to the pageant's website. She graduated from Waldwick High School in 2009 and attended Lyndon State College in Lyndonville, Vt., where she majored in special education and was on the dean's list.

    She had left college and moved in with her parents when she gave birth to a son in February, said Marissa Molinaro, a friend and former classmate of Greff's. Greff then lived for a time in Waldwick with the father of her child, whom a friend identified as Mark Spatucci, but recently moved back in with her parents, she said.

    Attempts to reach Spatucci were unsuccessful. A woman who identified herself as his mother when reached by phone said she was concerned about her grandson. "I don't know anything," said the woman, who declined to give her name. "They're not telling me a damn thing. I'm trying to get my 9-month-old grandson," adding that she had been unable to do so.

    Molinelli initially said police believed Greff died between 11 p.m. Tuesday and 1 a.m. Wednesday. He later said in a statement that she had died in the "early-morning hours" on Wednesday. He described her as "very petite, thin" and said she recently began working as a hostess at a restaurant. Greff had written on her Facebook page that she was working at the Tilted Kilt Pub in Wayne.
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    WALDWICK (WABC) -- Police in New Jersey have arrested the former boyfriend of a young mother found strangled to death with their infant in the same room. The body of 23-year-old Mary Greff, a former Miss New Jersey Teen USA contestant, was discovered in bed Wednesday in the Waldwick home she shared with her parents. Her infant was found unharmed in a bassinet in the same room.

    Investigators say Mark Spatucci, 22, drove to the Greff residence and entered the house through a second floor window and entered the victim's bedroom on Tuesday night. Once inside the bedroom with the victim and the baby, Spatucci and Greff began arguing. Authorities say it is believed the baby and Greff's parents were sleeping at the time.

    The argument apparently turned violent and Spatucci is alleged to have killed Greff and left her lying on her bed. Autopsy is still pending, but the cause of death is believed to be by asphyxiation.

    Investigators say Spatucci then left the Greff residence in the same manner that he entered, unnoticed by the victim's parents.

    Police found him late Wednesday afternoon in Midland Park and taken into custody for questioning. He was later charged with murder, felony murder, burglary, endangering the welfare of a child and hindering apprehension. Spatucci is currently lodged in the Bergen County Jail in Hackensack on $2,000.000.00 bail.

    According to the family, Spatucci had court ordered custody visitation with the baby but Mary Greff had full custody. Greff's parents had gone out to run errands on Wednesday morning, and police say the body was there for about 12 hours before she was found.

    "They left in the morning, and it wasn't until they returned when they realized that they had not heard from their daughter," Bergen County Prosecutor James Molinelli said. "So that's when the father went upstairs and found the body."

    http://www.abclocal.go.com/wabc/stor...sey&id=9298757
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    So the parents sleep through him breaking in through a 2nd floor window, a violent argument and her being killed? They are some sound sleepers. Were they arguing violently in whispers? Also, that baby must have been screaming long before 1pm, how could the parents not hear that? Not saying they're suspicious, it's just strange...

    eta: that baby is ADORABLE.

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    What the fuck is wrong with these guys? The list of women & children murdered by tantrum-throwing man-toddlers NEVER ENDS. & What THE FUCK does the paternal grandma think she's doing??

    The other grandparents have just found their daughter's dead body in their home. Her grandson was abandoned with only his Mum's dead body for company & it's this caring grandma's offspring who may well be responsible for the entire tragedy??!! Even if her son didn't do it, how can her only focus be on taking a baby from a couple who just found their daughter dead??

    I bet she argues that the other grandparents shouldn't have access because their daughter was adopted as a pre-teen & therefore they aren't family to HER grandson. I don't know anything about your laws but she couldn't get away with that could she? I know she shouldn't suffer because of her son's shit choices if she had no part in them, but the bottom line is one set of grandparents has already raised an adopted pre-teen to be a high-achieving university graduate. The other grandparent raised a child from infancy to be (allegedly) a killer. Then there's the appearance of being more concerned about getting hold of what's rightfully hers than the fact someone is dead - & her son may be responsible.

    I hope that baby stays where he is unless there's actually a valid reason to move him. Poor little guy & poor Mum. I'm so sick of these stories - there's just so many that they barely rate a mention in the media & that really sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    So the parents sleep through him breaking in through a 2nd floor window, a violent argument and her being killed? They are some sound sleepers. Were they arguing violently in whispers? Also, that baby must have been screaming long before 1pm, how could the parents not hear that? Not saying they're suspicious, it's just strange...

    eta: that baby is ADORABLE.
    Sound travels differently in homes. Say the family is the type who leave the TV on all day and night, they probably didn't hear anything.

    My boyfriend has band practice on the other side of the house and the sound travels so that I can't hear it at all.

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    If the baby was in the room they probably WERE arguing in whispers.
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    Blame it on the 'Roid Rage. What a colossal dickhead.
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    I am totally confused about this story it's an absolute travesty but where is this story coming from the police. Where is the evidence. There is no confession no witnesses. How do they have such a detailed account of what happens yet they say nothing of how the investigators came about this I formation. I don't understand. And he obviously hasn't confessed because he plead not guilty. So how do the pigs know what happened that night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    I am totally confused about this story it's an absolute travesty but where is this story coming from the police. Where is the evidence. There is no confession no witnesses. How do they have such a detailed account of what happens yet they say nothing of how the investigators came about this I formation. I don't understand. And he obviously hasn't confessed because he plead not guilty. So how do the pigs know what happened that night.
    My guess would be they came to that conclusion based on prior domestic violence incidences involving Mary and her ex boyfriend. How do you know there weren't any witnesses? Someone could have seen the ex climbing into the window of her house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    I am totally confused about this story it's an absolute travesty but where is this story coming from the police. Where is the evidence. There is no confession no witnesses. How do they have such a detailed account of what happens yet they say nothing of how the investigators came about this I formation. I don't understand. And he obviously hasn't confessed because he plead not guilty. So how do the pigs know what happened that night.
    Wut. Because evidence collected is how every murder case ever is figured out and resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    So the parents sleep through him breaking in through a 2nd floor window, a violent argument and her being killed? They are some sound sleepers. Were they arguing violently in whispers? Also, that baby must have been screaming long before 1pm, how could the parents not hear that? Not saying they're suspicious, it's just strange...

    eta: that baby is ADORABLE.
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    And he was charged with murder, and felony murder. Explanation please. Seems to me they'd be the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevansvault View Post
    And he was charged with murder, and felony murder. Explanation please. Seems to me they'd be the same thing.
    felony murder is a murder that happens while committing a felony, like robbing a bank or rape. it doesn't necessarily have to have been intended and could have been avoided if you weren't already committing a felony.

    it's usually tacked on so that they can still convict you if they think the jury might find that you didn't actually mean to kill the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    I am totally confused about this story it's an absolute travesty but where is this story coming from the police. Where is the evidence. There is no confession no witnesses. How do they have such a detailed account of what happens yet they say nothing of how the investigators came about this I formation. I don't understand. And he obviously hasn't confessed because he plead not guilty. So how do the pigs know what happened that night.
    Lots of people confess and then plead not guilty. They do so in the hope that they their confession can get thrown out, they claim they were coerced, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    I am totally confused about this story it's an absolute travesty but where is this story coming from the police. Where is the evidence. There is no confession no witnesses. How do they have such a detailed account of what happens yet they say nothing of how the investigators came about this I formation. I don't understand. And he obviously hasn't confessed because he plead not guilty. So how do the pigs know what happened that night.
    I would assume there is evidence of him breaking in thru the window--screen off, fingerprints etc. Witnesses who saw his car outside the house, physical evidence on him (scratches) received during a struggle...there are lots of ways to piece together what happened without a confession.

    Are you a friend of his or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    felony murder is a murder that happens while committing a felony, like robbing a bank or rape. it doesn't necessarily have to have been intended and could have been avoided if you weren't already committing a felony.

    it's usually tacked on so that they can still convict you if they think the jury might find that you didn't actually mean to kill the person.
    Yeah, thanks for that. Sometimes I forget to use my brain. And he meant to kill her, I'm sure. Do these dumb motherfuckers think "Oh, she's just passed out, she'll be fine?" Or, "I knew something was wrong with her cuz I choked her but I didn't want to get arrested for assault." So instead, asshole, you're gonna be convicted of murder. A s s h o l e. He and his family. Fuck them.
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    OMG how damn sad for everyone involved!!

    RIP Mary

    I do have to laugh at blighted star's terminology: "tantrum-throwing man-toddlers."

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    Molinelli initially said police believed Greff died between 11 p.m. Tuesday and 1 a.m. Wednesday. He later said in a statement that she had died in the "early-morning hours" on Wednesday. He described her as "very petite, thin" and said she recently began working as a hostess at a restaurant. Greff had written on her Facebook page that she was working at the Tilted Kilt Pub in Wayne.
    Odd little thing I noticed: Chelsea Garrish ( http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...ad-rage-attack ) worked at a Tilted Kilt Pub as well. Chelsea worked at the location in Ganesville GA.

    Williams worked at McKee Foods for the past 24 years and Gerrish was employed by U-Haul and the Tilted Kilt pub.
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