Thats pretty agressive tho to wrap him like that. Restraints should only be used if it's something a specialist recommends. Just my opinion tho.
I think 6 blankets is a bit overkill here.
Poor kiddo, this could have been avoided.
Thats pretty agressive tho to wrap him like that. Restraints should only be used if it's something a specialist recommends. Just my opinion tho.
I think 6 blankets is a bit overkill here.
Poor kiddo, this could have been avoided.
I don't really want to break your pitchfork. I meant that by taking an extreme position, the thread focus changes from savaging the perpetrators, to arguing with you ... & eventually the thread dies the same death. That post, like most for the last week, fell victim to an appallingly crap tablet. I just got a new one an hour ago, so hopefully I start to make more sense & sound less like a cantankerous jerk (hopefully, I said)Originally Posted by Ron_NYC
Oh, absolutely not.
I don't even know if my theory is true. But it is nice to have a different opinion instead of 1.5 pages of "Fry them" and then the thread dying.
I'm a level-headed person, and I like to think that I'm pretty good about keeping an open mind. But this is just not a situation where I can do that. The phrases "they smothered a 3-year-old to death" and "out of the goodness of their hearts" are just not two phrases my brain can put together. I just can't.
(And, for the record, I'm not saying that the phrases I put in quotes were your exact words.)
I agree ... autistic or not, what these people did was horrific. I also wonder about the other "wrap" victims. Wtf. Do Donella's children -- the parents of her grandchildren -- know that their mom does this to their children? It's sick.
Every article I've read, including the one posted above, say this was done as PUNISHMENT. Not to protect him from himself, not because he was beating the shit out of himself or someone else, but as PUNISHMENT.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/m...thwest-florida
Three babysitters watched as a three-year-old boy died in a cruel punishment called 'The Wrap' -- where suffocated after being tightly covered in blanket.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/341...toddlers-death
Deputies say the boy, identified as Michael Lee McMullen, was routinely disciplined by a method referred to as a "wrap," where he would be wrapped inside a blanket with the ends tied down to prevent him from moving and escaping.
They basically routinely tortured him as punishment ... all the while wondering, "Why can't this damn boy act right?" I can't give a pass to people who tortured a small boy until he died. They heard him hyperventilating and didn't help him. Fucking. Animals.
Meh. Just offering another scenario.
What's the point of a tablet? Seems like they stink.
I can do without savaging the perps, so I'm good.
This makes me want to cry. That poor baby begged to be let out. Ughhhhhh
Ron, you done went full retard, son.
Pretty much every time you read about this kind of death, the people were doing some weird ill-advised shit at best to 'discipline' the kid by smothering them until they shut up.
Watch me be right.
Yep.
Uh, it's still abuse and they were wrong, Ron.
Holy shit. It's like I don't speak English. Did I say let em go since they didn't do anything wrong? I was just saying it's probably more stupid than evil.
Fixed? Not sure I can go with probable, but I'll grudgingly meet you in the middle with possible.
Nope. Sorry. When a kid is wrapped in a shit ton of blankets and hyperventilating and sweating to death, you need to take your foot off the gas peddle and put on the damn brakes.
This was just straight up cruel and I would think anyone with half a brain cell would agree.
I don't think these people were ill advised, I think they are cruel assholes that just didnt give a shit to properly discipline a small child and just wanted him to shut up.
Fuck 'em.
3 babysitters? What the hell is up with 3 babysitters?
Please just give me 5 minutes with these psychos. The hell with blankets, I'll bring plastic bags and duct tape.
Fibro Fog has taken over. I am in a constant state of dyscognition so please excuse my retardation.
'The worst things in the world are justified by belief'- Raised by Wolves SOI
"Your life is short, it's the longest thing you'll ever do/ the worse the curse was that your dreams came true/
God is a mirror in which each man sees himself/ Hell is place where you don't need anyone's help"
~You got to cry with out weeping. Talk without speaking
Scream without raising your voice~
This is clearly a case of people who were too stupid to be raising children. I don't think they intended to kill him. I think they were too duuuuuh-mb to know he could die like that.
Now just LOOK at those mugshots and tell me HOW you can conclude they were stupid?
Yep.
If they put the blanket over the child's face and mouth then they should be charged with murder, stupid is not an excuse.
This type of restraint is called a "bunny burrito" and it's used on nutzo small dogs, cats and rabbits to be able to physically examine and treat them without injury. there is no reason why this should be used on a small child.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
Agreed.
I don't know why calling them dumb translates into "don't charge them with anything."
Yeah... I restrain kids on the reg (well, not right now) and there is no way any of them is going to end up dead. Although they didn't intend to kill them, you gotta know they probably got some sick satisfaction from using that type of punishment.
Suzanne Knight (21) brutally raped and devoured 3 toddlers while on a meth binge before hanging herself Marky69: If those toddlers didnt want to be eaten then they shouldnt of looked so god damned delicious. RIP Suzanne
Obviously I think they should still be charged with murder... Their abusive actions led to his death. I just don't think they planned to kill him.
Yeah, I'm with this.
The media can't seem to agree on the spelling of this little boy's last name.
http://www.news-press.com/article/20...nclick_check=1
Grandma in 3-year-old's smothering death asks to be set free
(Jan. 9, 2014) The grandmother among a trio of caregivers arrested in the October smothering death of a Fort Myers 3-year-old has asked the courts to reduce her bond and let her out of jail.
Michael McMullen's maternal grandmother, Gale Watkins, 57, remains in jail on a charge of aggravated manslaughter of a child along with Michael's step-father, 21-year-old Douglas Garrigus; and family friend 45-year-old Donella Trainor. They remain in jail and have a court hearing later this month. The state attorney's office filed on the charge in November. The trio have pleaded not guilty. A hearing is slated later this month.
Watkins' attorney filed a motion yesterday to reduce her $250,000 bond, saying it was an unreasonable, court records show. Last month, Watkins also wrote a letter to the judge, pledging her innocence and framing herself as a victim of the media and a detective who wanted to "make an example of me and so far it has been that way," court records show.
"I have already lost so much, not just physically and mentally but my home, my lifelong pet (sic) my family memorys (sic) for holidays (sic) I cry in silence each day," she wrote in a Dec. 18 letter. "I would like to go home if I can since (sic) news is still hounding my family, but the detective that did (sic) search spilled my sons (sic) ashes that has been deceased for 15 years and to get counseling with my daughter to grieve this loss of my grandchild."
http://www.news-press.com/article/20...ure-an-anomaly
Smothering death review: Failure an anomaly
(Jan. 10, 2014) The failure to do a background check on a caregiver later accused of manslaughter in the smothering death of a Lee County 3-year-old was an isolated case and does not reflect a system-wide problem, according to an internal review of cases involving more than 300 children.
Michael Lee McMullen died Oct. 19 after being tightly wrapped in blankets as a bizarre form of punishment. Three people in the east Lee County home where he lived after the Department of Children and Families removed him from his mother's care were arrested on charges of aggravated manslaughter of a child -- Michael's maternal grandmother, 57-year-old Gale Watkins; Michael's stepfather, 21-year-old Douglas Garrigus; and family friend 45-year-old Donella Trainor. They remain in jail and have a court hearing later this month.
A DCF review after Michael's death found there was no documentation a background check had been done on Trainor, who had been found guilty of child abuse in Michigan. A case manager and her supervisor with Lutheran Services Florida were fired for not following protocol. Lutheran Services Florida is subcontracted by the Children's Network of Southwest Florida to provide case management in Lee and Charlotte counties after a DCF child abuse investigation is closed.
The death prompted Lutheran Services Florida to review its local cases.
Background screenings had been completed in 100 percent of cases involving all 321 children who had been placed with relatives or non-relatives, stated the findings of the two-month review of case files done by Lutheran Services Florida after Michael McMullen's death. The system first looks for relatives to be caregivers before turning to foster homes, because it's typically less traumatizing for children to live with someone familiar.
"There were no glaring issues if somebody has a child abuse history and a criminal record that would negate them from being placement options," said Chris Card, chief operating officer for Lutheran Services Florida. "It wasn't something that was systemically a flaw in our system."
Sorry to double post ... I didn't finish what I was saying about his name. Some stories have it spelled McMullin and McMullins.
boo hoo to the grandma, Michael lost all that shit plus his life.
"Boo-fucking-hoo" was precisely my reaction.
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