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    Quote Originally Posted by emmieslost View Post
    this is, at least in part, why i was interested in starting this thread and hearing what the guys on the board have to say. i'm curious as to weather men feel like taking some kind of hormonal birth which would leave them unable to spawn would make them feel less 'manly?' or something along those lines. this is why i say i wouldn't trust a man with the birth control on his own unless he already had a child. but, i do know a few guys (sadly) who want kids (as many as possible) and don't take care of the ones they have. it's pretty gross, if you ask me.
    I would say that before I had my son I would have taken a birth control contraceptive. I'd take it now because we don't know if we want another one right now or at all. Of course I don't consider myself as a typical man in my area. I would find it sort of odd for some men to even discuss it. For instance, a couple guys out in the woods hunting and talking about their birth control is almost comical.

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    Male Birth Control: Easy, Effective, Available, and Totally Unheard Of

    The male birth control shot is cheap, effective, and administered in a relatively painless 15 minute outpatient procedure and has been in existence for 25 years. It is currently going into small sample human trials and should be available in the United States in the next 3-5 years. It lasts for ten years and is easily reversible. The story of why it wasn?t available here sooner and how exactly it works medically are important to our health and our continued fight for reproductive rights and equality. Let?s get started.

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    The male birth control shot would involve a 15 minute procedure in which a gel is injected into the vas deferens after a topical anesthetic is applied. This gel renders sperm infertile as they pass from the testes (where sperm is stored and made) to the penis (the sperm dispenser) through the vas deferens. It is biologically safe material and can easily be dissolved if the patient decides they would like to become a dad. The lag time for fertility returning is 2 months or so, which is comparable to the lag time of fertility when women get off of birth control. There are no side effects except slight scrotal swelling at the site of injection. This is a step up from vasectomies that can cause painful pressure and granulomas. The shot would end up being cheaper than the syringe it would be administered with. It wouldn?t change how sex would work for the patient, and they could get it on a week after the procedure. (source)

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    25 years?? 25 years of testing and we have not heard about it until now. 25 years of use in India, on humans, where it was said to be 100% effective and we have not jumped on board until now. I understand that the medical standards in India are not as stringent as the FDA?s standards, so we couldn?t just take their word for it, but come on, couldn?t we have at least gotten started on this a little bit sooner?

    I think that the reason it has taken so long for this shot to make real progress in the Western world is the patriarchy and, surprise!, the special interests of the drug companies.

    Drug companies want something they can sell repeatedly. This shot is a one stop shop ? once the patient gets it they never have to get it again. In theory, if one age group of men all got it, there would be years before there would be another large group of men in need of it. So they continue to push Viagra and focus on women?s birth control, of which there are a dozen varieties all in need of multiple doses. Also, the drug would not make them much money if it costs less than the syringe it?s delivered in. Many experts say that this drug would make a huge difference for young families living in poverty ? if they can limit the size of their family, they have a better chance of getting ahead. Drug companies are not interested in selling one-time use drugs for the sake of charity and The Greater Good. Drug companies want to make money.

    The female birth control that is equivalent to the Vasalgel shot is the IUD. IUDs do not interrupt sex, are easily reversible/removed, and they can stay in up to 10 years. (Unfortunately, they have a lot more potential negative side effects than the vasalgel shot.) But there are many forms of female birth control that can be used for short term and intermediate periods of time ? diaphragms, spermicide, deppo shots, patches, pills, rings, etc.

    Of course there are also condoms, which are both male and female, but male condoms are more commonly used, and therefore the only birth control men use on a regular basis. Culturally, condoms are seen as the only thing that men have to worry about in that department and sometimes they don?t even want to do that. Getting a vasectomy is viewed as something a man only does after he?s had a family, and as something that takes away from masculinity and is painful and embarrassing (despite the fact that it is also a 15 minute outpatient procedure). So I?d like to know where all of the male intermediate forms of birth control? I understand and wholeheartedly appreciate the independence and freedom that birth control gives women. But since the advent of the pill, the scales seemed to have tip in the direction of women having the most options/responsibility. In another completely unjustified dichotomy, women are given all of the responsibility for the policing and consequences of sex, while likewise being policed.

    The attitudes that I am referring to are alive and well, and in the media for everyone to see. The Huffington Post writes: ?One downside ? depending on how you feel about shots ? is that it requires the man receive an injection into the vas deferens with a polymer gel called Vasalgel, after a local anesthetic has been given.? I would like to point out that the procedure they?re describing is identical to that of a vasectomy except for an injection that the patient won?t be able to feel. This is a good time to remind everyone that an anesthetic is a drug that keeps people from feeling pain. So to recap ? same procedure as vasectomy, but injection and no pain. Got it? Okay. Moving on.

    I tripped across this little gem of an article on a website called ?Nerve.? Here there be monsters:

    ?Everyone throw away your condoms, there?s a new birth control for men with a 100% success rate. (Throw away your condoms after you get the procedure.) A new procedure under clinical trials in India is turning out some very exciting results for the not-into-wearing-condoms-male community. (Kind of a large community.) The method works by injecting a polymer gel called Vasalgel into the penis, which then breaks apart the sperm before it can cause, you know, life. The downside: by injected, I mean injected, as in you have to get a needle straight into your jimmy for this to work. Is a small bit of dick-centric pain worth a decade of worry-free sex? (Assuming you haven?t forgotten about the existence of STDs.) That depends on your tolerance for dick pain and your love of barebacking.

    ?Come and get it boys, but don?t forget: a shot straight into your penis.

    Needle. In. Penis.?

    You know what else is physically painful? Giving birth. Getting a depo shot every three months. Getting an HPV vaccine. Getting an IUD inserted. Getting an abortion. Cramps during your period.. Ovarian cysts. Having a miscarriage.

    Welcome to the pain party. But you know what? It?s fucking worth it. Because if the woman you love or the woman you want to have sex with doesn?t want a baby, then she shouldn?t have to have a baby. End of story.

    And let?s not forget to mention, that the shot only prevents the sperm from being able to fertilize the egg. It does not protect against STDs/STIs so condoms are still absolutely necessary to prevent infection. So when ?Nerve? decides it?s cute to make jokes about throwing away all of your condoms, and casually forgetting about the existence of STDs, I despair for birth control equality and fair sexual treatment of women.

    Even worse, the drug companies, combined with misogynistic and horrible behavior, are causing other men to suffer (gasp!). Because in an amazing turn of events, there are a lot of other men in the world who are extremely interested in using this drug because they love their partner, because they want to be responsible, and because they are mature enough to see that these issues are much more important than the pain.

    So I guess what I?m asking for is a little bit of charity and understanding. Charity in the sense that money should not be considered in such an important health issue. And understanding that women have gone through a lot of pain ? I think you can take one for the team. One shot in your dick is a small price to pay for trust, happiness and equality.

    For a more positive and in-depth look at this new drug, check out this article from WIRED.

    http://feminspire.com/male-birth-con...ly-unheard-of/

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    Male birth control might be coming sooner than we think -- and thanks to Reddit, we know something about how it might work.

    Redditor icheissesatch took part in a research trial at The Rockefeller University in 2010 and shared some details about his experience in an August 2013 post.

    According to icheissesatch's post, the trial drug was:
    A male birth control that stops the testes from making sperm... a man-made hormone that is like testosterone, called MENT. MENT causes the body to make less sperm by decreasing the hormones your body needs to make sperm.
    Here are eight things we learned about this male birth control -- from a man who tried it:

    1. The trial drug came in a gel form, which the subject applied to his abdomen every day after showering.

    2. Said gel smells like a mix of hospitals and rubbing alcohol.

    3. It took a few days to start working.

    4. It can take up to nine months for sperm levels to return to their baseline after stopping the drug.

    5. The subject didn't notice any side effects, though he reported feeling "in the mood" a bit more often.

    6. The drug came in a pump bottle, kind of like shampoo.

    7. He had to avoid kids after applying the gel, in case it rubbed off on them.

    8. He thinks men would use it, though it would need to be marketed well. "I do have my fingers crossed that it is received well and it becomes the new standard to share the responsibility of safe sex," icheissesatch wrote.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...paign=healthfb

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    7. He had to avoid kids after applying the gel, in case it rubbed off on them.
    Wtf? So on any other day he would just be wiping his dick and bare stomach all over kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Wtf? So on any other day he would just be wiping his dick and bare stomach all over kids?
    this is exactly what i thought.

    but the bottle should maybe be changed up so kids can't just get into it if it's gonna make them start growing hair in weird places or something...

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    Maybe it works as post-birth control,too.

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    Could This Male Contraceptive Pill Make A Vas Deferens In The Fight Against HIV?

    all the fun with none of the mess? hrmmmm...

    First of all, I won?t apologize for the pun in the title. Secondly, it seems my first male contraceptive article stirred up a lot of controversy about the hypothetical anti-HIV properties of RISUG (shared from a journal named, appropriately, Medical Hypotheses). After speaking with the makers of the U.S. version, they mentioned that although this hypothesis might be a stretch, they?re currently encouraging production of a different male contraceptive that could potentially reduce or eliminate transmission of all semen-borne STDs (including HIV) precisely because of the way it works. Just in case you missed that, they did indeed say all semen-borne STDs.

    Say hello to the ?clean sheets? pill ? another non-hormonal option for male birth control that?s on the horizon in the UK, albeit at a much earlier stage of development than RISUG/Vasalgel. To cut right to the chase, it?s affectionately dubbed the ?clean sheets? pill due to the fact that it inhibits release of any semen whatsoever by relaxing the longitudinal muscles of the Wolffian duct system while still permitting the circular muscles to contract, resulting in a sphincter action of the circular muscles on the lax longitudinal ones so they clamp down on the tubes carrying sperm and semen. Because all fluids are stopped before emission, that means they remain where they are (no retrograde ejaculation into the bladder, etc) and are recycled by the body as naturally as in total abstinence.

    Basically, you get all of the feel-good with none of the mess.

    No mess means no babies. But the bigger ?mess? that?s stopped is transmission of HIV. To quote Elaine Lissner, the Director of Medical Research Programs at the Parsemus Foundation, ?To contraceptive funders, this seems like just another male pill lead in a crowded field, but for HIV transmission prevention, there?s nothing like it.?

    The other good news? There are potentially several different ways this product can be delivered. It?s currently being posited by its two inventors, Drs. Nnaemeka Amobi and Christopher Smith, that a pill taken two to three hours before intercourse would have the effects dissipate within 16-24 hours, not unlike the timing of the ever-popular Viagra. Or the doctors suggest that men could have round-the-clock protection with a small time-release rod implanted just under the skin like Implanon (but without the hormonal drama).

    What?s the bad news? Funding. Right now, with only $300,000 to go, the project is literally a Kickstarter away from the next step in the process. But it?s been sitting that way for over six years now. For a lot of drugs, this is fairly normal because of how uncertain things can be at this stage in the process. But according to Dr. Amobi, he and his colleagues have already ?modified the prototypes and expect greater than 95 percent efficacy? at the start of the next round of testing and ?total inhibition of semen (100 percent) by the end? of that, given that both of the parent compounds are proven to provide the ?dry? effect 100 percent of the time. Then, the FDA approval process could begin with clinical studies on animals and then humans.

    Right now, this little pill is stopped dead in its tracks. The money each year for contraceptive research is limited and most of it goes to female contraceptives. When the economy took a dive recently, the Gates Foundation had their contraceptive development funding literally cut in half and unfortunately, it was male methods that got the boot. Parsemus Foundation has its hands full developing Vasalgel, and USAID would take on this venture if its budget wasn?t being slashed. Beyond that, a surprising percentage of people seem to think that condoms, IUDs, and hormonal birth control will be good enough for all of us forever (shudder). I?m personally horrified that with the current number of prospects, not a single method of male contraception has been supported to market past our current two options: condoms or having a vasectomy.

    Think about that for a moment.

    If you?ll forgive me for this sentence, I think the silver lining here could be HIV. Because as Lissner puts it, ?the yearly funding for HIV prevention absolutely dwarfs the funding for contraceptives.? If HIV prevention groups can get adamant about this pill?s strong possibility of limiting or preventing HIV transmission from men, this research could finally gain some much-needed traction.

    But you know who else can help? You. Right now. If you donate a buck or two right here, this pill WILL move forward to the next crucial step for the first time in over 6 years. It?s that simple. If you don?t, please share this page, sign this petition, and get the word out to people you love. And remember this last quote from Lissner:

    ?It?s not impossible to get a great drug to market, it just takes putting your mind and your money into it.?

    http://techcitement.com/culture/coul.../#.UoTk7HCsiSo

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    Vasalgel, a reversible, non-hormonal polymer that blocks the vas deferens, is about to enter human trials. How will rhetoric change when male bodies become responsible for birth control?

    Vasalgel, a reversible form of male birth control, just took one step closer to your vas deferens.

    According to a press release from the Parsemus Foundation, a not-for profit organization focused on developing low-cost medical approaches, Vasalgel is proving effective in a baboon study. Three lucky male baboons were injected with Vasalgel and given unrestricted sexual access to 10 to 15 female baboons each. Despite the fact that they have been monkeying around for six months now, no female baboons have been impregnated. With the success of this animal study and new funding from the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, the Parsemus Foundation is planning to start human trials for Vasalgel next year. According to their FAQ page, they hope to see it on the market by 2017 for, in their words, less than the cost of a flat-screen television.

    So how does Vasalgel work? It is essentially a reimagining of a medical technology called RISUG (reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance) that was developed by a doctor named Sujoy Guha over 15 years ago in India, where it has been in clinical trials ever since. Unlike most forms of female birth control, Vasalgel is non-hormonal and only requires a single treatment in order to be effective for an extended period of time. Rather than cutting the vas deferens?as would be done in a vasectomy?a Vasalgel procedure involves the injection of a polymer contraceptive directly into the vas deferens. This polymer will then block any sperm that attempt to pass through the tube. At any point, however, the polymer can be flushed out with a second injection if a man wishes to bring his sperm back up to speed.

    read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...tm_campaign=FB

    https://www.facebook.com/Vasalgel

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    The invasive vasectomy may be a thing of the past thanks to a new invention by German inventor Clemens Bimek. The new ?sperm switch? will allow men to turn off and on their fertility by simply flicking a switch inside of the scrotum.
    The sperm switch invention comes as many men try to take personal control of contraceptives instead of relying solely on women. From vasectomy surgery to male contraceptives, men are now being offered more forms of male birth control than ever before. The sperm switch is the latest of these inventions and is designed to allow men to decide if and when sperm reaches the penis during intercourse.

    The Daily Mail reports that men may soon have the option to turn their fertility off and on via a sperm switch invention. Many men are taking birth control into their own hands by opting for male contraceptives and vasectomies. However, a vasectomy is designed to be permanent and is sometimes irreversible. Therefore, men have to weigh the risks associated with the surgery and potential irreversibly with their desire for long-term infertility. However, with the sperm switch, called the Bimek SLV, men would no longer have to choose between long-term contraceptive options and potential infertility in the future, as the device would allow men to turn off and on fertility with the flick of a switch.
    So how exactly does the sperm switch work? According to the German inventor Clemens Bimek, the sperm switch works by diverting the flow of sperm back to the man?s testicles when switched on. The device is slated to be just as effective as a vasectomy without being permanent. If the user decided they would like to become fertile again, the man can simply switch the device off via a switch in the scrotum, and the sperm would again be allowed to be ejaculated.

    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2683442/goo...QrxdAy7JEzW.99

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    With the guaranteed destruction of Roe V. Wade, I don't think I would want to trust my birth control to someone else if I were still able to get pregnant.

    http://time.com/5205524/male-birth-c...afe-effective/

    Promising Male Birth Control Pill Is Safe and Effective, Study Says

    a male birth control pill could be inching closer to reality, according to the results of a small new study presented in Chicago at the annual Endocrine Society meeting. It found that an experimental drug is both safe and effective.

    Researchers who conducted a month-long trial involving 83 men said the once-daily pill lowered hormone levels similarly to other forms of longer-term contraceptives—without signs of testosterone deficiency or excess. The pill, called dimethandrolone undecanoate, or DMAU, is structured similarly to the female pill, according to study author Dr. Stephanie Page. The drug is being developed by the National Institutes of Health (NIH); the group also funded the study, which has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal.

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    I told the doctor "But I pulled out before I came" And the doctor said to me "Do you know what we call people that use the pull out method? ............PARENTS!" LOL my daughter is 34 now :-)

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    Its looking like pretty soon men can get a shot in the penis for 13 childless years but after seeing the way that men react to catheter insertions I would imagine that this is not going to be very popular
    https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/first-...y41gwRIyxY7hfQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaHag42 View Post
    Its looking like pretty soon men can get a shot in the penis for 13 childless years but after seeing the way that men react to catheter insertions I would imagine that this is not going to be very popular
    https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/first-...y41gwRIyxY7hfQ
    Nope. Never!

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