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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-arrested-fbi/


    Larry Mitchell Hopkins, detained on Weapons charges and is listed as a border vigilante according to the FBI.

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    https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/new...il/3564077002/

    LAS CRUCES - The leader of an armed militia group that had patrolled the U.S.-Mexico border in Sunland Park was attacked in the Do?a Ana County Detention Center, county officials confirmed Wednesday morning.

    Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, the leader of the United Constitutional Patriots, is a federal detainee who was being held at the county jail in Las Cruces at the time of the incident.

    Do?a Ana County officials said they're investigating a battery against Hopkins that happened after 9 p.m. Monday, April 22. But they provided few details.

    "Hopkins was given medical attention for non life-threatening injuries," a Do?a Ana County news release states. "He was transferred out of the Do?a Ana County Detention Center under the direction of the U.S. Marshals Service on Tuesday."

    Earlier Monday, Hopkins had appeared in federal court. Hopkins has been charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm in connection to a federal investigation from 2017.

    County officials haven't released the names of the person or people who are suspected of injuring Hopkins in the county jail.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48027190

    The suspected leader of a New Mexico militia group allegedly boasted of plans to assassinate former President Barack Obama, the FBI has said.

    Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, and his group United Constitutional Patriots, also plotted to target Hillary Clinton and billionaire George Soros, according to a tip received by the FBI.

    It is unclear when he allegedly made these comments, which were included in court papers released this week.

    His lawyer has denied the allegations.

    "He says that is categorically false that that's what they were doing," Kelly O'Connell told NBC News. "There was no plan to do any of that."

    Mr Hopkins appeared in court in Las Cruces, New Mexico, on Monday, charged with being a convicted criminal in possession of a firearm and ammunition.

    He was arrested on Saturday, just days after the group hit the headlines for detaining migrants in the desert near the US-Mexico border.

    The small volunteer group argues it is helping US Border Patrol to deal with a surge in migrants crossing America's southern border, but their actions - caught on camera - earned widespread condemnation from civil rights groups and local officials.

    The FBI were apparently first made aware of the group United Constitutional Patriots in 2017.

    According to an affidavit by Special Agent David Gabriel, the FBI received information in 2017 that the Patriots, based out of Mr Hopkins' residence, had about 20 members and was armed with AK-47 rifles, among other firearms.

    "Hopkins also allegedly made the statement that the United Constitutional Patriots were training to assassinate George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, because of these individuals' support of Antifa [a left-wing group]," Mr Gabriel said.

    But Mr O'Connell questioned why it had taken some two years to charge his client. He pointed out that the FBI had searched Mr Hopkins' residence in 2017, and discovered weapons that Mr Hopkins said were owned by his wife, but did not arrest him at that point.

    "If it was that outrageous of a crime, why not lock him up right then?" he said.

    Mr Hopkins now faces up to 10 years in prison, probation and $250,000 (?192,000) in fines, according to the Las Cruces Sun-News.

    Under US law, convicted felons are generally prohibited from possessing firearms, and the FBI states Mr Hopkins has "at least one prior felony conviction".

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    In 1996, Mr Hopkins pleaded guilty to possessing a loaded firearm. In 2006, he was convicted of possessing a weapon and impersonating a police officer in Oregon.

    A detention hearing has been scheduled for next week, and Mr Hopkins remains in custody until then.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...h-antisemitism

    Orthodox Jewish communities in Brooklyn grappling with a measles outbreak say they are now dealing with a second scourge: fear, profiling and antisemitism inspired by the outbreak.

    Incidents have piled up in recent weeks as measles cases continued to rise, community leaders say: a bus driver allegedly refused to stop for a Hassidic man, and then covered her face and shouted “measles” at him when he eventually got on.


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    A flight crew sparked a brief quarantine when they saw an Orthodox Jewish child with mosquito bites and mistook them for measles.

    In other cases, advocates say, business associates have declined to meet people in person and asked to do transactions over the phone. Hassidic passengers have hailed Uber pool rides and seen their fellow passenger get out when they enter the car.

    “There have been many incidents where there have been these antisemitic, biased slurs against members of the community,” said Rabbi David Niederman, president of the United Jewish Organizations of Williamsburg. “It’s like a license to be antisemitic and say what’s on your mind, and you don’t have to hide it.”


    As of 13 May, there have been 498 cases of measles in New York City, according to the city’s health department. Most of the people getting sick are members of the Orthodox community in Brooklyn’s Williamsburg neighborhood and to a lesser extent Borough Park, though a handful of recent cases have happened outside those neighborhoods.

    The mayor, Bill de Blasio, issued an emergency order last month making vaccines mandatory for everyone living in parts of Williamsburg, with $1,000 fines for those who refuse to comply.

    Anti-vaccination activists have targeted the Orthodox community, with handbooks and hotlines touting the supposed dangers of vaccines, which have no scientific basis. The propaganda has spread in a tight-knit community where many people do not have exposure to mainstream sources of information.

    But rabbis and community leaders have united in urging parents to get their kids vaccinated, stressing there is nothing in Jewish teaching that opposes vaccines.

    An analysis by public radio station WNYC found that 3.8% of students were not vaccinated for measles in yeshivas in Williamsburg and Borough Park in 2017, compared with 1% of public school students and 2% of private school students citywide.

    “You’re talking about a small percentage of anti-vaxxers – vocal, obviously organized, entrenched in their position, who do not speak for the vast majority of the community,” said community activist Chaskel Bennett, who helped organize a letter from 500 doctors stressing the need for vaccination.

    “People should not be profiled based on who they are and what they look like,” he said.

    Hassidic Jews have been singled out in part because of their distinctive style of dress, including black hats for men and long skirts for women.

    “Suddenly people are looking askance at a whole community of folks, when the only reason you can target these folks any different from anyone else is they look different,” said David Greenfield, the head of the Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty.

    “You wouldn’t know what an anti-vaxxer in Park Slope looks like, because he or she dresses just like you do,” he said.

    The measles outbreak comes amid a broader spike in antisemitic acts across the city and nationwide. Hate crimes have surged in New York City this year, up 66% compared with the same period last year, according to police statistics released this month.

    The majority of those crimes have been motivated by antisemitism – 82, nearly double the 45 at this time last year.

    There have been no reported crimes where the perpetrators specifically referenced measles, the police commissioner, James O’Neill, said.

    There have been two recent alleged attacks against Jewish men in Williamsburg who have been punched by strangers while walking down the street.

    Last week, a volunteer emergency medical technician with a Jewish ambulance service came to the aid of a non-Jewish resident and was shouted at by bystanders who told him to “go back to Israel”, according to United Jewish Organizations.

    “We’re caught between the anti-vaxxers on one side, and the antisemites on the other,” said Mark Levine, chair of the city council health committee. “We’ve seen a really reprehensible level of rejection directed at Hassidic New Yorkers.”

    The health department closed a Jewish school on Monday for failing to turn over records showing all students are vaccinated. Officials previously closed eight other yeshivas, but those have all been allowed to reopen after coming into compliance.

    Ninety-eight people have been hit with summonses for defying the mandatory vaccine order. Nearly 23,000 children in Williamsburg and Borough Park have been vaccinated since the outbreak began in the fall.

    Alexander Rapaport, who runs the Masbia chain of kosher soup kitchens, was working on a public service announcement with staffers from the mayor’s office to promote vaccination as part of the broader Jewish tradition of caring for the health of neighbors.

    Many New Yorkers, he said, have misinterpreted warnings from public health officials to mean that they need to steer clear of Orthodox neighborhoods.

    “A lot of the traditional antisemitic tropes are that Jews spread disease. It plays into a very old concept. It plays into a stereotype that’s out there,” he said.

    A businessman he knows asked an associate about meeting to pick up a check, and the colleague jokingly wondered if it was safe to allow him in his office, Rapaport said. “Even as a joke, it’s unnecessary. It’s very uncomfortable,” he said.

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/border...r-charity-scam


    The border militia leader was accused of conning cancer patients.

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    https://www.abqjournal.com/1313716/h...gilantism.html

    There is nothing patriotic about holding toddlers at gunpoint. It’s hard to believe that this even needs to be said. But that’s exactly what an armed group of vigilantes calling themselves the “United Constitutional Patriots” … has been doing along the southern border of New Mexico for the past several months. This group, which until recently was squatting on a remote parcel of railroad-owned land near Sunland Park, filming themselves detaining groups of migrants, mostly families with young children, and holding them until Border Patrol arrived on the scene.

    The self-shot footage is disturbing. The UCP members are clad in military-style camouflage, wear masks concealing their identities, and many are armed with AR-15-style semi-automatic rifles with high-capacity magazines. The families are huddled together in the darkness, ordered to sit or kneel in the desert sand under implied threat of violence. In one of the clips … a UCP vigilante trains his flashlight on a pair of migrant men sleeping on the ground and muses, “The only problem is if we shoot on the hill it will be an international crisis. … It would save some time though, wouldn’t it?”

    This kind of vigilantism is not only a disgusting display of xenophobia, it’s a tragedy waiting to happen. It’s easy to see how quickly the situation could devolve into a bloodbath. Should one of these untrained and heavily armed extremists perceive a threat – maybe in the darkness they mistake a cellphone in a migrant’s hand for a gun – and open fire into the densely packed crowd, how many innocent lives might be lost?

    One of the most disturbing aspects of UCP’s illegal detention of migrants on the border is that they appear to have been operating with the full knowledge and tacit approval of U.S. Border Patrol. Indeed, every indication appears to show that U.S. Border Patrol agents actively coordinated with the group’s illegal activities.

    Though the FBI recently arrested the group’s leader, Larry Mitchell Hopkins, on unrelated firearms charges after the ACLU of New Mexico wrote a letter demanding investigation of the group’s activities, little else appears to have been done aside from local police evicting the group from railroad property. Ample video evidence exists depicting UCP members unlawfully detaining families at gunpoint and impersonating federal law enforcement officers by self-identifying to groups of migrants as “policia” or “U.S. Border Patrol.” Yet, U.S. Border Patrol has so far responded with little more than a shrug, and the U.S. Attorney’s Office has provided little indication it intends to take action beyond Hopkins’ arrest.




    We cannot tolerate this kind of lawless thuggery in our state. Just as we would never stand for a private citizen pulling over another driver at gunpoint for speeding, we cannot allow armed bands of civilians to enforce our federal immigration laws. Indeed, vigilantism is responsible for some of the darkest and most evil deeds in our history. One need to look no further than the KKK lynch mobs, the torching of Chinese neighborhoods in LA, and Native American massacres to understand where tolerance of vigilantism leads.

    While we do not contest the right of groups like UCP to conduct legal activities on public lands, the unauthorized detention of migrants cannot continue. The ACLU of New Mexico joins Sens. (Tom) Udall and (Martin) Heinrich in demanding authorities take this threat seriously and investigate potential illegal activities committed by UCP in order to prevent this kind of dangerous and lawless behavior from continuing on our border. The enforcement of federal immigration law belongs solely in the hands of trained law enforcement professionals – not armed vigilantes.

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    https://www.newser.com/story/276333/...ille-no-2.html

    NEWSER) ? Detroit's police chief says officers prevented violence by a neo-Nazi group that wanted to spark "Charlottesville No. 2" during a gay pride festival over the weekend, the AP reports. Chief James Craig said Monday that five people among about 15 white supremacists were legally carrying firearms while they traded barbs with 15-20 counterprotesters during the Motor City Pride festival in downtown Detroit.


    Craig says the department's intelligence sources indicated the group wanted to spark violence similar to the deadly 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Craig says that officers kept the groups separate, and that no injuries occurred. He says members of both groups shouted racial epithets at each other and toward police officers in an attempt to bait them into a violent response. No shots were fired during the confrontation. (Trump defends his Charlottesville comments.)

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    https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/edito...231792448.html

    Guns, gold and genocide.

    Politicians like to flatter Californians by speaking of our state as the land of boundless opportunity, but these were the grim pillars upon which early California was built. We goldwash our history with tales of brave exceptionalism, but California’s tragic past is bathed in the blood of innocent California Native Americans.

    The conquering of this land of dreams transformed it into a hellscape of nightmares for those who lived here for thousands of years before the miners, settlers and dreamers arrived.

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    Political leaders normally gloss over this ugly part of our history, but not Gov. Gavin Newsom. This week, the fifth-generation Californian issued a formal apology to the native people of California for the genocide that marked the birth of the state.

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    “It’s called a genocide,” said Newsom. “That’s what it was. A genocide. No other way to describe it and that’s the way it needs to be described in the history books. And so I’m here to say the following: I’m sorry on behalf of the state of California.”

    The apology was long overdue, yet it likely took many Californians by surprise. While many of us learned about Native Americans in elementary school and probably know the name of a local tribe, we generally don’t learn about the systematic massacres that unfolded on the ground beneath our feet.

    “Many people believe that when the Gold Rush happened, it was an empty landscape,” said Shelly Covert, spokesperson for the Nevada City Rancheria Nisenan. “And it’s not true. California was heavily populated with many, many autonomous different tribes, with their own languages and their own cultures and very old and sophisticated societies … and that was almost completely erased.”

    In the 20 years following the discovery of gold at Sutter’s Mill, 80 percent of California’s Native American population had been wiped out. Disease and displacement killed many, but state militias, the US Army and vigilante groups murdered up to 16,000 California Indians in cold blood. Men, women, children – it didn’t really matter.

    Consider this scene, the massacre of a Nisenan village along the American River witnessed by a Mexican miner named Antonio Coronel near Sacramento in 1849 and recounted in “An American Genocide: The United States and the California Indian Catastrophe” by UCLA historian Benjamin Madley:

    “At first light they surrounded the village and opened fire. What followed was a scene of utter horror. Out came old men, women, children, everyone … running in every direction, even throwing themselves in the river. They were all rounded up and shot down.”

    Prospector Theodore T. Johnson, who was “heading east across the broad Sacramento River Valley in 1849,” described the official policy of the time: “The late emigrants across the mountains, and some Oregon trappers and mountaineers, had commenced a war of extermination upon them, shooting them down like wolves, men, women and children, wherever they could find them.”

    “War of extermination” was the term preferred by John Sutter, who enslaved hundreds of Native Americans and participated in massacres. Today, we honor his memory with schools, streets and a popular tourist attraction.

    Peter Burnett, who served as California’s first governor from 1849-1851, made killing California Native Americans the state’s official policy, saying “That a war of extermination will continue to be waged between the races until the Indian race becomes extinct must be expected.”

    “It is not an exaggeration to say that California legislators also established a state-sponsored killing machine. California governors called out or authorized no fewer than 24 state militia expeditions between 1850 and 1861, which killed at least 1,340 California Indians,” wrote Madley in an essay for the Los Angeles Times. “State legislators also passed three bills in the 1850s that raised up to $1.51 million to fund these operations — a great deal of money at the time — for past and future anti-Indian militia operations.”

    Madley estimates that California’s Indian population fell from 150,000 to 30,000 between 1846 and 1870.

    Nothing can change this bloody history, but Gov. Newsom’s apology – delivered in the form of an executive order – is an important first step toward healing the trauma of this genocide.

    Newsom’s executive order acknowledges the “historical wrongs” carried out against California Native Americans by the state and commends them for “carrying on cultural and linguistic traditions, and stewarding and protecting this land that we now share.” It formally apologizes for these wrongs and establishes a Truth and Healing Council to “clarify the historical record ... in the spirit of truth and healing.”

    What difference can such a late apology make?

    “To hear our governor come out and make an apology was very significant,” said Covert. “It was significant because it felt like the government itself was taking accountability. And we have record of our first California Governor calling for the extinction of the ‘red race,’ and a lot of Indians grow up with that history being part of their identity.”

    “It says a lot to me personally, and a lot to my mom. I showed her a clip on Facebook last night and she actually teared up,” she added.

    Covert said it remains to be seen whether the apology becomes an empty gesture, or whether it will be backed up with actions to make amends for the past. Madley suggested that some form of reparations may be in order to restore the devastating losses suffered by California Native Americans.

    Until then, there are other steps California can take to set the record straight.

    For one, we can teach our children about what happened.

    “Will the genocide against California Indians join the Armenian genocide and the Holocaust in California’s public school curriculum?” asks Madley.

    Then there’s the issue of names like Sutter, Burnett, Fremont, Stanford, Hastings and Carson. These men directly engaged in, or supported, genocide against California Native Americans. We don’t have many Confederate statues in California, yet the names of genocidal killers adorn our streets, schools and cherished institutions.

    It’s time to cancel these purveyors of genocide. Sacramento can lead the way by stripping the shameful Sutter and Burnett names from its public places. We can replace them with names that honor those whose lives and land were stolen to make this place our home.

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    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...qly-story.html


    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...qly-story.html



    An ex-con who wore a “Make America Great Again” hat and spewed hateful rhetoric at a Mexican immigrant before assaulting him in a Manhattan subway station was found guilty Thursday.

    Willie Ames, 49, who barked that Mexicans were “criminals” and stealing jobs before knocking the victim out in the April 2018 incident, was convicted after about a day and a half of deliberations and will be sentenced July 12.


    He was acquitted on attempted assault in the first degree as a hate crime but was convicted of other bias-driven assault counts and aggravated harassment. He faces up to 15 years on the top count but he has a felony record, including for a murder in Virginia, and likely faces additional time because of his violent rap sheet.

    Ames, who was wearing a controversial MAGA red rally cap on the uptown No. 6 train platform in Union Square during the assault, testified last week that he only wore the MAGA hat because he thought it was funny that a black man would promote President Trump’s campaign slogan.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.9ba36526201f

    This spring, camouflaged men armed with AR-15s patrolled America’s border with Mexico, searching for undocumented immigrants crossing into the United States. Identifying themselves as “Border Patrol” and “polic?a,” members of this squadron rounded up and detained hundreds of migrants in New Mexico, including young children. Videos of these roundups circulating online show men clad in military-style fatigues, with official-looking badges, detaining terrified groups of migrants while brandishing firearms.

    The people carrying out those detentions were not U.S. Border Patrol or law-enforcement agents: They were private citizens affiliated with the United Constitutional Patriots (now Guardian Patriots), one of several paramilitary vigilante organizations that have taken it upon themselves to supplement the federal government’s work at the border. That is unlawful — and, what’s more, the federal government’s acceptance of this “help” may itself violate federal law.

    The U.S. Border Patrol apparently has been accepting help from such groups for several years. For example, in a 2016 report from Mother Jones on vigilantism at the border, one Border Patrol agent told a group called the Three Percent United Patriots, “I love having y’all out here, man. It impresses me that you guys come out and do my job for me for no pay at all.” Likewise, a member of the Arizona Border Recon group told ABC News in 2017 that the Border Patrol and other law enforcement agencies “are happy” such groups “assist them.” And the United Constitutional Patriots’ spokesman, Jim Benvie, told the New York Times in April, “we hold [the migrants] until Border Patrol comes. Border Patrol has never asked us to stand down.” Benvie’s group also reportedly has facilitated private efforts led by Stephen K. Bannon and Kris Kobach to build a portion of border wall to supplement federal construction in New Mexico.


    As vigilante conduct at the border has become more and more common, such activity has come under some long-overdue scrutiny: In June, Benvie was indicted on federal charges of impersonating a U.S. Border Patrol agent stemming from the United Constitutional Patriots’ detention activities.

    But Benvie and members of these vigilante groups are not the only ones who appear to be violating federal law. Border Patrol agents and any other federal employees accepting vigilantes’ help may well be violating a federal statute called the Antideficiency Act. That law generally prohibits federal employees from accepting “voluntary services” — that is, services not paid for with federal dollars appropriated by Congress. And that is precisely what these vigilantes are providing.

    [I gave water to migrants crossing the Arizona desert. They charged me with a felony.]


    This ban on accepting voluntary services, along with the act’s other prohibitions against obligating funds without a corresponding appropriation, helps to preserve the constitutional separation of powers: It protects Congress’s power of the purse. Specifically, these provisions ensure that executive branch agencies do not undermine Congress’s appropriations power — and its resulting check on executive branch activity — by augmenting, through outside means, their congressionally approved funding. Federal employees who violate the Antideficiency Act may face criminal penalties, and agencies are required to report violations to Congress. Then, Congress can defend its constitutional prerogatives through oversight or legislation.

    Indeed, the Department of Homeland Security — the Border Patrol’s parent agency — purports to take the Antideficiency Act seriously. So seriously, in fact, that last week, the agency refused private donations of soap, toothpaste and diapers that began pouring in to Border Patrol facilities after news broke that children were being detained in squalid conditions without access to basic hygiene items. A former Customs and Border Protection official explained to the Texas media that, under the Antideficiency Act, the agency could not legally accept those donations: “It’s partially a constitutional thing about Congress controlling the purse and only being able to spend money that Congress gives, but it’s also about ethics. Without a change in law, DHS, CBP and Border Patrol cannot accept those private donations.”

    The Department of Homeland Security must comply with federal law, including the Antideficiency Act, in all situations — not just when compliance suits the administration’s policy preferences. And Congress should be concerned about this end-run around its appropriations power as well. Border funding is a perennially contentious issue, and appropriations packages — including the $4.6 billion spending bill passed this week — typically include at least some limitations on an administration’s actions at the border. By accepting aid from vigilante groups, the Department of Homeland Security not only is potentially violating federal law, but also skirting these limitations and evading congressional oversight. Exploring these matters further is well within the jurisdiction of Congress, as well as the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General.

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    https://theintercept.com/2019/07/07/...ity-extremist/

    Yes the FBI's questionable role in border vigilante.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KambingSociety View Post
    https://theintercept.com/2019/07/07/...ity-extremist/

    Yes the FBI's questionable role in border vigilante.
    You already have your own thread for vigilante shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Good luck with that...I'm having to police the Misogyny thread for the vigilante bullshit.
    I know it, but sociopaths are hard to enforce anything on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumaki15 View Post
    You already have your own thread for vigilante shit.
    Also we need to end due process for people accused of racism. We need death squads to kill the Alt Right, and white supremacists as the saying goes you need to break a few eggs to make an omelette. That means to solve an issue collateral damage would have to take place to get to the intended ideals.

    https://slate.com/human-interest/201...ying-that.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KambingSociety View Post
    Also we need to end due process for people accused of racism. We need death squads to kill the Alt Right, and white supremacists as the saying goes you need to break a few eggs to make an omelette. That means to solve an issue collateral damage would have to take place to get to the intended ideals.

    https://slate.com/human-interest/201...ying-that.html
    Sure thing, sociopath.

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    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/edit...714-story.html

    President Trump’s Twitter feed is a repugnant place, and no one would want the thankless task of having to weed through all his bitter, bigoted ramblings to determine which are the most offensive. But a three-tweet thread early Sunday morning — in which he wrote that the four progressive House Democrats who call themselves “The Squad” should “go back” to the “crime-infested places from which they came” — certainly has to rank among the most disgusting.

    By now everyone in America should realize the threshold problem with what Trump is saying about the lawmakers, all of whom are women of color: Three out of the four — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna S. Pressley of Massachusetts — can’t “go back” to the countries he has in mind because they are, in fact, from here. They were born in the United States, just like Trump himself, making them every bit as American as he is. Only the fourth, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, was born elsewhere; she emigrated from Somalia. And as a naturalized citizen of the United States, she too is as American as he is.

    But Trump doesn’t care about such niceties. Nuance has never been his thing. And in any case, he is not really trying to inform us or to make a reasoned point about anything or to express a fully formed thought of any sort. He is simply spewing as usual, and in the process fanning the flames of disunity, chaos, prejudice and polarization — all cleverly hidden behind a veneer of rote and thuggish patriotism. He is playing to the lowest, most degraded emotions of his supporters while reveling in the fury of his opponents. This is the definition of demagoguery.

    Sadly, it has found a receptive audience.

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    In Trump’s telling, these women who came from such “corrupt” and “crime-infested” countries (although they didn’t) are now lecturing “the people of the United States” about how “our” country is supposed to be run.

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    His unmistakable point is that because some of the lawmakers’ families once lived elsewhere — in countries he would no doubt dismiss as “shitholes” — they are not really Americans like those of us to whom his tweet is directed. It is reminiscent, of course, of his long, cynical campaign to convince people that President Obama was born outside the country.

    But Trump’s family too came from elsewhere. His mother and grandparents were born in Europe. So is he one of “us” or one of “them”?

    In any case, to tell people in this country of immigrants that they should “go back” (in this case to places they are not, in fact, from) is a particularly familiar, childish and bigoted taunt that has been used by know-nothings throughout American history.

    Trump’s burst of tweets hit all the notes: It is xenophobic, it is “othering” in the most obvious sense of the word, it is mean-spirited, it is divisive, and it is factually wrong. He reflexively moves the American civic conversation backward rather than forward. And he revels in the blowback, as evidenced by his tweets Sunday night chastising Democrats for defending their colleagues.

    He is just trolling, as usual. He is just trying to get a rise out of us. He is baiting us. He wants headlines, he spoils for a fight, he is hoping to exacerbate the tensions that have bubbled up between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and these four congresswomen. We shouldn’t rise to his bait, but how can we not? If we ignore him, we normalize his reckless behavior, and that’s even worse.

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    https://patch.com/us/white-house/gra...weekend-tweets

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Latest on President Donald Trump's tweets about four lawmakers of color (all times local):

    9:07 a.m.

    Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham is advising President Donald Trump to "aim higher" following Trump's incendiary weekend tweets about four Democratic congresswomen. Trump had tweeted that they should go back to the "broken and crime infested" countries they came from, even though all of the women are American citizens and three were born in the U.S.

    Graham, a close ally of Trump who golfed with the president over the weekend, offered the advice in an interview with "Fox & Friends" Monday morning.

    He said the lawmakers, including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, "are American citizens" who were "duly elected," and says Trump should "take on their policies" instead of launching personal attacks.

    Still, Graham called the members "anti-Semitic" and "anti-American," saying that "AOC and this crowd are a bunch of communists. They hate Israel. They hate our own country."

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    8:20 a.m.

    A relative of U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib living in the West Bank says President Donald Trump is an anti-Palestinian racist.

    Tlaib, a Michigan Democrat and daughter of Palestinian immigrants, was one of four congresswomen of color who were targeted in Trump's latest Twitter barrage. Trump said the women should go back to the "broken and crime infested" places they came from, ignoring the fact that all are American citizens and three, including Tlaib, were born in the U.S.

    Bassam Tlaib, an uncle of the congresswoman, called the president's comments "a racist statement meant to target Rashida because she is from Palestinian roots."

    He said it "proves that Trump is anti-Palestinian, anti-Islam and completely biased with Israel."

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    8 a.m.

    President Donald Trump is not apologizing for his weekend tweets that four congresswomen of color should go back to the "broken and crime infested" countries they came from. Instead, Trump tweeted Monday that they ought to apologize to him for past remarks about Israel and about him.

    Trump's new tweets came as the White House tried to defend his weekend remarks, widely condemned by Democrats as racist. Marc Short, chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, said Monday that those tweets were aimed at "very specific" comments made by Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, who was born in Somalia, and not as a "universal statement."

    He says: "I don't think that the president's intent any way is racist."

    All four of the congresswomen are U.S. citizens.

    But even as Short spoke, Trump's new tweets Monday referenced "congresswomen," not just Omar. He tweeted "When will the Radical Left Congresswomen apologize to our Country, the people of Israel and even to the Office of the President, for the foul language they have used, and the terrible things they have said. So many people are angry at them & their horrible & disgusting actions!"

    Omar ignited a bipartisan uproar in Washington several months ago when she suggested that members of Congress support Israel for money. Another congresswoman, Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, riled up a supportive crowd by calling the president a profanity and predicting that Trump will be removed from office.

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    12:25 a.m.

    President Donald Trump is shrugging off sharp criticism for tweets branded as racist in which he says four outspoken liberal congresswomen of color should go back to their "broken and crime infested" countries.

    All are U.S. citizens and only one is foreign-born.

    While Democrats have condemned Trump's remarks, Republicans have remained largely silent.

    In a tweet Sunday night, Trump says it is "so sad" to see Democrats sticking up for the women.

    While Trump didn't name the four, he is almost certainly referring to congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. Only Omar, from Somalia, is foreign-born.

    Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in reply, "You are angry that people like us are serving in Congress and fighting against your hate-filled agenda."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KambingSociety View Post
    The stock market continues to rise under the Trump administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S281Saleen160 View Post
    The stock market continues to rise under the Trump administration.
    Awesome. I guess that totally makes up for the fact he's a giant, walking yeast infection.

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    https://abc7ny.com/hate-crime-charge...n-nyc/5413694/

    GLEN OAKS, Queens (WABC) -- Police are investigating a violent attack on a Hindu priest in Queens, and Governor Andrew Cuomo has ordered the state Hate Crimes Task Force to assist.

    Authorities say 62-year-old Swami Ji Harish Changer Puri was dressed in his religious robes when he was attacked on 264th Street near 85th Avenue in Glen Oaks.

    It happened at 11 a.m. Thursday, in broad daylight, just a short distance from Puri's Hindu temple, Shiv Shakti Peeth Temple, at 264-12 Hillside Avenue.

    According to police sources, 52-year-old Sergio Gouveia confronted Puri and said he didn't want him in the neighborhood.

    Puri was struck with an umbrella and punched repeatedly.

    He suffered cuts and bruises to his nose, head, chest, arms and legs, according to police.

    Gouveia was arrested minutes later and charged with misdemeanor assault, harassment and weapon possession.

    However, prosecutors say the investigation is not over and that several local political leaders, including state Attorney General Letitia James, are urging police to file hate crimes charges.

    Cuomo issued the following statement in directing the Hate Crimes Task Force to investigate.

    "I am disgusted by the attack on a Hindu priest in Queens, mere blocks away from the Shiv Shakti Peeth temple. This terrible, inexcusable act of violence is now being investigated as a potential hate crime. Violence of any kind toward others based on their faith or race is offensive to all New Yorkers and repugnant to our values. These hate-fueled acts are meant to incite fear and division within our communities, and we must stand together and disavow this behavior immediately. I am directing the State Police Hate Crimes Task Force to assist the NYPD with their investigation to ensure the individual behind this vile attack is held accountable and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Acts like this are not just disgusting - they are illegal, and we will never allow hate and discrimination to divide us in New York."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumaki15 View Post
    Awesome. I guess that totally makes up for the fact he's a giant, walking yeast infection.
    I could careless about the shit he says. People are working, people are making money, people are saving money or spending money. It's like the Clinton years in the 90's, mos def good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KambingSociety View Post
    I'm surprised he didn't use the good old "my heart and prayers go out to the family".

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    Quote Originally Posted by S281Saleen160 View Post
    I could careless about the shit he says. People are working, people are making money, people are saving money or spending money. It's like the Clinton years in the 90's, mos def good times.
    *Some* are benefitting, & it just means the crash is going to be worse.
    Last edited by blighted star; 08-15-2019 at 02:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    *Some* are benefitting, & it just means the crash is going to worse.
    You make a good point, let me change what I said. Those who want to do better are doing better, there's always going to be some lazy ignorant muthafuckas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S281Saleen160 View Post
    I could careless about the shit he says. People are working, people are making money, people are saving money or spending money. It's like the Clinton years in the 90's, mos def good times.
    Yeah! Let the pres grab your daughters by the pussy because we making money money money y'all! Who cares what he says! Words have never invited violence! Or waged war! Words don't fuel incels! Words have never have the power to foster supremacy! Words are for lazy mother fuckers who don't know how to make money!

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