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    Or having their throat slit in front of their children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I was debating whether or not to bring up the Jodi thread too. But it is relevant!
    I've generally been against the DP for the reason that to me it appears too easy of a punishment. An easy death for someone that caused so much pain and anguish to the victim(s) and their families.
    In the Jodi case, since the victim's family wants the DP so much I have supported that stance as well.
    If you can kill Jodi, you HAVE to kill whoever helped her as well.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    It's a luxury their victims didn't have.
    And they get to pass away quietly while sleeping, not begging for their life while being bludgeoned to death.
    Yes. I think it is too humane for them. It costs more and why do they deserve to never suffer again?

    I'm not for it but I am for worse prisons for hardcore criminals.


    Wournos is fascinating. Her crazy is so crazy she's was almost sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFavoriteDaughter View Post
    Or having their throat slit in front of their children.
    Yea, one of the bigger problems I have with the death penalty is that it's SUCH an easy way out.

    Quote Originally Posted by sogs View Post
    Yes. I think it is too humane for them. It costs more and why do they deserve to never suffer again?

    I'm not for it but I am for worse prisons for hardcore criminals.


    Wournos is fascinating. Her crazy is so crazy she's was almost sane.


    I just watched Monster a few days ago. I own the DVD. Fucking love that movie.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    If you can kill Jodi, you HAVE to kill whoever helped her as well.
    If Jodi wanted to implicate someone that helped her, she would have a long time ago. Since she decided to "take all the blame" for the crime, I guess she needs to be punished by herself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    What is that Sneaks?
    The Innocence Project is a non-profit legal organization that is committed to exonerating wrongly convicted people through the use of DNA testing, and to reforming the criminal justice system to prevent future injustice. The Innocence Project was founded in 1992 by Barry Scheck and Peter Neufeld.

    http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/

    DNA Exoneree Case Profiles

    There have been 310 post-conviction DNA exonerations in United States history. These stories are becoming more familiar as more innocent people gain their freedom through postconviction testing. They are not proof, however, that our system is righting itself.

    The common themes that run through these cases — from global problems like poverty and racial issues to criminal justice issues like eyewitness misidentification, invalid or improper forensic science, overzealous police and prosecutors and inept defense counsel — cannot be ignored and continue to plague our criminal justice system.


    Eighteen people had been sentenced to death before DNA proved their innocence and led to their release.

    The average sentence served by DNA exonerees has been 13.6 years.

    About 70 percent of those exonerated by DNA testing are people of color.

    In almost 50 percent of DNA exoneration cases, the actual perpetrator has been identified by DNA testing.

    Exonerations have been won in 35 states and Washington, D.C.

    The Innocence Project was involved in 171 of the 310 DNA exonerations. Others were helped by Innocence Network organizations, private attorneys and by pro se defendants in a few instances.
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    Monster was hard to watch. Made me very sympathetic for her.

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    This thread is fascinating - will be checking it often.

    Me, I'm on the fence as far as DP goes - and being in Canada makes it different as there is not DP here.

    But like many others - lay a hand on a child of mine and I can promise, I will hope for the worst of the person who did it.


    Part of the secret of success in life is to eat what you like and let the food fight it out inside. - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFavoriteDaughter View Post
    Monster was hard to watch. Made me very sympathetic for her.
    Haha just like a Rorschach test I guess. That shit made me glad she was dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    If Jodi wanted to implicate someone that helped her, she would have a long time ago. Since she decided to "take all the blame" for the crime, I guess she needs to be punished by herself.



    Yea, and I killed Lincoln and Hoffa.

    ETA: Damn, folks don't know the Innocence Project!?!? That makes me sad.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    If Jodi wanted to implicate someone that helped her, she would have a long time ago. Since she decided to "take all the blame" for the crime, I guess she needs to be punished by herself.

    Better find Matt M and bring him in for questioning....haha!


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Has anyone here done any reading on the Innocence Project?
    I have. They investigate and attempt to exonerate people believed wrongly convicted who were sentenced to die.

    http://www.innocenceproject.org/


    What they have done for these people is nothing short of extraordinary. Again, if you did the crime, I'm all for you frying until burned to a crisp. But if you didn't, you don't deserve to spend one moment behind bars for it.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    [QUOTE=Ron_NYC;3461169]
    Quote Originally Posted by kevansvault View Post
    I have. They investigate and attempt to exonerate people believed wrongly convicted who were sentenced to die.

    http://www.innocenceproject.org/


    What they have done for these people is nothing short of extraordinary. Again, if you did the crime, I'm all for you frying until burned to a crisp. But if you didn't, you don't deserve to spend one moment behind bars for it.
    Anyone interested should read about Ronald Cotton, there is a book about his case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post

    Anyone interested should read about Ronald Cotton, there is a book about his case.
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/589

    So fucked up.

    Related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-race_effect
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    [QUOTE=Sneakers the Wonder Dog;3461187]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post

    Anyone interested should read about Ronald Cotton, there is a book about his case.
    The innocence project does amazing work. Really chilling to think how many death row prisoners they have been able to exonerate.
    Again MY major issue with the death penalty is how biased it is, and how final!! Im never that sure of anything....
    What was Ronald Cotton's deal?
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    [QUOTE=Sneakers the Wonder Dog;3461187]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post

    Anyone interested should read about Ronald Cotton, there is a book about his case.
    [QUOTE=Monter;3461202]
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post

    The innocence project does amazing work. Really chilling to think how many death row prisoners they have been able to exonerate.
    Again MY major issue with the death penalty is how biased it is, and how final!! Im never that sure of anything....
    What was Ronald Cotton's deal?

    Picking Cotton: Our Memoir of Injustice and Redemption

    ennifer Thompson was raped at knifepoint by a man who broke into her apartment while she slept. She was able to escape, and eventually positively identified Ronald Cotton as her attacker. Ronald insisted that she was mistaken-- but Jennifer's positive identification was the compelling evidence that put him behind bars. After eleven years, Ronald was allowed to take a DNA test that proved his innocence. He was released, after serving more than a decade in prison for a crime he never committed. Two years later, Jennifer and Ronald met face to face-- and forged an unlikely friendship that changed both of their lives.
    In their own words, Jennifer and Ronald unfold the harrowing details of their tragedy, and challenge our ideas of memory and judgment while demonstrating the profound nature of human grace and the healing power of forgiveness.

    http://www.amazon.ca/Picking-Cotton-.../dp/0312599536
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monter View Post
    The innocence project does amazing work. Really chilling to think how many death row prisoners they have been able to exonerate.
    Again MY major issue with the death penalty is how biased it is, and how final!! Im never that sure of anything....
    What was Ronald Cotton's deal?
    Am I on ignore?
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Am I on ignore?
    Never. I will check out that book, though. Sounds very interesting.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevansvault View Post
    Never. I will check out that book, though. Sounds very interesting.
    They have appeared on numerous shows to discuss as well. Search their names on YouTube - some great interviews there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Am I on ignore?
    No butthead we just cross posted
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    Call me gangster, but I believe in eye for an eye. Clearly the system has to be updated in terms of punishment without irrefutable evidence. But, I don't think people who kill with intent should be alive. They serve no purpose in life.


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    My biggest issue is also the fear that someone innocent is put to death. Or someone with mental illness or a diminished mental capacity.

    However, when someone is literally caught red-handed, I tend to be more pro-DP.

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    I would be more willing to put a repeat pedophile to death than someone that robbed a gas station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFavoriteDaughter View Post
    I would be more willing to put a repeat pedophile to death than someone that robbed a gas station.
    Well, I don't think people get death for robbery.

    Unless a death stemmed from that robbery. And then, I am not so sure where I stand. I want to bring it back down to an eye for an eye, but there really is no solution in those thinking terms.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFavoriteDaughter View Post
    I would be more willing to put a repeat pedophile to death than someone that robbed a gas station.
    Castration. Repeats again, then death.

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    That's what I meant. A death that resulted from a robbery.

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