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    Justice Williams (9) hanged herself from a shower rail because she was depressed over the birth of a sibling

    THE 9-YEAR-OLD Bronx girl who hanged herself from the shower in her family?s home may have been motivated to take her life by jealous resentment of her newborn brother.

    Justice Williams had been struggling to adjust to her role as a big sister after her mother, Tamiqua Torres, gave birth to a little boy eight months ago, according to Torres? parenting blog.

    Torres, 31, found her daughter?s lifeless body hanging from the shower?s metal frame in the family?s Wallace Ave. home about 9:30 p.m. Sunday.

    The girl told family members she ?wanted to die? when she learned her mom was expecting, according to sources.

    Williams went to a therapist for help ? and the family believed she?d gotten over her distress, sources said.

    Justice Williams had recently gone to a therapist for help dealing with the birth of new half-sibling, sources said. ?We were as happy as happy could be until one day my then-8-year-old woke up and decided that she wasn?t exactly thrilled about being a Big Sister,? Torres wrote in January.

    She married Justice?s stepfather, Raymond Torres, in 2011.

    Torres blogged that Justice warmed up to her brother after his birth, however, and grandfather Wardel Fenderson said he never saw any conflict.

    ?It?s an unforeseen tragedy,? Fenderson, Tamiqua Torres? father, said Monday. ?I?m feeling like a block of ice. I?m numb.?

    He called his daughter a ?fantastic? mother who has ?nothing but love? for her kids. ?No mother should ever have to bury a child,? said Fenderson, 54.

    The medical examiner ruled Williams? death a suicide Monday.



    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2Q0WomlCY


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    i really hope her baby brother doesnt grow up with some sort of feeling responsible for this complex :(

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    My brother tried to commit suicide around this age when my parents adopted me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by of_corpse_not View Post
    My brother tried to commit suicide around this age when my parents adopted me.
    WHOA WHAT!?!?
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    WHOA WHAT!?!?
    I just found out the other day. My brother was 8 when I was adopted & he tried to commit suicide over it at age 10. I don't know how he tried but that's what my oldest brother told me. I always wondered why my brother was so mean to me & now it makes sense, I stole the attention. I'm 27 now & he still hates me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by of_corpse_not View Post
    I just found out the other day. My brother was 8 when I was adopted & he tried to commit suicide over it at age 10. I don't know how he tried but that's what my oldest brother told me. I always wondered why my brother was so mean to me & now it makes sense, I stole the attention. I'm 27 now & he still hates me.
    Yea, I'm an only child so I can understand where he's coming from, sorry. That sucks for you though. You didn't mean to steal the attention, but I'm sure you did.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Wow, most kids are happy to get a baby bro or sis. rip Justice.
    I know when i had my second boy my 9 year old son was jealous but would never kill himself because of it.
    One day i was changing his diaper and i ran to grab powder and all of a sudden i heard my little one cry out and came in to see that my older boy bit his little ass. I was so mad but i made him tend to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown Bitch View Post
    Wow, most kids are happy to get a baby bro or sis. rip Justice.
    I know when i had my second boy my 9 year old son was jealous but would never kill himself because of it.
    One day i was changing his diaper and i ran to grab powder and all of a sudden i heard my little one cry out and came in to see that my older boy bit his little ass. I was so mad but i made him tend to him.
    WHAT!?!?!
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    I was two when my brother was born. I tried to kill him on more than one occasion. I'd club him in the head, smother him. I even tried to push him in front of a car when he was 2. It never occurred to me to off myself. Just him.

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    I pushed my brother off a set of stairs when he was two and broke his arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peavey View Post
    I was two when my brother was born. I tried to kill him on more than one occasion. I'd club him in the head, smother him. I even tried to push him in front of a car when he was 2. It never occurred to me to off myself. Just him.
    Ha, that's the spirit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    I pushed my brother off a set of stairs when he was two and broke his arm.
    Yea, this shit seems much more typical than BB's "who doesn't want a little brother/sister" attitude.

    ETA: Shit, I just remembered hating babies cause they took attention from me. I punched a baby when I was 2-3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    My sister used to throw Daddy Long Legs on me when I was still in a walker (9m or so)

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    I am maybe horrible for thinking this, but this kid sounds like a fucking asshole. I'll kill myself rather than share attention? Darwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    I am maybe horrible for thinking this, but this kid sounds like a fucking asshole. I'll kill myself rather than share attention? Darwin.
    Is it good to think at least he didnt' kill his sibling? Yikes.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    When I was 9 I was pretty stupid emotionally and thought all kinds of dramatic, bratty things. Honestly, I don't think this kid even realized the extent of what she was doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Is it good to think at least he didnt' kill his sibling? Yikes.
    That was my first thought when I read this story. And my second thought was that it's good she killed herself before she turned into a version of Jodi Arias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    That was my first thought when I read this story. And my second thought was that it's good she killed herself before she turned into a version of Jodi Arias.
    That is kind of a shitty thing to say about a kid.. she was only 9. Do you remember being 9? The world was ending almost daily.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    That was my first thought when I read this story. And my second thought was that it's good she killed herself before she turned into a version of Jodi Arias.
    Bring an accomplice and kill some dude she's banging?
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    I may have thought the world was ending everyday at 13 but at 9 all I wanted to do was go outside and play.

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    I see we have made progress with our theories. I'll take it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2Love View Post
    I may have thought the world was ending everyday at 13 but at 9 all I wanted to do was go outside and play.
    I don't know, puberty was starting round then. You have all these emotions and feelings and none of them make any sense. 13 you're more in a position to understand what is going on with your body and actually use it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    That is kind of a shitty thing to say about a kid.. she was only 9. Do you remember being 9? The world was ending almost daily.
    She was a disturbed child who was going to bring misery to everyone around her. So I say it's good that she's dead -- even though she's a child.

    I don't think she actually meant to die. She probably was planning to have it be a dramatic moment where her mom was so supposed to find her preparing to do it or to find her in time before she died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Bring an accomplice and kill some dude she's banging?
    Whichever version of Jodi's story you believe, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    She was a disturbed child who was going to bring misery to everyone around her. So I say it's good that she's dead -- even though she's a child.

    I don't think she actually meant to die. She probably was planning to have it be a dramatic moment where her mom was so supposed to find her preparing to do it or to find her in time before she died.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Thank you for noticing.

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