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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Back again, got reading caught up. I seriously am holding my breath that LV returns today. I think nerves are getting the best of her despite the fact she's trying to not let it show. This can lead into physical symptoms, some of which she used to have under control.
    I'm wondering if she is now not so stoic in her beliefs about Jodi. She can see Jodi sitting there writing merrily away and not showing any emotions, sees her glancing at the jury, then writing again. Seeing Jodi in court is not like the 1 on 1 interviews she had with her while Jodi told her stories so convincingly. LV can't pull out now, she must go on I would think.
    I don't doubt that ALV's nerves could be making her sick. I said yesterday that it was probably because she knew that Juan was up next. After saying that, I realized something. If she kept the admonition, she would not know his questioning style other than Palen and Nurmi telling her, correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I guess it's how you interperate this. I see it that she loves him, but wishes she could cut the feelings off.
    I'm inclined to think that too. If we were to read that entry and Stabby wasn't on trial for murder in the first, that would more than likely be dismissed as a woman that deeply loves a man, not obsessive, but when you put it all together with her other actions, the tune changes.

    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Yeah, I don't believe any of her diary entries. Most of them read to me like she's writing them- expecting somebody to read them. If you compare diary post to text messages on the same day-most do not add up.

    For example: Alyce said this yesterday about a diary post: Jan 22, 2008- Jodi comes back. She can't loan him anymore money. He throws her to the floor. Then he kicks her, then kicks her a second time and breaks her finger. Travis leaves the room. Jodi wondered if Travis was getting a weapon, But Travis comes back and splints Jodi's finger.

    But yet the text message on Jan 22, 2008-
    1-22-08
    Jodi: Did u make the deposit?
    Travis: yes
    Jodi: Thank you! I'll make it up to u soon.
    Jodi: I'm gonna need a ride! I'm off at 4pm. Txt me.
    Jodi: Scratch that. The're keeping me her til 5pm! (can you pick me up then? The lunch offer from my vmail still stands.
    Travis: Sure.
    Jodi: I'm almost off. Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the counter.

    See what I mean? Her text message proves her diary is lying. Personally, I think all the diary evidence is crap, and I think it should never have been allowed. Plus, it's stupid. Jodi writes in her diary, like she talked on the stand. Endless babble.


    I'm glad to see that I didn't miss anything with Alyce yesterday. I'm cutting her some slack about being sick, b/c she very well may be sick. Maybe she's on dialysis or has diabetes??

    I do wish the court would move this along. Maybe assign the judge's cases somewhere else, and lets get 5 days of the full 8 hours of court. 3 hours of court for 3 days is crazy. If they can't do 5 days, maybe a full 8 hours for 3 days!
    If they keep farting around, I'm scared we are going to have more problems with the jury.

    I couldn't ever follow the Laws of Attraction. No insult meant, but it sounds like a bunch of BS. If I'm pissed off at the hubby, I don't need to write crap down. I'm going to tell him.

    I don't have much of an opinion on Jodi's mom. She's the mom, and she doesn't want to see her daughter put to death. It may help her function better to believe Jodi had a valid reason to kill somebody. Wouldn't be the first time a parent supported a murderer. Ever watch that show "Disorder in the courtroom? Sometimes they show families having a huge fist fight in court or outside the court.
    Berm, great post like always. I surely hope Juan sews this up into a tapestry on cross.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post

    Perhaps the title should read: 1000 Places To See After You Murder Your Ex
    I would copyright that pronto! priceless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Thanks for links!
    anytime ;) let me know if you hear about jury questions basket will you? I've seen no questions but then heard Jean C yapping about she's only seen a 'few' (but we know she isn't a trustworthy source) She also said she saw killer shaking .. amazing since she sits in the last row of the gallery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    The defense started their case on day 10 of the trial. Witnesses for the defense have been: Gus Searcy, Daryl Brewer, Lisa Andrews Dadoni, Desiree Freeman, Dan Freeman, and Lonnie a computer expert. Jodi took the stand on Day 13.
    No kidding, the Freemans and Lisa were supposed to be defense witnesses!
    Wow listed like that really hits home that i also thought defense hadn't brought that many people! Especially Lisa's testimony in the end, but then how much really could she give good tid bits for Jodi, when really she didn't know her that much? I imagine she knew more about Jodi from Travis and i'm guessing gossip that may have been floating about.

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    I apologize if this has already been discussed, but the whole defense witnesses on the stand have caused me to tune out of the trial. I can only hear so much bullshit about Jodi's fake cries of abuse.

    I asked on FB but wasn't quite sure exactly what the deal was. Why was juror 5 dismissed exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    I apologize if this has already been discussed, but the whole defense witnesses on the stand have caused me to tune out of the trial. I can only hear so much bullshit about Jodi's fake cries of abuse.

    I asked on FB but wasn't quite sure exactly what the deal was. Why was juror 5 dismissed exactly?
    We don't know exact reason but Dee Stress found this yesterday:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Stress View Post
    Speaking of Sandy Arias. Is it known that she personally cried juror misconduct on information she was 'told' of? I was unaware of this, apologies if it was mentioned previous thread. FkSake! It's like open season on who's gonna hit the 'jackpot'

    SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
    MARICOPA COUNTY
    CR2008-031021-001 DT 01/15/2013
    Docket Code 012 Form R012 Page 3
    1:31 p.m. Court reconvenes with Defendant and respective counsel all present in
    Chambers.
    Court Reporter, Barbara Stockford, is present.
    Case agent, Detective Flores, is present.
    Sandy Arias is present and informs the Court she was told information regarding possible
    juror misconduct. Sandy Arias leaves Chambers.

    Discussion is held as stated on the record. Each Juror will be brought in individually and
    questioned.
    Juror # 12 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 12 returns to the jury room.
    Juror # 15 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 15 returns to the jury room.
    Juror # 4 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 4 returns to the jury room.
    Juror # 17 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 17 returns to the jury room.
    Juror # 5 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 5 returns to the jury room.
    Juror # 18 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 18 returns to the jury room.
    Juror # 9 is present and private Voir Dire proceeds.
    Juror # 9 returns to the jury

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...dfoom.SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZO
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    Sorry, forgot part of my reply.

    The defense claimed Juror 5 made improper comments to other members of the jury with regards to the "heinous nature" of the crime.
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    Good morning everyone! I guess the witness had from both ends yesterday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Sorry, forgot part of my reply.

    The defense claimed Juror 5 made improper comments to other members of the jury with regards to the "heinous nature" of the crime.
    I wonder what they constituted as "improper." You would think that there wouldn't be anything wrong with the jury discussing the case amongst themselves, you know?

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    "Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    The defense started their case on day 10 of the trial. Witnesses for the defense have been: Gus Searcy, Daryl Brewer, Lisa Andrews Dadoni, Desiree Freeman, Dan Freeman, and Lonnie a computer expert. Jodi took the stand on Day 13.
    No kidding, the Freemans and Lisa were supposed to be defense witnesses!
    That's true, thanks. I had forgotten about the Freemans, and Creepy Gus. Still not much in the way of character witnesses for the defense, NO family members...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    I wonder what they constituted as "improper." You would think that there wouldn't be anything wrong with the jury discussing the case amongst themselves, you know?
    Jury isn't supposed to discuss the case amongst themselves or anyone else until after closing arguments and Judge issues jury instructions after which they are sent to deliberate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peavey View Post
    Just popping in to remind people to stay on track with the decent dialogue today. It seems that the reminders help.

    No bashing, name calling, homophobia, or mini-modding, please.

    We're loathe to lock the thread. If folks can't get along, they'll be getting a break from MDS. I know a lot of you are truly passionate about this case and the trial. Just keep it cool. And for those of you that are, a sincere thank you!

    Sorry for calling Alyce names yesterday.
    Last edited by nestlequikie; 04-04-2013 at 08:26 AM. Reason: Removed the re-run of the name-calling from yesterday. Not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Hey did you catch this little longer version without it cut up? http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...tapes-released
    Dad: She [Jodi] has not been honest with us since she was 14(1994).

    I said she's been crazy for a year -- it's been longer than that.

    I do know that she called me hysterical ... she snuck up in his house and looked in the window and saw him there on the coach with another woman. And here she was planning on marrying this guy.


    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
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    I'm a dude & don't really care but ...... Juan, put down the Grecian Formula!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    That's true, thanks. I had forgotten about the Freemans, and Creepy Gus. Still not much in the way of character witnesses for the defense, NO family members...
    I don't think family members/friends usually talk to much until the sentencing phase.

    I'm sure if Jodi is found guilty-we will have to hear endless babble about how wonderful Jodi is and how she's worth saving from death. That's where the latin lady comes in at (sorry, I can't remember her name, but she is the mig. specialist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    I don't think family members/friends usually talk to much until the sentencing phase.

    I'm sure if Jodi is found guilty-we will have to hear endless babble about how wonderful Jodi is and how she's worth saving from death. That's where the latin lady comes in at (sorry, I can't remember her name, but she is the mig. specialist)
    I hope you feel better sister Berm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    ...As for the journal entries Wilmott is using to show that Jodi had no jealousy toward Travis at all, only love, all Martinez has to do on cross is show the entry for June 9, 2008 where she wrote "OMG I just found out Travis is dead! WHO could have done such a thing?" (paraphrasing.) She wrote that lie in her own journal! So the journal is out the window too as credible evidence too, leaving basically nothing.

    I don't think the DT ever thought they had a chance at selling self-defense but they gave it their best shot. Nurmi has looked totally defeated and checked-out for weeks. Wilmott seems to be into it though...

    But seriously, who writes lies in their OWN DAMN JOURNAL??!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    Silly thought kept coming to mind during ALV's testimony. What's JM supposed to do - cross examine Jodi's journals? Never saw anything like this crap in all of my trial watching. ALV is some kind of interpreter of writings? It's beyond ridiculous.
    See my post from earlier...the journal cross-examines itself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    looks like a BAD DYI dye job there Juan... I'd stick with the "distinguished gray" look

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    Silly thought kept coming to mind during ALV's testimony. What's JM supposed to do - cross examine Jodi's journals? Never saw anything like this crap in all of my trial watching. ALV is some kind of interpreter of writings? It's beyond ridiculous.
    I've never seen anything like this testimony. I was floored when she started talking about what the Hughes's meant in their emails. What? How in the hell can she be allowed to testify as an expert witness what those two friends really meant to say? I guess Juan puts them on the stand. No?

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    DIY that is...

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    I'm calling it now. Trial cancelled today. I'm just sayin!

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    Just got to the #JodiArias courtroom. Wow, it's packed full of lawyers, inmates and family. Judge is hearing many other cases at the moment.

    Willmott just showed up in a nice light purple jacket with a black skirt. He hair has salmon colored highlights

    Nurmi just rolled in with his dark grayish brown suit with tan colored shirt and tie. He is whispering with Willmott

    No sign of Alyce yet. Juan should stroll out any moment now. Still a busy court room full of unsentenced inmates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    WildAboutTrial‏@WildAboutTrial7m
    Just got to the #JodiArias courtroom. Wow, it's packed full of lawyers, inmates and family. Judge is hearing many other cases at the moment.

    Willmott just showed up in a nice light purple jacket with a black skirt. He hair has salmon colored highlights

    Nurmi just rolled in with his dark grayish brown suit with tan colored shirt and tie. He is whispering with Willmott

    No sign of Alyce yet. Juan should stroll out any moment now. Still a busy court room full of unsentenced inmates.
    You would think if it were cancelled they would have let everyone know by now. Alyce would know if she's too sick to show up.

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    On HLN they are showing the seal, expecting a start in 20 minutes. They did not say if anyone has seen ALV or anyone else. I imagine their movements are all within hidden corridors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    I'm calling it now. Trial cancelled today. I'm just sayin!

    shhhhh...don't jinx us please

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