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    Jodi wasn't too into talking to that lady detective. I wish that detective would have allowed for some LONG pauses. She talked and talked and talked. However, Jodi was far more into talking to Flores anyway. Good grief those tapes were brutal to listen to.

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    I didn't care for Lady Detective either. Was interesting to see the change in demeanor when Jodi was talking for Flores as opposed to Lady Detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    "Nov 26, 06- Travis baptized Jodi and they had anal afterwards"

    Is there confirming evidence from someone other than Jodi that this actually happened?
    Well, I definitely think they were into role playing and being kinky. Travis talks about pounding it in her ass-and he talks about how he loved doing it before.

    Can I say for sure they were doing anal? No. But I believe it's true.

    Now did it happen right after he baptized her? IDK. One thing about Jodi- she says a story, but her story never matches up with text or diary entries or other events that were going on that day. Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Well, I definitely think they were into role playing and being kinky. Travis talks about pounding it in her ass-and he talks about how he loved doing it before.

    Can I say for sure they were doing anal? No. But I believe it's true.

    Now did it happen right after he baptized her? IDK. One thing about Jodi- she says a story, but her story never matches up with text or diary entries or other events that were going on that day. Never.
    I think she's lying about the after baptism sex-but idk y she would. It makes her look just as bad as him?

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    I apologize for the double post. Since she was busted on the stand admitting that she enjoyed the sex I don't get how this expert witness can say she was sexually manipulated. She asked for an "ass pounding" for gods sakes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    No, I am so sorry. I wanted to tell you to just watch the beginning. WTF is she eating though? She picks it up and shoves it into her mouth really fast. Just seemed weird to me.
    I think they probably got her some lunch. I haven't watched 16 yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Jodi wasn't too into talking to that lady detective. I wish that detective would have allowed for some LONG pauses. She talked and talked and talked. However, Jodi was far more into talking to Flores anyway. Good grief those tapes were brutal to listen to.
    Quote Originally Posted by AntBubsy View Post
    I didn't care for Lady Detective either. Was interesting to see the change in demeanor when Jodi was talking for Flores as opposed to Lady Detective.
    Her demeanor, her voice - the whole act changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    I think she's lying about the after baptism sex-but idk y she would. It makes her look just as bad as him?
    Because she can. Also because Stabby doesn't have the real feelings/emotions that normal people have. It's why she has no boundaries, compassion, empathy etc. She can only try to mirror what she sees/observes in other people.

    Stabby observes other peoples reactions the way a scientist observes a bug under glass

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    I believe she's motioning to that assistant of Nurmi and Willmott's.

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenstein View Post
    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Hooray we are back on the JA thread!

    Last night I watched the first unedited video below(Covers the unedited interrogation videos 1-5). It is so clear from the gate that she does not respond like a human being, ever. She doesn't cry, show fear, and she sure never shook all over after being told that she was the murderer.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...m_hp_ref=crime


    Now, I am going to go count how many times she asks to see the crime photos of Travis in the other vids.
    Last edited by poppy213; 03-30-2013 at 05:23 PM.

    "Satisfaction of ones curiosity is one of the greatest sources of happiness in life" Linus Pauling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    I believe she's motioning to that assistant of Nurmi and Willmott's.
    Disco Donna, the mitigation specialist? Maybe. She looks like she's up to something...again
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    Dear MDS

    Oh MDS, please don't burn us.
    Don't grill or toast Your flock.
    Don't put us on the barbecue
    Or simmer us in stock.
    Don't braise or bake or boil us
    Or stir-fry us in a wok.
    Oh, please don't lightly poach us
    Or baste us with hot fat.
    Don't fricassee or roast us
    Or boil us in a vat,
    And please don't stick Thy servants, MDS
    In a Rotissomat.


    In other words Thank You!

    Now, down to business:

    Posted this on eyes for lies blog a few months ago. Thought it might be interest some of you:

    It is very interesting to me that Jodi set up a blog spot on this site [blogger.com] 13 days after Travis set up his. Also, the timeline suggests that Jodi had moved back to Yreka CA from Mesa AZ. My observation alerted me to two specific blog entries. On April 14th 2008, Travis writes a blog entitiled "Why we are here...." http://travisalexander.blogspot.co.uk/ in which he quotes an excerpt from Marianne Williamson's 'A Return to Love'. 15 days later, April 29th 2008, Arias writes a blog entitled 'Awaken' where she uses the exact quotation from the same author. http://jodiarias.blogspot.co.uk/

    Where as Travis' entries have some depth, insight and reflection, and he draws on personal experience many times, Aris' entries lack all these qualities. As oppose to Travis' they are very articulate and grammatically correct, but without depth and even meaning at times. She uses no personal information or experience. In my opinion, this is indicative of someone who is pretending to have depth, and, of course, mimicking the one person the blog is designed to impress.

    From all I have seen so far, especially from the police interrogation interviews, Arias is a true psychopath. There are moments where she has been caught on film with an air of arrogance and self satisfaction, that have made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!

    Good to see Y'all!

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    After watching her in court and on the interrogation tapes, she is constantly being uber sneaky and nosy. Makes me think this behavior is so utterly ingrained. She has never gotten anything honestly or in good faith. I imagine she has likely rifled through the private business of anyone she's ever known, either for her own benefit or at the detriment of someone else. I've come across a few people in my life with this trait, and they literally suck you dry. (ah...don't know if pun intended or not!)
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    The Diagnostic Significance of Jodi’s Unique Ability to Lie

    Ms. Arias, compared to the normal individual, has a unique ability to lie. She lies, not always but always when it benefits her. It is the manner in which she lies which is the most revealing. A review of her video interviews will clearly demonstrate this. We first must recognize as we watch those videos, that she knows that she is lying. We don’t have to judge whether or not what she is saying is true because she has admitted that everything she said, in those interviews, was a lie. In the interviews she appears to be calm, serene, witty and charming. Wit and charm are characteristics of an individual with antisocial personality disorder. Both the wit and charm are used to manipulate others. Manipulating others is also characteristic of the antisocial.

    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/diagn...-two-of-three/

    Diagnosing Jodi Arias: Part Three of Three

    Persons with BPD have great difficulty moving out of their home and into the world, alone. For instance, they oftentimes have great difficulty moving away to college. They often will struggle, return and then have to attend a local college or university. They have a great fear of abandonment. A hallmark characteristic of BPD is self-mutilation. This often goes beyond simple cutting. It may involve using a knife or scalpel to carve their boyfriends initials into their arm or thigh. Or using a lit cigarette to burn the initials deep into their skin.

    Their love relationships alternate, within their mind, between idealization and total devaluation. If we look at Jodi’s journals, we can see no sign of this fluctuation. Her relationship with Travis appeared to be fairly steady. There was very little fluctuation in how she describes the relationship or how she wrote about the relationship in her journals.

    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/diagn...hree-of-three/
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    There's been "talk" and take it for what it's worth- but the buzz is that Matt, Skye and Chris have been added to the State's rebuttal list. Just buzz- nothing more. It's hard to tell what's BS and what's not BS. Thought I would mention it tho. Just putting it out there. I've been forced back to FB for the last 2 days, so my brain is pretty scrambled.
    One other thing- if you post on FB pages, the JAII page is taking default pics and making fb pages in people's names- then posting as if they are that person. Just a FYI. (And the reason you'll never catch me on the State vs. Jodi page- or any other page)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    I realize that Det. Rachel did her best, but in reality she only reiterated the need for closure for TA's family over and over. It had no effect the first fifty times, and Jodi just dug her heels in further. It was fruitless and I feel the detective should have tried another angle, tho I don't know what that would be. I love that Flores refused to show her the crime scene photos....she was SO intent on seeing these to fabricate a way to squirm out of it. The tapes give me the feeling that she is even more reprehensible today than she was then, if that's even possible. I've been wondering if her family isn't actually relieved that she's locked up and out of their hair.
    I'm only up to tape 5. Det. Flores gives her chance after chance to claim self-defense. Jodi never asked for a lawyer. Her PARENTS never got her a lawyer. I think that's the biggest clue to how her family feels for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    There's been "talk" and take it for what it's worth- but the buzz is that Matt, Skye and Chris have been added to the State's rebuttal list. Just buzz- nothing more. It's hard to tell what's BS and what's not BS. Thought I would mention it tho. Just putting it out there. I've been forced back to FB for the last 2 days, so my brain is pretty scrambled.
    One other thing- if you post on FB pages, the JAII page is taking default pics and making fb pages in people's names- then posting as if they are that person. Just a FYI. (And the reason you'll never catch me on the State vs. Jodi page- or any other page)


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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post

    May 28, 08- Jodi tells JM that this is the date she found out Travis was taking MiMi to Cancun. (She admitted this on Day 3 of JM's cross of Jodi)
    Edited Berm's original post for space since I am only replying to this entry. Didn't Jodi say that she found out about Mimi going to Cancun AFTER Travis was murdered? At his memorial, maybe? I am listening to the unedited interrogation tapes and I swear this is on one of them (either lady detective or Flores asks if it was because he was taking Mimi to Cancun and she replied no, she didn't find out until after). I wish I knew what tape it was on, but I'm on 14 and not about to go back at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    For those unaware, all of the unedited interrogation tapes have been posted by David Lohr and can be found in his You Tube channel. There are 18 of them

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1x...BOgyops5B8eRLw
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Okay, I'll admit it it. After I read that I watched ten and half of eleven before curiosity got the better of me. I only watched about 5 min though, aside from her stashing stuff in her jail panties is there anything else I should watch out for?

    Going back to finish eleven.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    No, I am so sorry. I wanted to tell you to just watch the beginning. WTF is she eating though? She picks it up and shoves it into her mouth really fast. Just seemed weird to me.
    These should've had a SPOILER ALERT! I'm only on tape 14.

    The problem I had with lady detective is that she kept mentioning Travis's parents. His mom and dad, and how did Jodi think they felt? Either she didn't know they were already deceased, or this was some interrogation tactic, but to me it looked like she didn't know what she was talking about.
    "so he ejaculated on your face and threw you some candy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    I'm only up to tape 5. Det. Flores gives her chance after chance to claim self-defense. Jodi never asked for a lawyer. Her PARENTS never got her a lawyer. I think that's the biggest clue to how her family feels for her.
    I know you are only speculating but I have to disagree with this. She mentions in one of the tapes that she had money in her wallet and could she use that to put on her jail books because her parents didn't have the money to do that kind of thing (or something to that effect). Perhaps they couldn't afford a lawyer for her. Her mom and aunt have been in court every day, so no matter how they feel for her, they obviously support her.
    "so he ejaculated on your face and threw you some candy?"

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    SPOILER ALERT: Jodi Arias UnEdified Interrogation Fucking Tape #17 - DO NOT WATCH ENTIRE TAPE unless you just want to watch Jodi sit and occasionally write, eat, and stare into space. The 1st few minutes are interesting (watch to see), then nothing until last couple of minutes. She is just sitting in a room by herself. Stabby does try to get away with something and gets caught. Go figure. Now I can go to sleep peacefully. Exhausted and half blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    For those unaware, all of the unedited interrogation tapes have been posted by David Lohr and can be found in his You Tube channel. There are 18 of them

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1x...BOgyops5B8eRLw
    This is great, finally unedited videos of all the interrogation videos of Jodi. Thanks for the link :D

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    Travis and other women

    It is of interest that Flores described Travis as a player and as such he wasn't able to commit. It was surprising to learn that he dated Deanna (sp) for 6 years and paid for her breast implants. We haven't heard much about Deanna and she didn't testify. It's intriguing to hear that Travis felt that Mimi was the one for him. Mimi is the complete opposite of Deanna, Lisa, and Jodie. She is older, educated and firmly grounded in her religion. Flores said Mimi saw through Travis. Apparently, after Travis's murder, Jodi's bishop told her that Mimi wasn't interested in Travis. Wouldn't it be ironic if on june 4th, JA killed Travis in a rage while under the false assumption that he found the perfect woman? Again, none of this means that Travis deserved to die or did anything which hastened his demise.

    my source for the above are the unedited interrogation tapes. thanks for the link sneakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by helloagain View Post
    I know you are only speculating but I have to disagree with this. She mentions in one of the tapes that she had money in her wallet and could she use that to put on her jail books because her parents didn't have the money to do that kind of thing (or something to that effect). Perhaps they couldn't afford a lawyer for her. Her mom and aunt have been in court every day, so no matter how they feel for her, they obviously support her.
    She was all about the money getting on her jail books FOR SHAMPOO and stuff like that. She touched her hair so much for 2 days straight, all the while going through garbage, rolling on the floor (not like us), eating, drawing, touching everything in that fucking interrogation room, trust me, SHE NEEDS SHAMPOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    Apparently, after Travis's murder, Jodi's bishop told her that Mimi wasn't interested in Travis. Wouldn't it be ironic if on june 4th, JA killed Travis in a rage while under the false assumption that he found the perfect woman? Again, none of this means that Travis deserved to die or did anything which hastened his demise.My source for the above are the unedited interrogation tapes
    Stabby did NOT know that Mimi didn't feel the same way about TA, TA chose not to tell Stabby that. Sad, had he, he might still be alive.

    I'm about halfway through 15, I don't really want to watch the rest but I CAN'T HELP IT. It's like being a
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    It is of interest that Flores described Travis as a player and as such he wasn't able to commit. It was surprising to learn that he dated Deanna (sp) for 6 years and paid for her breast implants. We haven't heard much about Deanna and she didn't testify.
    Hi Metis,
    Where is the info on Deanna? I don't recall hearing anything about her so far, just her name mentioned once or twice. I believe one of the Hughes's emails mentioned that Jodi would end up just like Deanna if she got involved w/Travis? I do know Deanna is the one who took Napolean in. Thanks!

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    In one of the videos Jodi asks the police officer or detective woman to take her handcuffs off and then she asked for the heater to be turned on and I was like really wtf lol who does she think she is haha. I was surprised when they took her cuffs off like she asked and I wonder why they did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helloagain View Post
    I know you are only speculating but I have to disagree with this. She mentions in one of the tapes that she had money in her wallet and could she use that to put on her jail books because her parents didn't have the money to do that kind of thing (or something to that effect). Perhaps they couldn't afford a lawyer for her. Her mom and aunt have been in court every day, so no matter how they feel for her, they obviously support her.
    Her family has owned several restaurants. They could have gotten a public defender way back then.
    I was replying to someone who thought her family was relieved she was in jail.
    Last edited by I doubt it; 03-30-2013 at 08:29 PM.

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