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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ive/ar-AAsmyQN

    Jodi Arias Might Request Prison Leave to Attend Father's Funeral: Relative

    Th.e father of Jodi Arias has died in California, and the 37-year-old convicted murderer is distraught — and considering requesting a supervised leave from prison to attend a funeral, PEOPLE has confirmed.

    William A. Arias died of undisclosed causes on the evening of September 19. He was 68.

    According to a relative, Jodi Arias, who is in prison for the murder of ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander, is distraught and looking into the possibility of applying for a supervised visit so she can attend a memorial service.

    “She’s really upset,” the relative tells PEOPLE. “It’s hard for her to know that he’s really gone. She wants to see her family and pay her respects.”
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    I will be shocked if they let her go to the funeral. I don't see it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TupeloHoney View Post
    I will be shocked if they let her go to the funeral. I don't see it happening.
    I didn't know that you could even request prison leave. WTH..jail is the new summer camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emmy_dreamy View Post
    I didn't know that you could even request prison leave. WTH..jail is the new summer camp.

    I think sometimes prisoners are allowed to attend funerals, but it's few and far between, and usually not dangerous crazy people. And I would assume it would have to be someone who exhibits good behavior, which she has not, iirc.

    It seems like her presence would be such a huge distraction that I don't know why the family would even want her there. Buuut, they all act like they have a few bats in their belfries, so I dunno.
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    I hope I don't get killed for this 😉😄

    Detective reveals the eerie details of the infamous Jodie Arias murder case.

    NATHAN Mendes is still haunted by the 2008 murder of salesman Travis Alexander and the media spectacle that ensued.

    Alexander was a 30-year-old Mormon whose body was discovered in his shower by friends. He was stabbed nearly 30 times and shot in the head with a .25 caliber pistol,*Fox News*reports.

    His ex-girlfriend Jodi Arias, who insisted at the time two masked intruders attacked her and killed Alexander, was found guilty in 2013 of first-degree murder.

    Prosecutors said it was a premeditated act carried out in a rage after Alexander wanted to end their romance and later planned a trip to Mexico with another woman.

    Her trial stirred headlines for televising salacious evidence, along with shocking testimony depicting the couple?s stormy relationship.

    The slaying also inspired numerous books and TV specials and would also become the subject of a 2013 Lifetime film titled*Jodi Arias: Dirty Little Secret.

    And now for the first time, the former detective for Siskiyou County, California, who arrested Arias at her grandparents? home after it appeared she was on the move, is coming forward.

    He discusses his involvement in the explosive investigation and trial in the three-part limited series on Investigation Discovery (ID) titled*Jodi Arias: An American Murder Mystery.

    The special explores the death of Alexander and the subsequent legal circus as Arias was tried.

    Mendes told*Fox News*he?s hoping it will help audiences focus on Alexander instead of Arias.

    ?I think people should realise the whole thing is a travesty,? he said.

    ?As sad as it is, everybody focused on Jodi. Books are named Jodi Arias, shows have the name Jodi Arias. Taglines are Jodi Arias. It?s almost like we forgot Travis even existed in all of this. It became such a circus about Jodi.

    He discusses his involvement in the explosive investigation and trial in the three-part limited series on Investigation Discovery (ID) titled*Jodi Arias: An American Murder Mystery.

    The special explores the death of Alexander and the subsequent legal circus as Arias was tried.

    Mendes told*Fox News*he?s hoping it will help audiences focus on Alexander instead of Arias.

    ?I think people should realise the whole thing is a travesty,? he said.

    ?As sad as it is, everybody focused on Jodi. Books are named Jodi Arias, shows have the name Jodi Arias. Taglines are Jodi Arias. It?s almost like we forgot Travis even existed in all of this. It became such a circus about Jodi

    He discusses his involvement in the explosive investigation and trial in the three-part limited series on Investigation Discovery (ID) titled*Jodi Arias: An American Murder Mystery.

    The special explores the death of Alexander and the subsequent legal circus as Arias was tried.

    Mendes told*Fox News*he?s hoping it will help audiences focus on Alexander instead of Arias.

    ?I think people should realise the whole thing is a travesty,? he said.

    ?As sad as it is, everybody focused on Jodi. Books are named Jodi Arias, shows have the name Jodi Arias. Taglines are Jodi Arias. It?s almost like we forgot Travis even existed in all of this. It became such a circus about Jodi.

    ?And she shouldn?t be the headliner here. And hopefully, some people will get to see that other side and realise Travis was the victim here. Jodi made that decision, but we shouldn?t have ever highlighted her. Books and shows should be based on Travis Alexander, not Jodi Arias ? I think Travis and his family deserve that.?

    Still, Mendes admitted there was no denying Arias? strange behaviour after her former lover was savagely killed in his own Mesa, Arizona, home.

    ?The crime scene was such a mess,? he said.

    ?? But when I first came across Jodi and we arrested her at her grandparents? house, my initial impression of her was she didn?t seem concerned at all ? The whole case was bizarre. Especially her demeanour ? Even when we booked her, she wanted to make sure her hair looked OK ? Things like that*were not sitting well with a lot of us.

    ?She was almost more concerned about her image ? She didn?t have a concern for consequence or outcome ? Like for me, I wouldn?t care what my hair looked like if I was being arrested or what my picture is going to look like. To me, that was just weird.?

    In the show, Mendes shared how he observed Arias while she was being interrogated and the jaw-dropping behaviour that quickly followed.

    Arias, who was initially sobbing through a four-hour police interrogation,*dramatically changed her attitude*when the prosecutor left the room.

    She was seen talking to herself, laughing, singing, playing with a garbage can and doing a headstand against the wall.

    ?At the time, we were watching it from the next room,? recalled Mendes.

    ?She was trying to burn off stress. That was an indicator of stress. When people are put under a lot of stress that energy has to go somewhere, so you do see a lot of bizarre things in the interrogation room. She was just kind of rambling. But the whole yoga scene was a little strange to me. I?ve seen some strange things, but that?s up on the top.?

    During the trial, Arias attempted to depict herself as a physically and emotionally battered woman who was forced to satisfy the perverted demands of her lover.

    However, it was revealed in court Arias was willing to chronicle her sexual escapades with Alexander through photographs and recordings.

    ?I was a little surprised by the relationship that they had,? said Mendes.

    ?And the relationship she had with other men. Sexually. I know everybody has their private lives that they don?t share with other people. But that was the thing with Jodi. The world got to see it.

    ?For a lot of folks that was the first time they had seen someone?s sexual exploitations plastered all over the media. And that was shocking for a lot of people. You read about it and you certainly hear about it, but in her case, it was just put out there.?

    Mendes also revealed Arias? family, whom he described as ?hardworking? and ?normal,? were stunned by their daughter?s horrific actions.

    ?She has a great family,? he said. ?They were devastated. Absolutely devastated ? I know*kind of surreal to them as far as her grandparents and parents were concerned. It was like, ?You guys must have made a mistake.? That was their initial reaction. ?You have the wrong person.? And that?s normal behaviour from parents, family members. No one wants to think that their child, [or] grandchild, can do something that brutal to anybody.

    Still, Mendes claimed Arias had no intention of becoming a celebrity.

    ?I think unfortunately, she was sensationalised by the media and I think at some point, it just got addicting. And she kind of ran with it. I don?t know if she had any intentions of making it about her. [But] a spotlight was put on her and she became sensationalised. I think that?s just the way things went.

    ?And that?s what happens when the media a lot of times get involved. Everybody was just so shocked by what happened and then the trial became a circus. I don?t think anybody had any intentions of it. It just happened, going the way it did.?

    In 2015, Arias was sentenced to*life in prison without parole. Mendes is now a supervisory special agent for the Department of Justice.

    Mendes said Arias was motivated to kill.

    ?I think she just wasn?t willing to share him with anybody else,? he said.

    ?That?s my personal opinion. Just seeing the evidence and seeing what was transpired before Travis was killed.

    ?I think she had come to the realisation that Travis wasn?t going to settle down with her and that she wasn?t willing to share him with anyone else or have him date or marry anybody else. It had to be Jodi. I think that?s what prompted a lot of this. She wasn?t willing to let him go. It?s the old, ?If I can?t have you, nobody can.'"

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    Tl;dr version:


    Investigator: it is a travesty that all of these shows are called "Jodi Arias". They should be called "Travis Alexander".

    Also investigator: you should totes watch mah new show, it's called "Jodi Arias"

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    Hmmm..appears Jodi is now requesting to have her appeal sealed. I forget how to copy the article...haha! Hope everyone is doing well!

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    Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Just in time for the 10th anniversary of the murder, coming up in just over 2 weeks.
    10 years?! Wow! I think Gina needs to make a guest appearance and post her Microsoft Paint images of Travis.

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    10 YEARS!!!???? Holy crap.
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    No way. Wow. I'm old.
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    Ugh. She needs to get over it. She brought on the circus herself and lost her right to privacy. Girl committed one of the most gruesome and heinous crimes of my life time and needs to just serve her sentence and stfu.
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    I guess this goes here

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    SEXUAL MISCONDUCT THAT AFFECTED A MURDER TRIAL

    In the era of #MeToo, can we hold law enforcement officials accountable?


    In June 2008, Travis Alexander, a 30-year-old salesman, fell off the radar, not answering calls and missing important work meetings. After a few days, a group of friends went to his home in the suburbs of Mesa, Arizona, to check on him. They found his mutilated body in the shower. "We think he's dead, there's lots of blood," one of his friends frantically told the 911 dispatcher. "There's blood in his bedroom, behind the door and all over," she said. It was a gruesome scene: Alexander had been stabbed almost 30 times, his throat had been slit, and he had been shot in the head. By the time his friends found him, he had been dead for five days.

    On July 9, exactly one month after Alexander was found, his ex-girlfriend Jodi Arias was charged with first-degree murder. Initially, Arias insisted she didn't do it. "No jury is going to convict me - because I'm innocent and you can mark my words on that one," she told "Inside Edition." She swore she hadn't seen Alexander in two months. But her story changed and then changed again. Eventually she admitted killing Alexander, but insisted it was self-defense. Her trial made national headlines, largely because of Arias, a young brunette woman the media breathlessly described as "beautiful," "lovely," "attractive," and "soft-spoken."

    The case was tried by Juan Martinez, a star prosecutor in the Maricopa County Attorney's Office. Martinez had handled some of the county's most prominent cases throughout his career, but the Arias trial was big enough to eclipse all of them.

    Martinez was known in Maricopa for being aggressive, charming, and playing fast and loose with the rules. Phoenix magazine described him as "the most reviled and revered person at the Maricopa County Courthouse." He is one of the few prosecutors who has what could reasonably be called a fan base - the Juan Martinez Prosecutor Support Page on Facebook has over 13,000 members, and is filled with praise for Martinez and disdain for defendants and their lawyers. There are no detractors here, just people calling Martinez "Mr juanderful," "a classy gentleman," and the "Best Prosecutor ever!!!!"

    But many feel differently. Martinez has what Phoenix described as a "proclivity for salacious yarn-spinning and below-the-belt tactics." Said one Phoenix lawyer, "He has a way of getting what he wants in the courtroom, and he is truly relentless. This is not necessarily a compliment." Mel McDonald, a former judge and prosecutor and current defense attorney, was more explicit. "Juan is a victory-at-any-cost prosecutor driven by his own ego," he stated. "He lies easily and he always overreaches, always plays to the mob mentality." He doesn't play clean, and he is far too devious for me to have any respect for him. He is dangerous."

    The stakes are as high as it gets. Martinez has been described as one of the top death-penalty prosecutors in the state, racking up at least eight death penalty sentences during his career. He has been accused of prosecutorial misconduct in six of those cases. The state court identified 17 instances of inappropriate behavior by Martinez in one case alone. And new allegations indicate that Martinez's misconduct doesn't stop at the courthouse. Since Arias's conviction in 2015, Martinez has been accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate sexual behavior by multiple women. In February 2017, Karen Clark and Ralph Adams, attorneys representing Arias in her appeal, filed a bar complaint that accused Martinez of significant inappropriate sexual misconduct related to the case, including having sex with a member of the press in exchange for favorable coverage and sexting jurors. In March of this year, they presented the state bar with new sexual harassment allegations, supposedly from as many as eight women. The new allegations raise even more questions about his professional conduct, especially when it comes to his relationships with women.

    According to the attorneys, Martinez egregiously violated various ethical rules throughout the Arias trial. Martinez allegedly had sexual relationships with two bloggers who were covering the Arias trial. (Both women denied these claims, though Clark and Adams included extensive supporting evidence, including text messages and corroborating testimony. Martinez neither denied nor admitted to having sex with these women.) According to the complaint, Martinez "did so for his own selfish reasons, including so that they would publish certain non-public information that was damaging to Arias's defense."

    The attorneys went even further than accusing Martinez of leaking information that would be inadmissible in court to the media. Martinez allegedly used one of the bloggers to "help him gather "dirt" about a seated juror" because he thought the juror would be unwilling to sentence Arias to death. Martinez was unsuccessful in his effort to get the juror unseated, but his instincts were correct: That jury member was ultimately the only holdout on a death penalty conviction, resulting in a mistrial for the sentencing phase. (Mysteriously, "minutes" after a mistrial was declared, the juror?s name was made public.)

    Martinez's obsession with finding out private details about jurors resulted in additional violations of ethical boundaries during Arias's sentencing retrial, according to Clark and Adams's complaint. He allegedly engaged in an "inappropriate telephone and text-message relationship" with a juror who had been dismissed midtrial. The relationship, the complaint alleges, included the woman sending him nude photos and was encouraged by one of the bloggers. The dismissed juror later said that both Martinez and the blogger tried to get her to disclose private details about other jury members.

    Clark and Adams presented the state bar with a wealth of evidence to support these allegations, including text message records, interviews with persons involved, and corroboration from friends and family. What's more, Martinez did not explicitly deny most of the allegations, stating that his "private sexual life is no one's business but his own." Yet, in January, the state bar's legal counsel dismissed the charges outright, refusing to even refer the case to the bar's probable cause committee, which could have recommended consequences or sanctions, or to refer his case to a disciplinary hearing. Although the bar stated that "some of the charges relating to [his] conduct "would undermine public confidence that her case was administered justly," they said that there was not "clear and convincing evidence" that he engaged in the behavior he was accused of. And while the bar called these alleged relationships "ill-advised" and stated that they would "predictably result in allegations of misconduct," they also ultimately agreed with Martinez, concluding that sexual relationships with members of the media "does not constitute a violation of the ethical rules."

    Clark and Adams insist, in their appeal of the bar's decision, that, "the sex is not the point." The point, rather, is that Martinez allegedly "engaged in improper, undisclosed relationships with these members of the media covering the case; provided them after-hours access to non-public areas of the MCAO offices and non-public information about the case; used them in many ways "with the prosecution of a death penalty case," they wrote.

    "The improper relationships exist within the context of voluminous other acts of misconduct: which taken together constitute a gross violation of Respondent's duties as a minister of justice, and a gross lapse of judgment in how he should conduct himself in the most serious case for which a prosecutor can be responsible: a capital murder case in which he seeks the death penalty." (In March, the bar's Attorney Discipline Probable Cause Committee ordered the state bar to reinvestigate Martinez, in response to Clark and Adams?s appeal.)

    It's not the first time the State Bar of Arizona has dealt with allegations about Martinez's conduct. In just the three years since Arias was sentenced to life without parole in 2015, Martinez has faced six bar complaints on various grounds. All have been dismissed.

    Even now, in an era that demands both increased accountability for sexual harassment and increased prosecutorial accountability more broadly, almost no one seems willing to hold Martinez responsible - not his boss, County Attorney Bill Montgomery, not the courts, and not the state bar.

    The same leniency has not been extended to Martinez's opponents in court. In 2016, Arias's former attorney, Kirk Nurmi, self-published a book, Trapped with Ms. Arias. The book included what the state bar described as "disparaging remarks" about the defendant and revealed details about private conversations Nurmi had with Arias and members of her family. It also included evidence that had been deemed inadmissible by the trial judge. A bar complaint was filed against Nurmi, and he was disbarred for publishing the book.

    Like Nurmi, Martinez published a book in 2016 called Conviction: The Untold Story of Putting Jodi Arias Behind Bars. Similarly, his book promised to "unearth new details from the investigation that were never revealed at trial, explor[e] key facts from the case and the pieces of evidence he chose to keep close to the vest." The book also included unfavorable characterizations of Arias, and alleged that one juror was in love with her. A bar complaint was also filed against Martinez for his book. Although Nurmi was disbarred, Martinez?s complaint was dismissed.
    <<cont'd>>
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    <<cont'd>>

    Of course, as a defense attorney, Nurmi's decision to speak negatively about Arias has significantly different implications than Martinez's decision to do the same. But whether or not Martinez's decision to write a book was technically improper, it was certainly unprofessional. The state bar agreed. "The perception created when a prosecutor attempts to immediately profit from his participation in a high-profile case is also very concerning," stated the court's order of dismissal. Others also criticized Martinez's book. Dan Barr, an attorney in Phoenix and a former member of the State Bar of Arizona's Ethics Committee, said it was a "horrible idea."

    "I can't imagine what the County Attorney's Office is thinking," he stated. "There's no upside for the county here in Juan Martinez publishing. There obviously is an upside for Juan Martinez in promoting himself and publishing his book."

    Not only has the state bar declined to hold Martinez accountable, but judges have repeatedly turned down opportunities to penalize outrageous behavior. In 2005, Martinez compared a Jewish defense lawyer to Adolf Hitler, which the Arizona Court of Appeals described as "reprehensible." During that same trial, Martinez told the jury that the defendant had covered up past crimes, even though the judge had ruled that information could not be disclosed to the jury. The Court of Appeals called the disclosure "improper." Still, the case was not overturned and no action was taken against Martinez.

    Also in 2005, Martinez prosecuted Cory Morris, who was convicted of killing five sex workers and dumping their bodies in an alley. Martinez accused Morris of necrophilia, telling the jury that the defendant "continued to have sex with their bodies until they rotted and fell apart." There was only one problem - the medical examiner hadn't concluded any such thing. Yet, the Arizona Supreme Court excused his behavior, concluding that prosecutors have "wide latitude," and did not overturn Morris's case.

    Even without the state bar and the courts, Martinez is presumably accountable to his office. But his boss, County Attorney Bill Montgomery, has repeatedly swept aside the misconduct allegations. Montgomery has even blamed the recurring complaints against Martinez on the ability of people to file complaints, implying that they are frivolous. Montgomery and his line prosecutors are emphatic about being tough on crime, and adhere to an ethos of harsh consequences. Yet, when it comes to Martinez, that attitude does not seem to apply.

    Clark and Adams's petition is still under consideration, so there remains a chance that Martinez will be held accountable by the state bar. But until then, he continues to be one of the most powerful prosecutors in Arizona - and continues to evade consequences.
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    Good luck with that one Jodi

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    I was about to be annoyed that this thread was still active, but I see now it's morphed into offers of sex for chilli confectionary, so carry on guys :)

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    Right to privacy is such a joke in this case. Hey, Jodi, we all had to look at your asshole and that sammich looking thing you call a van.


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    *vaj


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    Wow, still crazy after all these years. I don't understand the lust factor with Juan. He's like 5 feet tall and probably weighs 50 pounds less than these crazy women throwing themselves at him. If the allegations against him in the other cases are true, the bar needs to spank him...but he would probably like it.
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    Awweee, poor Jodi. Let's just hope she doesn't catch COVID was locked up (forever and ever and ever).


    Court upholds Jodi Arias' murder conviction and life sentence

    The Arizona Court of Appeals on Tuesday upheld Jodi Arias' murder conviction and life sentence in the 2008 killing of her ex-boyfriend, rejecting her assertions that she was denied a fair trial.

    Arias was convicted in 2013 and sentenced to life in prison in 2015 for killing her ex-boyfriend, 30-year-old Travis Alexander. His body was found -- stabbed, shot in the face and slit in the neck from ear to ear -- in the shower of his Mesa, Arizona, home.

    Now 39, Arias appealed her conviction and sentence, arguing partly that trial publicity -- including live media coverage of the proceedings -- and a prosecutor's alleged misconduct deprived her of a fair trial and impartial jury.

    More at the link: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/us/ar...rnd/index.html

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    alexander's first photo in shower

    that first photo is about shame and being sorry. there were 9 there, Mormons.
    the photo expert about his cornea showed these reflections off the tile
    walls, etc. THAT is why he is so ashamed. Jodi make a cell call for them
    to come. just don't know if they all came in one van so neighborhood
    would not notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwilson View Post
    that first photo is about shame and being sorry. there were 9 there, Mormons.
    the photo expert about his cornea showed these reflections off the tile
    walls, etc. THAT is why he is so ashamed. Jodi make a cell call for them
    to come. just don't know if they all came in one van so neighborhood
    would not notice.
    w.t.f?


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    I think what it was trying to say is that Jodi didnt do it? Idk I read the post like 5 times and thats all I got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    w.t.f?
    I no clue. Speak of what. Strange. Mystery person. Illuminati claim perhaps. Upset head. Go bye bye.

    I hope you could decipher that. Lol!
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    1st pic of is face in shower.

    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Wow, every single thing you just said is wrong. Try reading the threads before posting.
    I know but that she did all of this herself? with so few cuts on her? no way. she is taking pics
    of him with the stall door open. at some point she leaves for the weapon(s) closing the
    stall door, bringing those mormons back with her, they were in the house sometime after the sex or even during it.
    arias used them, manipulated those Mormons. using one vehicle. or the neighborhood would have known.
    middle of the week too. people not coming home yet from work.

    why not say this to the cops? she considers the Mormons her family now.
    it is all that she ever wanted. to belong. not only to travis but also to that group. the new boyfriend
    says she had 6 pack abs. that pic of her on her back obviously shows nothing of the kind.

    the cops stopped looking elsewhere. and ALL that blood. that's it. the camera, washing machine,
    handprint/hair on bloody bathroom wall. and of course all that mormon talk. yes she killed him
    but NOT alone. but that is all the cops wanted. cops do this all of the time as well as prosecutors.

    and those Mormons living there? not Eduardo or whatever his name is. but that couple
    in that bedroom next to travis' ignoring that door bell, loud music I know.
    but that house STUNK. sure, they did not notice that. they were in on it. because they
    all lived there naturally their dna is everywhere. oddly enough though, alexander's locked
    bedroom suite was not dusted for any of the roommates prints after them saying they have
    NEVER been in his suite. no. they were in that suite. but cops did not care, they all lived there.

    that cup on travis' body in shower. that is part of a Mormon ritual.
    this slaughter makes helter skelter Sharon tate killing look like kindergarden.

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