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    “What they’re doing at YouTube is censorship,” Melchior said Friday. “Utah Gun Exchange will be the next YouTube. … And we will never, ever, ever stomp on anybody’s rights.”
    Except for people's right to protest, I'm assuming. For sure there will be people in there shitting all over people speaking out for gun reform and won't allow videos that include that kind of subject matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Except for people's right to protest, I'm assuming. For sure there will be people in there shitting all over people speaking out for gun reform and won't allow videos that include that kind of subject matter.
    Also Youtube has to negotiate with various mass shooting victims rights groups. Remember Youtube responds to changes in society as soon as they find out they are targets of a boycott threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KambingSociety View Post
    Also Youtube has to negotiate with various mass shooting victims rights groups. Remember Youtube responds to changes in society as soon as they find out they are targets of a boycott threat.
    My statement was directed at the new "Gun friendly" hillbilly network that's forming to replace YouTube lol. They're the ones that stated that quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    My statement was directed at the new "Gun friendly" hillbilly network that's forming to replace YouTube lol. They're the ones that stated that quote.
    You're kidding.
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    You're kidding.
    Read the link she provided. They're actually serious
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    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/guns...lawmakers-line

    An Update on the NRA-TV

    The National Rifle Association isn't coming to Dallas this weekend. It's been here a long time.

    For years, in a glass-walled, high-rise office just across from Klyde Warren Park in Uptown, the NRA has conducted what might be its most important experiment yet in churning members' emotions, crafting talking points and pushing an agenda of near-absolute opposition to gun restrictions — NRA TV.

    Twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, NRA TV is the nonstop answer to any and all threats to gun rights. The message is loud and constant: Nothing less than American freedom is at stake if the Second Amendment is challenged and firearms are regulated.

    "WHY AREN'T SCHOOLS SPENDING MORE ON FORTIFYING CLASSROOMS?" a ticker screamed across the bottom of NRA TV a few days after Nikolas Cruz murdered 17 students and faculty members at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

    Above the ticker, anchor Grant Stinchfield faced the camera and wondered why government leaders aren't doing more to secure schools.

    "Children are dead — children we should have protected," Stinchfield said. "But the media and its war on guns scared politicians into bowing down — not to the NRA, but to liberal elitists and their politically correct, anti-gun, unicorn-and-rainbows way of thinking."

    The station — which streams on NRATV.com and platforms including Apple TV, Roku and Amazon TV — has changed the NRA's public relations playbook. Once largely silent in the wake of mass shootings, particularly those where students were targeted, the NRA now uses NRA TV to present a counternarrative to calls for gun regulation and to attack those who see things differently.

    It has been a game-changer, keeping the NRA on the offensive even as calls for gun restrictions grow louder with each mass killing. To hear the hosts tell it, this is the only place with the truth; the mainstream media conspire with the tyrannical socialist left. Here, proposals to clamp down on guns — mandates to lock them, limits on firepower — are derided as ways to hurt the law-abiding and embolden criminals.

    To Stinchfield, this is how the NRA needs to get its message out — by raising the volume.

    "We've just had to get louder as the voices of dissent get louder," he said.

    There are signs that the rhetoric, amid massive student demonstrations for gun control, is firing up the NRA's members. In March, the NRA's Political Victory Fund broke its 15-year monthly fundraising record, collecting $2.4 million. Most of the donations came from donors who gave less than $200 each, Federal Election Commission records show.

    High-pitched and hyper-partisan
    The format of NRA TV will be familiar to anyone who watches partisan cable news.

    The channel has three main anchors, all based in Dallas: Stinchfield, 49, a former KXAS-TV (NBC5) reporter who ran unsuccessfully for Congress in 2012; Collins Idehen, 34, a lawyer who amassed a YouTube following for his pro-gun videos under the moniker "Colion Noir"; and Dana Loesch, 39, a former tea party activist and Breitbart editor.

    A mother who lives in Southlake, Loesch emerged as the public face of the gun-rights group last year, after an NRA ad featuring her went viral. The ad played ominous music and showed images of riots, as she said liberals "scream racism and sexism and xenophobia and homophobia, to smash windows, burn cars, shut down interstates and airports, bully and terrorize the law-abiding — until the only option left is for the police to do their jobs and stop the madness."


    NRA TV declined to grant access to its studios, but Idehen and Stinchfield did speak to The Dallas Morning News. Loesch didn't respond to interview requests.

    The channel has a variety of shows, but about half the content is commentary on the day's news, often featuring the hosts making appearances on one another's shows, agreeing with one another's perspectives, exchanging softball questions and ranting about the two groups they present as the enemies of gun rights: the mainstream news media and liberals. The anchors regularly bring on guests from right-wing think tanks. The commentary can be high-pitched and hyper-partisan. The group's ads carry the same alarmist rhetoric: "JOIN NRA OR LOSE YOUR GUNS" and "HELP FIGHT THE SOCIALIST WAVE."



    The media politicizes these mass shootings to push an agenda," Stinchfield told his viewers recently. "They weaponize America's sadness to use it against us all, to rip apart our freedoms. They know no new law would have stopped this lunatic from getting his gun and using it, but they don't care. They only care about disarming law-abiding Americans."

    Launched in 2016, NRA TV produces a few dozen original programs, including Patriot Profiles, a series of police and military stories; Armed and Fabulous, which follows gun-toting women; and Under Wild Skies, which profiles big-game hunters shooting everything from buffaloes to elephants. The network has sponsorship agreements with gun brands such as Mossberg, Smith & Wesson, Sig Sauer and Ruger, and their products are regularly featured.

    Ads and marketing are another major feature — often with the same three anchors pitching gun products, as well as energy drinks and NRA classes.

    In fact, advertising is how NRA TV got its start. In 2002, Congress passed the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act banning political broadcast ads in the weeks before an election.

    The NRA, in coordination with its longtime ad agency Ackerman McQueen, decided that the best way to circumvent the political advertising rules was to go into the news business. And so in 2004, the precursor to NRA TV was born.

    "If political free speech is restricted to news media, why not go deeper into the news business yourself?" says the website of Ackerman McQueen, which is based in Oklahoma but has a large office in Dallas.

    In recent years, the NRA has invested tens of millions of dollars per year in member support programs, which include NRA TV, according to public tax filings.

    It's unclear how many people tune in. Stinchfield said he doesn't know. On social media, some of his videos have drawn millions; others a couple thousand. Web traffic to NRATV.com has risen steeply since January, going from an estimated 55,000 page visits to 580,000 in March, according to SimilarWeb.com, a digital analytics company. The growth is impressive, but the numbers are still far behind the mainstream media NRA TV frequently targets. The New York Times — often cited on NRA TV as part of the mainstream media problem — logged 382 million visits in March. NRA TV has 9.5 million views on YouTube and 1.3 million followers on Facebook.


    NRA TV anchors point, however, to a reach beyond the numbers of direct viewers. Their words are often picked up and echoed by dozens, even hundreds, of media outlets. And Stinchfield said power brokers, especially Republicans in Congress, keep the channel on in their offices to monitor the NRA's take on events.

    "I can effect more change doing what I'm doing now than I could have as a congressman in Washington, getting lost in that cesspool," Stinchfield said. "We hold Republican lawmakers accountable. Any little misstep when it comes to getting squishy on gun rights — if I come out hammering on behalf of our membership, time and time again, they get back in line."

    If Stinchfield wants, he said, he can spur scores of his viewers to pressure their lawmakers into voting a certain way. For example, Stinchfield said, the outlet was instrumental in getting concealed carry reciprocity to pass in the House. The measure, opposed by many police groups, would allow concealed handgun license holders to carry a gun outside their home state. He said rhetoric developed in Dallas is often repeated at the upper echelons of government.



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    https://www.idealconceal.com

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    http://www.kansascity.com/news/natio...210274809.html

    From the time its creator sketched it on a napkin, the Ideal Conceal handgun has had a complicated birth. It's small enough to tuck into a pocket and folds up to look like a cellphone.

    Critics slammed the idea because police have shot people holding cellphones and toy guns they mistook for real guns.

    With the gun almost ready to be shipped to retailers, the derringer-style pistol will be a "featured product" this week at the annual National Rifle Association meeting in Dallas.


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    I know Right? Way to give cops an excuse to shoot anyone using a phone.
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    I don't see this posted anywhere, but since it's all the buzz right now I thought I'd post it.

    This seems like the right thread. This video is bringing out all kinds.

    I think it's like a work of art. I see something new each time I watch it.
    The Jim Crow expressions, the pale white horse-death, the African dance mixed with funk, the eerie violence going on in the background while the kids dance (distraction), the bystanders recording the violence, the police, the way he handles the gun with such care, all the red, etc.......


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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...licity-n877146

    An update Parkland victim families sue gun companies

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    Update on Gun Control in Texas.

    As Texas lawmakers took their turn Monday to consider ways to prevent school shootings, they found little consensus on whether schools should be equipped with metal detectors or teachers should be allowed to carry guns.

    Monday’s discussion in a select committee of state senators kicked off a series of Capitol hearings expected over the next few months as state officials continue to respond to the Santa Fe High School shooting that left 10 dead May 18.

    The focus Monday was on ways to improve security through school design and the installation of metal detectors, among other things. But discussion veered to other school safety topics, with multiple Republican senators speaking in favor of arming teachers. The committee will examine the school marshal and guardian programs, which allow trained teachers and administrators to carry firearms into the classroom, in a second hearing Tuesday.

    School security officials and school resource officers who were invited to testify cautioned against the program.

    “Those programs are just to make people feel good,” Mike Matranga, a former U.S. Secret Service agent who now serves as head of security for the Texas City school district, told the senators. “If you’re going to designate a marshal or a guardian, why not just hire another police officer and put them in a school? They’re better trained. They’re better equipped. They have the ability to make judgments. It seems like you’re putting a Band-Aid on a hemorrhage.”

    Jeff Foley, a regional director of the Texas Association of School Resource Officers, and Joe Curiel, the San Antonio school district’s police chief, said they have concerns about police accidentally shooting an armed teacher or administrator during an active shooter situation.

    At least 217 of the state’s 1,024 districts have policies that allow teachers to be armed, according to the Texas Association of School Boards.

    Defending the program, Republican senators said nobody was forcing teachers to carry guns and that armed staff members are meant to support, not supplant officers. Training could also help prevent armed school staffers from being caught in friendly fire, Sens. Don Huffines of Dallas and Larry Taylor of Friendswood said.

    “I just don’t want us to totally throw out a program that I think has merit,” Taylor said.

    Sens. Joan Huffman, R-Houston, and Eddie Lucio, D-Brownsville, also appeared to support using more metal detectors in schools as a way to prevent student shooters.

    But several school experts were cool to the idea, citing concerns about cost (officials with metal detector companies testified that they can cost between $3,000 and $5,000 per device), the time it would take to funnel hundreds of students each morning through such detectors, and the risk of having students crowded outside school entrances in the morning who could become easy targets for shooters.

    Curiel said a more effective way to prevent violence is for school resource officers to build rapport with students so they feel comfortable reporting any potential threats they might see. If he sees a student needing mental health services, he can intervene, he said.

    Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, shifted attention to mental health, calling the lack of mental health services in schools and communities the “most severe broken part of our system.”

    “You want to talk about architecture? You want to talk about gun training?” Whitmire said. “If we don’t detect and have a place for (a troubled student) to be referred to and get meaningful help, we will end up fortifying our schools and still having tragedies.”

    The committee will address mental health in a future hearing. The committee plans to release its recommendations in August.

    Gov. Greg Abbott released a 40-point school safety plan last month, with recommendations ranging from increasing the number of school marshals to “hardening” campuses by improving security at entrances and exits and controlling access to schools.

    Several Texas House committees will take up different topics related to school security as well, but no hearings have occurred yet.

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    This is amazing


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    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...n-agent-728305



    Yes and now the NRA has been named for being connected to a Russian agent.

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    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...n-agent-728305



    Yes and now the NRA has been named for being connected to a Russian agent.
    Yeah I've been following that on Twitter. People are playing "Where's Wally" looking for her in pix of Republicans over the last few years. She's in SO MANY pix with SO MANY high profile conservative men, including some with notorious dickhead Sheriff Clarke - who by coincidence apparently announced the breakup of his marriage around the same time (according to random people on Twitter anyway, I wasn't invested enough to check the facts myself)

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/maria...oj-says-2018-7

    . In a new court filing on Wednesday, the Department of Justice said Maria Butina, the 29-year-old Russian national indicted this week on espionage charges, traded sex for favors while making her way into US politics in Washington, DC.

    In the filing, the DOJ requests that Butina be detained pending trial, arguing that she does not have strong ties to the US and could be a flight risk.

    "During the course of this investigation, the FBI has determined that Butina gained access through US Person 1 to an extensive network of US persons in positions to influence political activities in the United States," the document says.

    US Person 1 is not identified by name but is widely believed to be Paul Erickson, a longtime GOP strategist and gun-rights activist. The filing says Butina and US Person 1 are believed to have been involved in a relationship and lived together.

    "But this relationship does not represent a strong tie to the United States because Butina appears to treat it as simply a necessary aspect of her activities," the document says.

    "For example, on at least one occasion, Butina offered an individual other than US Person 1 sex in exchange for a position within a special interest organization," it continues. "Further, in papers seized by the FBI, Butina complained about living with US Person 1 and expressed disdain for continuing to cohabitate with US Person 1."

    Robert Driscoll, an attorney for Butina, said in a statement to The Washington Post that she "intends to defend her rights vigorously and looks forward to clearing her name."

    Erickson's role
    Butina has been acquainted with Erickson since at least 2013, and they continued to work closely together through their ties to the National Rifle Association.

    An FBI affidavit submitted along with a criminal complaint against Butina last week said she and US Person 1 worked together to arrange introductions to other Americans who are influential in US politics, "including an organization promoting gun rights," for "the purpose of advancing the agenda of the Russian Federation."

    Alexander Torshin, center. AP
    Erickson first invited scrutiny last year when The New York Times reported that he emailed Rick Dearborn, an aide to Donald Trump's campaign, in May 2016 with the subject line "Kremlin Connection," telling him that he could arrange a backdoor meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    Erickson wrote that Russia was "quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the US," according to The Times.

    The Russian banker Alexander Torshin, a close Putin ally, was apparently supposed to get in touch with Trump from Russia's side. Erickson described him in the email as "President Putin's emissary on this front," The Times said.

    Erickson wrote that Torshin would make "first contact" with the campaign at a dinner honoring wounded veterans, according to the report. Neither Trump nor his campaign advisers attended the reception. But Donald Trump Jr. and Torshin did attend a separate NRA dinner the same night.

    The report bolsters the DOJ's claim that Butina worked with a high-ranking Russian official to establish a "back channel" between the US and Russia.

    Butina and US Person 1 were trying to leave DC before she was arrested
    The DOJ also says in its filing that Butina and US Person 1 took steps "consistent with a plan to leave" Washington, DC, in the days leading up to her arrest last weekend.

    Those steps, according to the document, included applying for a visa that would allow her to travel to and from the US, looking into getting a moving truck and purchasing moving boxes, making a wire transfer of $3,500 to an account in Russia, packing up her belongings, and leaving a letter telling her landlord she and US Person 1 would end their lease by the end of July.

    The document also says that even if Butina was planning on leaving only the immediate DC area, US Person 1 was her "sole real tie" to the US. This person, it says, was "instrumental in aiding her covert influence operation, despite knowing its connections to the Russian Official."

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    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/would-...-s-complicated


    3d printed guns are now part of the NRA debates

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    The Liberator 3D printed gun, designed by Defense Distributed, a self-described nonprofit private defense company based in Austin, Texas.

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    A federal judge temporarily stopped the release of blueprints to create untraceable 3D-printed plastic guns late Tuesday. In asking for the restraining order, part of Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson?s reasoning was because 3D printers are commercially and widely available to the public.
    And he?s right ? to a point.

    Printers can be found at the Denver and Arapahoe public libraries, and an array of other businesses from shipping company UPS to makerspaces like The Lab and Tinkermill.

    But what are the chances of somebody actually printing out a gun or gun parts from a 3D printer near you?

    Gun experts have their doubts, saying it would be too much trouble for a criminal to go through. Workers at 3D printing sites in the area agree. They said the cost, materials, time and supervision over the printers would make it an unlikely venture.

    ?There have been plans for 3D printed guns sort of floating around the Internet since 2013,? said Nate Stone, program administrator of the ideaLAB at the Denver Public Library. ?You?d have to be both really mad and really patient to want to print out a 3D printed gun.?

    For Stone, it?s a low-level worry given ?the amount of time it would take to print something out? and the general availability of firearms in the United States.

    Planet Money Explains: The Man Behind 3D Printed Guns (via NPR.org)
    The ideaLAB offers free 3D printing for up to two hours at the Central and Montbello library locations. Stone said only staff operate the printers and go over designs with people prior to printing. Some people have come in to print out dangerous items like knives, but the library has turned them away.

    Arapahoe Libraries have a strict no-weapons policy at every location, including a no-weapons 3D printing policy. In the wake of the potential gun blueprint release, the libraries have been reviewing their policies to make sure they are ?absolutely clear? to patrons, said Linda Speas, director of operations.

    The owner of The Lab, a creative electronic space in Arvada with a laser cutter and 3D printer, also has a no-weapons policy and has stopped someone from making brass knuckles before. Don-John Kulish said making a gun from filament or the plastic material used in 3D printing wouldn?t be impossible, but wouldn?t be easy either.

    ?Three-D printing has a lot of misinformation out there. It?s not as amazing and game changing as everyone thinks. It?s more for like fun and prototyping stuff? you?re making something out of plastic.? he said. ?It?s a very affordable hobby.?

    Kulish bought a few of his 3D printers for under $200 and the filament is fairly inexpensive, too. He charges non-members at his lab 10 cents a cubic centimeter of material. He said he recently printed a 7 by 4 inch hollow figurine for $9.50.

    But filament costs vary.

    The UPS store near 20th and Park avenues in Denver has much steeper printing prices. It is the only UPS location in Colorado with a 3D printer.

    Shaleen Maier, assistant manager of the store, said it costs $25 to get a job started and an additional $25 for every cubic inch of material used. The maximum size allowed to print at the UPS store is 8 by 8 by 6 inches.

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    https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Ta...493962031.html

    Update on the Gun Control issue

    TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Authorities in Taiwan have arrested the owner of a Texas company that sells plans to make untraceable 3-D printed guns who is wanted in the U.S. for paying an underage girl for sex, official media reported.

    The Central News Agency said Taiwanese police found and arrested Cody Wilson in a hotel in Taipei on Friday evening.

    The Taiwanese news agency said the island's immigration department would make arrangements for Wilson to return to the U.S. as soon as possible.

    Police in Austin, Texas, had earlier reported that Wilson's last known location was Taipei.

    Police Cmdr. Troy Officer said Wednesday that before Wilson flew to Taiwan, a friend of the 16-year-old girl had told him that police were investigating the accusation that he had sex with the youth.

    Wilson is identified in a U.S. court filing as the owner of Austin-based Defense Distributed. After a federal court barred Wilson from posting the printable gun blueprints online for free last month, he announced he had begun selling them for any amount of money to U.S. customers through his website.


    Nineteen states and the District of Columbia sued to stop an agreement that the government reached with Defense Distributed, arguing that the blueprints for how to print plastic guns could be obtained by felons or terrorists.

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    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-c...921-story.html

    Update

    Taiwan authorities have arrested and jailed the owner of a Texas company that sells blueprints for untraceable 3-D-printed guns and who is wanted on suspicion of sex with a minor, a Taiwanese immigration agency spokesman said.

    The Taiwan National Immigration Agency said Cody R. Wilson was arrested Friday at a Taipei hotel after the U.S. government voided his passport.

    Taiwan immigration officials now are “negotiating” with the de facto American embassy in Taipei on how to proceed on deporting Wilson to the United States, a spokesman for the agency said.

    Because Wilson’s passport is now invalid, he has no “legal basis” to stay in Taiwan under local laws, the agency said in a statement.

    Washington and Taipei do not have an extradition treaty that would facilitate a deportation, but the two governments do cooperate on security issues and U.S. relations with Taiwan have improved under President Trump.

    “Our agency will coordinate with the American Institute in Taiwan (de facto embassy) to arrange for the travel documents to be issued as soon as possible and arrange for his return to his country as soon as possible in an appropriate manner,” the statement said.

    Authorities suspect that Wilson began talking to the 16-year-old girl on sugardaddymeets.com, which says that it requires users to be at least 18. The pair began exchanging messages before texting, according to the arrest affidavit.

    At first, the victim did not know who Wilson was or how he had stirred a national debate over gun rights. She became curious and started researching online after Wilson told her he was a “big deal,” the affidavit said.

    In the affidavit, Shaun Donovan, an Austin police officer, said Wilson met the victim around 8 p.m. on Aug. 15 at a coffee shop and then drove to a hotel where they had sex.

    Video surveillance footage shows the pair stepping from an elevator on the seventh floor of the Archer Hotel and entering a room at around 8:37 p.m., according to the affidavit.

    Shortly after entering the room, Wilson had sex with the victim and then paid her $500 in cash, the affidavit said. They left the hotel together about 45 minutes later.

    It’s unclear why Wilson, who travels frequently for work, came to Taiwan.

    Police began investigating Wilson on Aug. 22 when the victim’s counselor tipped them off about the alleged sexual assault.

    Investigators said Wilson left the country shortly after a friend informed him that the victim had spoken to police.

    “The internet has created a whole new wave of potential places for predators and for people to be victimized,” Austin Police Department Cmdr. Troy Officer said at a news conference this week.

    The suspect’s company is being sued by 19 U.S. states over its plan to disseminate blueprints for the guns, and a federal judge in August temporarily blocked the release of the blueprints.

    There’s currently no mandate for licensing the 3-D-printed guns, which are created using special printers that can cost thousands of dollars, and gun control advocates say the guns can be created without serial numbers, making them difficult to trace.

    In 2013, the Obama administration ordered Wilson to remove the blueprints from the internet, but the State Department under President Trump reversed course in June, giving Wilson’s company the go-ahead and prompting fierce backlash from gun-control advocates.

    The ruling in August extends a temporary restraining order, which was issued on July 31.

    Wilson faces a potential 20-year prison sentence if convicted of sexual assault.

    Special correspondent Jennings reported from Taiwan. Times staff writer Etehad reported from Los Angeles.

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    I'm sorry, I know it's deadly serious & not a laughing matter but this is so WTF

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true

    "Every classroom has been equipped with a five-gallon bucket of river stone,? Helsel explained about his Blue Mountain School District in Schuylkill County, northeast of Harrisburg, in a video broadcast by ABC affiliate 16 WNEP. ?If an armed intruder attempts to gain entrance into any of our classrooms, they will face a classroom full of students armed with rocks, and they will be stoned."


    & I know the kids are going to love that last line
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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    I'm sorry, I know it's deadly serious & not a laughing matter but this is so WTF

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true





    & I know the kids are going to love that last line
    Rocks thrown by children > man with gun

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    Community Considers Tearing Down Columbine High School

    https://patch.com/colorado/littleton...ne-high-school

    Note this issue has been at play for the past 20 years and debate over how to respect the victims in the shooting has been mentioned here.

    LITTLETON, CO ? Jefferson County Public School officials are seeking community input on whether the Columbine High School should be torn down. The proposal would rebuild the buildings where the 1999 massacre occurred, but the school's name, mascot and colors would remain, according to Jeffco Schools Superintendent Jason E. Glass.

    In a letter to the community, Glass said concerns have arisen about students' safety, as hundreds of so-called "Columbiners" ? people who are obsessed with the shooting ? seek to enter the school each year.

    "Most of them are there to satisfy curiosity or a macabre, but harmless, interest in the school," Glass said. "For a small group of others, there is a potential intent to do harm."

    In April, a troubled Florida teenager, Sol Pais, sparked a manhunt that closed schools in Colorado. She was obsessed with the Columbine school shooting, and made her way to Colorado to end her own life.

    "The tragedy at Columbine High School in 1999 serves as a point of origin for this contagion of school shootings," Glass' letter read. "School shooters refer to and study the Columbine shooting as a macabre source of inspiration and motivation."

    Columbine High School is now one of the safest schools in the nation, Glass said. The school has a "sophisticated" surveillance system and police and security protection.

    "It also boasts a strong, inclusive, and positive school culture," Glass said. "We continue to be inspired by the sound of voices in unison shouting 'We Are Columbine!'"

    But over the last 11 months, the number of people trying to get into the school illegally or trespassing on the property has reached record levels, Glass said.

    His letter went on to read, in part:

    The Jeffco Public Schools Board of Education and administration are exploring the concept of asking voters for an additional $60-$70 million at the polls at some point in the future to construct a new high school for Columbine. An expansion and renovation of the current high school was included as a part of the 5B Bond Program approved by voters in 2018 with an amount of $15 million designated for the school. This money could be considered as part of the new school construction or re-distributed to other schools across Jeffco for the purpose of enhanced safety features.

    The following are some conceptual ideas for the new school and potential financial impacts:

    Retain the name of Columbine High School, honoring the pride and spirit the community has with the name
    The current school mascot and colors would be unchanged
    Construct the new school near the current location, west of the current site
    Consider preserving the Hope Library, making it the cornerstone of the new building
    The existing building would be demolished, replaced with fields, and controlled entry points
    The new building would have enhanced safety features, designed to provide greater monitoring and school privacy
    The property tax impact for the new construction would be around $1-2 per month for a $500,000 home in Jeffco
    The 5B funds previously designated for the current Columbine High School (approximately $15 million) could be re-distributed to other schools across Jeffco for the purpose of enhanced safety features
    We are in the very preliminary and exploratory stages of these conversations and we are seeking community feedback and thoughts on this proposal.

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    https://apnews.com/0958862d44824d9596feb5ec097273be

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is rejecting a challenge to federal regulation of gun silencers, just days after a gunman used one in a shooting rampage that killed 12 people in Virginia.

    The justices did not comment Monday in turning away appeals from two Kansas men who were convicted of violating federal law regulating silencers. The men argued that the constitutional right “to keep and bear arms” includes silencers.

    Kansas and seven other states joined in a court filing urging the justices to hear the appeal. The states said the court should affirm that the Second Amendment protects “silencers and other firearms accessories.”


    President Donald Trump’s administration asked the court to stay out of the case and leave the convictions in place.

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    https://apnews.com/9c1f0c32a4bf44278aadcb0175aa8a0c

    Pardon this person

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    This combination of booking photos provided by the Polk County Sheriff's Office shows Courtney Irby on June 15, 2019, and her husband Joseph Irby on June 14. A Florida lawmaker and others are asking a State Attorney not to prosecute Courtney Irby who was arrested while giving her husband's guns to police after he was charged with trying to run her over. Courtney Irby spent six days in jail on charges of armed burglary and grand theft after she brought the guns from her husband's apartment to the Lakeland Police. Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of trying to run her over. (Polk County Sheriff's Office via AP)

    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Florida woman’s effort to protect herself from domestic violence has become a flashpoint in the debate over gun rights and victims’ safety.

    Courtney Irby gave her estranged husband’s guns to police after he was charged with domestic violence-aggravated battery, only to find herself arrested for theft.

    Now a Florida lawmaker and gun safety advocates are championing her cause, asking a state attorney on Monday drop the charges, while gun rights advocates want her prosecuted.

    Courtney Irby spent six days in jail on charges of armed burglary and grand theft after she retrieved the assault rifle and handgun from her husband’s apartment and gave them to the Lakeland Police. Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing.

    After her husband’s arrest, Courtney Irby petitioned for a temporary injunction for protection, which was granted. Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it’s up to local law enforcement to enforce it, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

    Courtney Irby told police that she believed he wouldn’t turn in his guns himself, so she took action. According to her arrest report, she said she entered her husband’s apartment through a locked door without his permission and took the guns to a police station.

    “So you’re telling me you committed an armed burglary?” the officer asked her.

    “Yes, I am but he wasn’t going to turn them in so I am doing it,” the officer said she responded.

    Democratic State Rep. Anna Eskamani of Orlando tweeted that it’s “ridiculous” to arrest a woman in this kind of situation. She sent a letter Monday to State Attorney Brian Haas asking that Irby not be prosecuted. She cited research showing the presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation makes it five times more likely a woman will be murdered.

    “Ms. Irby was seeking help from the Lakeland Police Department and taking action to protect herself and her children,” Eskamani wrote. “Prosecuting Ms. Irby sets a scary precedent that if someone seeks help to escape abuse, they will be punished for it.”

    While federal law prohibits people under domestic violence restraining orders and convicted of domestic violence from possessing guns, local law enforcement and prosecutors don’t have the tools they need to enforce those restrictions, Eskamani said in her letter to the state attorney.

    “These loopholes are major contributors to the deadly relationship between domestic violence and firearms,” Eskamani said.

    Joseph Irby’s charges involve an altercation that began with a shouting match after the divorce hearing. According to his arrest report, they both got into their cars and then he used his vehicle to strike her back bumper several times, running her off the road.

    Courtney Irby told a responding officer that “she feared for her life,” his arrest report said.

    As Joseph Irby was being placed into a patrol car, he called her “a man hater,” the arrest report said.

    In requesting that she be released on bond, Courtney Irby’s attorney argued that she didn’t commit theft since she didn’t take the guns for her personal use and didn’t benefit by taking them.

    Spokesmen for the Lakeland Police Department and the State Attorney’s Office didn’t immediately return requests for comment on Monday.

    Gun rights advocates have been tweeting in favor of prosecution and trolling Rep. Eskamani’s Twitter account, while Courtney Irby’s supporters launched a fundraising campaign for her legal fees. She’s also getting support from Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter was killed in the Parkland, Florida school shooting.

    Guttenberg tweeted that Irby was “an abused woman trying to protect herself from an abusive husband.”

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