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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
    Hugs for you. Yes, Sandy Hook was a serious hoax, if you want me too, I can post videos explaining in greater detail how the government falsified the evidence. I also believe the earth is flat and some type of reptailliln creature controlls the earth....
    That's alright, because in this statement he outed himself as a troll who doesn't believe the bullshit he posts here by equating the belief that the Earth is flat and lizard-people control it to the Sandy Hook hoax. Good job, Lazzy.
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    Being outed as a troll also increases his dick factor exponentially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    Being outed as a troll also increases his dick factor exponentially.
    Yeah, trolling people and antagonizing them about something that really hurts - like the mass murder of children - puts that troll on a level of evil that I can't come up with a bad enough word to describe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Yeah, trolling people and antagonizing them about something that really hurts - like the mass murder of children - puts that troll on a level of evil that I can't come up with a bad enough word to describe.
    Yep. Just a child who wants attention. Don't notice that I did something? OK I'll smear my poo all over the place. You'll notice and be sorry then.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    I am not being a troll, I am being very serious. I will become a true believer about Sandy Hook, if and only if the FBI releases the school video cameras of Adam walking into the school building...Oh wait according to the offical report the cameras were non operational at the time...oh how convenient

    There are so many questions and inconsistents that took place on that day. In the past I have posted videos, proving this event, that children did not die.

    There is one video I posted showing how the supposed children that did die, were actually alive and well and singing in the Superbowl that following year...

    Please do your research and ask questions..

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    HARTFORD, Conn. — The father of a boy who was killed in the 2012 shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut has filed another defamation lawsuit against conspiracy theorists who accused him of being an actor.

    Lenny Pozner’s 6-year-old son, Noah, was among 26 people shot to death in the school on Dec. 14, 2012.

    Pozner filed the suit last week in Wisconsin against James Fetzer and Mike Palacek, who co-wrote a book, “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.”

    The lawsuit, which also names the book’s publisher, says Pozner has had to move several times because of harassment from people who believe the conspiracy theories.

    “Conspiracy theorists, fueled by, among others, Defendants’ falsehoods, have threatened Plaintiff’s very life,” his attorneys wrote in the complaint.

    A Florida woman, Lucy Richards, who was sentenced to five months in prison for sending Pozner death threats, was banned by a judge from visiting websites run by conspiracy theorists, including Fetzer, the lawsuit notes.

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    Pozner and other victims’ families earlier this year filed similar defamation lawsuits in Texas and Connecticut against Alex Jones, host of the conspiracy-driven Infowars website.

    Pozner also has helped set up a charity and a website to fight such conspiracy theories.

    Fetzer, reached at his Wisconsin home, said he and Palacek will put up a vigorous defense.

    “Our evidence clearly shows this wasn’t a massacre, it was a FEMA drill,” Fetzer said. “If you believe otherwise, then you are being played.”

    The book, among other things, alleges that Noah Pozner’s death certificate is a fake.

    A redacted copy of the certificate is attached to Pozner’s lawsuit.

    His lawyers blacked out the portion of the certificate that includes where Noah Pozner is buried, out of a concern that conspiracy theorists would desecrate the grave in a misguided effort to show he is not buried there.

    Pozner’s lawsuit seeks unspecified monetary damages and “a judgment clearing his name.”

    https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/sandy-...piracy-theory/

    What the Hell you think the Sandy Hook Conspiracy would be dead by now.

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    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...se-against-him

    Alex Jones named in a court case over the Sandy Hook Rants

    Broadcaster Alex Jones will have to submit to a sworn deposition as part of a defamation lawsuit Sandy Hook families filed against the broadcaster and some of his associates, a Connecticut judge ruled Wednesday.


    The ruling from Judge Barbara Bellis also allows three other defendants to be deposed, individuals who are "critical to Infowars' business operations," according to a press release from the Sandy Hook families.

    The decision comes on the heels of Bellis' ruling that Jones must turn over internal financial, business and marketing documents related to InfoWars' operations.

    The legal complaint in the case says Jones does not believe the shooting was a hoax, but nevertheless has repeatedly accused Sandy Hook families of faking their family members' deaths. There are also six companies named in the suit, including various entities related to Jones' InfoWars website.

    CNN has reached out to Jones for a comment and has not heard back.

    "The JonINGes defendants concoct elaborate and false paranoia-tinged conspiracy theories because it moves product and they make money," the suit alleges. "Not because they truly believe what they are saying, but rather because it increases profits."

    "Jones is the chief amplifier for a group that has worked in concert to create and propagate loathsome, false narratives about the Sandy Hook shooting and its victims, and promote their harassment and abuse," the lawsuit states.

    Jones has denied the allegations. The other parties named in the suit did not previously respond to CNN's requests for comment.

    Mark Barden, whose son, Daniel, was one of 20 first-graders killed in the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School reacted to the ruling.

    "For years, Alex Jones and his co-conspirators have turned the unthinkable loss of our sweet little Daniel and of so many others into advertising dollars and fundraising appeals. It is far beyond time that he be held accountable for the pain his false narratives have caused so many and today's ruling brings us one step closer to doing that."

    Attorney Josh Koskoff, who is one of the attorneys representing the families, released this statement.

    "It is unsurprising that Alex Jones would do anything in his power to avoid testifying under oath and being forced to confront his outrageous conduct. From the beginning, we have said that Jones knowingly peddled false and malicious narratives in order to make money at the expense of the Sandy Hook families' grief, safety and security. Today's ruling moves us one step closer to proving this."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KambingSociety View Post
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    Alex Jones named in a court case over the Sandy Hook Rants
    why would you post the same eat article in two different threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumaki15 View Post
    why would you post the same eat article in two different threads?
    They were related though.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/25/us/sa...ide/index.html

    A father dedicated to helping prevent mass shootings after his daughter was killed in the Sandy Hook massacre has died of an apparent suicide.

    The body of Jeremy Richman, 49, was found in his Connecticut office building Monday morning, Newtown police said.

    The neuroscientist was the father of 6-year-old Avielle Richman, who was among 20 children and six adults killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

    Police said they "will not disclose the method or any other details" of Richman's death, other than it does not appear to be suspicious.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/u...andy-hook.html

    How Alex Jones and Infowars Helped a Florida Man Torment Sandy Hook Families

    In the world of conspiracy theorists, Alex Jones and Wolfgang Halbig fueled each other’s darkest tendencies.

    Soon after the Dec. 14, 2012, mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., Mr. Jones, the right-wing provocateur, began spreading outlandish theories that the killing of 20 first graders and six educators was staged by the government and victims’ families as part of an elaborate plot to confiscate Americans’ firearms.

    Many of the most noxious claims originated in the mind of Mr. Halbig, a retired Florida public school official who became fixated on what he called “this supposed tragedy” at Sandy Hook. Court records and a previously unreleased deposition given by Mr. Jones in one of a set of defamation lawsuits brought against him by the families of 10 Sandy Hook victims show how he and Mr. Halbig used each other to pursue their obsession and promote it across the internet.

    Over several years, Mr. Jones gave Mr. Halbig’s views an audience by inviting him to be a guest on Infowars, his radio and online show. Infowars gave Mr. Halbig a camera crew and a platform for fund-raising, even as Mr. Halbig repeatedly visited Newtown, demanding thousands of pages of public records, including photos of the murder scene, the children’s bodies and receipts for the cleanup of “bodily fluids, brain matter, skull fragments and around 45 to 60 gallons of blood.”

    Given practical support and visibility by Mr. Jones, Mr. Halbig hounded families of the victims and other residents of Newtown, and promoted a baseless tale that Avielle Richman, a first grader killed at Sandy Hook, was still alive.

    The deposition and its details about Mr. Jones’s operation and his interactions with Mr. Halbig were made public on Friday, days after Avielle Richman’s father, Jeremy Richman, killed himself in Newtown’s Edmond Town Hall, where Avielle Foundation, a nonprofit organization dedicated to brain science that the family established in their daughter’s name, had an office.

    The deposition and records are part of a defamation lawsuit against Mr. Jones brought by Scarlett Lewis, whose son Jesse Lewis died at Sandy Hook, moving forward in Texas. The families of 10 Sandy Hook victims are suing Mr. Jones, Infowars, and associates such as Mr. Halbig in four separate lawsuits, one in Connecticut brought by eight victims’ families and a first responder, and three in Texas brought by the parents of two more victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/u...andy-hook.html

    How Alex Jones and Infowars Helped a Florida Man Torment Sandy Hook Families





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    https://www.statesman.com/news/20190...jones-attorney

    An Update

    The attorney for a Sandy Hook parent suing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones in a Travis County court is seeking to have the controversial radio host’s lawyer removed from the case for making incendiary statements about him on Jones’ show InfoWars, which he fears could provoke reprisals from an audience he characterized as dangerous.

    Houston attorney Mark Bankston, who represents parents of children killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in three different lawsuits against Jones for claiming on InfoWars that their children’s murder was a hoax, said in a motion filed this week that comments made by Los Angeles-based attorney Robert Barnes on Jones’ show had placed Bankston and his wife at risk. The couple have already been victims of harassment, Bankston said.

    Explaining his concerns, Bankston said in the motion that he has reviewed tens of thousands of emails sent to InfoWars and he “was stunned at the number of disturbed and mentally ill individuals that have fixated on InfoWars and the narratives pushed in their videos. There have been numerous harassing and indeed violent confrontations between unhinged InfoWars fans and the targets of Mr. Jones’ conspiracy theories.”

    Bankston and Barnes were back in state District Judge Scott Jenkins’ courtroom Thursday for a hearing on Barnes’ motion to dismiss a suit brought against Jones by Scarlett Lewis, the mother of a Sandy Hook victim, for intentional infliction of emotional distress on the grounds that Lewis cannot bring an emotional distress claim against Jones because the radio host never mentioned her by name.

    After the hearing, Barnes, who earlier this year took over the Sandy Hook cases as the new chief legal counsel for InfoWars, brushed off Bankston’s motion to revoke his pro hac vice permission to represent Jones in the Austin courtroom. The permission allows Barnes to work as Jones’ out-of-state lawyer.

    “This is not my first rodeo,” said Barnes, who said he had received pro hac vice privileges more than 50 times in more than 30 courtrooms over his career.

    “When you’re effective the opposing side tries to keep you out of the case, and when you’re effective the opposing side tries to gag you,” Barnes said.

    Of Bankston’s concerns about Jones’ audience, Barnes said: “That’s an eye of the beholder kind of thing. Most conservatives think the MSNBC Rachel Maddow audience is crazy. Even some liberals do, at least on some matters.”

    Barnes said the Jones case is precisely the kind of line-defining, free speech case the Supreme Court is likely to eventually take – lawsuits featuring sympathetic plaintiffs, a reviled defendant and outrageous speech.


    Whether it’s Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan or the Westboro Baptist Church — all of which were defendants in landmark cases — “it’s the more unpopular speech that needs the protection,” Barnes said.

    “This case poses a unique threat,” said Barnes. “It will lead to massive self-censorship.”

    Under existing First Amendment law, Barnes said, “as long as you don’t lie about a specific individual, you’re protected.”

    Bankston said that even though Lewis was not mentioned by name, Jones and InfoWars “intended to hurt her and once they knew she was hurting, they kept doing it.”

    “I don’t think anyone looking at what Mr. Jones did would not find the foreseeable harm” in what he was doing, Bankston said.

    In his new motion to take Barnes off the case, Bankston cited a 40-minute Feb. 23 episode Barnes co-hosted with Jones in which he said the Sandy Hook lawsuits are “a coordinated plan, orchestrated plan, by people like Media Matters, people like David Brock, people like the Clinton family, people like George Soros, and other individuals who believe that speech should not be allowed.”

    Barnes claimed that the suits were intended to terrorize the InfoWars audience.


    A week later, in a solo appearance on InfoWars, according to Bankston’s motion, Barnes warned the cases were part of a “coordinated strategy to end the First Amendment for your rights and liberties in America.”

    “If judges can remove and revoke a person’s First Amendment rights, a person’s First Amendment liberties, then no one is safe. Because they will continue to do so, and create law cases for the sole and whole excuse to try to silence and shut up individuals from speaking publicly,” Barnes said on the show. “Much as the libel cases that have been brought against Alex Jones and InfoWars appear to be intended by various political and media actors to silence Alex Jones, to censor Alex Jones, to censor and shame the very independent media that helped elect the revolutionary presidency of Donald Trump.”

    Jenkins has 30 days to rule on the motion to dismiss Lewis’ case. A hearing date has yet to be set on the motion by Bankston to remove Barnes from the case. If it is not heard before Jenkins rules in the case, it could be moot.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/media...uit/index.html

    New York (CNN Business)A Connecticut judge on Tuesday sanctioned right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones for suggesting that a lawyer for the Sandy Hook families, who are suing the InfoWars founder for his past claims that the 2012 shooting was staged, tried to frame him with child pornography.

    The ruling, handed down from Bridgeport Superior Court Judge Barbara Bellis, came after attorneys representing several Sandy Hook families in their lawsuit against Jones filed a motion on Monday asking the judge to review footage of Jones lambasting one of the attorneys in a Friday segment.
    Bellis called Jones' behavior on the broadcast "indefensible," "unconscionable," and "possibly criminal behavior."
    Bellis sanctioned Jones by denying the defense the opportunity to pursue special motions to dismiss moving forward in the lawsuit. The court will also award attorneys fees and filing fees to the Sandy Hook families' lawyers related to the issue that Jones went off about in his broadcast: child pornography that Jones' team inadvertently turned over to the plaintiffs.
    Jones is being sued by families of Sandy Hook victims in both Texas and Connecticut courts over his past claims that the 2012 shooting was staged. He has since acknowledged that the shooting was real. At the hearing, a proposed trial date of November 2020 was settled on by both sides and agreed to by the judge.

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    https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/c...2f474396d.html

    A Dane County judge on Monday found that a longtime conspiracy theorist living in the village of Oregon, along with his co-defendant, defamed the father of a victim of the Sandy Hook massacre and allowed a trial for damages against the men to move ahead.

    James Fetzer, of Oregon, and Mike Palecek, of Saginaw, Michigan, edited the 2016 edition of the book “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,” which alleges Leonard Pozner circulated a fraudulent copy of his son Noah Pozner’s death certificate. Fetzer also co-authored a chapter in the book and has repeated in his blog the claim that Leonard Pozner circulated a fake death certificate for his son.

    Noah Pozner, at age 6, was the youngest victim of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings, which left 27 people dead. Fetzer, a professor emeritus of philosophy from the University of Minnesota-Duluth, claims the massacre never happened but was instead an event staged by the Federal Emergency Management Agency as part of an Obama administration effort to enact tighter gun restrictions.


    During a four-hour hearing before Circuit Judge Frank Remington, Pozner’s attorney Jacob Zimmerman offered evidence to counter Fetzer’s contention that a death certificate for Noah Pozner, an image of which was reprinted in Fetzer’s book, is a fake.

    Among other things, Zimmerman pointed to separate state and local processes for issuing death certificates to explain why a state file number didn’t appear on the document. And he explained the process for listing a time of death on the document, which Fetzer claimed doesn’t match the time of the shooting.

    Zimmerman also submitted an official copy of the death certificate, with the required embossed seal, to the court and argued that Fetzer and Palecek had not asked for the original but had instead relied on “copies of copies of copies that they found somewhere out on the internet.”

    Fetzer later acknowledged that the original reasons he called the death certificate a fake were mistaken but claimed other deficiencies with the document proved it was fabricated. He said Pozner’s lawsuit was an attempt to silence him and other Sandy Hook “truthers.”


    “This entire case is as fabricated as the death certificate,” he said. “They want more grist for their mill.”

    Remington, though, said he found Pozner’s explanations for the alleged deficiencies on the death certificate “legitimate and plausible and persuasive.”

    If there are differences among official copies of a document, “that does not alone indicate that any of them are false,” he said. “It only demonstrates a difference.”

    Neither Fetzer nor Palecek was represented by an attorney. “Nobody wants to touch” their case, Fetzer said.

    Fetzer has also advanced conspiracy theories about the Sept. 11 attacks, John F. Kennedy’s assassination, the shootings in Parkland, Florida, and other events.

    Zimmerman said a trial to award his client damages is to be set for October. Pozner is asking for $1 million.

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    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/0...-hook-families

    Updated: 9 a.m. | Posted: 4 a.m.
    The families of six people killed in the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting have filed a defamation lawsuit against internet and radio personality Alex Jones.

    Two Minnesota companies also are named as defendants, with the plaintiffs claiming the companies syndicated and profited from Jones' messages about the 2012 school shooting in Connecticut that claimed the lives of 20 children and six educators.

    Jones is a popular conspiracy theorist who runs the website Infowars. He has repeatedly called the shooting fake.

    An attorney for the plaintiffs, Matt Blumenthal of Connecticut-based Koskoff, Koskoff & Bieder, told MPR News the harrowing journey continues for the victims' families — as well as a first responder who was at the shooting scene — because Jones and others associated with him have repeatedly called the shooting fake, on shows that are distributed to millions of listeners.

    Blumenthal said his clients continue to endure threats and harassment from people who believe Jones.

    "They face people following them, coming to their town, videotaping them and their children, defacing memorials to their children, contacting them demanding they exhume their children," he said. "It is really some of the most outrageous harassment and abuse you can imagine."

    The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in Connecticut state court, lists Jones and Infowars as defendants, along with a handful of other people and businesses Blumenthal claimed syndicated and profited from Jones' statements about the shooting.

    Two of those companies are Burnsville, Minn.-based Genesis Communications Network Inc. and Midas Resources Inc. — both privately owned by Ted Anderson.

    The lawsuit alleges Anderson, the head of Genesis — a talk radio syndicator — appeared many times on Jones' show to promote his other business, Midas Resources, which has sold precious metals and dietary supplements over the years.

    Blumenthal said his clients hope suing Jones and the other defendants will finally put the conspiracy theory to rest, and free them from any further harassment.

    "It's about accountability for the actions of these defendants who have waged this campaign of outrageous and malicious lies against people who have suffered a really fathomless loss, and they've done it in order to profit off of the audience that they increase through spreading these conspiracy theories," he said.

    Messages left for Anderson by phone and at his office by MPR News were not returned as of Thursday evening.

    According to the Minnesota Secretary of State's website, Anderson's businesses were started in the mid-1990s and appear to be in good standing with the state of Minnesota.

    Correction (May 25, 2018): An earlier version of this story incorrectly named Ted Anderson as a defendant in the lawsuit. Anderson owns two Minnesota companies — Genesis Communications Network Inc. and Midas Resources Inc. — that are named as defendants.

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    https://apnews.com/59e8b23c37514ceca297f8349f277379

    WATERBURY, Conn. (AP) — A Connecticut judge overseeing lawsuits by families of Sandy Hook shooting victims against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones says she has been threatened by people posting on Jones’ Infowars website.

    Judge Barbara Bellis wrote in a court filing Friday that the FBI contacted Connecticut State Police about the threats, and that state police notified her. Bellis did not release details.

    Twenty first-graders and six educators were killed in the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown.

    Eight victims’ families and an FBI agent who responded to the shooting are suing Jones for defamation over comments made on his show about the shooting being a hoax.

    A lawyer for Jones says that the threats don’t appear to be serious, but that a review of the website was being conducted.

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