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Thread: Jeffrey Giuliano killed a masked prowler who turned out to be his teenage son

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    Quote Originally Posted by sogs View Post
    they are scary dicks.

    I just dont find the dad in this case that person. He had a knife.
    We can agree on scary dicks. (lulz)

    I wonder what else is gonna turn up on this one.
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    In a town I used to live in a kid from my high school and some of his friends went to this house they thought was abandoned. They had never seen anyone in or around the house, the house had busted windows and no locks on the door and the snow was never plowed or the grass ever cut and the people in town thought it was abandoned as well. Well they went in there to drink and be merry and there was a person living there, a very drunk person who shot the kid and killed him. Nothing happened to the guy that shot him because they kid broke into his house so it was justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keann Scissorhands Powley View Post
    In a town I used to live in a kid from my high school and some of his friends went to this house they thought was abandoned. They had never seen anyone in or around the house, the house had busted windows and no locks on the door and the snow was never plowed or the grass ever cut and the people in town thought it was abandoned as well. Well they went in there to drink and be merry and there was a person living there, a very drunk person who shot the kid and killed him. Nothing happened to the guy that shot him because they kid broke into his house so it was justified.
    Insanity. But he was shot by a crazy person, and that's epically sad.
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    We actually have the article. It doesn't say that the guy who shot him was a drunk fish and they had to condemn the house. http://mydeathspace.com/article/2007..._was_a_burglar

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    I live in Texas, so I obviously would have shot him.


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    Yeah, read the article, Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    Guys, obviously it was BATH SALTS!!!!


    not same cat!
    My thoughts exactly.

    NOT SAME KID!

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    I live in Texas, so I obviously would have shot him.
    Same here. *yawn*

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    Unless we are in the bedroom and the mask is leather you are getting shot in my house for running around in a mask.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    And I'm calling bullshit on this kid charging someone with a gun. Does that really seem plausible to anyone?!?

    Unless he was high. Like I said before.
    Maybe the kid didn't see the gun. Nighttime + ski mask = crap visibility

    But I get what you're saying. Still, Dad doesn't seem like the vigilante-zimmerman type who just begs for a chance to lay down the law. He was probably scared shitless that his sister was minutes away from getting knifed and was jumpy as hell. So yes, I could see him pulling the trigger not necessarily because he thought his life was in immediate danger/he was shooting to kill, but without really meaning to -- maybe he just wanted to try and scare the intruder with no intention of firing it. He panicked and ended up firing. He isn't a villain.

    The rushing at him thing does seem strange, I agree. Did it really happen that way or did he just get confused in the panic? And yes, I do think there's a possibility that he overstated the threat in his statement trying to justify it in his mind because he was so devastated that he had taken another person's life. If he is lying, he should be charged accordingly.

    Sad.
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    Ron, I've done knife vs gun training, and you'd be surprised how many times the knife wins before someone can get a shot off. For us, deadly force is authorized when someone brandishing a knife gets within 21 feet of you, but it really should be at least 35 ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerysinci View Post
    Ron, I've done knife vs gun training, and you'd be surprised how many times the knife wins before someone can get a shot off. For us, deadly force is authorized when someone brandishing a knife gets within 21 feet of you, but it really should be at least 35 ft.
    I have heard everything from 15-20. Hmmmmm, this is interesting.

    So you're saying that in the eyes of the law, what would be considered "charging at him" could be done from what's technically quite a distance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    I have heard everything from 15-20. Hmmmmm, this is interesting.

    So you're saying that in the eyes of the law, what would be considered "charging at him" could be done from what's technically quite a distance?
    I guess so. Running at someone and cutting them takes less time than taking your gun, flipping off the safety, aiming, and firing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerysinci View Post
    I guess so. Running at someone and cutting them takes less time than taking out your gun, flipping off the safety, aiming, and firing.
    But most civilians don't have holsters. I mean, not up north at least. This didn't happen in Texas.
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    Whatever, I would have shot the kid too.

    The dad obviously felt threatened. There was something not right with this kid. My kids are adventurous and whatever but they dont run around with knives and masks.

    Im only sorry for the dad that will live with this guilt for the rest of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash bitchy blonde View Post
    Whatever, I would have shot the kid too.

    The dad obviously felt threatened. There was something not right with this kid. My kids are adventurous and whatever but they dont run around with knives and masks.

    Im only sorry for the dad that will live with this guilt for the rest of his life.
    Kinda sad for the kid since he's dead and can't feel anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Kinda sad for the kid since he's dead and can't feel anything.
    Im not sad for this kid. Im betting he knew what his dad looked like. Not only that, he was masked so daddy didnt know who he was AND was being charged at.


    No. Fuck the kids feelings.

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    whoa, whoa. I'm sure the dad isn't saying fuck the kid's feelings. I feel bad for everyone involved. Traumatized dad, terrified aunt, fucked up kid.

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    I never said the dad feels 'oh fuck this kid'. I believe he is traumatized as hell, just like the aunt but I still dont feel sorry for the kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash bitchy blonde View Post
    Im not sad for this kid. Im betting he knew what his dad looked like. Not only that, he was masked so daddy didnt know who he was AND was being charged at.


    No. Fuck the kids feelings.
    You people are ridiculous.

    But I guess when you can't ask the kid what happened, this is what you get.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    whoa, whoa. I'm sure the dad isn't saying fuck the kid's feelings. I feel bad for everyone involved. Traumatized dad, terrified aunt, fucked up kid.
    Right? People get rabid over burglars. It's kinda scary.
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    Ron, what would you do if some guy came at you with a knife and was masked? Stand there? Take the beating/kniving?

    I know you are just going to say that it's BS that no one knows if the kid charged him or not but c'mon now......If the kid wasnt up to no good, then there wouldnt be a dead kid killed accidentally by his father.

    Personally, I don't carry a gun on me so if someone came at me with a weapon, Im fucked. BUT if my doors on my house are locked and someone comes thru there and I feel threatened, Im grabbing a gun or a bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash bitchy blonde View Post
    Ron, what would you do if some guy came at you with a knife and was masked? Stand there? Take the beating/kniving?

    I know you are just going to say that it's BS that no one knows if the kid charged him or not but c'mon now......If the kid wasnt up to no good, then there wouldnt be a dead kid killed accidentally by his father.

    Personally, I don't carry a gun on me so if someone came at me with a weapon, Im fucked. BUT if my doors on my house are locked and someone comes thru there and I feel threatened, Im grabbing a gun or a bat.
    Depending on his size (and what's available as a weapon), I'd either run at him or run away.

    I don't understand why I have to either "stand there" or "ask him about his day" or whatever you people always assume, just because I don't want to shoot him dead.

    And a lot of people talking all this shit have never shot anyone anyway.

    it's not like shooting a target you wannabe sociopaths.
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    You can't be sure we never shot anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sogs View Post
    You can't be sure we never shot anyone.
    Yea, I can.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sogs View Post
    You can't be sure we never shot anyone.
    Sogs may shoot me if I say a certain phrase again... We are hasty with the pow-pow!
    Yeehaw Texas! Cowboys and Guns and Horses and shit!


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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    Sogs may shoot me if I say a certain phrase again... We are hasty with the pow-pow!
    Yeehaw Texas! Cowboys and Guns and Horses and shit!
    (faints)
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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