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    Are these photos of the same person?

    I don't really know where to put this. I saw on a missing persons FB about an unidentified woman who is wanted for child porn. And she reminded me so much of this crazy jane doe thing I read about years ago.

    Child porn woman



    Jane Doe



    http://doenetwork.org/cases/593ufca.html

    The victim was discovered on June 6, 2006 in Pacifica, San Mateo County, California
    Estimated Date of Death: 3 months prior.
    Mummified Remains
    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 25-46 years old (most likely in her 40's.)
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'9"; 130 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown, straight, stringy hair with gray streaks; Brown eyes. Yellowing of the cranial bones suggest possible tetracycline therapy for acne.
    Dentals: Available. She once received high-quality, extensive dental work. The Coroner?s Office is hoping a dentist may recognize her face and remember performing the work.
    Clothing: Gray fleece jacket with front zipper, LL Bean brand men's XL navy blue, nylon/Dacron pants with waist fastener and zipper, Cherokee brand, XL dark blue pants with waist snap and drawstring, Merona brand, M white canvass style shoes, size 9 Wide.
    Fingerprints: Available
    Case History
    The victim was located inside a tent along a service trail south of San Pedro Avenue, just off of Highway 1 in Pacifica, California on June 6, 2006.
    The tent she was found in contained many books, including two Bibles, a ?Busy Women?s Journal? with several scriptures noted and Harry Potter. On the tent were letters made of tape stating, ?no go, no eat, no drink, murder.?

    Her fingerprints were run through the county system and revealed a picture, name, date of birth and place of birth. All the information was fake.
    Police picked up the woman in January for walking along the expressway acting erratically. She was booked into the San Mateo County Jail by the California Highway Patrol. The name she gave at the time of her arrest was Sam Smith, with a date of birth of January 20, 1960 and a birthplace of Louisville, Kentucky. She was released with no charges.

    The cause of the woman's death remains undetermined because her body was too badly decomposed to allow a ruling. But officials don't believe she was murdered because there were no obvious signs of trauma.

    According to the coroner's report, the woman left writings in some of her books that indicated she planned to starve herself to death. Toxicology tests were inconclusive.
    Investigators found a newspaper in the tent dated March 2, which could indicate she'd been dead several months.
    Coroners have tried to match her with the dental records of several other missing persons but have not found a match.

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    Their noses seem different and their brows as well, which both can change with age. They do look a lot a like. I tried to do a face over with the photos but the doe photo is to small.

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    Dentals: Available. She once received high-quality, extensive dental work
    That line makes me think different girl.
    "Satisfaction of ones curiosity is one of the greatest sources of happiness in life" Linus Pauling

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy213 View Post
    That line makes me think different girl.
    Yeah and the first girls teeth are not exactly well maintained. But that may have been before the work was done. Though I am thinking not the same person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy213 View Post
    That line makes me think different girl.
    Good pick up! Do you think they look similar though? I am not going crazy?!?

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    okay, so, dumb question. is the jane doe picture the mugshot from when she got arrested or is it one of those rebuilt face photos? i can't stop looking at her crazy eyes. also, she could have had extensive dental work and not taken care of it, no? an implant gone bad? but i don't think the ladies are the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whackjob View Post
    okay, so, dumb question. is the jane doe picture the mugshot from when she got arrested or is it one of those rebuilt face photos? i can't stop looking at her crazy eyes. also, she could have had extensive dental work and not taken care of it, no? an implant gone bad? but i don't think the ladies are the same.
    I think it's a mugshot from this -

    Police picked up the woman in January for walking along the expressway acting erratically. She was booked into the San Mateo County Jail by the California Highway Patrol. The name she gave at the time of her arrest was Sam Smith, with a date of birth of January 20, 1960 and a birthplace of Louisville, Kentucky. She was released with no charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Toaster View Post
    Their noses seem different and their brows as well, which both can change with age. They do look a lot a like. I tried to do a face over with the photos but the doe photo is to small.
    Here's a better quality one I found


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    No photo is showing up :(

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    Wow! The quality so great, my eyes aren't good enough to see it!

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    The acne is definitely there in both pics. As far as the dental work, it's possible that it was done when she was a young adult (before her life obviously went downhill). There is a resemblance, Liv. You aren't totally insane.

    I have seen the future and I'm fairly relieved to say, it looks nothing like me.

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    Olivia there is definitely a resemblance with these two women and the things like teeth and sunken eyes and nose etc can be explained easily by drugs and age. But the over all shape of the face is hard to tell since the mugshot is so small. I am to lazy to find a bigger photo and try to overlay them and see if points meet up. haha The chin is different and the first persons eyes are blue, the second womans look brown, but that could just be the photo. I don't think you are crazy they do look alike, but I'm not sure that they are the same person.

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    Her fingerprints were run through the county system and revealed a picture, name, date of birth and place of birth. All the information was fake.
    How does this happen?

    You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    How does this happen?
    I have no idea. I wonder what police do if a person has no ID for confirmation of their identity upon arrest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivia View Post
    I have no idea. I wonder what police do if a person has no ID for confirmation of their identity upon arrest?
    Presumably run their prints, and it's virtually impossible not to have prints in the system. They're madatory for acquiring any ID.

    I mean, this chick apparently had access to the shit Catwoman is looking for in Dark Knight Returns.

    You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Presumably run their prints, and it's virtually impossible not to have prints in the system. They're madatory for acquiring any ID.

    I mean, this chick apparently had access to the shit Catwoman is looking for in Dark Knight Returns.
    What?
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    the only reason my prints are in any system is because im a teacher. I didnt get printed to get my driver's license or passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missbad View Post
    She looks slightly healthier



    And a bit related to this - the only times my fingerprints have ever been taken is when I am entering the USA
    Last edited by Olivia; 09-07-2012 at 02:43 AM.

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    I was fingerprinted when I got my ID.

    You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh

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    I've never been fingerprinted in my life.

    I have seen the future and I'm fairly relieved to say, it looks nothing like me.

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    But this person was also mentally ill so she had to have a record somewhere. I find it impossible to believe that mentally ill people aren't fingerprinted.

    You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh

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    My mom fingerprinted me when I was 10 at some police booth at a fair. It was to help with missing kids or something like that. Liars.


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    I don't really get how fingerprinting is that intrusive given that the odds are much higher that it will be usedto identify my body than elaborately frame me for murder.

    You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    I was fingerprinted when I got my ID.
    this is a state thing. i've only been finger printed because of jobs i had selling insurance or mortgages require licenses where some, but not all, states require you have finger prints on record.

    i didn't even have my prints taken when i was arrested.

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