[quote author=christine k link=topic=5627.msg245621#msg245621 date=1174580497]
Have you ever considered, Miseryguts, than many of the recipients of your assistance are innate master manipulators?
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Hell I don't assist them ....good god.... I'm a researcher, I haven't got the patience or ability to switch off at night to be involved day to day although I have huge respect for those who do, I interview them and collect the figures and provide information to the policy makers. I evaluate interventions in terms of money and effectiveness, I am neutral.
Of course they are manipulators, my god, how can you grow up in that kind of environment and not know your stuff, there are 8 year olds who know how the manipulate the criminal justice system, they learned it in the womb, they learn disrespect for services, for police and for teachers from hearing the family talk, they are manipulative alright and so are the parents, they will say and do whatever you want to get the hell away. These little kids then grow up into manipulative teenagers.... it's normal behaviour, it's reinforced and backed up by everything they have lived.
Innate, does that mean born with the skills to manipulate, are you referring to psychopaths, no in the majority of cases I'm pretty damn sure it's learned, they are like mini me versions of their parents and the younger brothers and the younger sisters are just the same.