yeah. this sucks. her dad just died too, i think. within the last 6 months or something.
side note: she has the same last name as baby dexter... for some reason i always think about that when i hear her name.
yeah. this sucks. her dad just died too, i think. within the last 6 months or something.
side note: she has the same last name as baby dexter... for some reason i always think about that when i hear her name.
well, ok! but let's see what happens when i do...... this!
how do you tell exactly if someone is going to do something like this unless they tell you what they have planned? i have a hard time wanting to pin it to the drs. you can't hold someone responsible for something they haven't done or you just think or assume they MIGHT do in the future. what were they supposed to do to stop this exactly? lock him up for being a weirdo?
I work in a high school and we have a threat assessment team. We had to be trained on the protocol and what constitutes a "threat" and what plan has to be in place if an actual threat occurs.Originally Posted by puzzld
If you're planning something, you don't say shit. I dunno what people were supposed to do to stop him.
She should have prayed more.
I get that it's impossible to stop someone from going postal sometimes, you're right Emmie, it's not like he broadcast his issues on huge level. But he was seeing this doctor in the psych unit, she did bring his case to this threat assessment team. They did have in inkling that this guy could go postal and their reaction was to say 'fuck it, he is leaving the program so he isn't our problem anymore'.
I mean, I am shocked that after a week a school official had not opened or received his manifesto a week prior to the events. That could have had him locked up.
Oh man, i dunno what can be done with people that you THINK might fly off the handle. I had a student, which i mentioned before that was "dead behind the eyes" and had a history of violence towards his father. He had multiple outbursts and had be tested for drugs, but never found to be on drugs. He went to the school psych, he was urged to go on meds, didnt and his family couldnt force him... then finally, he dropped out.
its like, NOW WHAT? he hadnt done anything to be really locked up, or held. but he could very well be arming himself, and/or just flip the fuck out and start stabbing people. how do you stop someone BEFORE it happens? Where the fuck is Miss Cleo when you really need her!?!?
Id want to be dead. like seriously, that sounds like i shouldve died. i hate to sound ungrateful to the modern miracle of medicine.. but my personal opinion, id want to be done with life. I dread when this woman wakes up. hopefully she doesnt have my attitude, hope she has lots and lots of support and motivation.
CU Reviewing Its Handling Of James Holmes' Case
Review Will Look If University Staff Followed Procedures With Graduate Student
DENVER -- The University of Colorado has launched an internal review of how its staff handled Aurora theater shooting suspect James Holmes prior to the mass killing on July 20.
Weeks before the shooting, Holmes withdrew as a neuroscience graduate student at the CU Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora, where he was the patient of a CU psychiatrist.
The university review is being conducted by Robert Miller, former U.S. Attorney for Colorado.
The review was announced after a CALL7 Investigation revealed Dr. Lynne Fenton, who was treating Holmes, was so concerned about his behavior that she notified other members of CU’s Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment, or BETA team.
But sources familiar with the investigation told CALL7 Investigator John Ferrugia that officials at the University of Colorado never contacted Aurora police with Fenton’s concerns before the July 20 killings.
Sources said when Holmes withdrew, the BETA team “had no control over him" and ended its review, when Holmes dropped out of school on June 10.
Chancellor Donald Elliman said the school is committed to evaluating every step in the process to ensure it worked.
“We want the community -- especially the loved ones of those who lost their lives and the individuals injured in this senseless tragedy -- to know our resolve rests with understanding all the facts so we can assist law enforcement and other authorities in ensuring that justice prevails,” Elliman said in a written statement.
University officals said there is no timeline for the competition of the review, but it could take some time.
CALL7 Investigators found Miller has close ties to the university. He’s graduated from CU Law School in1965 and according to his website, he won a $58 million verdict for the university in 2003 in a patented lawsuit against a major pharmaceutical company.
Meanwhile, sources familiar with the criminal investigation tell CALL7 Investigator John Ferrugia that Fenton and other key witnesses at CU have not been interviewed by police. There is a question of privileged information due to Fenton's doctor-patient relationship with Holmes. Anyone involved with Holmes' care can also claim the privilege. Sources say this issue is likely to be decided by the judge in case.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...41/detail.html
We went to see the Dark Knight Rises last night in a downtown theater and on the way in there was some nutjob handing out pamphlets. I looked at the one he handed me as we were walking in and it had a HUGE picture of James Holmes on it.
The whole pamphlet was about the tribulation and how we all have GPS implanted in us and how James was in a Nazi cult. The guy yelled "FOLLOW JESUS OR GO TO HELL" at us as we walked away and I yelled back, "THANKS FOR GIVING ME THIS AS I GO TO SEE BATMAN, ASSHOLE!"
You should have shot him.
crazy people find much more interesting ways to fill their time than me.
well, ok! but let's see what happens when i do...... this!
If you try harder you can be crazy also
doubt it i'm not creative enough. i've tried.
well, ok! but let's see what happens when i do...... this!
Dark Knight Batman massacre victim may have died trying to fight crazed shooter James Holmes
It is thought that one of the victims of James Holmes' Dark Knight Colorado gun massacre might have died trying to stop the shooting.
Mourners at 26-year-old Jonathan Blunk's funeral service have said they were told by officials there are indications that he tried to stand up to 24-year-old Holmes in the Aurora, movie theater on July 20th.
'Law enforcement is leaning toward he was trying to get the (suspect's) gun to save people's lives,' said Roland Lackey, an Air Force veteran who officiated the service. 'He was a hero, and I salute him.'
Despite the FBI being prevented from publicly commenting on the case, it is being suggested that U.S. Navy veteran Blunk did indeed try and intervene during Holmes' attack on unwitting audience members watching 'The Dark Knight Rises'.
Among the 500 mourners who packed a mortuary in the Nevada city where Blunk was raised were his wife, Chantel; daughter, Hailey, 4; son, Maximus, 2; and dozens of service members.
Blunk, who served three tours in the Middle East from 2004 to 2009, was credited for saving his friend's life when the heavily armed gunman burst into the midnight showing of the Batman film 'The Dark Knight Rises.'
Kyle Dawson, his shipmate in the Navy, said authorities told Blunk's widow that her husband also matched the description of a man who went after the suspect.
Based on where Blunk's body was found in the theater, Dawson said, 'he was trying to get the guy ... Jonny had no fear in any situation. You could count on him in any circumstance. He was a once-in-a-lifetime friend.'
FBI spokesman Dave Joly in Denver said Friday that a court gag-order prevented him from commenting on the case.
James Holmes, 24, a former doctoral student in neuroscience, was charged with dozens of counts of first-degree murder and attempted murder in the July 20 attack, one of the deadliest mass shootings in recent U.S. history.
Blunk, a 2004 graduate of Hug High School in Reno, lived in Aurora and worked for a small flooring company. He planned to re-enlist in the Navy with a goal of becoming a Navy SEAL.
James Gill, his roommate in the Navy, spoke of the senselessness of the shooting spree at the suburban Denver theater.
'Asking why this happened to Jonny, of all people, has absolutely no answer,' Gill said. 'He made it a point to befriend everyone, and the guy didn't know what negativity was. Throw into that a little testosterone ... and you have one beautiful man.'
Chantel Blunk said she and her husband often used humor to deal with life's difficulties.
'Everybody knows Jonny would say `suck it up,'' she said. 'I'm going to miss him, but don't come at me with tears. I'll shoo you away from me if you do.'
Blunk was a certified firefighter and emergency medical technician who spent the bulk of his time in the Navy aboard the USS Nimitz.
He received a full military burial, including a gun salute and the playing of taps, at a hilltop cemetery overlooking Reno.
Amy DeGuzman, of Bremerton, Wash., his supervisor in the Navy and a pallbearer, conducted a ceremonial roll call of shipmates that included Blunk's name. When there was no answer, a shipmate responded, 'Jonathan Blunk gave his life saving another.'
About 30 current and former sailors who served with Blunk attended the funeral, with some serving as pallbearers.
'Be strong,' Dawson advised family and friends, 'and let's do what we can to get through it and be there for Chantel and the kids.'
Contributions from a variety of sources, including the Reno Aces baseball team and the USS Nimitz, will go toward support of Blunk's widow and children, DeGuzman said.
Jonathan's daughter hailey
his wife and son.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-Holmes.html
Dibs on the widow.
Damn it.
?Step-Up: Revolution? is not the only film that has come under controversy since the Aurora shooting.
Unlike ?Step-Up: Revolution,? the upcoming flick, ?Gangster Squad,? will undergo changes due to a pivotal Aurora-sensitive scene.
The new gangster flick, starring Michael Pena and Ryan Gosling, had a scene where mobsters shot up a crowd at Grauman?s Chinese Theater in Hollywood, Calif.
The scene was meant to be a major draw of the film, but executives have decided keeping the scene would be insensitive in the wake of the Aurora shooting.
Warner Bros. delayed the ?Gangster Squad? release date from September 7 to January 11, 2013, to providing time for re-writes and re-shoots.
ok so this whole time, i've been kind of emotionally removed from the actual fear the aurora victims must've felt at the time of the shooting; then i read that blurb about the delay and reshoots for that crazy scene in the gangland movie.
watching that part of the trailer gave me a second of panic; just watching it gave me a brief taste the terror of truly random crime/attacks. but actually going to the movies and living it? that's some empathy i'm not even TRYING to approach.
i just hope everyone who was linked to the aurora shootings knows it's okay to seek help for mental and emotional wounds, even if they were lucky enough to survive physically intact.
Ehhhh I am against this.
Every movie that depicts violence is depicting something that happened to someone people love, and probably fairly recently. So my cousin gets stabbed in a bar fight....so no movie for the next year can have a bar fight where people get stabbed? What about war movies? Is there an amount of time they have to wait before coming out to depict a battle or else they'll upset someone?
You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh
Gangster flicks are not allowed to have guns because, you know, guns were never used before Aurora. No guns afterwards either.
Hell, people at the Dark Knight premier probably wont be going to the movies anytime soon (joking) and if they do they are going to blame the producers of a movie called "Gangster Squad" when it reminds them of violence (not joking).
Last edited by Creature Feature; 08-05-2012 at 05:47 PM.
to be honest... it WAS a really cool scene from the trailer, and i don't care if it's left in or not. it just felt like a nano-sample of what the experience might have been like in aurora.
i just can't wait to hear what sorts of sensitive, heartfelt things ryan gosling will say about all this.
Last edited by windowface; 08-05-2012 at 06:48 PM.
Ryan??
I remember they moved the episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where they blow up the school at graduation because of the Columbine shooting. I also recently saw a deleted scene from Friends where Chandler was making jokes about bombs on an airplane. They edited the whole storyline of the episode because it was filmed before 9/11 and aired after 9/11.
Please dont fear me people
Facebook has become such a pervasive force in modern society that increasing numbers of employers, and even some psychologists, believe people who aren't on social networking sites are 'suspicious.'
The German magazine Der Taggspiegel went so far as to point out that accused theater shooter James Holmes and Norwegian mass murder Anders Behring Breivik have common ground in their lack of Facebook profiles.
'not having a Facebook account could be the first sign that you are a mass murderer.'
-quoted from the stupidest article I have ever read
haha 'the first sign'? I'm giving my mom the side eye.
You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh
"It's the salt water that changes the Rainbow's pretty colors to gray." "And his colors never come back?" "No, once he's been to the sea he's changed forever. The Steelhead can come back home here, stay for the rest of his days, and live among the other Rainbow trout, but he'll always be different because of where he's been." Morsi, Pamela. Garters.
My boyfriend doesn't have a FB or any social media account, for that matter (beyond email and a car racing forum). hmmmm
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