Meh. Adrien has his say, which is why Avi was circumcised. He has gotten a full night's rest every night since Avi was born, so yeah, he's totally on board.
Beefy, I get you. Both of my kids whine a lot,especially at grocery stores, especially today. If I was going to spank, today would have been the day to get started for sure. I'm sure my kids seem whiny and spoiled because I don't spank them into submission. My shopping trips take a long time because I frequently stop what I'm doing and look them in the eyes and tell them what they're doing is wrong. I explain why and we move on. My sister, meanwhile, also has a really whiny kid, and every time I go anywhere with her, she's yelling, he's yelling, she's threatening to spank him, he's smacking her. NIGHTMARE.