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    Michael Marin (54) commits suicide in courtroom after being found guilty of arson

    http://mydeathspace.com/article/2012...uilty_of_arson



    You can see him take the pills in the first 2 mins and he starts reacting at about 7 min 30

    http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/18...in-marin-trial

    Did this convicted arsonist poison himself in court? Michael Marin appeared to have swallowed something after hearing the guilty verdict.

    Minutes later, he collapsed and died.

    This was already a bizarre case even before the drama in the court room.

    Michael Marin set his Biltmore mansion on fire because he couldn't afford the mortgage. He was found outside of the burning mansion -- he escaped a second floor bedroom wearing scuba gear.

    Michael Marin entered the courtroom at 12:43 Thursday afternoon. The only thing he appeared to have in his hands is a drink bottle. He took a drink before sitting at the defendant's table.

    Two minutes later, Marin heard the jury's verdict.

    "We the jury, duly impaneled and sworn in the above entitled action upon our oath, do find the defendant Michael James Marin guilty of arson of an occupied structure."

    Marin dropped his head into his hands in despair. He then slid his hands up and appeared to place something in his mouth.

    He then sat back. Nothing seems out of the ordinary at this point. The court proceedings go on.

    About 5 minutes later, he placed that drink bottle on the table. Once again buried his face in his hands, and for a second time appeared to place something else into his mouth.

    A closer look shows he swallowed several times.

    At 12:52, Marin took a final drink. A few seconds later, he turned to talk to the people sitting behind him.

    A woman handed him tissue, and it's a downward spiral from there.

    He began to convulse at first lightly. But quickly it grows more violent. His attorneys called for help.

    Marin hunched over, slowly collapsing to the ground as others rushed in to help. Someone asked for someone to call 911 and several people ran to help him.

    About 10 minutes later, cell phone video captured paramedics wheeling Marin into an ambulance. He was later declared dead.

    From the video from inside the courtroom, it looks like a suicide, that Marin put some toxic substance into his mouth.

    "They are leaning towards that obviously if you watch the video it looks like he does put something in his mouth," said MCSO spokesman Jeff Sprong.

    "We cannot verify that at this point and we're not going to be able to until the toxicology report comes back."

    That won't be for two weeks, so what happens in the meantime?

    "We're going to look at everything he had on him just because it looks like he's putting something in his mouth we don't know really what he did prior to that. He could do that to make us think he was taking something and he wasn't and he did something else."

    Detectives also will talk to anyone close to Marin including attorneys, family members or friends who might know something, anything about what happened in that courtroom this afternoon.

    "We will obviously contact family to see if this is something he hinted at doing, maybe he left a note you know, it just needs to be thoroughly investigated then hopefully we'll find out why he did it and what he did," said Sprong.

    "This is something new that I've never seen and I'm sure the courts haven't seen it, I'm sure they'll do everything they can do to ensure it doesn't happen again."

    He faced up to nearly 16 years in prison if he was convicted.
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    107 degrees!?!?!?!?!
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    ronald. lol


    well he took the smarter route if he didnt want to go to jail. how long do they put you away for arson? could he not handle 5 years?

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    Holy shit.

    watching anyone die gets me; guilty or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoMyGoddess! View Post
    ronald. lol


    well he took the smarter route if he didnt want to go to jail. how long do they put you away for arson? could he not handle 5 years?
    He was facing 16, for being broke.

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    damn. he prob never thought it would end up that way when he burned his house down.

    killing yourself is never the answer. but i can kind of level with this guy. plus it was 107 degrees outside...WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE~!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoMyGoddess! View Post
    damn. he prob never thought it would end up that way when he burned his house down.

    killing yourself is never the answer. but i can kind of level with this guy. plus it was 107 degrees outside...WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE~!?!?!?




    And I'm surprised Bernie Madoff didn't go this route.
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    I think what is most amazing is that he did all of this over money. Life just wasn't worth it if it meant he wasn't going to be rich?

    I think this guy is a selfish fucking asshole. AND a huge pussy.


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    Whats ironic is that he couldnt afford his mortgage so he torched the place and in return he was going to be receiving 3 hots and a cot for 16 years.

    Seriously, he didnt see the plus side to this??

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash bitchy blonde View Post
    Whats ironic is that he couldnt afford his mortgage so he torched the place and in return he was going to be receiving 3 hots and a cot for 16 years.

    Seriously, he didnt see the plus side to this??
    There's a plus side to prison?
    I would rather die than spend that amount of time in prison, but I could never kill myself.

    He made an asshole move for sure, but 16 years for burning down his own (well, it was at one point) unoccupied home? Fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    There's a plus side to prison?
    I would rather die than spend that amount of time in prison, but I could never kill myself.

    He made an asshole move for sure, but 16 years for burning down his own (well, it was at one point) unoccupied home? Fuck.
    I could be wrong, but wasn't he unable to pay his mortgage and that was the reason he was burning it down? So that he could collect insurance on a house he could no longer pay for?

    Fuuuuuck that, he basically choose death over living a scaled down lifestyle. He could have put other people in danger by setting that fire all so that he could cash out. Also, really? As his lawyer I would be pissed. Asshole killing himself right next to the person who was trying to fight for him even though he was being a selfish asshole.


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    Yeah, I dunno. I'm pretttttty sure that statistically, being plunged into sudden massive debt is a leading cause of suicide. Things like the suicide rates during the depression and recession sort of back on me on this.

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    lol 'he chose death over a scaled-down lifestyle'. That's an interesting way to regard prison.

    You slept with mike so he would ban me. change your sig..the pretentious look how hipster face is so old ooh you like guys with glasses..ooooh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah, I dunno. I'm pretttttty sure that statistically, being plunged into sudden massive debt is a leading cause of suicide. Things like the suicide rates during the depression and recession sort of back on me on this.
    I'd say that is one high class mental problem. Seeing as we also know that the majority of poor people don't off themselves because they are poor and lose their job.

    Fucker got caught being schiesty and instead of manning up he went out like a little bitch.


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    I wonder who the blond with the long hair is that ran over to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    lol 'he chose death over a scaled-down lifestyle'. That's an interesting way to regard prison.
    I was being dramatic. It could have all been prevented if he, oh I don't know.. GOT AN APARTMENT and moved the fuck on with his life.


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    Losing everything is kind of devastating to people. I dunno, he hit rock bottom. I understand his motivation. And there was no way he could redeem himself in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    I could be wrong, but wasn't he unable to pay his mortgage and that was the reason he was burning it down? So that he could collect insurance on a house he could no longer pay for?

    Fuuuuuck that, he basically choose death over living a scaled down lifestyle. He could have put other people in danger by setting that fire all so that he could cash out. Also, really? As his lawyer I would be pissed. Asshole killing himself right next to the person who was trying to fight for him even though he was being a selfish asshole.
    I understand what you're saying. It's just that I think 16 years for arson - without the intent to harm anyone - is a long time. He was screwing over a financial institution not committing a second degree murder. Maybe I'm not seeing things as I should?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    I understand what you're saying. It's just that I think 16 years for arson without the intent to harm anyone to be a long time. He was screwing over a financial institution not committing a second degree murder. Maybe I'm not seeing things as I should?
    A murderer would do less time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Losing everything is kind of devastating to people. I dunno, he hit rock bottom. I understand his motivation. And there was no way he could redeem himself in prison.
    That is where this gets me all pissy. He wouldn't have had to redeem himself in prison if he didn't try and pull a fraudulent scheme to not only 'save' face but financially gain from it. Disgusting.

    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    I understand what you're saying. It's just that I think 16 years for arson - without the intent to harm anyone - is a long time. He was screwing over a financial institution not committing a second degree murder. Maybe I'm not seeing things as I should?
    16 Years might be a long time, but he set fire to his own house potentially harming other homes or individuals around his home to scheme a financial institution. I just do not feel bad for him.


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    He wasted tax dollars on putting the fire out but seriously, 16 years is fucking retarded. My guess is this guy was severely depressed.

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    I don't feel bad for him. I was just shocked that he was facing a 16 year prison sentence for burning down an unoccupied home. We've already established that he was a selfish asshole, so it should come as no surprise that he spent his last few moments alive doing something selfishly asshole-ish.

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    I don't get feeling bad or not feeling bad. He was clearly suffering from untreated depression. He killed himself. No one is effected. Eleanor Rigby. The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    I don't get feeling bad or not feeling bad. He was clearly suffering from untreated depression. He killed himself. No one is effected. Eleanor Rigby. The end.
    The only person/s I feel bad for is his legal team and family. Selfish prick offed himself publicly.


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