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    Mary Kennedy (52) took her own life

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s estranged wife has died.

    Law enforcement sources tell TMZ, 52-year-old Mary Kennedy was found dead in her Mount Kisco, New York home this afternoon.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/16/mary-kennedy-dead/
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    Hmm.. suicide?


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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Hmm.. suicide?
    My guess is either that or OD.
    "It's the salt water that changes the Rainbow's pretty colors to gray." "And his colors never come back?" "No, once he's been to the sea he's changed forever. The Steelhead can come back home here, stay for the rest of his days, and live among the other Rainbow trout, but he'll always be different because of where he's been." Morsi, Pamela. Garters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Hmm.. suicide?
    That was the speculation on the evening news.


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    One of the comments on the TMZ article, supposedly came from an insider, said that it was a hanging.

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    The Kennedy's come with a curse, maybe she just couldn't take it.


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    "It's the salt water that changes the Rainbow's pretty colors to gray." "And his colors never come back?" "No, once he's been to the sea he's changed forever. The Steelhead can come back home here, stay for the rest of his days, and live among the other Rainbow trout, but he'll always be different because of where he's been." Morsi, Pamela. Garters.

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    Robert F. Kennedy jnr has insisted that he was not responsible for his wife's suicide as the feud dividing the family led her six siblings to stay away from her funeral.
    Delivering a eulogy to his estranged wife Mary, Mr Kennedy, the son of the assassinated attorney-general Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of former president John F. Kennedy, spoke of her troubled life and admitted that she resented him for asking her to give up her career to have children.
    Mary Richardson Kennedy's family went to court on Friday to try to stop her being interred in a Kennedy family plot in Centerville, Massachusetts.


    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mary-ken...#ixzz1vSyJbTKt

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    Sad sad sad.


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    We all know getting into cars & planes with a Kennedy is a bad thing, but I am thinking just steering clear of them all together would be such a bad thing. That is really sad her siblings didn't go to her funeral. It's odd (but not really) that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. delivered the eulogy when the family was so torn up the way it was. Kennedy's = not good for women!

    RIP Mary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Toaster View Post
    We all know getting into cars & planes with a Kennedy is a bad thing, but I am thinking just steering clear of them all together would be such a bad thing. That is really sad her siblings didn't go to her funeral. It's odd (but not really) that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. delivered the eulogy when the family was so torn up the way it was. Kennedy's = not good for women!

    RIP Mary
    I've been reading some of the articles and he sounds so fucking smug in all of them. Like trying to take some of the "heat" off himself - "IT'S NOT MY FAULT SHE WAS A FAILURE!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    I've been reading some of the articles and he sounds so fucking smug in all of them. Like trying to take some of the "heat" off himself - "IT'S NOT MY FAULT SHE WAS A FAILURE!"
    That is kinda how I read things too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    I've been reading some of the articles and he sounds so fucking smug in all of them. Like trying to take some of the "heat" off himself - "IT'S NOT MY FAULT SHE WAS A FAILURE!"
    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    That is kinda how I read things too.
    So, I just read an interesting article in Newsweek and it may change my thinking. I'm not sure how biased it is - Newsweek asked Kennedy Women biographer Laurence Leamer to do the investigative piece on her suicide. But if what is in there is true, it totally changes a lot as to Bobby Jr's culpability and what appeared as "taking the heat off himself" as I said previously.

    Apparently, she had Borderline Personality Disorder. She also took to beating Bobby on several occasions - starting way back when she was pregnant with their first child. Now, he doesn't claim to be a saint - he's widely known as a philanderer. But this woman was just over the edge for a very long time and he did try desperately to save her and their marriage.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...n-kennedy.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    So, I just read an interesting article in Newsweek and it may change my thinking. I'm not sure how biased it is - Newsweek asked Kennedy Women biographer Laurence Leamer to do the investigative piece on her suicide. But if what is in there is true, it totally changes a lot as to Bobby Jr's culpability and what appeared as "taking the heat off himself" as I said previously.

    Apparently, she had Borderline Personality Disorder. She also took to beating Bobby on several occasions - starting way back when she was pregnant with their first child. Now, he doesn't claim to be a saint - he's widely known as a philanderer. But this woman was just over the edge for a very long time and he did try desperately to save her and their marriage.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...n-kennedy.html
    It would great if this were true, so that we didn't have to think of Bobby Jr in that douchey light. But you know when it comes to the Kennedy's I always have a side eye because they have money, power, and awesome damage control!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Toaster View Post
    It would great if this were true, so that we didn't have to think of Bobby Jr in that douchey light. But you know when it comes to the Kennedy's I always have a side eye because they have money, power, and awesome damage control!
    I definitely think he's still douchey (he cheated constantly for crissakes) but I'm thinking maybe he didn't "fail" her after all.

    ETA: and I find it very sad that it appears her family was all "meh" about her mental health. If they at least partnered with Bobby, things might have turned out differently. But, it's much easier to be fucking lazy and then blame him when everything falls to shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    I definitely think he's still douchey (he cheated constantly for crissakes) but I'm thinking maybe he didn't "fail" her after all.

    ETA: and I find it very sad that it appears her family was all "meh" about her mental health. If they at least partnered with Bobby, things might have turned out differently. But, it's much easier to be fucking lazy and then blame him when everything falls to shit.
    I agree. I am not sure what their reasoning was with so whatever with it, unless her mental health is being blown way out of proportion to take blame off of Bobby. Death it really does bring out the worst in families. Like the death itself wasn't bad enough you have two sides fighting over the most inane things, pointing fingers, laying blame.

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    The body of the late Mary Richardson Kennedy, the estranged wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., was exhumed last week and moved from its original spot among the Kennedy clan.


    The coffin containing her remains was transferred 700 feet away and reburied in an empty part of the St. Francis Xavier Cemetery in Centerville, Mass. No marker currently identifies her gravesite, the New York Daily News reported.


    Gravedigger Frank Maki, who oversaw the plot switch, told the New York Daily News that Kennedy wanted to move his wife to an area where the Kennedy family is now negotiating to buy 50 more plots.


    “[Robert] didn’t realize how crowded the area was until after the funeral, and he wanted to have the ability to lay his wife to rest among her family members,” Maki said. “He opted for an area of the cemetery where there is room for future expansion.”

    At the time of her death, Mary’s siblings sued Kennedy to have her buried in Westchester, N.Y., closer to where her four children live. But Kennedy won in court, and she was buried near Kennedy’s aunt and uncle, Eunice and Sargent Shriver.

    Mary’s siblings reportedly weren’t made aware their sister was uprooted and moved to a different part of the cemetery, close to its entrance.

    The transfer of her body to the other end of the cemetery is the latest incident in the bitter feud between the Kennedy and Richardson families following the death of Mary.

    “We were unaware of this, and we were not informed about it,” Patricia Hennessey, the Richardson family’s lawyer, told the Daily News. Hennessey represented the Richardsons in their attempt to have Mary buried closer to her children’s home.

    Attorney Steve McSweeney, who represented Kennedy in court, declined comment.

    Aside from John F. Kennedy, his wife Jacqueline, and his brothers Robert and Edward – who are all buried in Arlington National Cemetery – most of the Kennedy family is buried in Brookline, Mass., the birthplace of JFK.

    Mary, 52, hanged herself at the family’s estate in Bedford, N.Y. in May. Her divorce from Robert, who delivered the eulogy at her funeral, was still pending. Her death followed two difficult years during which she battled drug and alcohol addiction, her husband filed for divorce, and she was charged twice with driving while intoxicated.

    The autopsy revealed that there were at least three antidepressants in her blood when she died.

    Her autopsy report also revealed that her fingers were caught between her neck and the noose when she was found dead, perhaps indicating that she may have changed her mind about hanging herself at the last minute, the Daily News reported.

    In early June, the Richardson family responded to accusations about Mary’s behavior made by Robert in a court affidavit from the Kennedy’s divorce case.

    Kennedy claimed his wife beat him, threatened suicide in front of her children, ran over the family dog and drank until she passed out. It also asked a judge for an order of protection to keep her from physically attacking him, showing up uninvited at his homes, denigrating him to their children and asked that Mary be required to remain sober in front of their children.

    The Richardson family slammed Kennedy’s account of their relationship, saying it was full of vindictive lies.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...mily-plot?lite
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    I read somewhere that the coroner said it looked like she changed her mind and tried to get free from the noose.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...&ir=New%20York

    Mary Kennedy's death now appears even more tragic. According to the New York Daily News an autopsy revealed that her fingers were wedged between the hangman's knot and her neck.

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    That sucks if that is true.. but I would imagine there are a lot of people who succeed and regret it mid way through the process.


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    isnt there a "wrong" or painful way to hang yourself? maybe thats what happened there. done "properly" (i hate using that word in this regard) wouldnt it cause you to black out because of lack of air and then die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoMyGoddess! View Post
    isnt there a "wrong" or painful way to hang yourself? maybe thats what happened there. done "properly" (i hate using that word in this regard) wouldnt it cause you to black out because of lack of air and then die.
    I was reading an article about this yesterday and it said that in the majority of hangings it takes around 15 seconds to pass out.

    ETA: I'd link an article but it's nearly 1am and I'm buggered if I can find where I read it

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    Quote Originally Posted by leapfreak View Post
    I was reading an article about this yesterday and it said that in the majority of hangings it takes around 15 seconds to pass out.

    ETA: I'd link an article but it's nearly 1am and I'm buggered if I can find where I read it
    interesting. i guess thats how those people died from the auto-erotic asphyxiation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    So, I just read an interesting article in Newsweek and it may change my thinking. I'm not sure how biased it is - Newsweek asked Kennedy Women biographer Laurence Leamer to do the investigative piece on her suicide. But if what is in there is true, it totally changes a lot as to Bobby Jr's culpability and what appeared as "taking the heat off himself" as I said previously.

    Apparently, she had Borderline Personality Disorder. She also took to beating Bobby on several occasions - starting way back when she was pregnant with their first child. Now, he doesn't claim to be a saint - he's widely known as a philanderer. But this woman was just over the edge for a very long time and he did try desperately to save her and their marriage.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...n-kennedy.html
    Not really sure what BPD has to do with it. I have Borderline Personality Disorder and I don't beat people. Quite the opposite actually. If they are saying that this is what contributed to her suicide I could totally see that though. I had a failed attempt in December. It really is difficult to keep your feelings in check, and I do have moments where I feel like I am going to RAGE at any moment.

    Either way, it's sad. Especially since it seems like she tried to back track. I didn't realize that there are different ways to hang yourself though. That must be a LOOOOONG 15 seconds.

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