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Thread: The Trayvon Martin discussion

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    The Trayvon Martin discussion

    I believe the thread was lost in the crash.



    SANFORD, Fla.?All eyes remain on the Florida town where George Zimmerman is awaiting release on bail.

    Sunday marked the second day after a Florida judge agreed to let the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin out on $150,000 bail.

    Defense attorney Mark O'Mara has said it would take a few days for the release to be arranged. Zimmerman's family needs to time to secure collateral for the bail and he needs to be fitted with an electronic monitoring device. O'Mara is also working on finding a safe place for Zimmerman to stay once he is out.

    About a half-dozen photographers and cameraman remain camped outside the Sanford jail. There have been no protesters or signs of disturbance as the community awaits his release.

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...waits_release/
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    Will the blacks riot?
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    BREAKING NEWS: Zimmerman RELEASED from jail after judge sets bond at $150,000

    George Zimmerman has been released from a Florida jail after posting $150,000 bond in the Trayvon Martin shooting case.

    Seminole County Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester determined last week that Zimmerman is not a risk to the community, despite being charged with second-degree murder in the death of the unarmed teen in February.

    He was granted bond of $150,000 on Thursday, much less than the $1 million asked for by the state of Florida.

    The neighborhood watch captain was wearing a brown jacket and blue jeans and carrying a paper bag. He met a man in a white BMW and drove away.

    His ultimate destination is being kept secret for his safety and it could be outside Florida.

    Judge Lester said at a hearing Friday he cannot have any guns and must observe a 7pm-to-6am curfew. Zimmerman also surrendered his passport.

    Zimmerman had to put up 10 per cent, or $15,000, to make bail. His father had indicated he might take out a second mortgage.

    Zimmerman worked at a mortgage risk-management company at the time of the shooting and his wife is in nursing school.

    A website was set up to collect donations for Zimmerman's defense fund. It is unclear how much has been raised.

    Bail is not unheard of in second-degree murder cases, and legal experts had predicted it would be granted for Zimmerman because of his ties to the community, because he turned himself in after he was charged last week, and because he has never been convicted of a serious crime.

    Speaking at his bail hearing, Zimmerman, 28, apologised to Trayvon's parents, coming face-to-face with the victim's family for the first time. He said: ‘I am sorry for the loss of your son… I did not know if he was armed or not.’

    Addressing Trayvon Martin's family directly Zimmerman said: 'I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit older than I was'.

    The 28-year-old is charged with second degree murder for the February 26 killing of the 17-year-old.

    While on the stand, the prosecution asked why Zimmerman waited so long to contact Martin’s parents.

    Zimmerman said he was told not to by his own lawyer.

    ‘I was told not to communicate,’ he said. Zimmerman sat stiffly while testifying, keeping his expression blank and blinking frequently.

    He was questioned for about five minutes before the judge dismissed him from the stand.

    Zimmerman's case may have improved slightly with the release of a new photograph, showing the back of Zimmerman's bleeding head following the incident.

    The photo, obtained and released exclusively by ABC News, shows blood trickling from the crown of Zimmerman's head. ABC News notes that the blood is likely coming from two gashes.

    The police report from the night of February 26 also noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose.

    However, Zimmerman was not sent to the hospital, nor did he receive stitches. Rather, he was treated by paramedics and brought in for questioning.

    Zimmerman, who has not spoken publicly since the shooting, told police that he spotted Martin as he was patrolling his neighbourhood and called 911 to report a suspicious person.

    'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his sport utility vehicle.

    He added that the teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.
    'These a*******. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.

    But Trayvon was not armed. He was returning from a convenience store with an iced tea for himself and a bag of skittles for his little brother.

    A neighbour said there had been several break-ins in the community in the past year, including one in which burglars took a TV and laptops.

    A dispatcher told Zimmerman to stay in his sport utility vehicle and that an officer would be there momentarily, but Zimmerman - for unknown reasons - got out.

    Zimmerman told police he lost sight of the teenager and was walking back to his sport utility vehicle when he was suddenly attacked.

    He claims he shot the teen in self-defence.

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1082994

    Witnesses change accounts in Trayvon Martin case in ways that could hurt Zimmerman: newspaper review

    Three of the witnesses’ new statements, according to The Sentinel, may complicate Zimmerman’s case

    By Erik Ortiz / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Published: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 12:08 AM
    Updated: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 12:52 AM




    This Feb. 27, 2012 photo released by the State Attorney's Office shows George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot Trayvon Martin, with blood on the back of his head.




    Witnesses interviewed early on in the Trayvon Martin case later changed their accounts in ways that could undermine suspect George Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense, according to a newspaper’s review of evidence recently made public.

    The Orlando Sentinel reported Tuesday that the four witnesses were reinterviewed in the weeks following the Feb. 26 shooting of Martin in Sanford, Fla.

    Three of the witnesses’ new statements, according to The Sentinel, may complicate Zimmerman’s case. This is how their accounts have changed:

    Witness 12

    A neighbor in the complex first told an agent March 20 that she saw two people on the ground, but wasn’t sure who was on top.

    Six days later, after seeing news reports, she said she believed Zimmerman was on top of Martin.

    Witness 6

    He first told an investigator that he saw a black man (presumably Martin) “throwing down blows” on a lighter-skinned man (presumably Zimmerman). He also believed the one being hit was calling out for help.

    But three weeks later, while he still claimed “the black guy was on top,” he wasn’t sure who was actually calling for help and wouldn’t assume Martin was the one hitting Zimmerman.

    Witness 13

    This witness interacted with Zimmerman before police arrived, according to the evidence, and noted the blood on the back of his head.

    In two interviews a month later, he detailed how Zimmerman that night acted casually like “nothing” had happened, as opposed to “‘I can’t believe I just shot someone!’” according to the evidence.

    Witness 2

    She initially told police that she saw two people running, although she couldn’t say who was chasing whom.

    On March 20, she told a Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent that she remembers seeing only one person running and heard them as well, but still couldn’t say who that was.

    Poll shows Zimmerman support

    The 17-year-old Martin was returning home from a convenience store and cut through a condo complex when he came across Zimmerman, police said.

    Zimmerman, 28, a neighborhood watch volunteer, said he was allegedly attacked by Martin during an altercation. Zimmerman has claimed he shot Martin in self-defense, although prosecutors charged him with second-degree murder in April.

    A Rasmussen Reports poll released Tuesday shows that public sentiment is still leaning more toward Zimmerman: 40% surveyed think he acted in self-defense, up from 24% last month.

    Meanwhile, 24% agree that Zimmerman is guilty, down from 30% in early April.

    The remaining 36% surveyed are undecided.

    The poll, conducted over the weekend, comes after court evidence made public last week reveals the extent of Zimmerman’s injuries in photos and in a medical report compiled by his family’s doctor the day after the incident.
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    I saw a video on liveleak that alleges Trayvon Martin was an observer in a 'fight club'. I think the only reason they say that though is someone says the name Trayvon in the clip. Because I am sure there is only 1.


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    Zimmerman caused this entire avoidable fiasco and to me that is the key, had he not went all vigilante none of this would have happened. Manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabei View Post
    Zimmerman caused this entire avoidable fiasco and to me that is the key, had he not went all vigilante none of this would have happened. Manslaughter.
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    Seriously, I wouldn't even care if Trayvon was all hopped up on Mt. Dew and beating the shit out of Zimmerman, the fact remains that Zimmerman continued to pursue Trayvon even after the authorities told him to stop, so getting his ass whooped by a scared teenager would have been his own fault. He is not law enforcement, he was a fucking neighborhood watch captain - he had no right to shoot him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerysinci View Post
    Seriously, I wouldn't even care if Trayvon was all hopped up on Mt. Dew and beating the shit out of Zimmerman, the fact remains that Zimmerman continued to pursue Trayvon even after the authorities told him to stop, so getting his ass whooped by a scared teenager would have been his own fault. He is not law enforcement, he was a fucking neighborhood watch captain - he had no right to shoot him.



    It's funny, I was reading the Yahoo comments, and every person who said what you just did got "thumbs down" on their shit. Someone even pointed that out, and said "I cannot understand why you people don't understand that all of this could have been avoided if he just stayed in his car and didn't pursue this kid. Why do you 'thumbs down' anyone that points this out?

    The gun-totin hillbillies think they are full well right to approach someone and make them state their business. Well, if that person is suspicious (black) looking. Oh, and then feel threatene if you don't respond with "Yes, sir. No, sir."

    This shit is a fucking joke. People should be ashamed of themselves. At least the people on Chimpout don't try to hid what they're actually getting at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawna View Post
    Roses are red, violets are blue, seriously where is the fucking ring I gave Julie and ask her mom about the flowers
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    In all fairness, we have no idea how big this dude's cock was.

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    Well that is pretty tasteless.


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    it must be, work has it blocked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmieslost View Post
    it must be, work has it blocked...
    it's stupid kids "trayvoning" posing with a hoodie, skittles and tea like they have been shot in the chest. the article said there was a facebook page for "trayvoning" but i couldn't find it.
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    Roses are red, violets are blue, seriously where is the fucking ring I gave Julie and ask her mom about the flowers
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    In all fairness, we have no idea how big this dude's cock was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beli View Post
    it's stupid kids "trayvoning" posing with a hoodie, skittles and tea like they have been shot in the chest. the article said there was a facebook page for "trayvoning" but i couldn't find it.
    i saw ron posted something about that on fb. i hate people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmieslost View Post
    i saw ron posted something about that on fb. i hate people.
    This is porn for assholes like SOAD. I know they fap to that shit.
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    Unfortunately according to the laws, Zimmerman should get off.
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    Link to documents released in the case:

    http://www.axiomamnesia.com/TrayvonM...-documents.pdf

    183 pages should give those who have to work today something to read if things get slow.
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    I dont understand those laws. Again, if I'm walking home at night and some guy starts following me, then attacks me, and I hit him, he is not allowed to shoot me. Just not in any sense. You don't instigate something and then have the right to say self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    I dont understand those laws. Again, if I'm walking home at night and some guy starts following me, then attacks me, and I hit him, he is not allowed to shoot me. Just not in any sense. You don't instigate something and then have the right to say self defense.
    this seems so straight forward in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmieslost View Post
    this seems so straight forward in my head.
    Just to me, that implies every murderer can get off if their victim tries to fight back.

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    Last week an Orlando businessman admitted to profiting off Trayvon's death by selling gun range targets displaying a hoodie with Skittles and iced tea in the pocket. This was truly disgusting, but this guy’s aim, whether we like it or not, was to make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
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    so stupid.

    you should "like" this page on facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justic...78155035593734

    it gives you lots of links and discussions about this case.
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    You done fucked up son.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rtin-case?lite

    Judge revokes bail for George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case
    By NBC's Jamie Novogrod

    A Florida judge on Friday revoked the bail for George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, saying he had misled the court about his finances, and ordered him to present himself to the court within 48 hours.

    Prosecutors alleged that Zimmerman, 28, misled the court regarding his finances when $150,000 bail was granted April 20 and accused him of holding a second U.S. passport that he did not surrender to the court. Zimmerman is facing second-degree murder charges in the shooting death of Martin, 17, in February.

    In a hearing in Sanford, Fla., Judge Kenneth Lester said Zimmerman engaged in a "material falsehood" about his finances.

    The state attached a copy of the application for that passport to its motion. The state claims in its motion that Zimmerman obtained the second passport after filing a claim that his original passport had been lost or stolen.

    Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, conceded there was a second passport, saying, "It's not devious or inappropriate" to have a second passport if first one is lost or stolen. He said the second passport has never been stamped.

    He said Zimmerman filed for a second passport after thinking he had lost his first one; Zimmerman later discovered he had not lost the first one. O'Mara said it's his fault court did not have the second passport earlier.

    Lester said he was not swayed by the prosecution's argument on the passport.

    The revocation motion was filed as a hearing opened on the confidentiality of evidence in the case, including Zimmerman’s statement to police.

    Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda asked that the names of witnesses be sealed.

    He told Judge Kenneth Lester that the case is being tried in the public court as opposed to the court of law, partially due to social media -- including Twitter and other technologies that he added he has "never heard of."

    He called the topic an area where "state and defense will agree."

    A consortium of more than a dozen media groups is asking the judge not to seal some records in the case. Prosecutors and Zimmerman's attorney fear witnesses will be harassed if their names are publicized.

    The media groups say those aren't good enough reasons to keep what is usually a public record from being released.

    Zimmerman is accused of killing Martin as he walked through a gated residential community in Sanford, Fla., near Orlando, on Feb. 26.

    Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, who claimed self-defense, but a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
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    Fucking jerkface. Hope he is in the states still.


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