Missing child, Jorelys Rivera (7) was found dead in a dumpster

[bowieluva]

I don't know, I know plenty of people would probably be relieved that they'll never have to look at his face or hear about him again.

[Trahnse]

I watched one of those First 48 type shows where the murderer committed suicide before he could be tried in court. The father of the victim said he felt cheated because in the end, the murderer was still in control of the situation. I totally understand how the father felt, but I agree, dead is dead. At least this way we know he won't get off on some bullshit technicality or something and be free to do it again.

[bowieluva]

I watched one of those First 48 type shows where the murderer committed suicide before he could be tried in court. The father of the victim said he felt cheated because in the end, the murderer was still in control of the situation. I totally understand how the father felt, but I agree, dead is dead. At least this way we know he won't get off on some bullshit technicality or something and be free to do it again.

He wasn't going to get off on any technicality, anyway. He pled guilty and confessed. The family knew all the grisly details and he wasn't trying to get away with it, so I don't know what benefit it would be to have him around.

[AtlantaAndy]

i'm just glad it's not going to cost us many thousands of dollars for 50 or so years to house this guy.

Jorelys mom is allegedly pleased with this outcome too.

[rachy]

[Ron_NYC]

I dunno. He's gone, he can't hurt anyone else. Isn't that the whole point? it's weird to me when people want to inflict suffering in revenge for someone enduring suffering.

"Did you hear what that sick fuck did? He's a disgusting excuse for a human. I want to rip his eyeballs out and then set him on fire while I watch him slowly burn to death, the sick fuck."

[snowfallsoon]

He wasn't going to get off on any technicality, anyway. He pled guilty and confessed. The family knew all the grisly details and he wasn't trying to get away with it, so I don't know what benefit it would be to have him around.

Right, there wasn't going to be a trial. He had already served 2 days of his sentence. I'm glad he's dead. Before this he had molested 2 other children.

[snowfallsoon]

Canton police chief quits in wake of critical report

Canton Police Chief Jeff Lance resigned Thursday after a scathing independent report said he and his department mishandled the initial investigation into last month's disappearance and gruesome murder of 7-year-old Jorelys Rivera.
Canton Mayor Gene Hobgood, who asked for the review last month after criticisms of the department's search for Jorelys, called the 19-page report by LaGrange Police Chief Chief Louis Dekmar "indicting."
Lance, who had said last week he didn't expect the report to cost him his job, didn't return calls seeking comment Thursday.
Apartment maintenance man Ryan Brunn, 20, pleaded guilty Tuesday to molesting and killing Jorelys and was sentenced to life in prison. Brunn killed himself Thursday at the state prison in Jackson.
During his sentencing hearing, Brunn described how he lured the girl into a vacant apartment on Dec. 2 and sexually molested and murdered her before dumping her body in a trash compactor.
The report released Thursday, which examined police actions during the first 48 hours after Jorelys' disappearance, concluded the Canton force didn’t follow its own policies after receiving a call about the missing girl around 7:30 p.m. Dec. 2, more than two hours after she was last seen on a playground of the River Ridge Apartments, where she lived.
The department operated under the idea the first-grader had simply run away rather than investigating the case as a potential child abduction.
The report said police were told by the missing child's family she had previously run away, and that a week prior to her vanishing Jorelys had an argument with her mother in which she threatened to run away. But Jorelys' mother did not report her missing on previous occasions, and the report concluded the mother's specific concern for her daughter's welfare on this occasion apparently did not factor into the police department's response.
Numerous mistakes or lapses were cited. Among them:

• Police failed to enter the child's information into the National Crime Information Center's Missing Person File until 23 hours after she was last seen.
  
• Officers waited six hours after Jorelys' disappearance to initiate an immediate community notification protocol that uses the telephone system to deliver a recorded message about a missing child to residents in the vicinity.
• The police department initially sealed and protected the area of the child's apartment, including her personal articles, but released the scene later without processing it.
• Detectives did not arrive until more than two hours after the incident was reported.
• The police chief did not arrive on the scene until mid-morning on the day after the child went missing, and personnel described his demeanor as "laid back." He ultimately turned on a television to a University of Georgia football game.
• The police department suspended the search twice, the first time around 2 a.m. Saturday, about seven hours after receiving the missing persons report, and again at around 8 p.m. Saturday.
• Canton police made a modest request for assistance initially, but failed to activate substantial investigative assets for almost 48 hours after the child was last seen.

"There was a clear absence of leadership by the agency head predicated on the assumption that this was a routine runaway or missing child, and she would turn up," wrote Dekmar, who was contracted by the city to conduct the review at a rate of $150 an hour.

Lance told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution last week that he would give his department's handling of the investigation an "8 out of 10," and said he did not expect the report to cost him his job.
"I do not understand why, having so many years as a police officer, he did not conduct the case how it should [have] been conducted," Jorelys' mother, Jocelyn Rivera, said Thursday through a translator.
"How could he not take things seriously?" she said. "I am sure there was discrimination against me because I am Latin and because I do not speak English. Maybe they could not prevent the death [of Jorelys], but at least they could have found her body earlier."
City Manager Scott Wood said the city will begin a search for a replacement for Lance, who was named chief in 2007 after joining the police department 20 years ago. Wood said Deputy Chief Todd Vande Zande will serve as interim chief.
In his review, Dekmar wrote that while evidence indicated Canton police could not have saved the girl's life because she died within two hours of her disappearance, "it is clear that if a subsequent missing child report were to be approached in the same manner as was the Rivera case, the Canton Police Department may indeed miss an opportunity to save a victim's life."
Dekmar declined further comment Thursday, saying "my report speaks for itself."


http://www.ajc.com/news/canton-polic...s-1308509.html

[Ron_NYC]

http://www.220.ro/umor-romanesc/Loui...er/0SAMUoSKHe/

[beli]

Before this he had molested 2 other children.

could you post an article on that? i didn't realized he had done that.

[AtlantaAndy]

http://www.ajc.com/news/cherokee/child-killer-hanged-himself-1310249.html

Jorelys' mother, Jocelyn Rivera, could not be reached for comment Friday. Upon hearing of Brunn's death on Thursday, Rivera said through a translator "This is the kind of justice that I was expecting for him for all the damage that he made to my little daughter."

no mention of him being suspected in other cases.

[nestlequikie]

could you post an article on that? i didn't realized he had done that.

I wondered about that, too. I had not heard that.

[strmmrgrrl]

Still not finding anything but there is some mention of "two undocumented (underage) sex offenders" living at the complex here:

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/a...p/t-60238.html

As well as some other pretty interesting stuff.

[HockeyGirl]

I watched one of those First 48 type shows where the murderer committed suicide before he could be tried in court. The father of the victim said he felt cheated because in the end, the murderer was still in control of the situation. I totally understand how the father felt, but I agree, dead is dead. At least this way we know he won't get off on some bullshit technicality or something and be free to do it again.

This makes sense.
In some people and in some situations revenge is a natural reaction.
But revenge on their terms


If someone molests and mutilates my daughter im pretty sure i wont have the "welp, I guess thats that" reaction.
That situation would make my revenge fires burn pretty strong.
Thats my little princess.

[Ron_NYC]

This makes sense.
In some people and in some situations revenge is a natural reaction.
But revenge on their terms


If someone molests and mutilates my daughter im pretty sure i wont have the "welp, I guess thats that" reaction.
That situation would make my revenge fires burn pretty strong.
Thats my little princess.

Not a little girl, but.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78K35B20110921

[HockeyGirl]

Good for him.
People find peace and closure in different ways.

[bowieluva]

But that example is irrelevant. In this case, the family got the answers they wanted and the guy didn't avoid admitting guilt via suicide. They had the right person, they knew what happened, he wasn't going to get off, and he died. I mean, it's amazing to me that so many people will go 'oh he should get the death penalty' and then boo his suicide. He committed suicide after conviction, I mean, this is the most efficient and affordable death penalty ever.

[Ron_NYC]

But that example is irrelevant. In this case, the family got the answers they wanted and the guy didn't avoid admitting guilt via suicide. They had the right person, they knew what happened, he wasn't going to get off, and he died. I mean, it's amazing to me that so many people will go 'oh he should get the death penalty' and then boo his suicide. He committed suicide after conviction, I mean, this is the most efficient and affordable death penalty ever.

That's what I thought. People are booing this? Haha.

[HockeyGirl]

I just dont see it as bringing closure.
And none of us here can say what brings people in this situation closure.
Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, but it wouldnt bring it for me

[bowieluva]

I just dont see it as bringing closure.
And none of us here can say what brings people in this situation closure.
Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt, but it wouldnt bring it for me

I honestly don't understand this haiku. He confessed. He submitted a plea of guilt. Then he quietly died, meaning the family knows who did it, got an admission, and now no longer ever has to deal with him again. He won't hurt anyone else. What more could someone want? I'm sorry, the whole 'I want someone to suffer the way I do' doesn't seem like in the long run it ever helps a victim heal.

Also someone said above that the victim's mother was pleased with the outcome. So what's to debate? My argument is that people with Beli's attitude confuse me. Support the death penalty, but oppose a quick, quiet death after all guilt has been declared? I mean, if the point is you want to see the person on a stretcher, tortured like it's medieval times, that says to me that something is wrong with you.

[Ron_NYC]

im actually pissed. fucking pussy. i wanted him to suffer a hell here on earth.

Sounds like Beli means prison though.

[k_bass]

If I found out that the man who killed my mom, killed himself, I wouldn't exactly be happy but I would be relieved(I guess). Just like I would be relieved(?)if I found out he died while committing another crime. I'm not going to feel like justice wasn't served because he wasn't disemboweled with a rusty toenail clipper while someone sprayed him with a flamethrower. I think it's reeeeeally disturbing when people think that way.

[bowieluva]

If a dog bites your kid in the face, you're not like 'I hope they keep it alive for the next 15 years to deal with its guilt.' What better manifestation of remorse than a suicide?

[Ron_NYC]

If a dog bites your kid in the face, you're not like 'I hope they keep it alive for the next 15 years to deal with its guilt.' What better manifestation of remorse than a suicide?

Suicide doesn't have to mean guilt. You could just really, really not like the idea of prison.

[k_bass]

Suicide doesn't have to mean guilt. You could just really, really not like the idea of prison.

Yeah, but I wouldn't even give that a thought if it was my situation. Why would it matter why he did it?